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K9-Lovers
02-18-2011, 08:48 PM
I usually post funny videos about our pets. This time I'm posting about a very serious matter.

Ebay has decided to start selling puppies and other pets and live animals online. Reputable breeders would never use ebay to sell their puppies. Therefore, only the worst backyard breeders and puppy mills will be selling on ebay.

In case you don't know what puppy mills are, they breed their females over and over with every season until their bodies are worn out and then they either kill them or dump them at shelters. Puppy mills/backyard breeders keep dogs in wire cages their entire lives causing malformed feet. Some are kept completely in the dark their entire lives. They are overcrowded and live in their own feces.

Please google "puppy mills" to learn more.

Having rescued a female breeding dog from one of these torture chambers, I know first-hand how terrible these places really are.

Please sign the petition on the attached link to stop ebay from selling live animals. It's not one of those petition sites where they bombard you with emails and try to sell you stuff. This one is legitimate.

Thank you. Please help make a difference for suffering animals.

http://www.change.org/petitions/ebay-classifieds-stop-selling-live-animals

Halle
02-18-2011, 10:05 PM
K9 Lover thank you for posting the Ebay information about selling puppies. I signed the petition and posted it on my Facebook page so all of my friends can sign it and pass it along to their friends.

:doggie::doggie::

barb1191
02-18-2011, 10:43 PM
Rather than sign that "Petition" for your own identity safety, maybe you should consider keeping control of your personal information and write directly to ebay to request they cease and desist immediately from selling live animals. Send a copy of your letter to all of the animal protective agencies you can find to help move along in ending this atrocity.

One must be very cautious of what we communicate online. The "Petition" should have the explanation of what you're signing. Signing this blank form is much too dangerous as that's how hackers and identity thieves and cyberspace marketeers victimize people.

Merely a word to the wise, for your own safety. Peetitions MUST BE signed and not printed in order to be valid.

Please send your message directly to eBay.....b

K9-Lovers
02-19-2011, 12:06 AM
The only information requested on the petition, besides your email address, is name and address. That info is available in a wide variety of places on the net. Just google your name and you will find that your address is widely known. Your identity cannot be stolen from signing this petition.

But, just in case you are wary, here are links to Ebay's classified page and cute animals page on facebook:


http://chn.ge/fX5W2S

http://chn.ge/eRb2R9

K9-Lovers
02-19-2011, 12:14 AM
K9 Lover thank you for posting the Ebay information about selling puppies. I signed the petition and posted it on my Facebook page so all of my friends can sign it and pass it along to their friends.

:doggie::doggie::

Thank you, Halle.:thumbup:

Taltarzac
02-19-2011, 07:25 AM
OK. Signed.

Tom Hannon
02-19-2011, 07:48 AM
Signed. Your doing a good job of bringing awareness to a terrible business. Thanks. K-9

KayakerNC
02-19-2011, 07:52 AM
I checked the eBay Classifieds for my area and found the ads to be mostly from the local shelter and the rest were personal sales.
No puppy mills.:shrug:
So, no, I wouldn't bother with a "petition".

K9-Lovers
02-19-2011, 01:15 PM
I checked the eBay Classifieds for my area and found the ads to be mostly from the local shelter and the rest were personal sales.
No puppy mills.:shrug:
So, no, I wouldn't bother with a "petition".

Often, "personal sales" are from people who are called "backyard breeders" and some of these breeders are just as bad as the larger puppy mills. The term "backyard breeders" does not represent folks whose dog just happened to have puppies accidentally, or folks who breed their dog several times.

Backyard breeders are using dogs for profit, usually have a number of breeder females and males whose only purpose is to provide puppies for sale. The dogs are kept in filthy conditions, never receive affection, and because they are sometimes noisy and the owners embarrassed of the housing conditions -- they are often kept in old mobile homes or shacks without a/c or ventilation. The windows are painted black so no one can see in and the doors and windows are kept shut so noise doesn't travel as far.

In any case, just because you don't see evidence in your area of this type of traffic, the bigger picture is that puppy mills and backyard breeders in other areas of the country will find ebay as another outlet for their profit, thereby encouraging more breeding. So, if you care to try to eliminate suffering, even though it is not in your small neighborhood, please rethink your decision.

K9-Lovers
02-19-2011, 01:22 PM
Thank you Tal and Tom! :crap2: To the rescue!!

duffysmom
02-19-2011, 04:39 PM
Despicable..:icon_twisted: Signed and sent. Thanks K9

katezbox
02-19-2011, 11:09 PM
The only information requested on the petition, besides your email address, is name and address. That info is available in a wide variety of places on the net. Just google your name and you will find that your address is widely known. Your identity cannot be stolen from signing this petition.

But, just in case you are wary, here are links to Ebay's classified page and cute animals page on facebook:


http://chn.ge/fX5W2S

http://chn.ge/eRb2R9

K-9

But not available TOGETHER! I'm with Barb... though I despise this, I will contact eBay directly.

FYI - I work for one of the largest IT companies in the world... never give your name/address and e-mail together unless you want to risk cyberfraud...

K9-Lovers
02-19-2011, 11:37 PM
K-9

But not available TOGETHER! I'm with Barb... though I despise this, I will contact eBay directly.

FYI - I work for one of the largest IT companies in the world... never give your name/address and e-mail together unless you want to risk cyberfraud...

Can you explain further? Most sites that I frequent want that information, such as Blockbuster, Amazon, etc., etc.,

What type of cyberfraud can result from listing your name, address and email? It seems there would have to be some sort of solicitation from a criminal, such as an email or letter asking for passwords, account numbers, etc. Answering those solicitations would be inviting cyberfraud, but I don't know how someone could harm us just because they have that simple info: name, address, email address.

Can you explain more, please? I'd like to learn and I'm sure others would, too.

K9-Lovers
02-20-2011, 11:55 PM
Still waiting to hear from Katezbox, or Barb1191, or any other cyberguru . . . ???

barb1191
02-21-2011, 01:30 AM
Still waiting to hear from Katezbox, or Barb1191, or any other cyberguru . . . ???

There's a plethora on the net about this and can be researched in that way, or you can email Jmax@aol.com and in the Subject just write HELP then ask your question and she will respond to you in detail as she is so very aware of the serious problems of identity theft, etc.

The Villages has a great computer club that meets every third friday at 3 pm at the club house on Page Place in Spanish Springs.

I've previously explained to you briefly as to why I feel so serious about this, however, if you feel you need more information, I suggest the following to you and hope it helps.

Here's a link that may be of interest to you and you may want to scroll down the page to "Are Email Petitions Useful?"....

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/#email-petition-value

Hope this helps.....barb1191

katezbox
02-21-2011, 10:25 AM
Can you explain further? Most sites that I frequent want that information, such as Blockbuster, Amazon, etc., etc.,

What type of cyberfraud can result from listing your name, address and email? It seems there would have to be some sort of solicitation from a criminal, such as an email or letter asking for passwords, account numbers, etc. Answering those solicitations would be inviting cyberfraud, but I don't know how someone could harm us just because they have that simple info: name, address, email address.

Can you explain more, please? I'd like to learn and I'm sure others would, too.

Hi K9,

Sites for shopping - such as Amazon have secure servers that protect and encrypt your information in a variety of ways, including setting up an account with your password, typing in optical recognition characters, etc.

E-mail petitions are quite different. You are providing personal info that can be viewed by anyone - including those hackers in Africa that want to pay you the millions of dollars you have won or have been bequeathed, if only you will provide them with you bank transit number - oh and your SS# for tax purposes.

Seniors are a big target for fraud. In many cases, they (we!) have securities that provide us with an income stream, but that could also be turned into cash. One of my good friends (a retired teacher!) really believed that Bill Gates would share $1,000 of his wealth with her if she was one of the first 100,000 who signed this petition and forwarded it to 10 friends. Just do the math!

Barb gives very good advice - take the computer class, you will learn to be a smarter and safer internet user.

K9-Lovers
02-21-2011, 02:39 PM
So if I understand correctly, just the fact that our name, address and email address are on a list somewhere, doesn't mean that fraud can be committed. In order for fraud or some type of crime to occur, we must be contacted by someone trying to commit fraud by posing as a legitimate business, person, etc. Since most of our information is already online in databases, we should be vigilant in researching and confirming requests for information by mail, phone, or online. For example, if Paypal or your Bank, or anyone else contacts us and asks for passwords, account numbers, etc., contact that business directly via the phone number that appears on your correspondence from them.

Yes, scammers and crooks and all types of evil are everywhere.

So, while you may hesitate to sign an online petition, you can contact ebay to express your opinions regarding selling of puppies directly if you have a facebook page by using these links:


http://chn.ge/fX5W2S

http://chn.ge/eRb2R9

barb1191
02-21-2011, 03:51 PM
So if I understand correctly, just the fact that our name, address and email address are on a list somewhere, doesn't mean that fraud can be committed. In order for fraud or some type of crime to occur, we must be contacted by someone trying to commit fraud by posing as a legitimate business, person, etc. Since most of our information is already online in databases, we should be vigilant in researching and confirming requests for information by mail, phone, or online. For example, if Paypal or your Bank, or anyone else contacts us and asks for passwords, account numbers, etc., contact that business directly via the phone number that appears on your correspondence from them.

Yes, scammers and crooks and all types of evil are everywhere.

So, while you may hesitate to sign an online petition, you can contact ebay to express your opinions regarding selling of puppies directly if you have a facebook page by using these links:


http://chn.ge/fX5W2S

http://chn.ge/eRb2R9

Wrong on the first sentence. Fraud CAN be committed because your information has been sent to unknowns who may be hackers. You are exposing your information to unknown sources who can commmit fraud merely from that bit of information about you. Point being....DO NOT ADD YOUR identity in any form to strangers and more so to people you know and trust WHO DO NOT DELETE THE PRIOR ADDRESSES ON THE EMAILS.

Why add your information for strangers to see? You're inviting trouble. If you have friends that do not erase the listings of email addresses and forward you emails with so many names on it from prior forwards, that's the problem. That email with your name on it continues on to be forwarded by whomever you forwarded it to and the list grows and grows to a point where hackers can have a field day with all of the names listed in just one email.

When you deal with banks, companies such as Amazon, you register and sign into their website and are then on a secured site where only the principles involved can enter this site.

I feel the more I attempt to explain this, the more confusion you may feel. Really, the best way for you to protect yourself is to use the "search" tool and research for the answers or doubts that you may have.

I have emailed everyone on my email address listing that I will NOT open any emails that have "FWD" on the subject line because that shows that the particular email has crossed many paths to get to you and is subject to adding you to this path of innocent or not people.

I'm sure that you would get much satisfaction if you attended the computer classes here in TV, that is if you reside in TV. This in no way is an attempt to interfere with your very kind effort to help our animals. Kudos for you doing your best efforts. Hope that you will accept this information in kind to help you to avoid any form of ID foul play.....barb

PS: Your last sentence is a big resounding YES. Do not give ANYONE your personal information from an email you receive. You MUST call to confirm the ligitimacy of the received email.

K9-Lovers
02-21-2011, 07:03 PM
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af306/doggiewood/Ne2.jpg http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af306/doggiewood/Snider.jpg

The photos above are dogs kept by a backyard breeder in a mobile home on the rear of his property. The photo below is a puppy mill -- notice it is a stone building with no windows. These dogs live in pure blackness -- no light at all. Can you imagine the stench?

http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af306/doggiewood/2.jpg

These are some of the breeder dogs from "personal sales" from backyard breeders and puppy mills. My first little poodle looked like the bony one when I rescued her, but she was blind, had no teeth, and was so weak she could not stand up or walk. She was only 6 years old.

http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af306/doggiewood/Hope.jpg

http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af306/doggiewood/Carmel.jpg

Mich_Duval
03-16-2011, 04:51 PM
I have adopted 3 animals (1 dog & 2 cats) by either going to my local shelter or searching petfinder. All were rescued from pet mills or a back yard breeder. This is horrible that they are now using eBay.

Hope you can stop them.

K9-Lovers
03-17-2011, 09:02 AM
God bless you, Mitch Duval, for rescuing those sweet dogs. All (most) dogs are sweethearts, whether they are trapped in a cage their whole lives, have been abused in medical labs, used for dog fighting, or neglected on a chain in the backyard with little food, no water, and no companionship. Sadly, some go insane.