PCVG Board Changes

[Duck*Soup]

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BOARD CHANGES
Dear PCVG Members,
This letter serves to formally notify you that effective immediately, the following individuals have resigned from their positions on the PCVG Board:
Renie Curry, PCVG Board Chair
Steve Campbell, League Activity Director
Amy Cameron, Marketing Director
Cheryl Hallgren, Membership Director
We are taking this step with a heavy heart, but it has become necessary due to what we believe is an untenable situation within the board. We have become increasingly concerned with the organization's direction, which has, in our view, strayed from its foundational principles.
Our decision is rooted in a fundamental disagreement with the board's current approach to governance and priorities. We have witnessed a troubling pattern of internal conflicts and a disregard for the established bylaws, leading to significant distractions from the core mission of serving our players. We also have serious concerns regarding financial oversight and the lack of a clear vision for the club's future.
We want to be clear: this resignation is a direct result of the issues outlined above. We are not resigning due to any falsehoods that may be circulating. We simply cannot, in good conscience, continue to be associated with a board that we feel has lost its way.
We wish the PCVG and its members the very best. It has been an honor to serve you, and we sincerely hope the organization will find its way back to a path that truly puts its players first.
Sincerely,
Renie Curry, Steve Campbell, Amy Cameron, Cheryl Hallgren

[BrianL99]

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BOARD CHANGES
Dear PCVG Members,
This letter serves to formally notify you that effective immediately, the following individuals have resigned from their positions on the PCVG Board:
Renie Curry, PCVG Board Chair
Steve Campbell, League Activity Director
Amy Cameron, Marketing Director
Cheryl Hallgren, Membership Director


Sincerely,
Renie Curry, Steve Campbell, Amy Cameron, Cheryl Hallgren


What's the heck is the PCVG?

[Pugchief]

What's the heck is the PCVG?

Pickleball
Community
Volunteer
Group

aka the Politburo of PB in TV

[tophcfa]

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BOARD CHANGES
Dear PCVG Members,
This letter serves to formally notify you that effective immediately, the following individuals have resigned from their positions on the PCVG Board:
Renie Curry, PCVG Board Chair
Steve Campbell, League Activity Director
Amy Cameron, Marketing Director
Cheryl Hallgren, Membership Director
We are taking this step with a heavy heart, but it has become necessary due to what we believe is an untenable situation within the board. We have become increasingly concerned with the organization's direction, which has, in our view, strayed from its foundational principles.
Our decision is rooted in a fundamental disagreement with the board's current approach to governance and priorities. We have witnessed a troubling pattern of internal conflicts and a disregard for the established bylaws, leading to significant distractions from the core mission of serving our players. We also have serious concerns regarding financial oversight and the lack of a clear vision for the club's future.
We want to be clear: this resignation is a direct result of the issues outlined above. We are not resigning due to any falsehoods that may be circulating. We simply cannot, in good conscience, continue to be associated with a board that we feel has lost its way.
We wish the PCVG and its members the very best. It has been an honor to serve you, and we sincerely hope the organization will find its way back to a path that truly puts its players first.
Sincerely,
Renie Curry, Steve Campbell, Amy Cameron, Cheryl Hallgren

Dam, sounds like the board is in a pickle?

[BrianL99]

Dam, sounds like the board is in a pickle?

Obviously, things have gone sour.

[Pugchief]

Dam, sounds like the board is in a pickle?

Obviously, things have gone sour.

Paging @Ralphie.....

[Topspinmo]

IMO Probably over replacement of dura balls? the most junk balls in pickleball. Even Franklin x balls are better and around 1/3 the price. I praise rec department for buying Vulcan proV2 balls :bowdown:, hopefully some will filter there way up north (but I doubt it? Who care about old area?). Something had to happen that they didn’t like? Why keep us in dark? Where rat when we need one? :beer3:

[Pugchief]

IMO Probably over replacement of dura balls? the most junk balls in pickleball. Even Franklin x balls are better and around 1/3 the price. I praise rec department for buying Vulcan proV2 balls :bowdown:, hopefully some will filter there way up north (but I doubt it? Who care about old area?). Something had to happen that they didn’t like? Why keep us in dark? Where rat when we need one? :beer3:

I doubt this had anything to do with the balls. PCVG is very political and there has probably been some internal rifts on how certain things should be done.

[Topspinmo]

Pickleball
Community
Volunteer
Group

aka the Politburo of PB in TV

Now that's funny, but true in lots of functions. :shrug:

[rsmurano]

Does the Villages have these kind of boards for each sport? Does golf have 1 too?
There seems to be some issues with this boards resignation statement based on the spokesman’s comments:

“ We have become increasingly concerned with the organization's direction, which has, in our view, strayed from its foundational principles.
Our decision is rooted in a fundamental disagreement with the board's current approach to governance and priorities. We have witnessed a troubling pattern of internal conflicts and a disregard for the established bylaws, leading to significant distractions from the core mission of serving our players. We also have serious concerns regarding financial oversight and the lack of a clear vision for the club's future.”

1) how can this board be upset with the direction of this board? These same people resigning are the exact members setting the direction?
2) internal conflicts? Again, they are referring to the same board they run!
3) financial oversight? I found out this board implemented a $20 fee for any pickleball player who uses any of the boards function. What’s concerning is that it seems the board started getting inquiries on what that fee used for and the board did t know how the money is spent. I hope all boards or organizations within the villages are accountable for any charged fees, that seems like a very reasonable request from the heads of an organization

[thelegges]

OP it will be OK. Sometimes people on volunteer boards who decide what their views are, no longer represent the group as a whole. Infighting starts, lines are drawn, and sides are chosen. So those who feel offended have chosen to take their toys (pickleballs) and leave.

Resigned board will wait for the new board, silently hope no good things come to pass, and they fail. Therefore original board was better.

Or in some cases out with the old ways. Incoming board, will have New and improved leadership.

[npwalters]

Thank you!

Maybe they should have spelled out the acronym but if you are one of the literally thousands of pickleball players in TV you knew what it was. I'm guessing that most golfers know what PGA stands for.

[Indydealmaker]

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BOARD CHANGES
Dear PCVG Members,
This letter serves to formally notify you that effective immediately, the following individuals have resigned from their positions on the PCVG Board:
Renie Curry, PCVG Board Chair
Steve Campbell, League Activity Director
Amy Cameron, Marketing Director
Cheryl Hallgren, Membership Director
We are taking this step with a heavy heart, but it has become necessary due to what we believe is an untenable situation within the board. We have become increasingly concerned with the organization's direction, which has, in our view, strayed from its foundational principles.
Our decision is rooted in a fundamental disagreement with the board's current approach to governance and priorities. We have witnessed a troubling pattern of internal conflicts and a disregard for the established bylaws, leading to significant distractions from the core mission of serving our players. We also have serious concerns regarding financial oversight and the lack of a clear vision for the club's future.
We want to be clear: this resignation is a direct result of the issues outlined above. We are not resigning due to any falsehoods that may be circulating. We simply cannot, in good conscience, continue to be associated with a board that we feel has lost its way.
We wish the PCVG and its members the very best. It has been an honor to serve you, and we sincerely hope the organization will find its way back to a path that truly puts its players first.
Sincerely,
Renie Curry, Steve Campbell, Amy Cameron, Cheryl Hallgren

This is the kind of statement that proves there is a disconnect between those who are capable of recognizing and dealing with "real world" problems and those who are play acting.

[BrianL99]

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BOARD CHANGES
Dear PCVG Members,


What's the heck is the PCVG?

Don't you just hate it when people use abbreviation, especially when they are related to an industry, sports, or specialist segment of our society.

Does the Villages have these kind of boards for each sport? Does golf have 1 too?


In other news, the CPVG (Card Players Volunteer Group) have made "Slap Jack" the preferred card game for 2026......

This is the kind of statement that proves there is a disconnect between those who are capable of recognizing and dealing with "real world" problems and those who are play acting.

Maybe they should have spelled out the acronym but if you are one of the literally thousands of pickleball players in TV you knew what it was. I'm guessing that most golfers know what PGA stands for.

I'm not sure a self-important "volunteer community" group, has quite the name recognition as one of the 2 national organizations, that represents 30,000 Professionals?

BlueStarAirlines wins the prize, for the pithiest post. A couple of honorable mentions on the list, too.

[Justputt]

The OP is devoid of any useful information that could be used to engage in any intelligent discourse. Thus, it is a waste. If you have something to say, be specific.

[RoboVil]

What's the heck is the PCVG?
The organization that pushes residents off their community pickleball courts at almost any time of the day through some unknown arrangement with The Developer.

[RoboVil]

IMO Probably over replacement of dura balls? the most junk balls in pickleball. Even Franklin x balls are better and around 1/3 the price. I praise rec department for buying Vulcan proV2 balls :bowdown:, hopefully some will filter there way up north (but I doubt it? Who care about old area?). Something had to happen that they didn’t like? Why keep us in dark? Where rat when we need one? :beer3:
The word "financial' was mentioned in the resignation letter. Why does a volunteer organization have so many corporate donors? Who is getting the money? How does a non-profit organization, and thus not part of the Villages, get priority over pickleball court times from Village residents? They pay no (known) fees to take over the courts. The arrangement is odd and not transparent.

[RoboVil]

Does the Villages have these kind of boards for each sport? Does golf have 1 too?
There seems to be some issues with this boards resignation statement based on the spokesman’s comments:

“ We have become increasingly concerned with the organization's direction, which has, in our view, strayed from its foundational principles.
Our decision is rooted in a fundamental disagreement with the board's current approach to governance and priorities. We have witnessed a troubling pattern of internal conflicts and a disregard for the established bylaws, leading to significant distractions from the core mission of serving our players. We also have serious concerns regarding financial oversight and the lack of a clear vision for the club's future.”

1) how can this board be upset with the direction of this board? These same people resigning are the exact members setting the direction?
2) internal conflicts? Again, they are referring to the same board they run!
3) financial oversight? I found out this board implemented a $20 fee for any pickleball player who uses any of the boards function. What’s concerning is that it seems the board started getting inquiries on what that fee used for and the board did t know how the money is spent. I hope all boards or organizations within the villages are accountable for any charged fees, that seems like a very reasonable request from the heads of an organization
This organization is a stand-alone, non-profit not directly associated with the Villages. Somehow, The Villages rec organization gives them priority access to take over the pickleball courts for their use. What a great set-up - free pickleball courts and priority times and take in money from corporate donors and more! What a sweetheart deal.

[Pugchief]

1) how can this board be upset with the direction of this board? These same people resigning are the exact members setting the direction?
2) internal conflicts? Again, they are referring to the same board they run!
How does any governing body with more than one person necessarily all agree? Different people have different opinions. They don't all agree. Like any parliamentary government in the world.

3) financial oversight? I found out this board implemented a $20 fee for any pickleball player who uses any of the boards function. What’s concerning is that it seems the board started getting inquiries on what that fee used for and the board did t know how the money is spent. I hope all boards or organizations within the villages are accountable for any charged fees, that seems like a very reasonable request from the heads of an organization
The new fee is supposedly to cover the cost of using and managing a new software platform that keeps track of players, matches, DUPR* scores, etc. You don't have to pay the fee unless you want to participate in PCVG leagues or tournaments. All other PB in TV is not affected.

*DUPR = Dynamic Universal Pickleball Rating

[Pugchief]

The OP is devoid of any useful information that could be used to engage in any intelligent discourse. Thus, it is a waste. If you have something to say, be specific.

Disagree completely. An email was sent to everyone in their huge database, and the information within was vague in some ways. OP was looking for clarification from those in the know, since it was likely not forthcoming from PCVG.

[Pugchief]

The organization that pushes residents off their community pickleball courts at almost any time of the day through some unknown arrangement with The Developer.

Are you saying that some residents of TV, who pay their amenities fee like everyone else, are not entitled to participate in leagues, tournaments, clinics, drills and other group PB? Do you think that coordination of those activities will magically happen on its own without some volunteers to organize it?

There are over 300 PB courts in TV. Lots of opportunities to play. Maybe not in the location you want at the time you want, but still, lots of options.

[BrianL99]

The organization that pushes residents off their community pickleball courts at almost any time of the day through some unknown arrangement with The Developer.

As I don't play Pickleball, I don't have any knowledge of the arrangements, but that doesn't sound like a great arrangement ... although I guess it's probably similar to towns that have an "arrangement" with Little League Teams or Soccer Leagues.

[npwalters]

The organization that pushes residents off their community pickleball courts at almost any time of the day through some unknown arrangement with The Developer.

Actually, PCVG has an agreement with the recreation department to use a limited number of courts from 10 to 12 in the winter and 8 to 10 in the summer. "any time of the day" is a gross overstatement. When they do use the courts they fill 100% of the courts reserved.

I, along with about 150 others, donate my time to teach during the times the courts are reserved for instruction. Several other courts are reserved once a week for various competitive leagues.

[Topspinmo]

Actually, PCVG has an agreement with the recreation department to use a limited number of courts from 10 to 12 in the winter and 8 to 10 in the summer. "any time of the day" is a gross overstatement. When they do use the courts they fill 100% of the courts reserved.

I, along with about 150 others, donate my time to teach during the times the courts are reserved for instruction. Several other courts are reserved once a week for various competitive leagues.

Why do they take up open play times from 8 to 10 am. That should NOT be allowed, that’s residents open play times.

[Topspinmo]

The organization that pushes residents off their community pickleball courts at almost any time of the day through some unknown arrangement with The Developer.


I don’t think the developers has nothing to do with it. I imagine it’s head of rec department that rec center named after. :read:

[BrianL99]

Why do they take up open play times from 8 to 10 am. That should NOT be allowed, that’s residents open play times.

Are the people playing during the reserved time ... not residents???

[Topspinmo]

Are the people playing during the reserved time ... not residents???


Maybe? But that’s not my job, it’s rec centers. In my local area not problem that I aware of?
I would imagine hard to check ID at Rohan pods and couple more that got over 6 courts?

[npwalters]

Why do they take up open play times from 8 to 10 am. That should NOT be allowed, that’s residents open play times.

As another said, they are residents (they have to register with their villages ID number). However, we only teach from 8 to 10 in the summer and that is due to heat. Plus, we only teach introductory classes once a month in the summer. That changes to once a week in the fall/winter. We will switch back to 10 to 12 in October. The classes are always booked full with a waiting list in the high season.

[BrianL99]

Why do they take up open play times from 8 to 10 am. That should NOT be allowed, that’s residents open play times.

Are the people playing during the reserved time ... not residents???

Maybe? But that’s not my job, it’s rec centers. In my local area not problem that I aware of?
I would imagine hard to check ID at Rohan pods and couple more that got over 6 courts?

I'll ask the question another way. Why shouldn't they be using specific times, they're residents?

It's no different than a "group" booking a block of Tee Times. The Villages specifically allows this and has a special procedure, where larger groups get a preferred, blocked Tee Time on a regular basis.

[Paradise909]

This is the kind of statement that proves there is a disconnect between those who are capable of recognizing and dealing with "real world" problems and those who are play acting. It proves you don’t know what happened. An evil woman created a smear campaign against them involving 100s of players. That’s the readers digest version. Someone posted a statement.on their Facebook page pickleballcommunity that has a little more information. The lady was let go due to cause and then lied to her friends to get them riled up against board members.

[Paradise909]

Disagree completely. An email was sent to everyone in their huge database, and the information within was vague in some ways. OP was looking for clarification from those in the know, since it was likely not forthcoming from PCVG. The letter they sent was professional and classy. There seems to be more information on their Facebook page pickleballcommunity My understanding is the best people left.

[Altavia]

I'll ask the question another way. Why shouldn't they be using specific times, they're residents?

It's no different than a "group" booking a block of Tee Times. The Villages specifically allows this and has a special procedure, where larger groups get a preferred, blocked Tee Time on a regular basis.

Exactly, anyone can reserve court times via the Rec Center. A number of groups do so for play and instructional drills. The same for tennis, beach tennis and platform tennis. The schedules are available on the boards outside the courts.

The PCVG volunteer's do an excellent job organizing the leagues, tournaments and instructional sessions. From my perspective, things improved and expanded significantly the past year or two.

[WharfRat]

Disagree completely. An email was sent to everyone in their huge database, and the information within was vague in some ways. OP was looking for clarification from those in the know, since it was likely not forthcoming from PCVG.

What if I’m not in the database? If so, I wouldn’t have received the email you are referring to. From the OP, all we know is people resigned because they are dissatisfied with the current state of affairs. What’s the back story and what needs to happen for the situation to improve?

[Topspinmo]

I'll ask the question another way. Why shouldn't they be using specific times, they're residents?

It's no different than a "group" booking a block of Tee Times. The Villages specifically allows this and has a special procedure, where larger groups get a preferred, blocked Tee Time on a regular basis.


Because it’s open play time through out villages. Plenty to reserve times after 10 am. They just want take time from residents that don’t belong to their little click. Golf has nothing to do with it cause all times are reserved, there no scheduled open tees times at any of courses, mo there times that not reserved which would open by no one reserving.

[BrianL99]

Because it’s open play time through out villages. Plenty to reserve times after 10 am. They just want take time from residents that don’t belong to their little click. Golf has nothing to do with it cause all times are reserved, there no scheduled open tees times at any of courses, mo there times that not reserved which would open by no one reserving.

What's a "click"?

& you're incorrect about the golf system.

Golf groups with 32 or more players (I think that's the #), get special priority for Tee Times and their times are blocked off from the rest of the residents.

Further, you can buy an "enhanced membership" and get priority to book Tee Times.

If there are "plenty of reserve times after 10", sleep in and play after 10.

[WingedFoot78]

Jeez, even our sports are going down the crapper! What next?

[BrianL99]

Jeez, even our sports are going down the crapper! What next?

Banning Loofha Sponges on antennas and drinking before noon?

[RoboVil]

Actually, PCVG has an agreement with the recreation department to use a limited number of courts from 10 to 12 in the winter and 8 to 10 in the summer. "any time of the day" is a gross overstatement. When they do use the courts they fill 100% of the courts reserved.

I, along with about 150 others, donate my time to teach during the times the courts are reserved for instruction. Several other courts are reserved once a week for various competitive leagues.
Then reserve rec enters which have multiple 6-courts sets like Rohan and stay off the single community PB courts. Where does all the money from the donors go? I am just waiting until a similar organization starts doing the same thing on golf courses.

[Topspinmo]

Are the people playing during the reserved time ... not residents???


I don’t know not my job checking ID’s , but till 10am open play. I think I’ll make up group name and reserve open play times cause I don’t want wait in line in. That way I can force local players to go some where else during open play time. IMO no problems after 10AM, but as one privileged members said it’s too hot so they force local RESIDENTS to go somewhere else. Entitled little group aren’t they.