View Full Version : Will Texas beat Florida to the property tax idea?
Normal
08-29-2025, 11:29 AM
We should all be aware that the governor and state house members want to eliminate property taxes for all of us. Texas just came one step closer to being the first.
The Texas House pushed forward a proposal Monday aimed at containing property tax bills by putting tighter restrictions on cities and counties.
The legislation would further limit how much more in property tax revenue cities and counties can collect each year without voter approval. Under state law, that limit sits at 3.5%. The bill would take that limit down to 1%.
Texas House OKs bill limiting city, county property taxes | The Texas Tribune (https://www.texastribune.org/2025/08/25/texas-property-taxes-cities-counties/)
Florida isn’t exactly sitting by, the governor’s idea to totally eliminate resident taxes has overwhelming support.
Ron DeSantis Updates Florida on 2026 Plan for Property Tax Vote - Newsweek (https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-updates-florida-2026-plan-property-tax-vote-2119994)
Which state will get it done first? Florida will rely on businesses and tourism taxes. Texas has taken the more streamlined approach. It should be interesting to see who comes first.
Bill14564
08-29-2025, 12:11 PM
TX is going to discover that inflation affects services the Govt purchases as well as the groceries, cable, and lawn mowing services the citizens purchase. A 1% cap on Govt spending sounds great until one of the services cut is the one that you depend on.
FL will have the same issue if they further cap revenue increases.
FL will have a bigger problem if they eliminate property tax altogether. Sumter County alone will need to find an alternate source for $250M or about 50% of the budget.
Michael G.
08-29-2025, 12:55 PM
And our law enforcement will suffer.
We complain about speeders now, 466 and 466A will turn into a Autobahn but
we'll be able to go to Costco and return faster.
Normal
08-29-2025, 01:12 PM
And our law enforcement will suffer.
We complain about speeders now, 466 and 466A will turn into a Autobahn but
we'll be able to go to Costco and return faster. ������
We allocated 59 million for the Sumter County Sheriff’s office next year. They hired 15:new personnel. Some of this is redundant if you live in Wildwood or Lady Lake who already have their own police forces already. It’s the redundancy that needs to go away.
When this gets on the ballot, and it will, do you really see a majority saying they want to keep paying property taxes?
OrangeBlossomBaby
08-29-2025, 01:24 PM
We allocated 59 million for the Sumter County Sheriff’s office next year. They hired 11 new personnel. Some of this is redundant if you live in Wildwood or Lady Lake who already have their own police forces already. It’s the redundancy that needs to go away.
When this gets on the ballot, and it will, do you really see a majority saying they want to keep paying property taxes?
All those county police departments are paid for by property taxes. Do away with property taxes, and you have to come up with the money from somewhere else. Tourism taxes are already being paid, you'd have to double those, maybe even triple them. And of course that means fewer people able to afford to dine out, visit, rent hotels or cars in Floridas, go to campgrounds, short-term rent anywhere in the state including AirBnB or Villages Lifestyle Visits, which means less money back into the county coffers, which means less money to pay for all those extra police they need to make up for the loss of the property taxes that did pay for them.
Now, if they want to impose a MODEST income tax - perhaps a 2% tax on gross income over the first $40k or 50k/year, that might work (the first $40/50k wouldn't be subject to that income tax at all, allowing the low and low-middle income folks to keep more of their hard-earned money)
tophcfa
08-29-2025, 01:31 PM
We should all be aware that the governor and state house members want to eliminate property taxes for all of us.
Wrong, the governor doesn’t want to eliminate property taxes for all of us. Owning a home in Florida and paying property taxes doesn’t qualify someone. They also have to have Florida as their official state of residence. There are many, many, many homeowners in Florida that are part time residents who wouldn’t qualify, but instead would get stuck making up for lost revenue.
Bill14564
08-29-2025, 01:33 PM
We allocated 59 million for the Sumter County Sheriff’s office next year. They hired 15:new personnel. Some of this is redundant if you live in Wildwood or Lady Lake who already have their own police forces already. It’s the redundancy that needs to go away.
When this gets on the ballot, and it will, do you really see a majority saying they want to keep paying property taxes?
There is no redundancy. There is a Wildwood PD that services city of Wildwood, a County Sheriff that services the county outside the city, and a mutual aid agreement in case it is needed. If the Wildwood PD went away then the Sumter County Sheriff would need to staff up to cover the gap.
As far as property taxes go, there is no "this" to get on the ballot yet. There is a pitch by the Governor that few in the legislature are going to disagree with but it is only a pitch with no details behind it. When a real proposal is made that can be analyzed for its impact on services, then we'll see how many get behind it.
If you go fishing with offers of free stuff you'll get a lot of bites, even when the end result is bad.
MrFlorida
08-29-2025, 02:09 PM
I get the impression everyone wants to pay taxes? How about we stop giving away freebies and use that money for public services...
MX rider
08-29-2025, 02:26 PM
All those county police departments are paid for by property taxes. Do away with property taxes, and you have to come up with the money from somewhere else. Tourism taxes are already being paid, you'd have to double those, maybe even triple them. And of course that means fewer people able to afford to dine out, visit, rent hotels or cars in Floridas, go to campgrounds, short-term rent anywhere in the state including AirBnB or Villages Lifestyle Visits, which means less money back into the county coffers, which means less money to pay for all those extra police they need to make up for the loss of the property taxes that did pay for them.
Now, if they want to impose a MODEST income tax - perhaps a 2% tax on gross income over the first $40k or 50k/year, that might work (the first $40/50k wouldn't be subject to that income tax at all, allowing the low and low-middle income folks to keep more of their hard-earned money)
Exactly!
I think this is one of those " be careful what you wish for" situations.
Don't get me wrong, I don't love paying property tax. But the counties, cities and schools depend on tax money. So it's going to have to come from somewhere.
I like our Governor but this idea seems half baked to me. It sounds good on the surface, but in reality it's going to hurt in the long run.
Maybe giving retirees and residents under a certain income level a break on property tax would be worth looking at, not eliminating it.
kansasr
08-29-2025, 03:44 PM
Enjoy you 30% sales tax if this passes
vintageogauge
08-29-2025, 03:51 PM
One way or another everyone is going to pay what they are paying now if not more. If Florida chooses to tax businesses heavily some will leave and others will raise the cost of their goods or services, county gas and home utilities will have higher taxes, investment properties will continue to pay property taxes so tenants will be getting paying more than homeowners as part of their rent is for the owners property taxes. Either services will be cut drastically or there will be a lot of taxation and or assessments going on. I would vote not to eliminate property taxes however I would like to see a limit on the amount that can be charged going forward.
blueash
08-29-2025, 04:04 PM
Right now a significant amount of the tax burden is on those who own real estate. Thus wealthier people. Of course renters end up paying some of that via higher rent as well.
But, consistent with the philosophy that poor people need to pay more so rich people pay less, certain people suggest getting rid of any tax which might hit the wealthy. Of course the money will have to be replaced. The easiest way to do that is to increase the sales tax which it is well known, hits low earners much harder as they spend (thus get sales taxed) on a much higher percent of their earnings than high earners who save thus not exposed to a sales tax.
Tax burden the poor, line the pockets of the wealthy. Trickle up economics with a sledgehammer.
JGibson
08-29-2025, 04:07 PM
We don't know the details but I would bet big investors who own so much property especially in Tampa would want to be included in this and for all we know lobbied for it.
Normal
08-29-2025, 04:11 PM
There is no redundancy. There is a Wildwood PD that services city of Wildwood, a County Sheriff that services the county outside the city, and a mutual aid agreement in case it is needed. If the Wildwood PD went away then the Sumter County Sheriff would need to staff up to cover the gap.
As far as property taxes go, there is no "this" to get on the ballot yet. There is a pitch by the Governor that few in the legislature are going to disagree with but it is only a pitch with no details behind it. When a real proposal is made that can be analyzed for its impact on services, then we'll see how many get behind it.
If you go fishing with offers of free stuff you'll get a lot of bites, even when the end result is bad.
But there is taxation redundancy for people who live in areas where the Sheriff’s Department isn’t needed or required. If I pay for police support already in Wildwood, Leesburg or Lady Lake, I don’t need the Sheriffs Department. I already have a city police department. Perhaps a skeleton sized crew for state warrants or corrections is needed, but there is no need to pay for two police departments like municipal residents already do. I guess the unincorporated portions benefit, but Wildwood residents get nothing from the increased spending.
The insult to injury was paying for yet more protection (15 additional positions) in the Sheriff’s Department while we carry much more in taxes paying for our increased police budget here in Wildwood.
Bill14564
08-29-2025, 04:32 PM
But there is taxation redundancy for people who live in areas where the Sheriff’s Department isn’t needed or required. If I pay for police support already in Wildwood, Leesburg or Lady Lake, I don’t need the Sheriffs Department. I already have a city police department. Perhaps a skeleton sized crew for state warrants or corrections, but there is no need to pay for two police departments. I guess the unincorporated portions benefit, but Wildwood residents get nothing from the increased spending.
Different ways of looking at it.
1. Your tax funds pay little of the Sheriff budget and mine pay less of county funding of Wildwood items. It all looks the same on the tax notice but the money is used differently.
2. You live in the county so you pay for county services whether you use them or not. I live in the county so I pay for school teachers whether I use them or not. We all pay for maintenance of the roads around Webster and Mabel though few of us will ever drive on them. The county services cost less for each of us because we all pay for them. You get better police coverage because your Wildwood taxes fund fewer services leaving more for the Wildwood PD.
3. Disband the Wildwood PD and your county taxes will increase to plus up the Sheriff staffing needed to answer calls in Wildwood.
4. For the increased spending, you actually receive service from two departments while I only receive service from one.
5. If you live in Wildwood then you can be elected to the Wildwood city council and push to disband the PD and lower your taxes - be part of the solution.
Normal
08-29-2025, 04:49 PM
Different ways of looking at it.
If you paid an extra hundred dollars a month in taxes to Wildwood or Leesburg, you would understand how we already overpay for what seems like nothing in return.
We see the justification for those taxes generally under their term “Economic Development.”
Now we have the super cool parking deck for our thrift store and a beauty shop that houses a car or two per week. Of course because of “Economic Development” taxpayers to Wildwood paid 50,000 dollars per parking space in that lot.
I know the Sheriff’s Department can respond to Wildwood needs, but Wildwood already has an over staffed police department.
My point, there is waste, there is taxation redundancy.
CoachKandSportsguy
08-29-2025, 04:58 PM
Exactly!
I think this is one of those " be careful what you wish for" situations.
Don't get me wrong, I don't love paying property tax. But the counties, cities and schools depend on tax money. So it's going to have to come from somewhere.
I like our Governor but this idea seems half baked to me. It sounds good on the surface, but in reality it's going to hurt in the long run.
Maybe giving retirees and residents under a certain income level a break on property tax would be worth looking at, not eliminating it.
absolutely correct. . people want to eliminate successful programs just to be disruptors, instead of just being sensible, and making adjustments, such as the first 200,000 of valuation is zero, similar to the single married income tax deduction. . . .
but upsetting all kinds of planned budgets, both spending and raising money, has unknown unintended consequences. . lots of political idiocracy going around these days. .
its expensive to move somewhere, both business and citizens, and then have all the financial rules change, and risk those movers fleeing and having the large shortfalls show up, disrupting the plans both citizens and business made for coming here in the first place. .
citizens and business all want stability and predictability, especially retirees and businesses. . disrupting the reasons many moved here to political pandering, doesn't make alot of sense to me. . . when I can plan my spending to my income, knowing that i have a one time property tax payment, versus increased costs for who knows which activities or all activities. .
so for every $5,000 of property taxes, what will be increased? business taxes = restaurant prices, clothing prices, retail prices, alcohol prices, airline tickets, cruise prices, disney prices, rental car prices, gasoline prices, etc. . . there is no free lunch people, no taxes, no services. . property taxes are predictable for county budgets, switching to activity base income can be variable year to year, and very hard to plan and budget for services. . .
biggamefish1
08-29-2025, 05:00 PM
This all started with If you own your home outright, why should you be taxed on your property and it has sprouted out to so many thoughts. Everything else I buy and own isn't taxed, so why should my home be taxed if it is paid in full?
Normal
08-29-2025, 05:12 PM
This all started with If you own your home outright, why should you be taxed on your property and it has sprouted out to so many thoughts. Everything else I buy and own isn't taxed, so why should my home be taxed if it is paid in full?
Exactly!
One positive would be a booming real estate sector. Many would consider Florida as the place to move to or retire in. Further, financial institutions would see those 2.5 % mortgages paid off. Florida would explode with building and development.
Bill14564
08-29-2025, 05:15 PM
Exactly!
One positive would be a booming real estate sector. Many would consider Florida as the place to move to or retire in. Further, financial institutions would see those 2.5 % mortgages paid off. Florida would explode with building and development.
As it seems you haven't noticed, Florida is already exploding with building and development.
CoachKandSportsguy
08-29-2025, 05:17 PM
This all started with If you own your home outright, why should you be taxed on your property and it has sprouted out to so many thoughts. Everything else I buy and own isn't taxed, so why should my home be taxed if it is paid in full?
for public services because you live here. . . if you don't pay property taxes, the other items you own may be taxed to fund the public services. . .
unless you want the fire department to charge only the customers it services, so an EMT ambulance call will cost $6,000 or so, and if you say ok, fine, and my insurance will pick that up, well, your health insurance will go up to cover that payment. . . or not cover it at all
public services are not free, this isn't a communistic country, its a mixed socialism/capitalism society, where some public service costs are socialized, such as roads, fire, police, and other local services. .
Bill14564
08-29-2025, 05:28 PM
This all started with If you own your home outright, why should you be taxed on your property and it has sprouted out to so many thoughts. Everything else I buy and own isn't taxed, so why should my home be taxed if it is paid in full?
The services provided by the county need to be funded somehow and what better way than to tax the people who use the services? The people who use the services are the people who live here. The people who live here either own or rent property here. Taxing property in the county is a great way to fund the services provided by the county.
Yes, the county levies a small sales tax. If the property tax was replaced by an increased county sales tax then it would need to be raised from 1% to 6.5% making the overall sales tax 12.5%. Lake and Marion counties would love for that to happen.
So if taxing the residents of Sumter County for the services provided by Sumter County is out, what would you propose as an alternative?
OrangeBlossomBaby
08-29-2025, 05:53 PM
This all started with If you own your home outright, why should you be taxed on your property and it has sprouted out to so many thoughts. Everything else I buy and own isn't taxed, so why should my home be taxed if it is paid in full?
You sure about that? You didn't pay tax on your car? You don't pay tax on your meals when you dine out? You didn't pay tax on your computer or phone? You pay no tax on every gallon of gas you buy for your car, or every unit of electricity you use on your EV? Yes, yes you do pay tax on all of that. It's not property tax, but it's tax. You also pay registration fees every year on your car based on weight - it's not called a tax, but that's what it is.
Most things you buy - are taxed.
JMintzer
08-29-2025, 06:13 PM
You sure about that? You didn't pay tax on your car? You don't pay tax on your meals when you dine out? You didn't pay tax on your computer or phone? You pay no tax on every gallon of gas you buy for your car, or every unit of electricity you use on your EV? Yes, yes you do pay tax on all of that. It's not property tax, but it's tax. You also pay registration fees every year on your car based on weight - it's not called a tax, but that's what it is.
Most things you buy - are taxed.
Yes... Taxed ONCE! Not yearly, in perpetuity...
Topspinmo
08-29-2025, 09:21 PM
TX is going to discover that inflation affects services the Govt purchases as well as the groceries, cable, and lawn mowing services the citizens purchase. A 1% cap on Govt spending sounds great until one of the services cut is the one that you depend on.
FL will have the same issue if they further cap revenue increases.
FL will have a bigger problem if they eliminate property tax altogether. Sumter County alone will need to find an alternate source for $250M or about 50% of the budget.
I think they discovered outrageous inflation about 3 years ago. Sumter country probably cheapest county to live in I villages. Marion being the highest. So far my estimated county taxes down about 3% from last year, but I won’t hold my breath until I pay it.
Djean1981
08-29-2025, 09:24 PM
Red light cameras.. ..
Topspinmo
08-29-2025, 09:24 PM
You sure about that? You didn't pay tax on your car? You don't pay tax on your meals when you dine out? You didn't pay tax on your computer or phone? You pay no tax on every gallon of gas you buy for your car, or every unit of electricity you use on your EV? Yes, yes you do pay tax on all of that. It's not property tax, but it's tax. You also pay registration fees every year on your car based on weight - it's not called a tax, but that's what it is.
Most things you buy - are taxed.
So, why does that make it right? :faint: Just cause they tax us don’t make it god given right. O wait??????
coralway
08-29-2025, 09:43 PM
Elections are coming up.
tophcfa
08-29-2025, 09:53 PM
This all started with If you own your home outright, why should you be taxed on your property and it has sprouted out to so many thoughts. Everything else I buy and own isn't taxed, so why should my home be taxed if it is paid in full?
OK, let’s go with that. All other things being equal, why should one person who owns their home free and clear not pay any taxes, and their next door neighbor, who also owns their home free and clear, have to pay taxes simply because they are a part time resident? Either you own the home or you don’t. And part time residents typically utilize less services funded by taxes than full timers? Go figure, this whole property tax thing is just buying votes.
LoisR
08-30-2025, 04:57 AM
Be cautious. You get what you pay for. Taxes pay for education, and many services to its people, too many to mention. Education in both states are lacking even though we are told otherwise. Just check the records for yourself.
RoadToad
08-30-2025, 05:14 AM
Yes... Taxed ONCE! Not yearly, in perpetuity...
Might want to revisit that thought..
bowlingal
08-30-2025, 05:35 AM
people over 65 should be exempt from paying property tax.
dolphin
08-30-2025, 05:42 AM
Ain’t going to happen. Where would the $ come to replace this loss of income! Wishful thinking
Bill14564
08-30-2025, 05:46 AM
OK, let’s go with that. All other things being equal, why should one person who owns their home free and clear not pay any taxes, and their next door neighbor, who also owns their home free and clear, have to pay taxes simply because they are a part time resident? Either you own the home or you don’t. And part time residents typically utilize less services funded by taxes than full timers? Go figure, this whole property tax thing is just buying votes.
Yep
DrMack
08-30-2025, 05:58 AM
I’m sure people who don’t live in the city pay more in county taxes than those that do. I know for a fact unincorporated Seminole County has a different tax rate than those of us who own property in Sanford. We pay city taxes and county taxes but the unincorporated sections have a higher county tax rate. If your county commissioners haven’t changed unincorporated verses municipality rates, they certainly can. Our village is in Leesburg and I’m fairly certain there are two different county rates.
USOTR
08-30-2025, 06:03 AM
Property tax should be dropped for senior citizens who have lived in Florida and filed homestead exception for at least 10 year prior to be coming a senior citizen.
CoachKandSportsguy
08-30-2025, 06:36 AM
Property tax should be dropped for senior citizens who have lived in Florida and filed homestead exception for at least 10 year prior to be coming a senior citizen.
OK, so very large senior citizen retirement communities pay no property taxes, like TV, and the remaining population has to pay double or more to support the services you are using. . . you are going to be real popular outside TV when the low cost of living just explodes and the locals all have to raise salaries and rates to cover your being old entitlement attitude. . . plumbing, landscaping electrical work all jumps by some large percentage just to cover your age royalty?
kkingston57
08-30-2025, 06:47 AM
We allocated 59 million for the Sumter County Sheriff’s office next year. They hired 15:new personnel. Some of this is redundant if you live in Wildwood or Lady Lake who already have their own police forces already. It’s the redundancy that needs to go away.
When this gets on the ballot, and it will, do you really see a majority saying they want to keep paying property taxes?
Redundancy in local governments has been there and has been a problem for years. Most people do like "local" control, Getting rid of property taxes will create a huge can of worms. Why fix something when it is not broken? As an aside those hated snowbirds will love it. Only pay sales tax for several months and no property taxes. 99% of them will buy their car(heavy taxed item) elsewhere
kkingston57
08-30-2025, 06:56 AM
Enjoy you 30% sales tax if this passes
Heard that it will be closer to 15% but when people can choose how they pay taxes all bets are off. Will kill a lot of businesses at either rate such as restaurants. Good way to get a lot of stuff off store shelves which people do not need.
BobGraves
08-30-2025, 06:58 AM
But there is taxation redundancy for people who live in areas where the Sheriff’s Department isn’t needed or required. If I pay for police support already in Wildwood, Leesburg or Lady Lake, I don’t need the Sheriffs Department. I already have a city police department. Perhaps a skeleton sized crew for state warrants or corrections is needed, but there is no need to pay for two police departments like municipal residents already do. I guess the unincorporated portions benefit, but Wildwood residents get nothing from the increased spending.
The insult to injury was paying for yet more protection (15 additional positions) in the Sheriff’s Department while we carry much more in taxes paying for our increased police budget here in Wildwood.
The taxes paid to the Sumter Co. Sheriff's dept. Goes to things that the Wildwood PD doesn't have. Think of things like a helicopter. IDK the extent of Wildwood's detective division or police lab but these are the services the County Sheriffs provide so the smaller city PD doesn't have to fund and maintain these things.
kkingston57
08-30-2025, 07:06 AM
Exactly!
One positive would be a booming real estate sector. Many would consider Florida as the place to move to or retire in. Further, financial institutions would see those 2.5 % mortgages paid off. Florida would explode with building and development.
And how many of those people will be property rich and cash poor? Just got back from a 3 month trip 10+ state trip. Worst traffic we saw was in Ocala. 7 mile back up because of a blown tire. Why change a system that is good?
Normal
08-30-2025, 07:08 AM
I’m sure people who don’t live in the city pay more in county taxes than those that do. I know for a fact unincorporated Seminole County has a different tax rate than those of us who own property in Sanford. We pay city taxes and county taxes but the unincorporated sections have a higher county tax rate. If your county commissioners haven’t changed unincorporated verses municipality rates, they certainly can. Our village is in Leesburg and I’m fairly certain there are two different county rates.
No, we still have a singular system in Sumter county and all get taxed the same. It certainly needs to be done. It’s obvious county services are used quite a bit more by the unincorporated sections of the county.
ThirdOfFive
08-30-2025, 07:11 AM
The taxes paid to the Sumter Co. Sheriff's dept. Goes to things that the Wildwood PD doesn't have. Think of things like a helicopter. IDK the extent of Wildwood's detective division or police lab but these are the services the County Sheriffs provide so the smaller city PD doesn't have to fund and maintain these things.
Owners of private homes are not the only ones paying property taxes. the breakdown is
- Homeowners 65.8%
- Businesses 18.1%
- Tourists 16.1%
(2022 numbers, floridaphoenix . com)
Those worried about the effects on law enforcement of this being cut should recognize the cash cow (actually a herd of cash cows) that we see and grumble about every day. People breaking traffic laws with almost no repercussions. Start TICKETING speeders, red-light runners, passing in no-passing zones, etc., and that shortfall could be made up pretty easily.
Win-win.
ByebyeMichigan
08-30-2025, 07:33 AM
Exactly.
airstreamingypsy
08-30-2025, 07:38 AM
Exactly!
One positive would be a booming real estate sector. Many would consider Florida as the place to move to or retire in. Further, financial institutions would see those 2.5 % mortgages paid off. Florida would explode with building and development.
Positive? That's not a positive, its a negative.
ByebyeMichigan
08-30-2025, 07:43 AM
So if Florida eliminates property tax for people that own their homes OUTRIGHT , this state will have a huge influx of people moving here….simply tack on a significant sales tax on their new home purchase….. they won’t like the initial added cost but most will pay it with the realization that going forward they won’t have to pay anymore taxes on that home. That idea alone would mostly take the place of OUR property taxes that are currently being collected yearly ……
poordirtfarmer
08-30-2025, 07:44 AM
I agree with enforcing speed limits on all Villages vehicles. That is what most Villagers would expect our employed police force to do. I’m sure there is reluctance by our police force to ticket people in a retirement community. Our elected commissioners should make it clear to our force that the MAJORITY of Villagers believe the Villages will be safer and our property more valuable if speed limits are enforced.
ROCKETMAN
08-30-2025, 07:48 AM
We should all be aware that the governor and state house members want to eliminate property taxes for all of us. Texas just came one step closer to being the first.
The Texas House pushed forward a proposal Monday aimed at containing property tax bills by putting tighter restrictions on cities and counties.
The legislation would further limit how much more in property tax revenue cities and counties can collect each year without voter approval. Under state law, that limit sits at 3.5%. The bill would take that limit down to 1%.
Texas House OKs bill limiting city, county property taxes | The Texas Tribune (https://www.texastribune.org/2025/08/25/texas-property-taxes-cities-counties/)
Florida isn’t exactly sitting by, the governor’s idea to totally eliminate resident taxes has overwhelming support.
Ron DeSantis Updates Florida on 2026 Plan for Property Tax Vote - Newsweek (https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-updates-florida-2026-plan-property-tax-vote-2119994)
Which state will get it done first? Florida will rely on businesses and tourism taxes. Texas has taken the more streamlined approach. It should be interesting to see who comes first.
Property taxes take in 56 billion dollars in the state. How do you make that up.
dougjb
08-30-2025, 07:48 AM
There is no such thing as a free lunch.
If the property tax is eliminated, the government will have to make up that shortfall somewhere else. Floridians have to pay...one way or the other!
So, let's not celebrate the elimination of one tax if the state then has to play whack-a-mole and hit us on something else.
Rsb23
08-30-2025, 07:51 AM
You sure about that? You didn't pay tax on your car? You don't pay tax on your meals when you dine out? You didn't pay tax on your computer or phone? You pay no tax on every gallon of gas you buy for your car, or every unit of electricity you use on your EV? Yes, yes you do pay tax on all of that. It's not property tax, but it's tax. You also pay registration fees every year on your car based on weight - it's not called a tax, but that's what it is.
Most things you buy - are taxed.
I agree with you. The problem is that you are trying to convince the Me People that taxes can both benefit them directly and indirectly.
There are two types of people the Me People that believe that if the services don’t Directly benefit them they should not have to pay. If they don’t have a child in school why should they have to pay school taxes (etc. to all other taxes as well). Then there are the We People. They see the benefits of education has to our society. The We People care about others. The Me People couldn’t care less if it doesn’t help them directly.
It’s sad to say, but we seem to be in period of time when the Me People have taken control and society will suffer for it. Save your breath you are trying to convince people that only care about themselves. That will not change.
Normal
08-30-2025, 07:51 AM
Redundancy in local governments has been there and has been a problem for years. Most people do like "local" control, Getting rid of property taxes will create a huge can of worms. Why fix something when it is not broken? As an aside those hated snowbirds will love it. Only pay sales tax for several months and no property taxes. 99% of them will buy their car(heavy taxed item) elsewhere
If you aren’t a resident, you pay property taxes. The exemption is only for single property owners who are residents of the state.
OrangeBlossomBaby
08-30-2025, 07:58 AM
Yes... Taxed ONCE! Not yearly, in perpetuity...
So here's how taxes work, since it isn't clear to you:
Property taxes are what you pay, to cover the expense of owning property in the town you're in. That means it covers the cost of paving the road that leads to your driveway. It covers the cost of the cop who shows up to arrest them thar illeguls who you mistakenly contracted to replace your roof. It covers the cost of the replacement of curbs. It covers the cost of the people who determine the laws and regulations, implement them, and oversee the general running of the community you live in. It covers the cost of the secretary who types up all this stuff and takes your phone call when you complain about a pothole at the corner of your road and the intersection. It covers the cost of the street lights and stop signs and road signs, the schools, the sidewalks on public property. It covers the cost of asphalt and bituminous concrete when needed to patch those sidewalks and roads. It covers the cost of the city engineer who has to sign off on all new construction or expansions of existing property. It covers the cost of the inland-wetland commission, who makes sure that someone isn't building a property in such a way that it'll dam the free flow of water and cause half the neighborhood to float away during the next big rainstorm.
That's why you pay property tax every year, and not just a sales tax once when you buy the house. These things happen every year. And so you pay every year.
Normal
08-30-2025, 08:19 AM
So here's how taxes work, since it isn't clear to you:
Property taxes are what you pay, to cover the expense of owning property in the town you're in. That means it covers the cost of paving the road that leads to your driveway. It covers the cost of the cop who shows up to arrest them thar illeguls who you mistakenly contracted to replace your roof. It covers the cost of the replacement of curbs. It covers the cost of the people who determine the laws and regulations, implement them, and oversee the general running of the community you live in. It covers the cost of the secretary who types up all this stuff and takes your phone call when you complain about a pothole at the corner of your road and the intersection. It covers the cost of the street lights and stop signs and road signs, the schools, the sidewalks on public property. It covers the cost of asphalt and bituminous concrete when needed to patch those sidewalks and roads. It covers the cost of the city engineer who has to sign off on all new construction or expansions of existing property. It covers the cost of the inland-wetland commission, who makes sure that someone isn't building a property in such a way that it'll dam the free flow of water and cause half the neighborhood to float away during the next big rainstorm.
That's why you pay property tax every year, and not just a sales tax once when you buy the house. These things happen every year. And so you pay every year.
Or, have the state take care of it all.
Bill14564
08-30-2025, 08:22 AM
If you aren’t a resident, you pay property taxes. The exemption is only for single property owners who are residents of the state.
There is no proposal for any exemption yet, just promises. It's far too early to be counting the chickens, much less naming them.
BlueStarAirlines
08-30-2025, 09:03 AM
For me, the real issue isn't the paying of property taxes, its the normalization of the endless supply of tax dollars to fund pet projects.
Wildwood is the poster child for this with their parking garage, Millennium Park, and their forthcoming "The Railyard" and "Linnear Park". The "build it and they will come" is a foolish waste of tax dollars. Wildwood has real needs like the new water treatment plant but seems to be easily distracted by grandiose visions as a place that shoppers will flock to and spend hours enjoying Wildwood's natural setting.
Normal
08-30-2025, 09:23 AM
For me, the real issue isn't the paying of property taxes, its the normalization of the endless supply of tax dollars to fund pet projects.
Wildwood is the poster child for this with their parking garage, Millennium Park, and their forthcoming "The Railyard" and "Linnear Park". The "build it and they will come" is a foolish waste of tax dollars. Wildwood has real needs like the new water treatment plant but seems to be easily distracted by grandiose visions as a place that shoppers will flock to and spend hours enjoying Wildwood's natural setting.
Yes, they are the poster child for waste!
Bill14564
08-30-2025, 09:28 AM
For me, the real issue isn't the paying of property taxes, its the normalization of the endless supply of tax dollars to fund pet projects.
Wildwood is the poster child for this with their parking garage, Millennium Park, and their forthcoming "The Railyard" and "Linnear Park". The "build it and they will come" is a foolish waste of tax dollars. Wildwood has real needs like the new water treatment plant but seems to be easily distracted by grandiose visions as a place that shoppers will flock to and spend hours enjoying Wildwood's natural setting.
With all the development happening in Wildwood they should already have the customers, they just need to get on the ball and create the downtown destination. The parking garage made sense as the initial phase of the buildout but it's been open for nearly a year now with little or no progress on the rest of the plan.
kingofbeer
08-30-2025, 09:55 AM
We should all be aware that the governor and state house members want to eliminate property taxes for all of us. Texas just came one step closer to being the first.
The Texas House pushed forward a proposal Monday aimed at containing property tax bills by putting tighter restrictions on cities and counties.
The legislation would further limit how much more in property tax revenue cities and counties can collect each year without voter approval. Under state law, that limit sits at 3.5%. The bill would take that limit down to 1%.
Texas House OKs bill limiting city, county property taxes | The Texas Tribune (https://www.texastribune.org/2025/08/25/texas-property-taxes-cities-counties/)
Florida isn’t exactly sitting by, the governor’s idea to totally eliminate resident taxes has overwhelming support.
Ron DeSantis Updates Florida on 2026 Plan for Property Tax Vote - Newsweek (https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-updates-florida-2026-plan-property-tax-vote-2119994)
Which state will get it done first? Florida will rely on businesses and tourism taxes. Texas has taken the more streamlined approach. It should be interesting to see who comes first.
I don't think this will ever happen, if it does I will move out of Florida before it happens. DeSantis and Republicans pander to their conservative base. Some state legislator from Miami wants to get rid of hoa's too. Florida state government is the one who needs to be audited. They built a detention camp in the Everglades that is being closed down that is costing taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars. They are parking a state trooper at the Dunkin Donuts next to the Pulse Nightclub to hassle people putting chalk on a sidewalk.
LianneMigiano
08-30-2025, 10:10 AM
You sure about that? You didn't pay tax on your car? You don't pay tax on your meals when you dine out? You didn't pay tax on your computer or phone? You pay no tax on every gallon of gas you buy for your car, or every unit of electricity you use on your EV? Yes, yes you do pay tax on all of that. It's not property tax, but it's tax. You also pay registration fees every year on your car based on weight - it's not called a tax, but that's what it is.
Most things you buy - are taxed.
15 years ago the taxes on our property in CT were $6,000 a year. God forbid what they must be now! The taxes for our home in Sumter County for the coming year here are $1,700. When we moved here our taxes here were around $1,500 yearly. The taxes have gone up about $200 in 15 years! They used to go up that much in ONE year in our former state. Plus they have an income tax. We have saved the difference of at least that much money every year - for 15 years. I would NEVER begrudge the county for these amounts!!!!!
kingofbeer
08-30-2025, 10:17 AM
Property tax should be dropped for senior citizens who have lived in Florida and filed homestead exception for at least 10 year prior to be coming a senior citizen.
Nope. What about the "disabled" and "disabled vets" who pay zero taxes? Are all of these taxpayers really disabled?
MrFlorida
08-30-2025, 12:34 PM
How does Delaware do it ? Extremely low property taxes, and no sales tax....
Pugchief
08-30-2025, 01:02 PM
I don't think this will ever happen, if it does I will move out of Florida before it happens. DeSantis and Republicans pander to their conservative base. Some state legislator from Miami wants to get rid of hoa's too. Florida state government is the one who needs to be audited. They built a detention camp in the Everglades that is being closed down that is costing taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars. They are parking a state trooper at the Dunkin Donuts next to the Pulse Nightclub to hassle people putting chalk on a sidewalk.
Are you a FL native? If not, why would you move to a state that is run in a manner that you disagree with when there are presumably other places that do?
Pugchief
08-30-2025, 01:03 PM
15 years ago the taxes on our property in CT were $6,000 a year. God forbid what they must be now! The taxes for our home in Sumter County for the coming year here are $1,700. When we moved here our taxes here were around $1,500 yearly. The taxes have gone up about $200 in 15 years! They used to go up that much in ONE year in our former state. Plus they have an income tax. We have saved the difference of at least that much money every year - for 15 years. I would NEVER begrudge the county for these amounts!!!!!
Hmmm. CT and FL. Why do you suppose that is?
Bill14564
08-30-2025, 01:04 PM
Are you a FL native? If not, why would you move to a state that is run in a manner that you disagree with when there are presumably other places that do?
Faulty crystal ball. No way of knowing what the future was going to bring.
Pugchief
08-30-2025, 01:07 PM
How does Delaware do it ? Extremely low property taxes, and no sales tax....
They get a lot of revenue from being the state of record for many out of state corporations. And this is starting to change, as some of the rogue judges there have made some extremely business-unfriendly rulings recently, causing many corporations to rethink Delaware and use Texas or others instead.
Normal
08-30-2025, 01:13 PM
They get a lot of revenue from being the state of record for many out of state corporations. And this is starting to change, as some of the rogue judges there have made some extremely business-unfriendly rulings recently, causing many corporations to rethink Delaware and use Texas or others instead.
Many are fleeing to Texas , Florida and Nevada because of tax laws.
Leaving Delaware: Why Companies Are Moving to Texas, Florida, and Nevada (https://www.maxfilings.com/incorporation-guide/companies-leaving-delaware/)
kkingston57
08-30-2025, 03:12 PM
people over 65 should be exempt from paying property tax.
Why? People over 65 still use county/city roads, police fire and ambulance services, libraries, etc
OrangeBlossomBaby
08-30-2025, 05:29 PM
15 years ago the taxes on our property in CT were $6,000 a year. God forbid what they must be now! The taxes for our home in Sumter County for the coming year here are $1,700. When we moved here our taxes here were around $1,500 yearly. The taxes have gone up about $200 in 15 years! They used to go up that much in ONE year in our former state. Plus they have an income tax. We have saved the difference of at least that much money every year - for 15 years. I would NEVER begrudge the county for these amounts!!!!!
7 years ago our house in Connecticut was taxed at around $2000. Our tax here in Florida is around $1700. Our taxes in Connecticut paid for a LOT more than our taxes pay for down here. Our property in CT was almost half an acre of wooded fenced land, with a full basement, in the suburbs. Our public education system was MUCH better than it is down here. The cost included snowplowing, which isn't needed here. Our town had its own Senior Center surrounded by independent living duplexes exclusively for seniors on a budget. We had free music in the summer, access to the high school olympic-sized swimming pool on weekends during school session and most days of the summer. We had our own police department and fire department, plus a volunteer fire department on top of that. We had our own EMS, beautiful well-kept and safe public parks, a low crime rate, and roads that were (mostly) kept in good condition (snow plows and asphalt don't make good friends). Compare to here, where we have 1/5 acre, no woods, no fence, no basement. Lady Lake doesn't have an actual Senior Center, and we can't use the school pool. Some Lady Lake roads aren't even paved, and some are just one-lane potholes surrounded by crumbling pieces of blacktop. Yeah we definitely got a better deal up north with regards to property tax.
Pugchief
08-30-2025, 06:07 PM
7 years ago our house in Connecticut was taxed at around $2000. Our tax here in Florida is around $1700. Our taxes in Connecticut paid for a LOT more than our taxes pay for down here. Our property in CT was almost half an acre of wooded fenced land, with a full basement, in the suburbs. Our public education system was MUCH better than it is down here. The cost included snowplowing, which isn't needed here. Our town had its own Senior Center surrounded by independent living duplexes exclusively for seniors on a budget. We had free music in the summer, access to the high school olympic-sized swimming pool on weekends during school session and most days of the summer. We had our own police department and fire department, plus a volunteer fire department on top of that. We had our own EMS, beautiful well-kept and safe public parks, a low crime rate, and roads that were (mostly) kept in good condition (snow plows and asphalt don't make good friends). Compare to here, where we have 1/5 acre, no woods, no fence, no basement. Lady Lake doesn't have an actual Senior Center, and we can't use the school pool. Some Lady Lake roads aren't even paved, and some are just one-lane potholes surrounded by crumbling pieces of blacktop. Yeah we definitely got a better deal up north with regards to property tax.
And you're here why?
And how is it that Lillian (above) was paying $6000 in CT but you were paying only $2000? Unless your place was waaaay smaller. Hard to compare apples to apples unless you're looking at a similar sqft home on a similar lot.
RoseyRed
08-30-2025, 06:43 PM
Read an article about the governor and his real-estate associates wanting property taxes to be eliminated. The big real-estate companies will then increase buying up homes in Florida with no property taxes to pay! There is always a closet deal going on to line the pockets of the ultra-wealthy.
We don't know the details but I would bet big investors who own so much property especially in Tampa would want to be included in this and for all we know lobbied for it.
Pballer
08-30-2025, 08:21 PM
If Florida stays true to form, they will eliminate property taxes for homesteaded properties and make up for it by taxing the hell out of the properties owned by non-residents, as well as tourists.
Unruly
08-30-2025, 09:26 PM
Is anyone of you really looking at the big picture on taxes?? Explain to me how taxes are increasing every year greater than the inflation rate? Then they increase property taxes on an estimated value of your property? They say your property is worth $$$ so we are taxing you on that amount even though we haven't monetarily gain on that amount. That amount is only realized if we sell our property and make that profit. If you own your property and never sell it, you don't gain anything. These counties around here are making money hand over fist and using the tax money for their pet projects not for essential services.
Bill14564
08-30-2025, 09:52 PM
Is anyone of you really looking at the big picture on taxes?? Explain to me how taxes are increasing every year greater than the inflation rate? Then they increase property taxes on an estimated value of your property? They say your property is worth $$$ so we are taxing you on that amount even though we haven't monetarily gain on that amount. That amount is only realized if we sell our property and make that profit. If you own your property and never sell it, you don't gain anything. These counties around here are making money hand over fist and using the tax money for their pet projects not for essential services.
Why is it too much to ask for posters to do some homework and have a clue what they are talking about before spewing so many words on these boards?
Contrary to what was asserted above, my taxes have *decreased* four of the last five years.
As our individual taxes have decreased, Sumter county revenue has increased due to an increase in the number of taxable properties. Simply put, there are more homes paying tax so the individual taxes is less. And where does that money go, what are the pet projects? Perhaps the poster can do *that* research but a guess would be the increased revenue was spent providing services to the increased number of homes - exactly what might be expect.
Govt can be wasteful and ours is likely no different but a little evidence would go a lot further than blind accusations.
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