View Full Version : Ease of Access to the various villages
jgbama
04-10-2011, 02:01 PM
I've read on a variety of forums about the ease of access into the different villages. Except for new villages which understandably must have open access for contractors, are all villages now that easy for non-residents to gain access. If so, that is a concern. Are the "resident only" entrances still restricted to the swipe cards?
When we come down for our annual weekly visits, we always use the swipe cards provided by the owners.
jblum315
04-10-2011, 02:17 PM
The Villages is not a gated community. All the streets are public streets, and no one can actually be denied access.
jgbama
04-10-2011, 02:22 PM
Okay folks, I should have done a search first. I see this point has been beat up pretty good on some other threads. Got a good idea of the answer to my question from reading a number of the posts.
For new members, beside me, the answer appears to be no, TV is not a true gated community.
I'll do a search next time a question pops into my head.
Bill-n-Brillo
04-10-2011, 02:48 PM
John, you should find a red button next to the card reader at all the gates. Push it, wait a few seconds, and up goes the gate.
Bill
BigLew
04-10-2011, 02:50 PM
which also takes a photo in case one might be needed later.
other roads within the villages are 'open' though outside traffic often sticks out like a sore thumb.
jgbama
04-10-2011, 03:28 PM
John, you should find a red button next to the card reader at all the gates. Push it, wait a few seconds, and up goes the gate.
Bill
Thanks Bill and Big Lew. Now another risky question. (hehehe) Is the bond just for the initial building of the infrastructure, which I'm assuming includes the roads, curbs, etc. Is later repaving or repairs to the streets then up to the County, the developers, or the collective homeowners on that street?
Mikeod
04-10-2011, 06:50 PM
For all except the Villa streets in Sumter (and, I think Marion) county, the streets are owned by the county and paving will be that county's responsibility. For the villa streets, I used to think they belonged to the developer or CDD and paving was budgeted through them. Lately, I think I have heard otherwise, so I hope someone from a villa neighborhood will chime in with correct information.
Pturner
04-10-2011, 07:12 PM
Hi jgbama,
First, it is perfectly fine to ask a question that has been addressed before on TOTV. No one, either new or veteran to TOTV, is expected to have to go back and search old threads to see whether something has been answered. Most of us are more than happy to help. It's actually more beneficial to ask. That way, you help other newbies who no doubt have the same questions.
Yes, the roads in TV are public and can be accessed without holding up a resident or guest pass to the transponder. The need either hold up the pass or push the button to wait for the gait is at best a deterrent to crime. Having to pause at the gate, and having a photo snapped, hopefully gives "pause" to would-be bad guys but it doesn't prevent their entry.
The public roads in TV are maintained by the county, not by TV.
You are correct that the bonds are a one-time assessment to pay for putting in the infrastructure. Amenities and infrastructure that are owned by TV are maintained by TV. We pay an annual maintenance fee for this, which is included on our annual TV property tax bill as a non-tax assessment.
Hope this helps.
hedoman
04-11-2011, 04:49 AM
We realized the gates really just slowed the pace of traffic when we saw you could just press a red button. It does give the appearance of a gated community. I didn't know it took pictures or I would have combed my hair and smiled! I like that they do that as it may help in solving a neighborhood "issue' or have I been watching too many CSI shows......
getdul981
04-11-2011, 06:17 AM
If I had to guess, I'd say you've been watching too many CSI shows.
Rosalie
04-11-2011, 07:06 AM
Do the homeowners of Patio Villas pay extra to maintain their streets? Do they pay an extra fee? (I know this is a bit off the original subject!) Thanks.
jgbama
04-11-2011, 07:15 AM
Hi jgbama,
First, it is perfectly fine to ask a question that has been addressed before on TOTV. No one, either new or veteran to TOTV, is expected to have to go back and search old threads to see whether something has been answered. Most of us are more than happy to help. It's actually more beneficial to ask. That way, you help other newbies who no doubt have the same questions.
Yes, the roads in TV are public and can be accessed without holding up a resident or guest pass to the transponder. The need either hold up the pass or push the button to wait for the gait is at best a deterrent to crime. Having to pause at the gate, and having a photo snapped, hopefully gives "pause" to would-be bad guys but it doesn't prevent their entry.
The public roads in TV are maintained by the county, not by TV.
You are correct that the bonds are a one-time assessment to pay for putting in the infrastructure. Amenities and infrastructure that are owned by TV are maintained by TV. We pay an annual maintenance fee for this, which is included on our annual TV property tax bill as a non-tax assessment.
Hope this helps.
Thanks PTurner, yes it helps a bunch. Understanding how a CDD works is certainly a learning curve. We attended a CDD orientation several years ago to learn a little more about the governing process of TV, but don't remember them covering the issue about the gates, etc.
We stayed in a villa off Canal last October and we drove to the gate at Bonita Blvd and it said Residents Only. Heck, we circled to Morse, down to Odell Circle, down to Buena Vista and back up to Bonita looking for an entrance with a Community Watch person, but there wasn't one. We finally got there, but boy howdy what an ordeal. Were ready for a "bibbit" when we got there! :1rotfl:
You would think after 7 visits we would have learned about the button.
This sure helped a lot. Thanks to you and others who helped by responding. :mademyday:
Bob45
04-11-2011, 07:17 AM
John, you should find a red button next to the card reader at all the gates. Push it, wait a few seconds, and up goes the gate.
Bill
Or you can just sit there. The gate will open. Takes a little while though. Try it, when no-one is behind you.
Bob
jgbama
04-11-2011, 07:23 AM
Or you can just sit there. The gate will open. Takes a little while though. Try it, when no-one is behind you.
Bob
WOW, thanks Bob. Didn't know that either!! Amazing what I've learned and still on my first cup of coffee! :clap2:
memason
04-11-2011, 09:22 AM
There's been lots of discussion of "why do we even have the gates, if anyone can get in anyway?" Other than the obvious purpose of being a deterrent to potential bad guys, I believe the gates are good traffic regulators. For instance, it would be almost impossible to cross some of these busy streets, in a golf cart, without the gates to stop the flow of cars. They allow the safe weaving/merging of carts and cars at the gates.
I'm sure there are lots of other reasons too...
graciegirl
04-11-2011, 09:25 AM
There's been lots of discussion of "why do we even have the gates, if anyone can get in anyway?" Other than the obvious purpose of being a deterrent to potential bad guys, I believe the gates are good traffic regulators. For instance, it would be almost impossible to cross some of these busy streets, in a golf cart, without the gates to stop the flow of cars. They allow the safe weaving/merging of carts and cars at the gates.
I'm sure there are lots of other reasons too...
Well sure there are other reasons. We can brag to people that we are moving, or live in a gated community.
Seriously, I think it slows down traffic and I like it takes your picture.
ajdeck
04-11-2011, 09:32 AM
Well sure there are other reasons. We can brag to people that we are moving, or live in a gated community.
Seriously, I think it slows down traffic and I like it takes your picture.
Yes, big thing is it takes a picture of those 'visiting' the neighborhood. That helps just in case there is a problem in the neighborhood.
Pturner
04-11-2011, 01:58 PM
We finally got there, but boy howdy ...
JG, I gotta know. Did you always say "boy howdy" or did you pick it up from "listening" to the wonderful and grand Postest with the Mostest?
Goodnight Gracie. :wave:
graciegirl
04-11-2011, 02:03 PM
JG, I gotta know. Did you always say "boy howdy" or did you pick it up from "listening" to the wonderful and grand Postest with the Mostest?
Goodnight Gracie. :wave:
NO...no no Don't say Goodnight Gracie. I was on here blathering when I was worrying and we just got back from oncologist and Helene's cat scan is O.K.
This is the important follow up one.
Now I will try not to post so much.:D
I am so happy.:highfive:
skyguy79
04-11-2011, 02:27 PM
NO...no no Don't say Goodnight Gracie. I was on here blathering when I was worrying and we just got back from oncologist and Helene's cat scan is O.K. This is the important follow up one.
I am so happy.:highfive:http://th260.photobucket.com/albums/ii14/JOHNTUCKER44/Ashleys%20Promotion%20-%201/th_applausesmiley-1.gif (http://media.photobucket.com/image/applause%20smiley/JOHNTUCKER44/Ashleys%20Promotion%20-%201/applausesmiley-1.gif?o=8)
Pturner
04-11-2011, 02:31 PM
NO...no no Don't say Goodnight Gracie. I was on here blathering when I was worrying and we just got back from oncologist and Helene's cat scan is O.K.
This is the important follow up one.
Now I will try not to post so much.:D
I am so happy.:highfive:
Hello Gracie,
I'm so excited about Helene's results. :highfive:
:mademyday:
And don't you dare try to not post so much. Red and I will come after you with everything we've got if you even think about trying such a thing. We won't stand for it. :D
Love,
P
eek, now I've forgotten what this thread is about. Hijack over and out.
BogeyBoy
04-11-2011, 03:04 PM
eek, now I've forgotten what this thread is about. Hijack over and out.
I think this thread is about photography and pushing one's buttons.
RiteLucky
04-11-2011, 04:47 PM
Great information Villagers. I'll be there in May to buy and this answers many questions I had regarding bonds and gates. Thanks!
Off topic: I wish they had a map of the golf cart trails, but I understand they are on a map I can buy there.
pklein9747
04-11-2011, 04:53 PM
Great information Villagers. I'll be there in May to buy and this answers many questions I had regarding bonds and gates. Thanks!
Off topic: I wish they had a map of the golf cart trails, but I understand they are on a map I can buy there.
We received a golf cart trail map each time we stayed on a Lifestyle Visit. Ask your agent for one! We keep one in our cart as we are still learning our way around.
HawkeyeBarb
04-11-2011, 05:04 PM
:BigApplause:That is wonderful news for your whole family, Gracie!!!! I wish you all continued good results! Enjoy our warmer Midwest weather and PLEASE keep on posting!! I love to read your comments...always insightful and kind!
Bill-n-Brillo
04-11-2011, 05:07 PM
gracie - Good news re: Helene!! See - all that worrying was for naught. :)
Bill
jgbama
04-11-2011, 05:51 PM
JG, I gotta know. Did you always say "boy howdy" or did you pick it up from "listening" to the wonderful and grand Postest with the Mostest?
Goodnight Gracie. :wave:
Well, not knowing how to get pass the *&#$% gate, I was "fixing" to call the National Guard to get me through!! "Boy howdy", I was steaming, especially after driving 7 1/2 hours and needing to make a "pit stop"!! As far as "postest with the mostest", didn't know that was someone's favorite phrase. Don't want to infringe so I'll defer to another. :smiley:
Since I'm a "registered redneck" (certificate #1027), I was about to pull a "hold my beer and watch this" and make a new path around the gate! (just kiddin' folks). Thirty-eight years in the military taught me better than that. I'm a rule follower of the grandest order!
But, thanks everyone for clarifying the gate issue. I do realize this isn't the first threat on the topic.:ho:
Pturner
04-11-2011, 06:08 PM
Well, not knowing how to get pass the *&#$% gate, I was "fixing" to call the National Guard to get me through!! "Boy howdy", I was steaming, especially after driving 7 1/2 hours and needing to make a "pit stop"!! As far as "postest with the mostest", didn't know that was someone's favorite phrase. Don't want to infringe so I'll defer to another. :smiley:
Since I'm a "registered redneck" (certificate #1027), I was about to pull a "hold my beer and watch this" and make a new path around the gate! (just kiddin' folks). Thirty-eight years in the military taught me better than that. I'm a rule follower of the grandest order!
But, thanks everyone for clarifying the gate issue. I do realize this isn't the first threat on the topic.:ho:
Boy howdy! ;)
golfnut
04-11-2011, 06:15 PM
Could that have grown out of an expression from many years ago used when entering a room.... Howdy Boys..............
Bill-n-Brillo
04-11-2011, 06:22 PM
Some additional insight.......FWIW -
http://www.word-detective.com/2008/07/14/boy-howdy/
Bill :)
another Linda
04-11-2011, 06:29 PM
For all except the Villa streets in Sumter (and, I think Marion) county, the streets are owned by the county and paving will be that county's responsibility. For the villa streets, I used to think they belonged to the developer or CDD and paving was budgeted through them. Lately, I think I have heard otherwise, so I hope someone from a villa neighborhood will chime in with correct information.
We live in a villa community. Recently the CDD repaired a section of the street that had been cracked and raised by tree roots. There will be no charge to home owners.
(Gracie, wonderful news for you!)
jgbama
04-11-2011, 06:41 PM
Some additional insight.......FWIW -
http://www.word-detective.com/2008/07/14/boy-howdy/
Bill :)
Bill, without you, we'd be "deader than a doornail"!! Boy Howdy, don't want to even think of such a thing!:D
katezbox
04-11-2011, 07:30 PM
Gracie - give Helene a big hug for us... That is wonderful news,
Bill-n-Brillo
04-11-2011, 08:14 PM
Bill, without you, we'd be "deader than a doornail"!! Boy Howdy, don't want to even think of such a thing!:D
Ha! I don't know about THAT...but thanks nonetheless! :)
Bill
2BNTV
04-12-2011, 07:57 AM
NO...no no Don't say Goodnight Gracie. I was on here blathering when I was worrying and we just got back from oncologist and Helene's cat scan is O.K.
This is the important follow up one.
Now I will try not to post so much.:D
I am so happy.:highfive:
It's wonderful to hear great news. Everyone's prayers for your family's health and well being were answered.
Keep on posting. I know I enjoy your posts.
skyguy79
04-12-2011, 10:41 AM
It's wonderful to hear great news. Everyone's prayers for your family's health and well being were answered.
Keep on posting. I know I enjoy your posts.Who doesn't enjoy Gracie's posts? If George Burns were still alive, I'd bet he would be reading Gracie's posts, but wouldn't be saying... "Say good night Gracie!" http://th1104.photobucket.com/albums/h330/Robbert_Bapalapashamalamadingdong/th_smiley_cigar.gif (http://media.photobucket.com/image/cigar%20smiley/Robbert_Bapalapashamalamadingdong/smiley_cigar.gif?o=2)
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