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DDoug
03-14-2011, 06:15 AM
My wife and I went over to the bridge last night to watch the sun set first time in 6 years and I am amazed the rudness of villages people. Lady was setting in an open parking place in a lawn chair saving a space for someone. Then someone else had 4 spaces blocked. Not the first time I have seen this but I can see it at a restaurant but not on public streets. This is not the friendliest town in Florida. But then I guss you have people like that every where. First come first serve I dont think that applies in this case.

Bill-n-Brillo
03-14-2011, 06:53 AM
Is there any room along there to park off in the grass? (I can't remember.)

Bill

Ohiogirl
03-14-2011, 07:04 AM
North of the parking area on Friday night we saw a golf cart - looked possible. Brought guests there Friday night on our way to Katie Belle's to see Rocky & the Rollers. Got about the last parking space.

Kind of hard to exit - you are right, some rude people, 2 of them about had a face-off, both seeming to refuse to yield - people exiting both ways and cars parked parallel along the curb behind the golf cart parking made for a narrow area, really only room for one cart at a time.

Xavier
03-14-2011, 07:33 AM
My wife and I went over to the bridge last night to watch the sun set first time in 6 years and I am amazed the rudness of villages people. Lady was setting in an open parking place in a lawn chair saving a space for someone. Then someone else had 4 spaces blocked. Not the first time I have seen this but I can see it at a restaurant but not on public streets. This is not the friendliest town in Florida. But then I guss you have people like that every where. First come first serve I dont think that applies in this case.

You are so correct, but the only person you personally can control is you. Don't let it upset you. Life is too short to ruin your day on such people. After-all it's not the end of the world. Pull off in the grass on the north side of the bridge for another view point.

If you are dead serious about this I guess you could contact Community Watch and/or Customer Service, but I really think it's a waste of time.

Xavier

jblum315
03-14-2011, 08:41 AM
North of the parking area on Friday night we saw a golf cart - looked possible. Brought guests there Friday night on our way to Katie Belle's to see Rocky & the Rollers. Got about the last parking space.

Kind of hard to exit - you are right, some rude people, 2 of them about had a face-off, both seeming to refuse to yield - people exiting both ways and cars parked parallel along the curb behind the golf cart parking made for a narrow area, really only room for one cart at a time.

Possibly those folks had a few pre-sunset cold ones and it made them ornery.

billethkid
03-14-2011, 09:54 AM
the right thing in with the rude/nasty/boneheads. There is always going to be those who act as though rules are for the other people and not for them.

btk

bluedog103
03-14-2011, 10:20 AM
This is not the friendliest town in Florida. But then I guss you have people like that every where. First come first serve I dont think that applies in this case.

I had a visitor comment on that recently. After witnessing a few acts of outright rudeness and selfishness, she asked me how TV got the name of "Florida's Friendliest Hometown".
I told her that in my opinion it was a marketing gimmick. Folks are folks. You have some good'uns and some stinkers wherever you go. It's just that sometimes TV seems to have more than its share of stinkers. Other times I'm amazed at how friendly and helpful people are. Just how you hit it, I guess.

Xavier
03-14-2011, 12:59 PM
I had a visitor comment on that recently. After witnessing a few acts of outright rudeness and selfishness, she asked me how TV got the name of "Florida's Friendliest Hometown".
I told her that in my opinion it was a marketing gimmick. Folks are folks. You have some good'uns and some stinkers wherever you go. It's just that sometimes TV seems to have more than its share of stinkers. Other times I'm amazed at how friendly and helpful people are. Just how you hit it, I guess.

It's called a Sense of Entitlement. It starts at the top and works it's way down! It goes along with the culture of the rich getting the breaks and the benefits of their governmental leanings.

I R not one!

Xavier

graciegirl
03-14-2011, 01:07 PM
It's called a Sense of Entitlement. It starts at the top and works it's way down! It goes along with the culture of the rich getting the breaks and the benefits of their governmental leanings.

I R not one!

Xavier

Xavier. We never disagree but I have to disagree on this one. It doesn't have anything to do with having money or not having money. It has a lot to do with not caring about others. And doing unto others and all that stuff.

I R not one either. (Rich) Unless you are counting Sweetie and Helene.

DaleMN
03-14-2011, 01:47 PM
No scientific basis but I have a feeling there is a correlation between money and egocentricity and the rudeness and lack of caring that goes along with that. Of course there are exceptions to every rule as we well know.

Tbugs
03-14-2011, 01:48 PM
If the spaces being "saved" were the only ones available, I would have politely asked them to move aside as I backed my cart into one of the spaces. If there were other available spaces, I would have just used one of those. You also could park your cart directly in front of the one saving spaces, get out your lawn chair, and set it in the grassy area. That cart would then just have to wait until you leave after the sun has set. Just do everything with a smile and it will be fine. Or a big smile and say "No comprehendo Ingles". Actually, there is a lot of grassy area to park your cart on for a great view of sunsets which is the best idea to do if all spaces are taken or "reserved".

I have seen several chairs being looped together with rope for popular venues like Rocky & Rollers at Lake Sumter. Usually, the people get there on time and there is no problem. However, if it is a capacity crowd, and no one has taken the chairs during the first number or two, most of the time someone will untie them and take some of the "saved seats". I have seen no big arguements about that happening from anyone.

graciegirl
03-14-2011, 01:50 PM
If the spaces being "saved" were the only ones available, I would have politely asked them to move aside as I backed my cart into one of the spaces. If there were other available spaces, I would have just used one of those. You also could park your cart directly in front of the one saving spaces, get out your lawn chair, and set it in the grassy area. That cart would then just have to wait until you leave after the sun has set. Just do everything with a smile and it will be fine. Or a big smile and say "No comprehendo Ingles".

I have seen several chairs being looped together with rope for popular venues like Rocky & Rollers at Lake Sumter. Usually, the people get there on time and there is no problem. However, if it is a capacity crowd, and no one has taken the chairs during the first number or two, most of the time someone will untie them and take some of the "saved seats". I have seen no big arguements about that happening from anyone.

This works best if you are 6'9" weigh 250-300 lbs. and have a sweatshirt that says..............................

Fill in the blank.

RichieLion
03-14-2011, 01:56 PM
My wife and I went over to the bridge last night to watch the sun set first time in 6 years and I am amazed the rudness of villages people. Lady was setting in an open parking place in a lawn chair saving a space for someone. Then someone else had 4 spaces blocked. Not the first time I have seen this but I can see it at a restaurant but not on public streets. This is not the friendliest town in Florida. But then I guss you have people like that every where. First come first serve I dont think that applies in this case.

These are the same people who on a cruise will leave items on deck chairs by the pool all day so they can come back to them in between visits to the buffet or their room or who knows where. Heck with anyone else who like to spend a few minutes in the sun or shade by the pool. You see boorish selfish people everywhere.

Xavier
03-14-2011, 01:57 PM
Xavier. We never disagree but I have to disagree on this one. It doesn't have anything to do with having money or not having money. It has a lot to do with not caring about others. And doing unto others and all that stuff.

I R not one either. (Rich) Unless you are counting Sweetie and Helene.

It is Sweetie and Helene who are rich just having you. Well, I guess we'll all rich in that sense. I guess I probably was using an awfully broad brush. I'll take a ruler across my knuckles. Ouch, that hurts!

Xavier

Bill-n-Brillo
03-14-2011, 01:58 PM
This works best if you are 6'9" weigh 250-300 lbs. and have a sweatshirt that says..............................

Fill in the blank.

..........and have a sweatshirt that says, "I know graciegirl, pturner, and redwitch - don't MAKE me call them!" :wave:

Bill

memason
03-14-2011, 02:05 PM
..........and have a sweatshirt that says, "I know graciegirl, pturner, and redwitch - don't MAKE me call them!" :wave:

Bill

Good one...... :thumbup:

kandj
03-14-2011, 11:43 PM
Xavier. We never disagree but I have to disagree on this one. It doesn't have anything to do with having money or not having money. It has a lot to do with not caring about others. And doing unto others and all that stuff.

I R not one either. (Rich) Unless you are counting Sweetie and Helene.

:agree: What GG said!

These are the folks that think "the rules don't apply to me" AKA - ENTITLED. Many of these folks just THINK they are better than the rest of the COMMON folk.

These are the same folks that see a line of cars at an off-ramp and think that they don't have to get in line and that they can just "jump in" ahead of everyone that has been patiently waiting in line. Hubby and I see it all the time up here during "weekender traffic" as we commute from MA to NH. I can tell you that most are not the normal daily commuters for work up here. I can't wait until we can call TV "home"!

ilovetv
03-15-2011, 11:35 AM
We're from the midwest and have lived in 5 other states besides where we grew up. In the other states, we have always lived in suburbs of medium-large metro areas. In some places, especially in New England, many people were extremely rude and uppity toward "outsiders" they think were born in a log cabin without plumbing, while in other states (midwestern), most people were so friendly that it amazed us the whole time.....instantly treated us as if they had known us forever. Personal wealth or not had little to do with it.

People bring that with them to TV and thank goodness, most people we've met are genuinely "hometown friendly". And I think many people who came from ruder societies have learned here how to be more open and friendly.

Army Guy
03-15-2011, 12:05 PM
ok, now first off, don't shoot the messanger!!! But here is what I have been told and seen by ACTUAL people. I have found the rudeness goes up when the snow birds come down. I was told by one snowbird, that they should have priority on everything in TV since they are only here part of the year but still have to pay for the whole year as if fulltimers!!

Army Guy

champion6
03-15-2011, 12:10 PM
I was told by one snowbird, that they should have priority on everything in TV since they are only here part of the year but still have to pay for the whole year as if fulltimers!!Good Lord! Can you imagine living next that freaking idiot up north for the rest of the year? What an attitude!

texasfal
03-15-2011, 12:54 PM
I was told by a vacationer from Michigan who was here for Feb, March & April that he didn't have to rake sand traps or fix ballmarks because he's just renting and he paid for that privilege. What can you say to that kind of stupidity?

jebartle
03-15-2011, 12:57 PM
Don't you think this happens more in the snowbird season?


Xavier. We never disagree but I have to disagree on this one. It doesn't have anything to do with having money or not having money. It has a lot to do with not caring about others. And doing unto others and all that stuff.

I R not one either. (Rich) Unless you are counting Sweetie and Helene.

Army Guy
03-15-2011, 01:19 PM
Don't you think this happens more in the snowbird season?

Although I really do not want to I have to totally agree......
TV has a totally different feel once they head back North.

Army Guy

Army Guy
03-15-2011, 01:20 PM
Good Lord! Can you imagine living next that freaking idiot up north for the rest of the year? What an attitude!

Many have that feeling though.


Army Guy

EdV
03-15-2011, 01:34 PM
Jeesh, I thought the Civil War ended a hundred and fifty years ago. :read:

ajbrown
03-15-2011, 01:42 PM
I was told by a vacationer from Michigan who was here for Feb, March & April that he didn't have to rake sand traps or fix ballmarks because he's just renting and he paid for that privilege. What can you say to that kind of stupidity?

I can honestly say I have never met any person, anywhere that has said anything this arrogant within my earshot. My reaction would have been to laugh out loud. After realizing they were serious, I would fix every ball mark, rake every trap for them for the rest of the day always blurting out "I GOT THAT" before I did.

After the round I would make sure the pro shop knew of him.....

Carla B
03-15-2011, 01:51 PM
ok, now first off, don't shoot the messanger!!! But here is what I have been told and seen by ACTUAL people. I have found the rudeness goes up when the snow birds come down. I was told by one snowbird, that they should have priority on everything in TV since they are only here part of the year but still have to pay for the whole year as if fulltimers!!

Army Guy

Well then, it stands to reason when they go back north they must have priority on everything there, since they pay fees as if they were there the whole year too.:cry:

DaleMN
03-15-2011, 02:49 PM
Beginning to seriously wonder if Villages is more hype than substance.

Bill-n-Brillo
03-15-2011, 02:50 PM
Beginning to seriously wonder if Villages is more hype than substance.

? Why's that? Just curious.

Bill

paulandjean
03-15-2011, 02:55 PM
Do not get to carried-away. Remember most of the villages are from "up- north" I do not have a problem in these winter months, never had. Seems someone just start a rumor.

Bogie Shooter
03-15-2011, 03:42 PM
Beginning to seriously wonder if Villages is more hype than substance.
Maybe you should come see for yourself!

graciegirl
03-15-2011, 03:46 PM
I can honestly say I have never met any person, anywhere that has said anything this arrogant within my earshot. My reaction would have been to laugh out loud. After realizing they were serious, I would fix every ball mark, rake every trap for them for the rest of the day always blurting out "I GOT THAT" before I did.

After the round I would make sure the pro shop knew of him.....

Now I like that way to channel anger. Wonder if they would "get" it.

I have thought about having a card printed saying something like...

Most people are so annoyed and so angered when they see someone saving places. Most people are too polite or too timid to say anything. I am one of those people. Please consider the fact that hardly anyone likes what you are doing and are too kind or too afraid to say something..

signed. One of the silent majority...

And I have never run into that at the sunset place on the bridge. If I did, I would summon the girls...

And........I don't think you need worry about this place being hype. Have you been here? If not please come and see.

bluedog103
03-15-2011, 04:04 PM
Although I really do not want to I have to totally agree......
TV has a totally different feel once they head back North.

Army Guy
Uhhh, Army Guy, aren't you still a snowbird?

DaleMN
03-15-2011, 04:06 PM
Maybe you should come see for yourself!

We have...three years running now...and, overall, have loved it...but behaviors we've witnessed while there and things we've read here causes some concern. Of course, that probably would be the case anywhere. People just don't care enough about others.

bluedog103
03-15-2011, 04:15 PM
In some places, especially in New England, many people were extremely rude and uppity toward "outsiders" they think were born in a log cabin without plumbing

Yup, you gotta watch out for those New Englanders, especially the Red Sox and Patriot fans. You just can't be too careful!

brostholder
03-15-2011, 04:18 PM
Beginning to seriously wonder if Villages is more hype than substance.
This is Florida's friendliest home town, and I will tell you why. It is not because of the signs that proclaim it's friendliness. It's not because people are different down here. It is because lots of people like you and me make the extra effort every day. The only thing that makes this place special and the only thing that will keep this place special is the kindness we show to each other. I think it important to remember that even when faced with rude, pushy people. It is more difficult to take the high road, but in the end it is much more rewarding.

graciegirl
03-15-2011, 04:45 PM
This is Florida's friendliest home town, and I will tell you why. It is not because of the signs that proclaim it's friendliness. It's not because people are different down here. It is because lots of people like you and me make the extra effort every day. The only thing that makes this place special and the only thing that will keep this place special is the kindness we show to each other. I think it important to remember that even when faced with rude, pushy people. It is more difficult to take the high road, but in the end it is much more rewarding.

Brostholder....what you said is so right and so nice.

golf2140
03-15-2011, 05:08 PM
This is Florida's friendliest home town, and I will tell you why. It is not because of the signs that proclaim it's friendliness. It's not because people are different down here. It is because lots of people like you and me make the extra effort every day. The only thing that makes this place special and the only thing that will keep this place special is the kindness we show to each other. I think it important to remember that even when faced with rude, pushy people. It is more difficult to take the high road, but in the end it is much more rewarding.

:BigApplause:

bargee
03-15-2011, 07:16 PM
As a"seasonal resident" of 11 years please accept my profound regrets for clogging up "your"golf courses and" your"restaurants and"your"roads.My heart goes out to the"fulltimers"who are so severely incovenienced by our appearance every year.Perhaps you could prevail on the developer to build a separate area where you could segregate us.To the people who make an effort to befriend us thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Pturner
03-15-2011, 07:56 PM
I was told by one snowbird, that they should have priority on everything in TV since they are only here part of the year but still have to pay for the whole year as if fulltimers!!
Army Guy

That snowbird was mistaken. He/she does not have to pay for the whole year. He/she chose to buy here and snowbird. The rules still apply.

I was told by a vacationer from Michigan who was here for Feb, March & April that he didn't have to rake sand traps or fix ballmarks because he's just renting and he paid for that privilege. What can you say to that kind of stupidity?

Whereas owners do not pay for the privilege? Congrats! You've met Mishugina from Michigan.

Now I like that way to channel anger. Wonder if they would "get" it.

I have thought about having a card printed saying something like...

Most people are so annoyed and so angered when they see someone saving places. Most people are too polite or too timid to say anything. I am one of those people. Please consider the fact that hardly anyone likes what you are doing and are too kind or too afraid to say something..

signed. One of the silent majority...

And I have never run into that at the sunset place on the bridge. If I did, I would summon the girls...

And........I don't think you need worry about this place being hype. Have you been here? If not please come and see.

If the card doesn't work, I'll answer the summons. :D

This is Florida's friendliest home town, and I will tell you why. It is not because of the signs that proclaim it's friendliness. It's not because people are different down here. It is because lots of people like you and me make the extra effort every day. The only thing that makes this place special and the only thing that will keep this place special is the kindness we show to each other. I think it important to remember that even when faced with rude, pushy people. It is more difficult to take the high road, but in the end it is much more rewarding.

You are so right and I'm glad you said this. Rudeness is contagious-- and so is going out of your way to be kind and considerate. If we want to remain Florida's friendliest hometown, each of us needs to be on our most pro-actively friendly behavior. It catches on!

We all need to be more like Gracie!

dillywho
03-15-2011, 08:32 PM
I really don't think it makes any difference where someone is here from....North, South, East, or West. I don't know of anyone (might be tho) who was born in TV so that makes all of us from elsewhere by my reckoning. You have idiots from all areas and all walks of life anywhere. All I know is that they have got to be some mighty miserable folks. What a waste.

Besides, as ole Ron White says, "You just can't fix stupid!". :icon_wink:

JeffBorn
03-15-2011, 08:46 PM
As a soon to be Full time resident of TV in 30 days and current resident of Orlando for the past twenty years. I at times have been so exasperated with the lack of consideration on the roads in Orlando. I gave serious consideration to creating a bumper sticker that procalimed "Thank you in advance for being courteous". I'm not the bumper sticker type but thought it might cause people to pause.

skyguy79
03-15-2011, 08:49 PM
I really don't think it makes any difference where someone is here from....North, South, East, or West. I don't know of anyone (might be tho) who was born in TV so that makes all of us from elsewhere by my reckoning. You have idiots from all areas and all walks of life anywhere. All I know is that they have got to be some mighty miserable folks. What a waste.

Besides, as ole Ron White says, "You just can't fix stupid!". :icon_wink:You know what they say... "You can fix anything with duct tape!" Just use your imagination a little! :D

K9-Lovers
03-16-2011, 12:00 AM
You know what they say... "You can fix anything with duct tape!" Just use your imagination a little! :D

Sounds like you need to see the Red Green Duct Tape Hall of Fame.

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/red-green-duct-tape-hall-of-fame/1e42c353e9b8c4be8c6d1e42c353e9b8c4be8c6d-545471661494?q=red+green+duct+tape&FROM=LKVR5&GT1=LKVR5&FORM=LKVR4

Barefoot
03-16-2011, 12:14 AM
This is Florida's friendliest home town, and I will tell you why. It is because lots of people like you and me make the extra effort every day. The only thing that makes this place special and the only thing that will keep this place special is the kindness we show to each other. I think it important to remember that even when faced with rude, pushy people. It is more difficult to take the high road, but in the end it is much more rewarding.

brostholder, my sentiments exactly. If we all take the high road, this truly will become Paradise! :thumbup:

Army Guy
03-16-2011, 09:26 AM
Uhhh, Army Guy, aren't you still a snowbird?

I don't know if you would consider me that, we are in TV about 10-15 days a month, and will start fulltime 1 July this year, as I retire 4 June. Start terminal leave 7 April, so will also be down more then the 10-15 days a month. Matter of fact heading down to TV for St Pats in a few hours!
We don't get much snow in Alabama! :smiley: Just every once in awhile. And in the warmer months actually, TV is cooler then Alabama!

Army Guy

bluedog103
03-16-2011, 11:51 AM
I don't know if you would consider me that, we are in TV about 10-15 days a month, and will start fulltime 1 July this year, as I retire 4 June. Start terminal leave 7 April, so will also be down more then the 10-15 days a month. Matter of fact heading down to TV for St Pats in a few hours!
We don't get much snow in Alabama! :smiley: Just every once in awhile. And in the warmer months actually, TV is cooler then Alabama!

Army Guy

Just ribbing you a little Army Guy. I grew up in Alabama near Ft. Rucker. Two kinds of people we didn't like.1) Yankees and 2)Army guys. Army guys from the north were especially disliked.
Later on I became both. Go figure.
Believe it or not it's often hotter in New York during the summer than in TV. The humidity is usually much lower though. Same for Alabama. I have a lot of family in Florida, a little ways south of TV. As a kid I hated it when my parents made me go visiting during the summer. The heat was pretty similar but the humidity was much worse. Then in the afternoon often it would rain and cool things down some. I couldn't wait to get back north to Alabama. That was in the days before everything was air conditioned.

Army Guy
03-16-2011, 12:15 PM
Just ribbing you a little Army Guy. I grew up in Alabama near Ft. Rucker. Two kinds of people we didn't like.1) Yankees and 2)Army guys. Army guys from the north were especially disliked.
Later on I became both. Go figure.
Believe it or not it's often hotter in New York during the summer than in TV. The humidity is usually much lower though. Same for Alabama. I have a lot of family in Florida, a little ways south of TV. As a kid I hated it when my parents made me go visiting during the summer. The heat was pretty similar but the humidity was much worse. Then in the afternoon often it would rain and cool things down some. I couldn't wait to get back north to Alabama. That was in the days before everything was air conditioned.

Yes, I knew you where! Funny you bring up about the two kinds. That is exactly what my wife was told by her parents and look who she married, as I am both! But we are still strong going on 25 years.
Shoot the rain in the summer makes the humidity go through the roof!

Army Guy

John_W
03-16-2011, 04:22 PM
... I grew up in Alabama near Ft. Rucker...

...Believe it or not it's often hotter in New York during the summer than in TV...

I was stationed at Ft. Rucker in 1970 on tank hill, went to ATC school from July to November. What I mostly remember was going to PC every weekend, I think the whole beach was maybe 15 or 20 blocks back then. I never got back to Ft. Rucker, but I did live in Pensacola for six years and became real familiar with the panhandle.

I didn't get out in the local Ft. Rucker area too much, except once a carload of us went to an Enterprise drive-in to see a non-stop night of Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns. Also, remember going to a Dothan theater to see "Woodstock".

I grew up in St. Petersburg in the 1960's and 70's and never remember seeing the temps go above 95 degrees, here in Baltimore we'll top a 100 degrees every summer a few times.