Who Are The Conservatives?

[Guest]

I do not tend to pigeonhole people into categories, particularly for the purpose of making my voting decisions. I suspect I may be in the minority in that regard. But I am curious which of the prospective Republican candidates are acceptable to those on this forum who call themselves "conservatives"?

Among those who seem to have begun to campaign for the GOP nomination, who would the conservatives here find acceptable? Which of them could you really get excited about supporting?

Of equal interest, who among them wouldn't be an acceptable "conservative" candidate?

Will conservatives vote for any Republican candidate, even though he might not meet the standards for being adequately conservative? I use John McCain as an example. While he was the GOP candidate, he is now being pilloried for "not being a true conservative". I'm a little lost as to who's who on the Republican side of the upcoming election.

[Guest]

I'll admit that I do not tend to pigeonhole people into categories, particularly for the purpose of making a voting decision. I suspect I may be in the minority in that regard. But I am curious as to which of those who have declared or are expected to declare that they will 'seek the Republican nomination for the Presidency in 2012 are acceptable to those on this forum who call themselves "conservatives"?

Among those who seem to have begun to campaign for the GOP nomination, who would you conservatives find acceptable?

Of equal interest, who among them wouldn't be an acceptable "conservative" candidate for those of you on that side of the political spectrum?

I am a fiscal conservative. I also have many other conservative views. But there are some things I am not conservative about. I support stem cell research.

I do not like Sarah Palin. I am sure she has many good qualities but she is a little too gamey for me and I just don't think she acts like she could lead this country.

[Guest]

Kahuna,

Those that would be acceptable to most of the posters of this forum on the "conservative" side would be the reactionary right to most people.

When the almost sacred name of Ronald Reagan is invoked, these people do not realize that Reagan's speaking ability came from his many years of being a "B reel" movie actor and radio announcer. He conned his way into politics through name recognition. It is very similar to Jesse "The Body" Ventura becoming governor of Minnesota and Al Franken a senator as well as Sonny Bono being a Congressman.

If Francisco Franco or Juan Peron were natural born American citizens (and (of course) changed their names to Americanized versions) these would be acceptable conservatives to a lot of the posters on this forum.

(See what happens when I don't play golf for one day. Luckily, I have tee times for tomorrow and Friday.)

[Guest]

Oh, well I guess Bugs is the expert and I think I'll just let him answer for the conservatives. I don't think I'm going to go for the bait, myself.

[Guest]

Oh, well I guess Bugs is the expert and I think I'll just let him answer for the conservatives. I don't think I'm going to go for the bait, myself.Ahh, non-commital, Richie? In that you haven't chosen a dog for the hunt, it makes it easier to do those drive-by pot shots at whichever candidate seems to be a target of opportunity later on.

C'mon, Richie...who are you backing? Which one of 'em really lights your fire?

I've already stuck my neck out there. It'll be Christie or Bloomberg for me if they throw their hat in the ring. (I'd like to see either of them plus Joe Scarborough on a ticket.) I don't think Romney will pass muster with the religious right even though he's clearly capable. I suppose I could back Pawlenty or Daniels if they don't do or say something stupid. If none of those make it on the ticket, I'll probably vote for Obama again. I don't see any sense in simply witholding my vote in such an important election. And I'd be scared to death to have any of the others actually running the show from the oval office.

Now...how about you?

[Guest]

Ahh, non-commital, Richie? In that you haven't chosen a dog for the hunt, it makes it easier to do those drive-by pot shots at whichever candidate seems to be a target of opportunity later on.

C'mon, Richie...who are you backing? Which one of 'em really lights your fire?

I've already stuck my neck out there. It'll be Christie or Bloomberg for me if they throw their hat in the ring. (I'd like to see either of them plus Joe Scarborough on a ticket.) I don't think Romney will pass muster with the religious right even though he's clearly capable. I suppose I could back Pawlenty or Daniels if they don't do or say something stupid. If none of those make it on the ticket, I'll probably vote for Obama again. I don't see any sense in simply witholding my vote in such an important election. And I'd be scared to death to have any of the others actually running the show from the oval office.

Now...how about you?

The fact that you can say, with a straight face, that you'd like someone with the stature of Christie to run, but that you might vote for Obama AGAIN, makes me discount anything further you have to say on the subject. That's just too Jekyll and Hyde politically, for me.

[Guest]

How's this, ANYONE but Obama. He's dangerous, bad for America, he's anti-American ideals and he makes me actually miss Bill Clinton.

They (the left) can climb on their philosophical soapbox, pretend they are more academic than others, more thoughtful, smarter, manipulate, bait, trick, blame, attack or whatever they wish. Fact is Obama must go and he will. <bookmark it>

[Guest]

VK, you say never vote for an incumbent, but you plan to vote for Obama, if the Repubs nominate a conservative. With the possible exception of Christie everone you mentioned is moderate, at best. The fact that you even mentioned Bloomberg and Scarbough says a lot.

[Guest]

i like bloomberg personally but i did not think he did anything to prevent the mosque being built so close to ground zero, in fact he endorsed it. that is not the kind of material i want in the presidency. i admire newt gingrich and mitt romney, huckabee, palin, pawlenty, alan west, would like to see condeleeza rice back in the picture. there are many people whom i would prefer to four more years of obama's policies. christie would be great but he says he won't run.

[Guest]

Christie, if he'll run. Also, am starting to pay attention to Herman Cain.

[Guest]

i like bloomberg personally but i did not think he did anything to prevent the mosque being built so close to ground zero, in fact he endorsed it. that is not the kind of material i want in the presidency. i admire newt gingrich and mitt romney, huckabee, palin, pawlenty, alan west, would like to see condeleeza rice back in the picture. there are many people whom i would prefer to four more years of obama's policies. christie would be great but he says he won't run.

Think that lightbulb of yours burned out.

[Guest]

Looks like Chacha would really like to see Juan Peron and Francisco Franco's clones be President and Vice President of the USA.

[Guest]

he would be another candidate with a personal agenda to fulfill.
Lawyers, career politicians, wealthy & extremely wealthy or incumbents are not good candidates for America!!

I look forward to ongoing discussions about candidates and remain hopeful that when one or several are discussed their accomplishments are presented that warrant them being QUALIFIED for POTUS!!

A very different approach for both the R & D score keepers!!

btk

[Guest]

i am not familiar with herman cain but have heard many good things about him...he is speaking i believe at mulberry grove on thursday, may 19 but not sure of ticket information...just FYI

[Guest]

Mr. Kahuna

First, all presidential candidates must have a valid birth certificate. I feel so much better that Trump proved Obama is a valid President.:oops:

Secondly, Newt has the experience to be in the oval office but his personal life is a train wreck. But hey, the conservatives will understand and forgive his flaws if they think he has a chance to win.

Thirdly, I may vote for Obama knowing that he is a valid certified American, thanks to Trumps investigation.:confused:

[Guest]

I agree with VK's opening...I will not define myself with one word terms because people and the issues that matter are too complex. I will read, listen and evaluate and when it is time to vote I will vote for the individual I believe best serves "we the people" The only certainty I have now is that Obama never was and never could be that person. In fact he diminshes America.

[Guest]

i am not familiar with herman cain but have heard many good things about him...he is speaking i believe at mulberry grove on thursday, may 19 but not sure of ticket information...just FYI

all these conservatives to speak here, yet never do we have the opportunity to hear a candidate from the other side. Even if you disagree with a candidate, it is nice to be able to listen to other viewpoints.

[Guest]

We need Alan West, Herman Cain, or Chris Christie. Straight-talking men with brains, guts and INTEGRITY.

[Guest]

all these conservatives to speak here, yet never do we have the opportunity to hear a candidate from the other side. Even if you disagree with a candidate, it is nice to be able to listen to other viewpoints.

It looks like weakness in local Democratic party leadership. They are the ones who should bring them to speak.

[Guest]

It looks like weakness in local Democratic party leadership. They are the ones who should bring them to speak.

I'm guessing that you don't know that the Republican Leadership has little to NOTHING to do with all of the Conservative speakers. It's the developer with the deep pockets that bring them here. I heard Beck and O'Reily joking about it on O'Reily's show when he was trying to figure out what Beck was going to do after Fox fired him. Beck said he was aware of the woman to man ratio in The Villages.

Xavier

[Guest]

...i like bloomberg personally but i did not think he did anything to prevent the mosque being built so close to ground zero, in fact he endorsed it....I don't know ChaCha, I don't recall that he endorsed the planned construction of the mosque. I recall that he did endorse the laws and regulations of the State and City of New York. I recall him saying that he thought it wouldn't be wise for the developer to build a Muslim cultural center and mosque that close to the scene of 9-11. But he said that the laws and zoning would permit such a project and that he didn't think the property owner should be subjected to limitations not in the law just because of a religious affiliation.

Heck, Michael Bloomberg is a Jew...why would he defend Muslims other than being consistent with his role as the chief executive of NYC and one with primary responsibility for upholding its laws and regulations?

[Guest]

...Lawyers, career politicians, wealthy & extremely wealthy or incumbents are not good candidates for America!!...
Holy cats! If we eliminated all those categories, would any of those who ran for President in the last half-dozen or so elections have run?

I'm trying to think but I think every single candidate--those that got the nomination as well as those who didn't--all fell into one of those categories or in several cases more than one. I don't think even one of the current group who have been mentioned as possible candidates for the GOP would pass your screen.

[Guest]

GERMANY!!!....Isn't that a hoooot!



Mr. Kahuna

First, all presidential candidates must have a valid birth certificate. I feel so much better that Trump proved Obama is a valid President.:oops:

Secondly, Newt has the experience to be in the oval office but his personal life is a train wreck. But hey, the conservatives will understand and forgive his flaws if they think he has a chance to win.

Thirdly, I may vote for Obama knowing that he is a valid certified American, thanks to Trumps investigation.:confused:

[Guest]

FYI, Gingrich was born in GERMANY!!!....Isn't that a hoooot!

Where did you come up with that one? Since when is Harristown Pennsylvania in Germany. I'm pretty sure is just west of New Jersey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich

[Guest]

I was sure that they said that on the tube last night.....Should have done my research!....Both of us were watching some show on tube, wish I could remember, and we could not believe what we heard, "How could that be, Speaker of the House"....Bad bad bad, should have checked this out, must have had brain fart!



Where did you come up with that one? Since when is Harristown Pennsylvania in Germany. I'm pretty sure is just west of New Jersey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich

[Guest]

I was sure that they said that on the tube last night.....Should have done my research!....Both of us were watching some show on tube, wish I could remember, and we could not believe what we heard, "How could that be, Speaker of the House"....Bad bad bad, should have checked this out, must have had brain fart!

Happens to the best of us.