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Taltarzac725
09-08-2025, 01:47 PM
Hopefully it will come out on Fandango at Home soon so I have time to read the lyrics to the very long play. I do often have trouble understanding the words in various musicals and this one with the combination of various genres of music will be challenging.
elevatorman
09-09-2025, 07:43 AM
Hopefully it will come out on Fandango at Home soon so I have time to read the lyrics to the very long play. I do often have trouble understanding the words in various musicals and this one with the combination of various genres of music will be challenging.
Disney+ has had it for a few years now. You may be able to get a free trial.
ElDiabloJoe
09-09-2025, 09:28 AM
Hamilton and its inherently and infused political leanings and statements are very high on my list of productions with which to never bother.
Taltarzac725
09-09-2025, 09:41 AM
Hamilton and its inherently and infused political leanings and statements are very high on my list of productions with which to never bother.
I am just curious as how they handle Burr....Aaron Burr. I cannot say that with a mouthful of sandwich either. Especially if I have no milk. Got Milk.
My late younger brother did marry a Jamaican lady though so I have heard a lot about what it is like to be an immigrant as well as a minority member in the United States. Her eldest son had a very small part in a Robin Williams movie -- August Rush.
DonH57
09-09-2025, 09:47 AM
Hopefully it will come out on Fandango at Home soon so I have time to read the lyrics to the very long play. I do often have trouble understanding the words in various musicals and this one with the combination of various genres of music will be challenging.
We saw it a few years ago when visiting friends in San Francisco The play is very long. I couldn't speak highly enough of the actors. Great voices. I think the play is so long as each song seemed like it would never end. The only other play I saw was Master Class at the Wilbur theatre in Boston with Faye Dunaway.
Taltarzac725
09-09-2025, 09:52 AM
We saw it a few years ago when visiting friends in San Francisco The play is very long. I couldn't speak highly enough of the actors. Great voices. I think the play is so long as each song seemed like it would never end. The only other play I saw was Master Class at the Wilbur theatre in Boston with Faye Dunaway.
I saw a few plays in San Francisco and a few in Santa Rosa, CA and a season worth at the Guthrie Theater in Minneapolis.
I could really relate to Harvey as I seem to have invisible friends.
Laurawilcox
09-09-2025, 01:40 PM
Love the musical, the poetic words without the standard rhyming like book and nook and the multiple musical themes cascading throughout.
We were also hesitant of the play until a friend advised me to stop avoiding it. The words are rapid. We started with the CD and honestly listened to it lots and then have watched the Disney + show with captions many times. Recommend you break it into 2 parts. The Revolution - Part 1 and come back another day for Our Country’s Foundation - Part 2. Have seen the musical live as well and frankly with length, prefer Disney+ 2 nighters with the chance for two bags of popcorn.
Cannot help but choke up every time I hear the song Unimaginable.
Taltarzac725
09-09-2025, 01:47 PM
Love the musical, the poetic words without the standard rhyming like book and nook and the multiple musical themes cascading throughout.
We were also hesitant of the play until a friend advised me to stop avoiding it. The words are rapid. We started with the CD and honestly listened to it lots and then have watched the Disney + show with captions many times. Recommend you break it into 2 parts. The Revolution - Part 1 and come back another day for Our Country’s Foundation - Part 2. Have seen the musical live as well and frankly with length, prefer Disney+ 2 nighters with the chance for two bags of popcorn.
Cannot help but choke up every time I hear the song Unimaginable.
Thanks for the response.
Taltarzac725
09-09-2025, 07:49 PM
I am just curious as how they handle Burr....Aaron Burr. I cannot say that with a mouthful of sandwich either. Especially if I have no milk. Got Milk.
My late younger brother did marry a Jamaican lady though so I have heard a lot about what it is like to be an immigrant as well as a minority member in the United States. Her eldest son had a very small part in a Robin Williams movie -- August Rush.
I see that the Aaron Burr fan was actually eating peanut butter. Probably a peanut butter sandwich? The "Got Milk" campaign is making a comeback on its 30th anniversary.
macawlaw
09-09-2025, 09:46 PM
I read where Hamilton is expected to make $10m from the release this week. Not bad for a 10 year-old show.
A friend’s son was in the original ensemble (and briefly took over the Jefferson/Lafayette role). What a talented cast.
elevatorman
09-10-2025, 05:51 AM
One of the favorite lines in the show is from King George III when he says "When push comes to shove, I will kill your friends and family, to remind you of my love," King George is a hoot.
MandoMan
09-10-2025, 07:45 AM
I am just curious as how they handle Burr....Aaron Burr. I cannot say that with a mouthful of sandwich either. Especially if I have no milk. Got Milk.
My late younger brother did marry a Jamaican lady though so I have heard a lot about what it is like to be an immigrant as well as a minority member in the United States. Her eldest son had a very small part in a Robin Williams movie -- August Rush.
Alexander Hamilton was born on the Caribbean Island of St. Nevis. His father was a Scot and the son of a laird. His mother was half English (on her mother’s side) and half French (her father was a Protestant Huguenot). So, Hamilton was 100% white. His childhood was hard, especially after his mother died, leaving him an orphan, in 1768. But he was a precocious genius and voracious reader who took advantage of all the educational and work opportunities offered by mentors and benefactors, and he became one of the most important men in American history.
Instead of watching the musical, which introduces a lot of inaccurate ideas, I recommend actually reading Ron Chernow’s outstanding biography of Hamilton, or listen to it. (The musical was partly based on that biography, but made lots of changes. Chernow praised it, as he was getting a lot of money from being the source, but authors generally do that when their books are turned into plays or musicals or movies or TV, even if privately they are upset by the changes.)
If Hamilton was actually of mixed race, I’d have no trouble with that, but he wasn’t.
airstreamingypsy
09-10-2025, 08:24 AM
I've watched it at least 7 times. Les Miz used to be my favorite musical, but Hamilton now has that honor. I can't imagine anyone, who has never seen it, not liking it. It's brilliant. Lin Manuel Miranda is a genius. If you watch it on Disney, the first time you may want to use close captioning to get all the lyrics coming at you rapid fire.
Worldseries27
09-10-2025, 12:51 PM
In honor of the unknown who died in the revolutionary war.
Taltarzac725
09-11-2025, 04:30 PM
I've watched it at least 7 times. Les Miz used to be my favorite musical, but Hamilton now has that honor. I can't imagine anyone, who has never seen it, not liking it. It's brilliant. Lin Manuel Miranda is a genius. If you watch it on Disney, the first time you may want to use close captioning to get all the lyrics coming at you rapid fire.
Saw it this afternoon. Really loved it. Understood almost all the words, too.
Sabella
09-12-2025, 04:46 AM
I've watched it at least 7 times. Les Miz used to be my favorite musical, but Hamilton now has that honor. I can't imagine anyone, who has never seen it, not liking it. It's brilliant. Lin Manuel Miranda is a genius. If you watch it on Disney, the first time you may want to use close captioning to get all the lyrics coming at you rapid fire.
I can’t comment what I would really like to say because I’ll be deleted so I’ll just say I wouldn’t waste my time watching this woke crap
Taltarzac725
09-12-2025, 06:48 AM
One of the favorite lines in the show is from King George III when he says "When push comes to shove, I will kill your friends and family, to remind you of my love," King George is a hoot.
The times that King George came on were often the most amusing.
Win1894
09-12-2025, 01:59 PM
Alexander Hamilton was born on the Caribbean Island of St. Nevis. His father was a Scot and the son of a laird. His mother was half English (on her mother’s side) and half French (her father was a Protestant Huguenot). So, Hamilton was 100% white. His childhood was hard, especially after his mother died, leaving him an orphan, in 1768. But he was a precocious genius and voracious reader who took advantage of all the educational and work opportunities offered by mentors and benefactors, and he became one of the most important men in American history.
Instead of watching the musical, which introduces a lot of inaccurate ideas, I recommend actually reading Ron Chernow’s outstanding biography of Hamilton, or listen to it. (The musical was partly based on that biography, but made lots of changes. Chernow praised it, as he was getting a lot of money from being the source, but authors generally do that when their books are turned into plays or musicals or movies or TV, even if privately they are upset by the changes.)
If Hamilton was actually of mixed race, I’d have no trouble with that, but he wasn’t.
You make some great points here MandoMan - my feelings as well. I loved Chernow's book and liked the musical when I saw it in NYC (it was entertaining), but was a bit annoyed by the historically inaccurate aspects of the production. It didn't have to be that way.
Fenster
09-16-2025, 08:26 PM
Hamilton and its inherently and infused political leanings and statements are very high on my list of productions with which to never bother.
Very much looking forward to NOT watching it!
Kelevision
09-17-2025, 03:39 AM
Hopefully it will come out on Fandango at Home soon so I have time to read the lyrics to the very long play. I do often have trouble understanding the words in various musicals and this one with the combination of various genres of music will be challenging.
I was lucky enough to see the original cast on Broadway and I saw the production in Chicago and I’ve seen the movie. I’ll start by saying, I’m not a hip-hop fan. This production is probably the most brilliant shows ever written. To put in perspective it has 20,520 words. That’s 144 words per minute. If it were sung at a traditional pace, the show would last closer to 6 hours instead of 2.5. Having said that, it’s very easy to understand what they’re saying. When I listen to hip-hop, I have a difficult time understanding the words. NOT the case with Hamilton. It’s written and sung fo people to be able to understand it. It’s amazing.
Kelevision
09-17-2025, 03:41 AM
Hamilton and its inherently and infused political leanings and statements are very high on my list of productions with which to never bother.
Lololololol…. It’s a show about POLITICAL LEADERS from the past. Not sure how you avoid politics. Hahaha. Some would call it “history”
Kelevision
09-17-2025, 03:42 AM
Very much looking forward to NOT watching it!
People like you prove my point about people like you on a daily basis.
Taltarzac725
09-17-2025, 05:18 AM
Lololololol…. It’s a show about POLITICAL LEADERS from the past. Not sure how you avoid politics. Hahaha. Some would call it “history”
It seemed to be mostly about the creation of this great country by flawed but very well read men and women and the struggles they encountered getting out from under the control of an incredibly broken monarchy. Same kind of themes as Gladiator and Gladiator II but not as fast and loose with the facts as those two movies. But our Founding Fathers were very well read on Roman, Greek, and British history and philosophy. They would be considered the heart of woke. The brain of woke probably would be in the Gospels of the Bible . Not so much in the eye for and eye and then some approach you find in much of the Old Testament.
Kelevision
09-17-2025, 05:37 AM
It seemed to be mostly about the creation of this great country by flawed but very well read men and women and the struggles they encountered getting out from under the control of an incredibly broken monarchy. Same kind of themes as Gladiator and Gladiator II but not as fast and loose with the facts as those two movies. But our Founding Fathers were very well read on Roman, Greek, and British history and philosophy. They would be considered the heart of woke.
Casting diverse roles in movies isn’t new. This dates back to at least 1967 when Eartha Kitt replaced Julie Newman as Catwoman. Will Smith was James West in Wild Wild West, he was Aladdin. Denzel Washington in The Equalizer…. In Shawshank Redemption, the Morgan Freeman role was described as white and Irish….I could go on and on. It’s not only skin color. A show I worked on based on a book cast a dark haired brown eyed girl for the character written as Blonde hair and blue eyes. People were upset about that too but quickly got over it. If the acting is good, I couldn’t care less what color the skin is.
Taltarzac725
09-17-2025, 06:04 AM
Casting diverse roles in movies isn’t new. This dates back to at least 1967 when Eartha Kitt replaced Julie Newman as Catwoman. Will Smith was James West in Wild Wild West, he was Aladdin. Denzel Washington in The Equalizer…. In Shawshank Redemption, the Morgan Freeman role was described as white and Irish….I could go on and on. It’s not only skin color. A show I worked on based on a book cast a dark haired brown eyed girl for the character written as Blonde hair and blue eyes. People were upset about that too but quickly got over it. If the acting is good, I couldn’t care less what color the skin is.
It seemed that the Hamilton creator brought in people whose work he was familiar with in some way. It was his creation so he should be able to pick whomever he felt comfortable with.
Some of those dancers really made it big after Hamilton or by being in Hamilton .
I was not much of a fan of Hamilton's ideas in The Federalist Papers if I remember correctly. It has been a long time since I read The Federalist Papers . Full Text of The Federalist Papers - Federalist Papers: Primary Documents in American History - Research Guides at Library of Congress (https://share.google/sTr8LjysLrf8zaTC7)
The Federalist Papers - Wikipedia (https://share.google/AjUVJ9UUW2V76r84b)
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