Mallory CC dinner tonight: AWFUL!!

[GreekOstrich]

Took guests to Mallory tonight, hoping for an enjoyable dinner. The hostess was rude, the wait was LONG!!, the food was AWFUL (one dinner was so-so, two were awful, and the other was inedible and had to be returned)......and we were humiliated in front of our guests. My husband is now eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to make up for the poor meal. What does it take to get a good meal in The Villages other than cooking at home????

[golfnut]

that's terrible, have to ask the obvious question, what did the Manager say when you complained....gn

[Tweety Bird]

Took guests to Mallory tonight, hoping for an enjoyable dinner. The hostess was rude, the wait was LONG!!, the food was AWFUL (one dinner was so-so, two were awful, and the other was inedible and had to be returned)......and we were humiliated in front of our guests. My husband is now eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to make up for the poor meal. What does it take to get a good meal in The Villages other than cooking at home????

What does it take to get a good meal in the Villages????? Am I reading this right? You go to ONE place and you are asking about the ENTIRE VILLAGES????? We ate at Mallory this evening and I saw the food coming out to other people as well as what we ordered and nothing seemed as you described.... "AWFUL". If I were you, I'd directly go to the manager and deal with your experience. If your food was that awful...show them your plate and get another meal. No one would humilate you unless they felt attacked. Did you attack them verbally or with hostile attitude? Strange.

[chuckinca]

See my reply to the thread on Tierra Del Sol restaurant.


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[Chi-Town]

When you think of country club dining you think of exclusive service and food. Mallory Hill, Tierra Del Sol, etc. is golf club dining. Totally different animal. Golf club dining is more informal, lower in price, and the level of service is up to interpretation. Also the food can be inconsistent but very good at times. I've had really good and really bad meals at Palmer's, mediocre at Mallory, and it's a crap shoot at Havana. Glenview, Cane Garden and Nancy Lopez (especially Lopez) can approach a country club experience. But the reality is that unless we want to join a club that has an initiation amount, yearly membership fees, and monthly minimums, we should be happy but selective about the choices we have in The Villages' clubs.

[korman45]

I took visiting family to Mallory for dinner tonight and our food was excellent, service was also good.

[missypie]

What does it take to get a good meal in the Villages????? Am I reading this right? You go to ONE place and you are asking about the ENTIRE VILLAGES????? We ate at Mallory this evening and I saw the food coming out to other people as well as what we ordered and nothing seemed as you described.... "AWFUL". If I were you, I'd directly go to the manager and deal with your experience. If your food was that awful...show them your plate and get another meal. No one would humilate you unless they felt attacked. Did you attack them verbally or with hostile attitude? Strange.

What did you have for dinner?

[missypie]

Took guests to Mallory tonight, hoping for an enjoyable dinner. The hostess was rude, the wait was LONG!!, the food was AWFUL (one dinner was so-so, two were awful, and the other was inedible and had to be returned)......and we were humiliated in front of our guests. My husband is now eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to make up for the poor meal. What does it take to get a good meal in The Villages other than cooking at home????

What did you order? I also would have asked for the manager. Never would I use my daily calorie intake for an awful meal. How were you humiliated? Thank you for sharing.

[joannej]

I went to Mallory this past Monday for a group luncheon. I ordered a chef salad. Very disappointed with the meal. A couple of pieces of thin cut-up lunch meat were put in the salad, one-half egg, no shredded carrots, bacon that looked like it was put through a grinder, three sliced tomatoes, 3 pieces of cucumber, and shredded cheese finished it off. I have always been disappointed with the food and service here. And it's happened at this CC, and not the others. I would never take guests there for a meal.

[Chief X]

I laugh every time i see threads like this. Maybe I don't get it though, so it's probably me. Last Friday I stopped at a restaurant in Sumpter Landing and asked to be seated outside. I was the only patron outside, maybe because it was mid-afternoon and 85 degrees. Regardless, I was forgotten out there. 25 minutes later when the hostess brought another couple out to seat them, I asked if I could be waited on. She apologized and took my order. When my drink was served, it was the wrong drink. It was practically an hour before I had my food and the right drink in front of me. I laughed to myself about it and when I left, I paid my bill, said thanks and left my typical 20% tip. Will I go back? Certainly. People make mistakes. Should we expect more when we are paying for a service? Sure, but things happen now and then.
I see many posts on here about the horrible this, the horrible that, bad drivers, bad food, helicopters flying too low. You know what? I love it here and will spend the rest of my days here.
The best part about my comment here is that I'm a rude New Yorker, go figure.

[chuckinca]

Sounds like you should have talked to the Mgr.

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[ilovetv]

I like your attitude and it's always fun to see NYers relax and mellow out in TV.

Was reading the Villages Gourmet Club website last night ( http://thevillagesgourmetclub.home.comcast.net/~thevillagesgourmetclub/ ) and I marvelled again that we have so many excellent and affordable restaurants in and around TV. There are 73 listed as "in" TV, and 195 listed as "near" TV. What more could we ask for???? If food and service stinks at one place, go to a different restaurant, and give them a chance to improve after you clearly tell them your problem.

As a former server, I can tell you the problem is usually NOT with the server who takes all the flak directly from the customers--regardless of who caused the problem. Usually such problems are due to surly kitchen workers, or an incompetent manager who has under-staffed on a busy shift, or employees calling off "sick", etc.....or all of the above.

While some of it can be a server's fault, do not punish them with a poor tip or no tip. They make a minimum wage of $4.23/hour and depend on tips to feed and clothe their kids or pay for college. If a server is obviously doing a bad job or is sloppy/unkempt, I do leave a reduced tip.

Whenever I go to a C.C. to dine in the evening, I always think the workers have an unusually hard job there, with so many big tables and so much noise that it's difficult to hear patrons, etc.

[allairenjadea]

We had a similar experiance last year, i can relate, you dont want to complain to managment for every bad meal but want to know what others think.

[graciegirl]

Took guests to Mallory tonight, hoping for an enjoyable dinner. The hostess was rude, the wait was LONG!!, the food was AWFUL (one dinner was so-so, two were awful, and the other was inedible and had to be returned)......and we were humiliated in front of our guests. My husband is now eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to make up for the poor meal. What does it take to get a good meal in The Villages other than cooking at home????

I am sorry to hear this. So we can better understand, please tell us what the waitress said that was rude and what was awful about the two meals.

No need for you to feel humiliated in front of your guests unless you cooked it, unless they think that you have no taste in restaurants.(Bet they know better than that.)

Had you been there before? Sometimes the best cooks are ....taking their kids on Spring break??? It all rests on WHO is manning the fry pots back there, and I am beginning to think that good cooks aren't as available as they used to be and that includes in peoples homes too.

Please just tell us what was bad and what the waitress said and more details.

This could be cause to call out the girls.

I read some of your past posts and it seems that you have rented since January and will return home the end of March. Overall, how do you like it here?

Kindest wishes,
Gracie

[golf2140]

Always give a restaurant a second or third try. You would be surprised..:police:

[hedoman]

Working at a private cc up in PA I've seen the members have some "less than ideal dinning experiences". I chat it up with the kitchen folks daily and even I have been "forgotten" when they were supposed to make my lunch. There are many reasons and people to blame but , from what I have observed, it typically revolves around a sudden avalanche of patrons. Has anyone had a bad experience when the restaraunt is empty? We have not had a bad experiemce yet but expect one depending on the number of times we eat out. Odds are........

Now if it happens 2 or 3 times in a row I'd be suspect of the establishment....

[l2ridehd]

There is a very easy to understand problem here. If I took a poll of 1000 Villagers on CC food quality, I would have a fairly consistent pattern. Lopez, Palmer and Cane Garden would be at the top, Glenview close, OB and Hacienda in the middle and Tierra, Mallory and Havana at the bottom. Order might vary by one position or so but it would be close. They all have the same buildings and kitchens and parking lots. They all hire their staff from the same pool of talent and they all have the same customer base. There is only one difference of any significance. Now I have been accused of being in an ivory tower, even snarky for saying this, but that is just the lack of knowledge of those people. Management is the only difference. If I shifted those managers right by 4 places, within 90 days the pattern would follow the management.

Follow Warren Buffett. He only buys companies with solid management that have a proven track record. Now yes, that leads to good earnings history, low debt to equity, and solid value, but it is because of the management. Follow the successful mutual funds and it always because of the management. Listen to Adam Bold or Ric Edelman and there whole sales pitch is the mutual fund manager.

Can good managers fail? Sure. Usually as a result of an outside force. War, earthquake, flood, fire, or some event outside their control. 100% of all problems in any business are owned by the management of that business. Good managers solve those problems and deliver results. I don't care what the business is the rule is the same.

The good places to eat have good management. The bad ones ...........

[graciegirl]

There is a very easy to understand problem here. If I took a poll of 1000 Villagers on CC food quality, I would have a fairly consistent pattern. Lopez, Palmer and Cane Garden would be at the top, Glenview close, OB and Hacienda in the middle and Tierra, Mallory and Havana at the bottom. Order might vary by one position or so but it would be close. They all have the same buildings and kitchens and parking lots. They all hire their staff from the same pool of talent and they all have the same customer base. There is only one difference of any significance. Now I have been accused of being in an ivory tower, even snarky for saying this, but that is just the lack of knowledge of those people. Management is the only difference. If I shifted those managers right by 4 places, within 90 days the pattern would follow the management.

Follow Warren Buffett. He only buys companies with solid management that have a proven track record. Now yes, that leads to good earnings history, low debt to equity, and solid value, but it is because of the management. Follow the successful mutual funds and it always because of the management. Listen to Adam Bold or Ric Edelman and there whole sales pitch is the mutual fund manager.

Can good managers fail? Sure. Usually as a result of an outside force. War, earthquake, flood, fire, or some event outside their control. 100% of all problems in any business are owned by the management of that business. Good managers solve those problems and deliver results. I don't care what the business is the rule is the same.

The good places to eat have good management. The bad ones ...........

:BigApplause:

:thumbup:

:highfive:

Oh where is the hugging icon? You are so right....as usual. GREAT words, all put together so right!!

Oh and I so agree.

[mdubrey44]

good for you chief, we need more attitudes like that.:BigApplause:

[bigalibaba]

There is a very easy to understand problem here. If I took a poll of 1000 Villagers on CC food quality, I would have a fairly consistent pattern. Lopez, Palmer and Cane Garden would be at the top, Glenview close, OB and Hacienda in the middle and Tierra, Mallory and Havana at the bottom. Order might vary by one position or so but it would be close. They all have the same buildings and kitchens and parking lots. They all hire their staff from the same pool of talent and they all have the same customer base. There is only one difference of any significance. Now I have been accused of being in an ivory tower, even snarky for saying this, but that is just the lack of knowledge of those people. Management is the only difference. If I shifted those managers right by 4 places, within 90 days the pattern would follow the management.

Follow Warren Buffett. He only buys companies with solid management that have a proven track record. Now yes, that leads to good earnings history, low debt to equity, and solid value, but it is because of the management. Follow the successful mutual funds and it always because of the management. Listen to Adam Bold or Ric Edelman and there whole sales pitch is the mutual fund manager.

Can good managers fail? Sure. Usually as a result of an outside force. War, earthquake, flood, fire, or some event outside their control. 100% of all problems in any business are owned by the management of that business. Good managers solve those problems and deliver results. I don't care what the business is the rule is the same.

The good places to eat have good management. The bad ones ...........

A very interesting perspective. By the way, how do you explain the fact that Glenview (One of your Good choices) and Mallory (One of your stinko places) are both run by the same person, Randy Perkins.

Actually I think both of these are mediocre at best. Common to both, and Cane Garde, is their very poor treatment of Golf Groups of 12 - 20 players, none of whom they allow to sit down until all are present. They think it's OK to make Group #1 wait 30-40 minutes until the group on the 14th green finishes # 18. When I finish my round I want to sit down, have a drink and order a meal. I don't want to be bullied by an arrogant Manager of Hostess who have no conception that golfers don't want to wait until the last group finishes to be seated.

[schotzyb]

A very interesting perspective. By the way, how do you explain the fact that Glenview (One of your Good choices) and Mallory (One of your stinko places) are both run by the same person, Randy Perkins.

Actually I think both of these are mediocre at best. Common to both, and Cane Garde, is their very poor treatment of Golf Groups of 12 - 20 players, none of whom they allow to sit down until all are present. They think it's OK to make Group #1 wait 30-40 minutes until the group on the 14th green finishes # 18. When I finish my round I want to sit down, have a drink and order a meal. I don't want to be bullied by an arrogant Manager of Hostess who have no conception that golfers don't want to wait until the last group finishes to be seated.

This very same thing happens to our Friday group everytime we play Glenview. We still play Glenview but afterwards our group meets at Beef O' Brady's for lunch. Rediculous to make 4 people wait for the next 3 foursomes.

[GreekOstrich]

I am sorry to hear this. So we can better understand, please tell us what the waitress said that was rude and what was awful about the two meals.

No need for you to feel humiliated in front of your guests unless you cooked it, unless they think that you have no taste in restaurants.(Bet they know better than that.)

Had you been there before? Sometimes the best cooks are ....taking their kids on Spring break??? It all rests on WHO is manning the fry pots back there, and I am beginning to think that good cooks aren't as available as they used to be and that includes in peoples homes too.

Please just tell us what was bad and what the waitress said and more details.

This could be cause to call out the girls.

I read some of your past posts and it seems that you have rented since January and will return home the end of March. Overall, how do you like it here?

Kindest wishes,
Gracie

Let me clarify a few things to all of you that have posted comments. I DO love just about everything in The Villages, own a home, have been down here for 3 years, and have tried just about every restaurant around (including all of the country clubs). We even ate at Mallory twice in the last couple of months, so it is not like that was the first time there.
My deductions from our experience last night:
- Their "special" dinners leave a little bit to be desired........guess, that's why they are priced lower.......For example, a previous taco dinner, on a Tuesday night.......meat was dry, toppings (lettuce, tomato,etc.) were skimpy. Last night was the BBQ special......ribs (ok), pulled pork (dry), cole slaw (served in a plastic cup), and cobbler (the equivalent of one tablespoon in a plastic cup).

- The server/waitress.........she was great. Not her fault that the food took 45 minutes to arrive after we ordered.

- The manager...... a different story. Sorry, but I don't think her rolling her eyes was appropriate behavior. We were not rude, my father worked in the restaurant business all his life, and we understand the trials of running a restaurant. No excuse to make customers feel uncomfortable.

- My husband ordered salmon which was tremendously overcooked. He returned the meal, and did not request another because he did not want to inconvenience everyone else in our party.

- We like to eat out, and understand the pros and cons to what we have in The Villages. For just the two of us.......a poor night at an establishment.......no problem. Now, in terms of taking visiting friends out.......maybe we'll stick to cookouts........;P

[Tweety Bird]

Let me clarify a few things to all of you that have posted comments. I DO love just about everything in The Villages, own a home, have been down here for 3 years, and have tried just about every restaurant around (including all of the country clubs). We even ate at Mallory twice in the last couple of months, so it is not like that was the first time there.
My deductions from our experience last night:
- Their "special" dinners leave a little bit to be desired........guess, that's why they are priced lower.......For example, a previous taco dinner, on a Tuesday night.......meat was dry, toppings (lettuce, tomato,etc.) were skimpy. Last night was the BBQ special......ribs (ok), pulled pork (dry), cole slaw (served in a plastic cup), and cobbler (the equivalent of one tablespoon in a plastic cup).

- The server/waitress.........she was great. Not her fault that the food took 45 minutes to arrive after we ordered.

- The manager...... a different story. Sorry, but I don't think her rolling her eyes was appropriate behavior. We were not rude, my father worked in the restaurant business all his life, and we understand the trials of running a restaurant. No excuse to make customers feel uncomfortable.

- My husband ordered salmon which was tremendously overcooked. He returned the meal, and did not request another because he did not want to inconvenience everyone else in our party.

- We like to eat out, and understand the pros and cons to what we have in The Villages. For just the two of us.......a poor night at an establishment.......no problem. Now, in terms of taking visiting friends out.......maybe we'll stick to cookouts........;P

This defininitely clarifies your experience. Yes...it probably embarrassed you while you were at Mallory. Sorry this happened. No ...mgr. should NOT roll her eyes. That's disgusting!

[Russ_Boston]

A very interesting perspective. By the way, how do you explain the fact that Glenview (One of your Good choices) and Mallory (One of your stinko places) are both run by the same person, Randy Perkins.

I would think floor manager would be more appropriate in this case not General Mgr. If he's running both he certainly can't do it at the same time.


But I think Glenview and Mallory are close in the middle not very far from each other, IMHO.

[katezbox]

A very interesting perspective. By the way, how do you explain the fact that Glenview (One of your Good choices) and Mallory (One of your stinko places) are both run by the same person, Randy Perkins.

Actually I think both of these are mediocre at best. Common to both, and Cane Garde, is their very poor treatment of Golf Groups of 12 - 20 players, none of whom they allow to sit down until all are present. They think it's OK to make Group #1 wait 30-40 minutes until the group on the 14th green finishes # 18. When I finish my round I want to sit down, have a drink and order a meal. I don't want to be bullied by an arrogant Manager of Hostess who have no conception that golfers don't want to wait until the last group finishes to be seated.

Big Al,

I hear you on this - but think of it from their perspective. If they have set aside tables for another 12 people after the first 8 arrive, they have vacant tables at what could be a busy time of day. Also, think of the other folks wanting lunch and seeing 8 people taking up more than double their space.


This is one think that I think Havana has been good at. If you have a large group, they will seat you the first back and take your order. As the others arrive they also order. Sometimes they can't keep the whole group together, but they do try.


To your point though, they are a restaurant at a GOLF club - they need to be more flexible in this I think. Creative ideas, anyone?

[bimmertl]

Why do 12-20 people have to "sit together" and all eat and drink together at the same time? You can only converse with a few people near by. I have been out with 10 people and you can't converse with a couple of them in any seating arrangement. So what if you have multiple different seatings and multiple smaller groups.

If I finish golfing I'm not going to wait 30-40 minutes for the last group, who I will barely be able to see let alone talk to, before I order food and drinks.

Get over the group simultaneous eating and drinking fest and use some common sense!

[schotzyb]

Why do 12-20 people have to "sit together" and all eat and drink together at the same time? You can only converse with a few people near by. I have been out with 10 people and you can't converse with a couple of them in any seating arrangement. So what if you have multiple different seatings and multiple smaller groups.

If I finish golfing I'm not going to wait 30-40 minutes for the last group, who I will barely be able to see let alone talk to, before I order food and drinks.

Get over the group simultaneous eating and drinking fest and use some common sense!


Can't speak for other golfing groups but we use this time to "settle up" on the game winnings and to gather info for the following week's game; etc; who will put the request in, who will make the game up and who will be in what group. More a matter of convienance than anything else.

[Barefoot]

I laugh every time i see threads like this. Maybe I don't get it though, so it's probably me. Last Friday I stopped at a restaurant in Sumpter Landing and asked to be seated outside. I was the only patron outside, maybe because it was mid-afternoon and 85 degrees. Regardless, I was forgotten out there. 25 minutes later when the hostess brought another couple out to seat them, I asked if I could be waited on. She apologized and took my order. When my drink was served, it was the wrong drink. It was practically an hour before I had my food and the right drink in front of me. I laughed to myself about it and when I left, I paid my bill, said thanks and left my typical 20% tip. Will I go back? Certainly. People make mistakes. Should we expect more when we are paying for a service? Sure, but things happen now and then.
I see many posts on here about the horrible this, the horrible that, bad drivers, bad food, helicopters flying too low. You know what? I love it here and will spend the rest of my days here.
The best part about my comment here is that I'm a rude New Yorker, go figure.

I really love your attitude. :thumbup:

[mrdarcy]

Chief X,
You are the kind of person who makes The Villages among the finest places on earth in which to live.

[sunday]

Can't speak for other golfing groups but we use this time to "settle up" on the game winnings and to gather info for the following week's game; etc; who will put the request in, who will make the game up and who will be in what group. More a matter of convienance than anything else.

This kinda soulds like an entitlement issue... disregarding the fact that these are business' that need to be run in the best interest of all customers not a specific percentage or group.
Remember that large groups, even if they arrive at the same time, are inefficient to service...and otherwise on the cost prohibitive side, especially when it is busy(snow-bird season). These operators, as businessmen, need to capitalize on every available seat in their restaurants this time of year, so that they are able to stick around to take care of us in the harsh summer months....

I think it is also important to point out that a lot golf course restaurants will not allow golfers in the dining areas without a shower and change of clothes.... I personally find sweaty golfers offensive(even when it's me:loco:).

Also, I am not sure about FL... but in SC gambleing, or settleing up, in bars or restautants without a gaming liscense is illegal... and they will shut you down. Show a little respect toward the livelyhoods of the people that are trying to make a living while you settle your $2 bets., at your convenience.

The long and short of it...if one restaurants policys don't jive with you...go somewhere else, it does not mean that the restaurant owner is insensitive or unsympathetic... they are in most all cases trying to run a business to the good of the whole.... special interest groups, get over yourselfs yor a minority.

In referance managemant of Mallory and Glenview... Randy P. is a partner and common denominator in both restaurants...but to my knowledge has limited involvement in both. He runs his restaurant in Belleview... while the Country Clubs are operated by 2 different partners of his... Hince the vast difference in the in the organizations. Just FYI

[Russ_Boston]

In referance managemant of Mallory and Glenview... Randy P. is a partner and common denominator in both restaurants...but to my knowledge has limited involvement in both. He runs his restaurant in Belleview... while the Country Clubs are operated by 2 different partners of his... Hince the vast difference in the in the organizations. Just FYI

Makes sense - thanks for the info.

[mikeandnancy1112]

Once in awhile we get a not-so-good meal, not a bad one, though. For the most part, we get great service and great food in all the restaurants in the Villages.

[DDoug]

We give places three times if by then 2 out 3 are bad we dont go back. Mallory is one we dont go to not in the last 2 years. Did try about 8 months ago same thing couldnt get a drink 35 minutes and we did ask the server 2 times about our drinks. I guess they just didnt like us not that I really care Beef O Bradys has always been good service food etc. It is what it is

[Pturner]

A very interesting perspective. By the way, how do you explain the fact that Glenview (One of your Good choices) and Mallory (One of your stinko places) are both run by the same person, Randy Perkins.

Actually I think both of these are mediocre at best. Common to both, and Cane Garde, is their very poor treatment of Golf Groups of 12 - 20 players, none of whom they allow to sit down until all are present. They think it's OK to make Group #1 wait 30-40 minutes until the group on the 14th green finishes # 18. When I finish my round I want to sit down, have a drink and order a meal. I don't want to be bullied by an arrogant Manager of Hostess who have no conception that golfers don't want to wait until the last group finishes to be seated.

Hi Bigalibaba,
If the first group holds seats for 30-40 minutes until the group on the 14th hole finishes, should other patrons who come in during that time have to wait for a table while seats are saved for people who will be there 40 minutes later?

[Pturner]

There is a very easy to understand problem here. If I took a poll of 1000 Villagers on CC food quality, I would have a fairly consistent pattern. Lopez, Palmer and Cane Garden would be at the top, Glenview close, OB and Hacienda in the middle and Tierra, Mallory and Havana at the bottom. Order might vary by one position or so but it would be close. They all have the same buildings and kitchens and parking lots. They all hire their staff from the same pool of talent and they all have the same customer base. There is only one difference of any significance. Now I have been accused of being in an ivory tower, even snarky for saying this, but that is just the lack of knowledge of those people. Management is the only difference. If I shifted those managers right by 4 places, within 90 days the pattern would follow the management.

Follow Warren Buffett. He only buys companies with solid management that have a proven track record. Now yes, that leads to good earnings history, low debt to equity, and solid value, but it is because of the management. Follow the successful mutual funds and it always because of the management. Listen to Adam Bold or Ric Edelman and there whole sales pitch is the mutual fund manager.

Can good managers fail? Sure. Usually as a result of an outside force. War, earthquake, flood, fire, or some event outside their control. 100% of all problems in any business are owned by the management of that business. Good managers solve those problems and deliver results. I don't care what the business is the rule is the same.

The good places to eat have good management. The bad ones ...........

I agree. One might argue that an owner didn't provide management with the resources needed (e.g., enough staff or quality product), but that is the owner's part of the management equation.

[Barefoot]

Hi Bigalibaba,
If the first group holds seats for 30-40 minutes until the group on the 14th hole finishes, should other patrons who come in during that time have to wait for a table while seats are saved for people who will be there 40 minutes later?

I think Bigalibaba's point was that he wants to be seated when he is finished golfing, and not wait for his compadres. Perhaps I'm missing the point here.

[Russ_Boston]

I think Bigalibaba's point was that he wants to be seated when he is finished golfing, and not wait for his compadres. Perhaps I'm missing the point here.

Yes he wants to be seated but that would mean holding the other places empty until all get there. If you have 3-4 foursomes and you seat the first foursome that would be about a half hour to 45 min before the last group arrived.

Not sure how I feel about this. I do know that I don't want to be told that it will be 30/40 min wait and I see 2-3 four tops empty while they finish their round. Don't think that's fair either.

[Pturner]

Yes he wants to be seated but that would mean holding the other places empty until all get there. If you have 3-4 foursomes and you seat the first foursome that would be about a half hour to 45 min before the last group arrived.

Not sure how I feel about this. I do know that I don't want to be told that it will be 30/40 min wait and I see 2-3 four tops empty while they finish their round. Don't think that's fair either.

Thanks Russ. That's what I was trying to say.

[rubicon]

Thank you all for reaffirming my belief that eating out ought to be an exception rather than the rule. Too often I found the wait to be long , the food just adequate and the price not commiserate with the experience. I therefore seldom eat out prefer to eat in even when I am going out. I only found three places locally in 5 years that I would return to. Make that two I had brunch at one of them yesterday to celebrate a birthdayand will never go back. I will never make a recommendation nor will I freely offer negative feedback. To each its own P.S. I married an excellent good who mentored under my mother :D

[graciegirl]

I kinda agree Rubicon. I know most people enjoy dining out, but I kinda like my own cooking...especially since most restaurants these days serve a lot of premade food, kinda like the restaurant variety of a TV dinner.

Last night at Cane, one of my favorite restaurants, I ordered roast beef, mashed potatoes and gravy. It was O.K., not completely hot. Not awful, not wonderful.

Now there are things I love at Cane, their salads and their burgers are always top notch...and the servers are just wonderful...always.

I have another confession to make. I like to grocery shop too.

Gracie.
Born in the wrong century.

I don't like to clean up, but Sweetie does that for us. I'm so lucky.

[katezbox]

Thanks Russ. That's what I was trying to say.

Me too - it doesn't seem fair to the restaurant owner, the staff or other patrons to hold tables for 20 open for so long. If there are 5 foursomes playing, you are looking at 40+ minutes from the first group to the last group.

If Big Al wanted to be seated with the foursome immediately after his, then no worries...

[Russ_Boston]

I have another confession to make. I like to grocery shop too.

Don't tell anyone but I'm with you. Maybe we can leave Sweetie and Linda home and hit the market!

[nkrifats]

Don't tell anyone but I'm with you. Maybe we can leave Sweetie and Linda home and hit the market!

i would like to join that trip! Love to do the grocery shopping. Only trouble is I add to the list.

[rubicon]

Folks left out "cook" in my last post meant to say My wife is a good "cook". Scary when you realize you had an unintentional mental pause. I do not have the shopping gene but again I am married to a wonerdful woman although she is a couponaholic. A byproduct I am afraid of being reared in a family with 8 other siblings, and her father wasn't even catholic. Anyway careful shopping and cooking at home help us reduce spending or at least diverts spending toward items of a more lasting nature. I have a brother who unbashfully proclaims that he likes going out and likes being waited on. I agreed but reminded him that its good to be waited on as long as you don't have long to wait.:D Essentialy we all spend about the same amount of money it is just a matter of where. All of you enjoy your passions:smiley:

[bigalibaba]

Hi Bigalibaba,
If the first group holds seats for 30-40 minutes until the group on the 14th hole finishes, should other patrons who come in during that time have to wait for a table while seats are saved for people who will be there 40 minutes later?

How about keeping the playing field level. First group comes in at 1:00PM. Orders their lunch. Second group arrives 7 minutes later, orders their lunch, etc.etc. Only one table sits empty until the last group arrives. Now, how about considering that almost always there are other tables available so that other patrons don't have to wait at all. Bottom line is that these people are using a bunch of rules that they are not smart enough to interpret with logic and good sense. Hopefully they will understand when we don't show up in the Summer when they will be crying for our business. You can't alienate us in the Winter and try to kiss our butts in the Summer. I doesn't work that way if you have any concern for who your real customers are.

[ricthemic]

How about keeping the playing field level. First group comes in at 1:00PM. Orders their lunch. Second group arrives 7 minutes later, orders their lunch, etc.etc. Only one table sits empty until the last group arrives. Now, how about considering that almost always there are other tables available so that other patrons don't have to wait at all. Bottom line is that these people are using a bunch of rules that they are not smart enough to interpret with logic and good sense. Hopefully they will understand when we don't show up in the Summer when they will be crying for our business. You can't alienate us in the Winter and try to kiss our butts in the Summer. I doesn't work that way if you have any concern for who your real customers are.

Good post, totally agree with it except for one word "customers". Regarding the championship clubs, sales office says we are "members" which where I come from are treated better than off the street "customers".

[katezbox]

How about keeping the playing field level. First group comes in at 1:00PM. Orders their lunch. Second group arrives 7 minutes later, orders their lunch, etc.etc. Only one table sits empty until the last group arrives. Now, how about considering that almost always there are other tables available so that other patrons don't have to wait at all. Bottom line is that these people are using a bunch of rules that they are not smart enough to interpret with logic and good sense. Hopefully they will understand when we don't show up in the Summer when they will be crying for our business. You can't alienate us in the Winter and try to kiss our butts in the Summer. I doesn't work that way if you have any concern for who your real customers are.

I think that solution is similar to what I suggested. If you sit two or three foursomes to a table, you should be able to sit and be served fairly quickly. Heck, bring a Coke or a beer to enjoy in the parking lot while you wait.

You mention that there are available tables while you are waiting, however, whenever we are at Cane around midday it is usually packed. You also mention that in the summer the CCs need your business more as they are less crowded. That seems a bit contradictory if they are not full in the winter and not full in the summer.

The restaurants have to make money and they need to keep their help - all by selling food/beverages to golfers, red hat ladies, life style folks etc. They are not like "private" country clubs with minimum spend amounts every month.

[Russ_Boston]

Second group arrives 7 minutes later, orders their lunch, etc.etc.

7 min later? Have you read any of the posts about slow play? Closer to 10-12 min for second group with the third another 10-12. If I'm the one waiting for a table while it takes 20 min for your whole table to be present then I'm not happy.

I like Kate's idea (which I have done numerous times), have a beverage in the parking lot or at the last green and talk about the round. Wait for the last group to play (everyone loves an audience of hecklers:)) and decide where to eat. Then go as a group.

[josephine71]

we started going out of the village to eat...went to little Joeys last night very good....

[chuckinca]

What was very good? (I've only had pizza there)


.

[MrMark]

7 min later? Have you read any of the posts about slow play? Closer to 10-12 min for second group with the third another 10-12. If I'm the one waiting for a table while it takes 20 min for your whole table to be present then I'm not happy.

I like Kate's idea (which I have done numerous times), have a beverage in the parking lot or at the last green and talk about the round. Wait for the last group to play (everyone loves an audience of hecklers:)) and decide where to eat. Then go as a group.

Wow! 10-12 minutes behind the group in front of you. Must be mostly the people who have moved on to the Championship Courses well before they have completed their apprenticeship on the Executive Courses.

Having beverages in the parking lot sounds a lot like what people do up North in the parking lots at Public Courses. Tacky!

[sunday]

With the exception of Cane and Palmer.... There is no affiliation between the golf courses and the restaurants that are located at them....the restaurants are open to the public:shrug:

[sunday]

Having beverages in the parking lot sounds a lot like what people do up North in the parking lots at Public Courses. Tacky!


Not showering/bathing before entering a dining facility after a sweaty round of golf..... That's Tacky... Thats disgusting.The beer drinking and heckeling in the parking lot I can take.

How about drinking beer, heckleing, and showering in the locker room while we wait for the rest of our group to putt out; before going into the restaurant to eat???

Makes perfect sense to me.. JMHO

[MrMark]

Not showering/bathing before entering a dining facility after a sweaty round of golf..... That's Tacky... Thats disgusting.The beer drinking and heckeling in the parking lot I can take.

How about drinking beer, heckleing, and showering in the locker room while we wait for the rest of our group to putt out; before going into the restaurant to eat???

Makes perfect sense to me.. JMHO

Methinks you have never been in a semi non existent locker room/shower facility in The Villages Country Clubs. That is a far more revolting option than breaking bread with a bunch of 15 or so equally smelly golfing buddies. Oh well, if you choose to parade around in your birthday suit in what amounts to a public restroom, so be it. I'd rather stink a bit until I get home to my real shower.

[sunday]

Methinks you have never been in a semi non existent locker room/shower facility in The Villages Country Clubs. That is a far more revolting option than breaking bread with a bunch of 15 or so equally smelly golfing buddies. Oh well, if you choose to parade around in your birthday suit in what amounts to a public restroom, so be it. I'd rather stink a bit until I get home to my real shower.

Just as I suspected....entitlement issue.

"I want to do what's best/convenient for me, regardless of how it might negatively impact someone elses experience.".

What of the folks that are unfortunate enough to be seated next to this golf group?

Unfortunately, this is a culture created by the developer..that the proprietors of the local business' have had to endure, but didn't necessarily sign on for. Personally, my hat is of to any bussiness in the villages that is ventureing to break it....

I look forward to some peaceful dining experiences in the villages when I return to the area in May...

[graciegirl]

Just as I suspected....entitlement issue.

"I want to do what's best/convenient for me, regardless of how it might negatively impact someone elses experience.".

What of the folks that are unfortunate enough to be seated next to this golf group?

Unfortunately, this is a culture created by the developer..that the proprietors of the local business' have had to endure, but didn't necessarily sign on for. Personally, my hat is of to any bussiness in the villages that is ventureing to break it....

I look forward to some peaceful dining experiences in the villages when I return to the area in May...

OH MY.

(That is twice I have said that today)

I have golfed for over 40 years and never showered before having a sandwich or drinks with my buddies.

Neither has my husband Sweetie. (I think his hygiene is perfect)


Gracie aka Stinky.

[Russ_Boston]

Wow! 10-12 minutes behind the group in front of you. Must be mostly the people who have moved on to the Championship Courses well before they have completed their apprenticeship on the Executive Courses.

Having beverages in the parking lot sounds a lot like what people do up North in the parking lots at Public Courses. Tacky!

Please!!!

I'm not talking about public rowdiness for god's sake. But just having a water/soda/beer from your cooler while you wait for the others to finish. And try timing it next time - I'll bet it's no better than 9-10 minutes. Could be better but not likely, unless there are 4 of me:)

And the executive courses aren't meant solely as training grounds.

[katezbox]

Please!!!

I'm not talking about public rowdiness for god's sake. But just having a water/soda/beer from your cooler while you wait for the others to finish. And try timing it next time - I'll bet it's no better than 9-10 minutes. Could be better but not likely, unless there are 4 of me:)

And the executive courses aren't meant solely as training grounds.


Tee times generally start about 7 - 9 minutes apart. Sometimes with more time on the execs. Havana says it should be played in 4 hours and 15 minutes. Doesn't that come out to about 14 minutes a hole?

Also, FYI - Russ' handicap is just about my shoe size....so he is no slacker.

And Gracie, I think I am stinky too. Have never showered after a round when having a drink afterward. Also, usually just grab something quick if we are eating out. I think if I was planning on having the works at Lopez, I would want to clean up my act a bit....

k

[Pturner]

OH MY.

(That is twice I have said that today)

I have golfed for over 40 years and never showered before having a sandwich or drinks with my buddies.

Neither has my husband Sweetie. (I think his hygiene is perfect)


Gracie aka Stinky.

Me neither. Nor do I think it's tacky for a golfer to have beer from his cooler during or after golf.

Pturner aka tacky stinker :shocked:

[K9-Lovers]

PeeUuuu! Sure am glad I don't golf or I would have to hang out with all you tacky stinkies!

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n177/Mattydaboy/stinky.jpg

[Bill-n-Brillo]

WARNING: Stay upwind of this crew! :thumbup:

Bill

[Irish Rover]

OK, I wasn't going to comment on this one, but I can't control my fingers. After ten plus years of visiting TV for a couple of months a year, I have listened to how bad the snow birds are, how crowded the restaurants are, how bad the the roundaboubts are, how congested the area is, how the dogs are screwimg up the squares, and how hard it is to get tee times.
All of this is ture some of the time, but if you don't like it - MOVE. You are in a great place and YOU are not going to make it like the old home town because that's what you escaped from. ENJOY your new life and thank God every day that you had the opportunity to spend your leisure years in THE VILLAGES.
I split time in two other locations but I still look forward to my two months in TV. I'm just saying--------!
Irish Rover

[K9-Lovers]

OK, I wasn't going to comment on this one, but I can't control my fingers. After ten plus years of visiting TV for a couple of months a year, I have listened to how bad the snow birds are, how crowded the restaurants are, how bad the the roundaboubts are, how congested the area is, how the dogs are screwimg up the squares, and how hard it is to get tee times.
All of this is ture some of the time, but if you don't like it - MOVE. You are in a great place and YOU are not going to make it like the old home town because that's what you escaped from. ENJOY your new life and thank God every day that you had the opportunity to spend your leisure years in THE VILLAGES.
I split time in two other locations but I still look forward to my two months in TV. I'm just saying--------!
Irish Rover

:BigApplause:

[Russ_Boston]

OK, I wasn't going to comment on this one, but I can't control my fingers. After ten plus years of visiting TV for a couple of months a year, I have listened to how bad the snow birds are, how crowded the restaurants are, how bad the the roundaboubts are, how congested the area is, how the dogs are screwimg up the squares, and how hard it is to get tee times.
All of this is ture some of the time, but if you don't like it - MOVE. You are in a great place and YOU are not going to make it like the old home town because that's what you escaped from. ENJOY your new life and thank God every day that you had the opportunity to spend your leisure years in THE VILLAGES.
I split time in two other locations but I still look forward to my two months in TV. I'm just saying--------!
Irish Rover

Glad you didn't control your fingers:clap2::clap2:

[ceejay]

all of this is true some of the time, but if you don't like it - move. You are in a great place and you are not going to make it like the old home town because that's what you escaped from. Enjoy your new life and thank god every day that you had the opportunity to spend your leisure years in the villages.

amen

[Bonny]

OK, I wasn't going to comment on this one, but I can't control my fingers. After ten plus years of visiting TV for a couple of months a year, I have listened to how bad the snow birds are, how crowded the restaurants are, how bad the the roundaboubts are, how congested the area is, how the dogs are screwimg up the squares, and how hard it is to get tee times.
All of this is ture some of the time, but if you don't like it - MOVE. You are in a great place and YOU are not going to make it like the old home town because that's what you escaped from. ENJOY your new life and thank God every day that you had the opportunity to spend your leisure years in THE VILLAGES.
I split time in two other locations but I still look forward to my two months in TV. I'm just saying--------!
Irish Rover
:thumbup::mademyday:

[MrMark]

Tee times generally start about 7 - 9 minutes apart. Sometimes with more time on the execs. Havana says it should be played in 4 hours and 15 minutes. Doesn't that come out to about 14 minutes a hole?

Also, FYI - Russ' handicap is just about my shoe size....so he is no slacker.

And Gracie, I think I am stinky too. Have never showered after a round when having a drink afterward. Also, usually just grab something quick if we are eating out. I think if I was planning on having the works at Lopez, I would want to clean up my act a bit....

k

Depending on which Championship Course you play Tee Time intervals are either 7 or 8 minutes. The fact, true or not,that it takes about 14 minutes to play a hole has nothing to do with the price of apples, so what's your point? Simple fact is that if you start 7-8 minutes apart you should finish 7-8 minutes apart.

[Russ_Boston]

Depending on which Championship Course you play Tee Time intervals are either 7 or 8 minutes. The fact, true or not,that it takes about 14 minutes to play a hole has nothing to do with the price of apples, so what's your point? Simple fact is that if you start 7-8 minutes apart you should finish 7-8 minutes apart.

That's true in theory. But we all know that some groups can cause issues. But this distracts from the question about whether all the foursomes should come together to the restaurant. I contend they should and my suggestion was to wait for them at the course as I said. If they all come 7 min. apart that's great, but please don't make 2 - 3 parties who are ready wait at Cane during the busy season while your other foursome tables lie empty for 15-20 min. Don't see how anyone could say that's right. During the off season when there are empty tables - OK with that. That's my take on it.

[batman911]

May I suggest that you use the time you wait for your friends to finish playing to clean your golf equipment. It will save you time when you get home. Whenever I wait at the golf course, I try to find something useful to do to fill the time. That would include digging out a few weeds to improve the course.

[Barefoot]

OK, I wasn't going to comment on this one, but I can't control my fingers. After ten plus years of visiting TV for a couple of months a year, I have listened to how bad the snow birds are, how crowded the restaurants are, how bad the the roundaboubts are, how congested the area is, how the dogs are screwimg up the squares, and how hard it is to get tee times. All of this is ture some of the time, but if you don't like it - MOVE. Irish Rover

I don't the kveching is really done seriously! It's just human nature to kvech about things, even in Paradise.

[Pturner]

I don't the kveching is really done seriously! It's just human nature to kvech about things, even in Paradise.

I always wondered how to spell it.:read:

[MrMark]

That's true in theory. But we all know that some groups can cause issues. But this distracts from the question about whether all the foursomes should come together to the restaurant. I contend they should and my suggestion was to wait for them at the course as I said. If they all come 7 min. apart that's great, but please don't make 2 - 3 parties who are ready wait at Cane during the busy season while your other foursome tables lie empty for 15-20 min. Don't see how anyone could say that's right. During the off season when there are empty tables - OK with that. That's my take on it.

OK. Got it! During busy season they can treat you like trash. In the Summer when they are crying for business you should kiss their butts. WOW!

[Pturner]

OK. Got it! During busy season they can treat you like trash. In the Summer when they are crying for business you should kiss their butts. WOW!

Say Mhoerauf,
Methinks you have um... very creative interpretive skills. He said nothing of the sort.

[MrMark]

Say Mhoerauf,
Methinks you have um... very creative interpretive skills. He said nothing of the sort.

Following is the quote I was referring to: "please don't make 2 - 3 parties who are ready wait at Cane during the busy season while your other foursome tables lie empty for 15-20 min. Don't see how anyone could say that's right. During the off season when there are empty tables - OK with that"

I've highlighted the phrases that I was interpretively commenting about in red to help you find them.

[sunday]

OK. Got it! During busy season they can treat you like trash. In the Summer when they are crying for business you should kiss their butts. WOW!

I'm going to play Devil's Advocate....

The Villages is still a very "seasonal" community(November-April).
Suppose alot of these business only make money in those months, and operate in the red in the remaining(feeding expences from seasonal savings). Certianly, I have witnessed many organizations in other highly seasonal demegraphics close their doors in the off season; pocketing the profits from a lucritive season...as opposed to re-investing them back into the year-round residents and staff.

Personally, If I owned a business in the villages, and I did not recieve your full cooperation and support in "season" when I needed it most.. You could go somewhere else in the off season as well... (remember, the good restaurants and country clubs get better in the off season, and the bad ones get worse or go out of business).

Can we think for 2 seconds...of all the courtesies these establishments extend, exclusively to those of us who are here in the "off-season"(I am only there in the off season, blessed)...The promotions and specials, the ability to pick-up tables in the dining rooms as we come in sweaty off the golf course, extended happy-hours, the extra time owners, management, and staff get to spend visiting with us?? Consider these things are done in gratitude... cause it's not making them more money.

I suggest we get over thinking these business' owe us something because of year-round residency...it entitles you to "NOTHING".

Thanks for what you said Irish...and Russ, you're always "the man".

[nkrifats]

I'm going to play Devil's Advocate....

The Villages is still a very "seasonal" community(November-April).
Suppose alot of these business only make money in those months, and operate in the red in the remaining(feeding expences from seasonal savings). Certianly, I have witnessed many organizations in other highly seasonal demegraphics close their doors in the off season; pocketing the profits from a lucritive season...as opposed to re-investing them back into the year-round residents and staff.

Personally, If I owned a business in the villages, and I did not recieve your full cooperation and support in "season" when I needed it most.. You could go somewhere else in the off season as well... (remember, the good restaurants and country clubs get better in the off season, and the bad ones get worse or go out of business).

Can we think for 2 seconds...of all the courtesies these establishments extend, exclusively to those of us who are here in the "off-season"(I am only there in the off season, blessed)...The promotions and specials, the ability to pick-up tables in the dining rooms as we come in sweaty off the golf course, extended happy-hours, the extra time owners, management, and staff get to spend visiting with us?? Consider these things are done in gratitude... cause it's not making them more money.

I suggest we get over thinking these business' owe us something because of year-round residency...it entitles you to "NOTHING".

Thanks for what you said Irish...and Russ, you're always "the man".

Thank you. Very Well put. We have that here in RI and I do miss some of the places I go when they are closed.

[chuckster]

Thank you. Very Well put. We have that here in RI and I do miss some of the places I go when they are closed.

I also agree with Russ and Sunday.......great explanation.

[Russ_Boston]

Following is the quote I was referring to: "please don't make 2 - 3 parties who are ready wait at Cane during the busy season while your other foursome tables lie empty for 15-20 min. Don't see how anyone could say that's right. During the off season when there are empty tables - OK with that"

I've highlighted the phrases that I was interpretively commenting about in red to help you find them.

My point is that during the off season they have room to do what you say without bothering anyone. In the on season, to do what you say, would cause someone (either your foursomes or other diners) some wait. I say first come first serve if there is a wait involved.

Don't see how you can't understand my points.

[Bogie Shooter]

My point is that during the off season they have room to do what you say without bothering anyone. In the on season, to do what you say, would cause someone (either your foursomes or other diners) some wait. I say first come first serve if there is a wait involved.

Don't see how you can't understand my points.

Seems simple enough to me.

[chuckster]

me too. Thanks again Russ.

[MrMark]

My point is that during the off season they have room to do what you say without bothering anyone. In the on season, to do what you say, would cause someone (either your foursomes or other diners) some wait. I say first come first serve if there is a wait involved.

Don't see how you can't understand my points.

But I do see your points! By now you should probably have figured out that I simply don't agree with "your points"! Hopefully now you and your several supporters understand that I disagree with "your points"! Got it?

[jgbama]

I always wondered how to spell it.:read:

A new term for me so I googled it. Came up kvetching:
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kvetching - definition of kvetching by the Free Online ...
kvetch (kv ch) Slang. intr.v. kvetched, kvetch·ing, kvetch·es. To complain persistently and whiningly. n. 1. A chronic, whining complainer. 2. A nagging complaint ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/kvetching -

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I guess it is our American Way to kvetch, even in Florida's Friendliest Hometown!! Can't wait to move down and kvetch!!

I agree with "first come first serve".

Don't know the rule at TV about separate checks, but when I've been North of the Mason-Dixon line, I've found the restaurants wouldn't divide the check up when you have 4 or 6 people in your party. We end up with "green visors and stubby pencils" trying to figure each person's share! For some reason the guy who got chopped steak didn't want to share the cost of my lobster by doing a "cost averaging". :D

[katezbox]

But I do see your points! By now you should probably have figured out that I simply don't agree with "your points"! Hopefully now you and your several supporters understand that I disagree with "your points"! Got it?

Russ,

Not only is he rude, he disagrees with you! Golly gosh! And here I thought he was just.... oh never mind... Not worth being snarky over...

k

[Bonny]

:rant-rave: :popcorn: :boom:

[katezbox]

:rant-rave: :popcorn: :boom:

Haha Bonny,


I probably needed this one....chilout

k

[MrMark]

Russ,

Not only is he rude, he disagrees with you! Golly gosh! And here I thought he was just.... oh never mind... Not worth being snarky over...

k

My comments are neither impertinent, or irreverent in tone or manner, in case you didn't know what snarky means. Time to recognize superior intellect! If Russ in Boston was here in TV his comments might be more relevant.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

My comments are neither impertinent, or irreverent in tone or manner, in case you didn't know what snarky means. Time to recognize superior intellect! If Russ in Boston was here in TV his comments might be more relevant.

I believe you overlooked the "sarcastic" portion of the 'snarky' definition.

Not sure I understand the 'superior intellect' comment. Any other info appreciated.

Thanks -
Bill :)

[K9-Lovers]

:popcorn:

[ceejay]

Not sure I understand the 'superior intellect' comment. Any other info appreciated.

Thanks -
Bill :)

Inquiring minds would like to know! :read:

[sunday]

:boxing2::popcorn::boxing2:

[Russ_Boston]

My comments are neither impertinent, or irreverent in tone or manner, in case you didn't know what snarky means. Time to recognize superior intellect! If Russ in Boston was here in TV his comments might be more relevant.

Yes you are right. Since I don't live perm in TV I have no idea about fair play or anything about golf etiquette or slow play or....Only full time residents can have a proper view. How dare I:)

[memason]

My comments are neither impertinent, or irreverent in tone or manner, in case you didn't know what snarky means. Time to recognize superior intellect! If Russ in Boston was here in TV his comments might be more relevant.

I though it was obvious that "recognizing superior intellect" was directed at me . . . :1rotfl:

oh, I almost forgot..... :popcorn:

[Pturner]

But I do see your points! By now you should probably have figured out that I simply don't agree with "your points"! Hopefully now you and your several supporters understand that I disagree with "your points"! Got it?

Well now Mhoerauf,
I think that you think you understand Russ's point. However, judging from this comment...

OK. Got it! During busy season they can treat you like trash. In the Summer when they are crying for business you should kiss their butts. WOW!

It appears that you do not. He simply neither said nor implied anything of the sort.

His point-- I tried to make the same point earlier-- actually has nothing to do with how anyone is treated in the summer. Instead, the point is that people who are already at the restaurant (in snowbird season) should not have to wait for a table for 20 minutes while you (or anyone) holds a vacant table for golfers who are not yet in the restaurant.

Perhaps you disagree with that. Perhaps you think it is fine for a golf club restaurant to treat customers who are already in the restaurant (during snowbird season) like trash so that you can hold a table for your golfing buddies who are not already in the restaurant. Indeed, if you do understand Russ's point and you disagree, then this would be your position.

Is it?

:popcorn:

[sunday]

:popcorn:

[Bill-n-Brillo]

:popcorn:

Bill :thumbup:

[graciegirl]

Boy Howdy.

Should I get the girls together?

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Boy Howdy.

Should I get the girls together?

Probably best to have them at the ready............

Bill

[katezbox]

My comments are neither impertinent, or irreverent in tone or manner, in case you didn't know what snarky means. Time to recognize superior intellect! If Russ in Boston was here in TV his comments might be more relevant.

I bow to your superior ego (erm, intellect) - the one that failed to recognize that snarky was directed back at myself... the poor little match girl...

[katezbox]

Boy Howdy.

Should I get the girls together?

:BigApplause::BigApplause:

[Pturner]

Boy Howdy.

Should I get the girls together?


Yes! Then you and Red can take me out back-- and tickle me silly.

[Auntmimi]

Took guests to Mallory tonight, hoping for an enjoyable dinner. The hostess was rude, the wait was LONG!!, the food was AWFUL (one dinner was so-so, two were awful, and the other was inedible and had to be returned)......and we were humiliated in front of our guests. My husband is now eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to make up for the poor meal. What does it take to get a good meal in The Villages other than cooking at home????

There are consistently good restaurants here in TV's, e.g., Cane Garden,
Thai Ruby, Lopez and The Lighthouse are our favorites. We just ate at
Sakora near Colony Cottage on 466A and it was very, very good and cute
inside.

We are not fond of chain restaurants even though some here are decent. Sorry you had a bad experience, but the manager is there for a reason.

[K9-Lovers]

Boy Howdy.

Should I get the girls together?

SQUIRT GUN SQUAD AT THE READY!
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[cynkr67]

I am always puzzled by the bad reviews the Villages restaurants get on the TOV. My husband and I are pretty choosy, and we've been happy with most of the restaurants we've visited. We have had an occasional off night when the service wasn't up to usual standards, or the food wasn't as warm as we like (for example) but overall we have been very pleased. If you're looking for gourmet fare and top notch, highly trained wait-staff you may be disappointed, but you'd also be spending much less $$.

[Layaway Queen]

Don't know what that lady was talking about! We took our visiting family to Mallory for supper last week and the food was fabulous. And the server couldn't have been more pleasant. We were in a little bit of a hurry and she accomodated us excellently. I mean where can you eat for 8.99 and get all that! I will probably eat there again on Thursday night for Italian night. Excellent!!
Sincerely,
layawayQueen

[K9-Lovers]

Don't know what that lady was talking about! We took our visiting family to Mallory for supper last week and the food was fabulous. And the server couldn't have been more pleasant. We were in a little bit of a hurry and she accomodated us excellently. I mean where can you eat for 8.99 and get all that! I will probably eat there again on Thursday night for Italian night. Excellent!!
Sincerely,
layawayQueen

We both really like Mallory Hill CC, too. We try to go every Friday for their Victorian Lake Perch dinner. Marrrvelouuusss.

[Figmo Bohica]

We a moving to the Villages shortly. In the process of packing up this old homestead and shipping it down south. Y'all complaining about the places to eat should come visit us. We have 7, thats right, 7, places to chose from with out a 50 miles or longer drive. Can't wait to get to a place with over 200 to chose from and BTW, only 3 are worth while. We are headed to one today for Honey's birthday. She's only 29 with some change.

[Freeda]

We a moving to the Villages shortly. In the process of packing up this old homestead and shipping it down south. Y'all complaining about the places to eat should come visit us. We have 7, thats right, 7, places to chose from with out a 50 miles or longer drive. Can't wait to get to a place with over 200 to chose from and BTW, only 3 are worth while. We are headed to one today for Honey's birthday. She's only 29 with some change.

Thanks for that reality check!! Yes, I'm staying here in TV!

[Layaway Queen]

not sure what the Greek Ostrich was referring to but once again we went to the Mallory Country club. B:wave:ut a group of us went last evening and everone thought it was great. it cost us $22 so what can you expect. The portions were big the food was hot and good and Colleen our waitress was a lot of fun and very courteous.What could be any better for $22. Our guests were extremely pleased.
Lay Away Queen:wave::wave:

[eweissenbach]

First let me say that I would not make a good food reviewer! I am like my mother; "easy to please". My mother was always positive and never grumpy, when she had a meal it was always "delicious". I too almost always find something good about a meal, even if it isn't five star quality. I had a superior at the company I worked for that considered himself a wine and food connesseur (sp?). He almost always had to reprimand the staff or send something back when he ate out. I usually found everything to be excellent and was very happy with my meal. Which of us do you think was generally happier? It seems to me you go through life with the choice of being easily pleased or hard to please. While some people laud the hard to please people as being discriminating and possessing high standards, I see them as generally unhappy people. Now that is not to say that truly shoddy service or badly prepared food, or a dirty environment are acceptable, but I simply find that to be a rare exception. By the way, I LOVE Mallory!

[gatherer47]

I also enjoy Mallory.Always had a fine dining experience with food and service.My only "negative" is the noise.The room seems to hold the noise in.Lighthouse is that way too but would not keep me from dining at either place.

[bmar723]

I have found all the country club restaurants to be inconsistent but mostly good experiences as the food is usually decent and inexpensive. Glenview I find is a little skimpy on some of their meals for what they charge and Havana still has service problems. They all have good days and some not so good days.However I find them all acceptable and as I said, usually a good dining experience.

[rubicon]

I promised myself that I would never critque a eatery here on TOTV. A previous poster said " we are easy to please". I believe that is the key if you are one of those individuals who likes to eat out. One measurement to watch has to do with turnover, either as to the eatery itself and /or its management and staff. Good luck in your hunt to bag the "big one"...oH I meant to say the "good one"