Two and a half men

[jebartle]

I confess, I'm absolutely hooked on this disgusting show...giggle....My question, WHY hasn't Charlie Sheen been arrested when media reports drug parties....The average Joe, would have been thrown in jail by now....I must be missing something!:shrug::shrug:

[2newyorkers]

I also love this show, but I do not think the last 2 years have been as good as previous years.

[redwitch]

The media can report anything it wants -- the police have to have evidence. So, if they ain't there, they can't arrest on someone's say-so. I feel sorry for Charlie. I mean really, truly sorry. He has a serious illness and no intention to truly get the help he needs. When he works, he works. When he isn't working, he parties.

Arresting him is not the answer. Jail has rarely got a junkie to quit using -- it's just kept the junkie off the streets and stopped the illegal activities needed to support the habit. Let's face it, Charlie's illegal activities aren't robbery and burglary. He can afford his habit for a couple of lifetimes. (Of course, his lifetimes are going to be awfully short if he doesn't quit.) Rehab only works if the junkies wants to quit. For now, Charlie doesn't want to.

It was kind of interesting on The View recently. Whoopie stated she understood Charlie's addiction perfectly -- including that he would leave rehab to do the series. She said when she was addicted, she was the same way. She could do her job with no problem, but the minute the movie, gig, whatever was done, she would go back to heavy usage and partying. I'm so glad she quit using. I hope Charlie finds his bottom so that he can be the actor he was.

[katezbox]

The media can report anything it wants -- the police have to have evidence. So, if they ain't there, they can't arrest on someone's say-so. I feel sorry for Charlie. I mean really, truly sorry. He has a serious illness and no intention to truly get the help he needs. When he works, he works. When he isn't working, he parties.

Arresting him is not the answer. Jail has rarely got a junkie to quit using -- it's just kept the junkie off the streets and stopped the illegal activities needed to support the habit. Let's face it, Charlie's illegal activities aren't robbery and burglary. He can afford his habit for a couple of lifetimes. (Of course, his lifetimes are going to be awfully short if he doesn't quit.) Rehab only works if the junkies wants to quit. For now, Charlie doesn't want to.

It was kind of interesting on The View recently. Whoopie stated she understood Charlie's addiction perfectly -- including that he would leave rehab to do the series. She said when she was addicted, she was the same way. She could do her job with no problem, but the minute the movie, gig, whatever was done, she would go back to heavy usage and partying. I'm so glad she quit using. I hope Charlie finds his bottom so that he can be the actor he was.

Red - I don't like the show, but feel much the way you do about Charlie.... I like to read posts by those who look behind the issues and feel compassion....

[BritParrothead]

Love the show!! The new season has just started here in England. So funny!!:clap2: :clap2:

[Russ_Boston]

From all reports Charlie is a consummate professional on the set. And it shows in his work.

I agree with Red. He doesn't seem willing to try and kick it. Not sure what the bottom will be but I feel it is coming sooner than later.

[graciegirl]

The show has been shut down.

I guess than that he will have all of his time to do drugs which bodes ill for him.

I think he is so addicted that the decisions are already made. He can't decide to stop.

Sad. Really sad.

Drug addiction is horrible.

[Ooper]

Production will resume again March 1st. Apparently, the network will only be short a few of the originally planned episodes.

[nitehawk]

I really hope he stops - Please not another "John Belushe"

[zcaveman]

Production will resume again March 1st. Apparently, the network will only be short a few of the originally planned episodes.

According to the Sentinel, he did a rant against creator Chuck Lorre and Lorre shut down production for the season. It is verified at TV Guide.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Charlie-Sheen-Two-Half-Men-1029823.aspx

[quidam65]

Sheen went on a syndicated talk radio/internet show with Alex Jones (an Austin, Texas based right-wing conspiracy nut of the worst order; for example he thinks having fluoride in the water supply is a means of government mind control) and essentially slammed Lorre (who's real name is Charles Levine) for being Jewish (Jones is also an anti-Semite).

Lorre doesn't need Sheen to make money. Lorre is also the creator of another popular CBS sitcom, The Big Bang Theory; Jim Parsons recently won a Golden Globe and an Emmy for his portrayal of Dr. Sheldon Cooper, one of the show's lead characters. The only "incident" on that show is that another of the main characters was out for two episodes due to a broken leg sustained while horseback riding, a far cry from a drug and sex party that tore up an entire hotel room.

[Ooper]

According to the Sentinel, he did a rant against creator Chuck Lorre and Lorre shut down production for the season. It is verified at TV Guide.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Charlie-Sheen-Two-Half-Men-1029823.aspx

Today's Daily Sun (2/25/11) reported differently... and we all know our Daily Sun only reports verified facts!

[redwitch]

Charlie hangs a bad name on all perverts, alcoholics and drug addicts. Tsk Tsk Tsk.

Like all alcoholics and addicts, Charlie Sheen has an illness. He also has a great talent and a great ego. The two combined make for a great tragedy, not just for him but those who worked on Two and Half Men, his family and friends and those who get involved in his messes. However, he does not give a bad name to those suffering from alcoholism and addiction, any more than an Alzheimer's patient who runs down the street nude gives that disease a bad name. Hopefully, he will soon hit bottom so that we can again enjoy his talent. Until then, we can pray for him rather than make light of his disease.

[zcaveman]

Today's Daily Sun (2/25/11) reported differently... and we all know our Daily Sun only reports verified facts!

But I read the Sentinel first so I take the first word as Gospel. :pepper2:

Now that I think if it, that comment will get a few comments!!! :shrug:

[Bosoxfan]

She said when she was addicted, she was the same way. She could do her job with no problem, but the minute the movie, gig, whatever was done, she would go back to heavy usage and partying. I'm so glad she quit using. I hope Charlie finds his bottom so that he can be the actor he was.

I'm sure it was a slip but she" was" addicted.You seem to understand the subject so I'm guessing you know that once an addict always an addict.Being clean & sober doesn't mean you're no longer addicted.

[redwitch]

True re once an addict, always an addict. But I prefer to think of it as someone is no long addicted and a user. And yes to kowing about addiction. I lost one of my best friends to heroin. She tried for years to quit using. I was the one she called when high, when coming down, when trying to quit, when going into and out of rehab. I'd hang up on her when high. Get her to the hospital when going through cold turkey. Pick her up from rehab (she had to find her own way there). She'd try so hard to stay clean and something would always come along to get her started again. She ultimately died of an overdose. It was one of the most heartbreaking things I ever had to see and I do have deep sympathies for anyone addicted -- whether it is to cigarettes, like me; cocaine; or whatever. There is no question that drug and alcohol addictions are illnesses. Very few quit using without a lot of help, a deep desire to quit and the strength to say no once they have quit. I'm still praying that Charlie finds the desire to quit. I really do believe he has the strength to stay off once he sees what his life can be like. My friend never had that strength.

[billethkid]

It usually does not happen...rehab that is...Lindsey Lohan for another example!!
You can rearrange the spots on a leopard and when you are done you still have a leopard.
Plus some rich and famous act and are treated as though they are above the law.

btk

[iaudit]

It usually does not happen...rehab that is...Lindsey Lohan for another example!!
You can rearrange the spots on a leopard and when you are done you still have a leopard.
Plus some rich and famous act and are treated as though they are above the law.

btk
Now why did you have to start talking about he Morse family again?

[Russ_Boston]

Today's Daily Sun (2/25/11) reported differently... and we all know our Daily Sun only reports verified facts!


The Sun, like every other newspaper that was printed last night, reported the news as they had it.

Early today the news about a season ending hiatus came out. Can't expect any hard copy newspaper to have that news. Not even the Daily Fun:)

[EdV]

It’s now clear to me that the HALF man in this scenario is Charlie Sheen! What a looser.

[Russ_Boston]

It’s now clear to me that the HALF man in this scenario is Charlie Sheen! What a looser.

:thumbup:

[hedoman]

Looks like it will be down to 1 1/2 men...Sheen is out for good!

[nitehawk]

All of this talk will not stop me from watching the re-runs of the show. Very funny - "Kick a man when he is down" - or even better - "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone".

[Russ_Boston]

All of this talk will not stop me from watching the re-runs of the show. Very funny - "Kick a man when he is down" - or even better - "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone".

Unfortuantly this man needs a kick. Like any other addict he needs to hit bottom (that point is unique for each addict) before he turns back up. Don't get me wrong - I'm rooting for him. But at this point in his cycle he doesn't need enabling and that's what was happening every time he had an incident in the past.

My 2C

[Russ_Boston]

Russ, How did you know when you hit bottom? Maybe old chuck could use your first hand knowledge to help him find his way.

Never having been an addict I don't know. But there are many programs out there that can help. Don't claim to be an expert but I know many former addicts who admit that they needed to reach their personal rock bottom before they sought real help.

[EdV]

It’s one thing to be self destructive but it’s the damage he’s inflicted on everyone around him that I find inexcusable, especially for someone who is making millions of dollars in the entertainment industry.

And he’s no stranger to re-hab either having been up and down more times than Shaquille O'Neal under a basketball hoop.

Here’s a link to some of his more notable accomplishments (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-12-29/charlie-sheens-top-five-scandals/).

[redwitch]

I'm with Russ. Charlie has not hit his bottom. Going back to The View and Whoopie, her bottom was when she couldn't get out of bed to go to the bathroom. It has nothing to do with money, it has to do with something finally happening that is unacceptable to your asthetics and morals. Charlie has not found his. Sadly, I'm not really convinced there is anything that would be unacceptable except maybe being unable to do his job. Again, sadly, when he is working, he is working and does his job -- brilliantly most of the time.

It doesn't matter how many scrapes he gets into. It doesn't matter how many times he is forced into rehab. It really doesn't even matter how many times he goes to jail -- like many addicts, he will just get high the second he gets out; jail is just a hiatus. They're not his bottoms.

No question he said some incredibly stupid things and maybe the show being cancelled will be a wake up call. I doubt it was ever his intention for the show to shut down and people become unemployed. He thought he was so necessary that he could say what he wanted and there would be no repercussions. He was wrong.

So, as you are busy condemning and judging him, please have enough compassion to remember that he is an addict and, whether you like it or not, addiction is an illness. An illness that destroys the individual, the people around the individual and causes much heartbreak.

[jebartle]

:bowdown::bowdown:


I'm with Russ. Charlie has not hit his bottom. Going back to The View and Whoopie, her bottom was when she couldn't get out of bed to go to the bathroom. It has nothing to do with money, it has to do with something finally happening that is unacceptable to your asthetics and morals. Charlie has not found his. Sadly, I'm not really convinced there is anything that would be unacceptable except maybe being unable to do his job. Again, sadly, when he is working, he is working and does his job -- brilliantly most of the time.

It doesn't matter how many scrapes he gets into. It doesn't matter how many times he is forced into rehab. It really doesn't even matter how many times he goes to jail -- like many addicts, he will just get high the second he gets out; jail is just a hiatus. They're not his bottoms.

No question he said some incredibly stupid things and maybe the show being cancelled will be a wake up call. I doubt it was ever his intention for the show to shut down and people become unemployed. He thought he was so necessary that he could say what he wanted and there would be no repercussions. He was wrong.

So, as you are busy condemning and judging him, please have enough compassion to remember that he is an addict and, whether you like it or not, addiction is an illness. An illness that destroys the individual, the people around the individual and causes much heartbreak.

[Russ_Boston]

It won't be money for Charlie.

With 177 episodes of 2 1/2 in the can he will have money rolling in long after he needs it.

Not many of us know the depths it would take. Let's just hope his bottom comes while he's alive.