And she could have been our Vice President

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According to Sarah...." The Americans are waiting, The Americans are ready" Paul Revere cried, warning the British.
Richie, wonder what she would have scored on your civic literacty exam? :doh:

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Oops...spelled literacy wrong. I imajin you'll jump all over that. :doh:

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According to Sarah...." The Americans are waiting, The Americans are ready" Paul Revere cried, warning the British.
Richie, wonder what she would have scored on your civic literacty exam? :doh:

Actually, it's a funny thing. Sarah Palin was correct, and what we were taught in elementary school was a bit of patriotic theatre.

I didn't know this bit of history of this often told tale of our strive for independence, and you will learn something as I have.

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/06/so-now-all-these-people-will-apologize.html

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Actually, it's a funny thing. Sarah Palin was correct, and what we were taught in elementary school was a bit of patriotic theatre.

I didn't know this bit of history of this often told tale of our strive for independence, and you will learn something as I have.

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/06/so-now-all-these-people-will-apologize.html

That may very well be true...but I'm not buying that Sarah had any clue about the part of the history. :doh:

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That may very well be true...but I'm not buying that Sarah had any clue about the part of the history. :doh:

Nor did you have any clue .. does that make you illiterate ?
I don't think so.
JJ

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It's pretty amazing the lengths people will go to explain away Palin's cluelessness. A complete self-consistent (or not self-consistent) alternate universe does not have to be created. Sometimes the simple explanation is the correct explanation: the woman is just stupid. Nothing more, nothing less.

It is true that the commonly believed account of Paul Revere leaves something to be desired, being based more on Longfellow's poem than actual events. But this still doesn't justify the elaborate explanations for Palin.

As an aside, the George Washington cherry tree story is also highly suspect. I hope that doesn't shatter too many people's belief systems.

It amazes me that starting with the last election, the left chose to attack Palin by calling her stupid..
Now that she has made millions, overshadowed all of the other candidates including Obama and Romney, they are calling her shrewd and clever to describe how she has made millions, and can take over the national stage any time she wants to. Some even have the timidity to say it is because of her "looks" and she is an "attractive" candidate. The stupid approach is out.. you need to get on the new liberal talking points.. she is a greedy "attractive" megalomaniac who uses her "looks" to get attention and she is only in it for the publicity and the money!
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It is also interesting that now that Palin's popularity is growing, that she has proven she can garner crowds and attention any time she wants to, the left is now saying what a strong candidate ROMNEY would be against President Obama. If they really wanted Palin to run as they always claimed, they would be saying.. see how popular and the crowds she can gather.. she can overshadow even the President and Romney.. she is the one that has the best chance against our President..
They are afraid of her and so should the Republican party. She really is the only person who can beat Obama. Her negatives are high because most people believe the bs the media puts out.. like about paul revere.... If they were willing to point out that on youtube you can watch our INTELLIGENT President say there are 58 states in America, and that when speaking publicly about our deceased Corpsman, he repeatedly in multiple speeches pronounces them as CORPSE MEN.. the public just might forget bloopers by all politicians and focus on the issues.. and if they do.. Palin will win the next election easily. The economy is going to crash and Obama is going to deservedly get the blame for making it worse with his big government, bailout, money printing, union payoff, welfare, philosophy.
JJ

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It's pretty amazing the lengths people will go to explain away Palin's cluelessness. A complete self-consistent (or not self-consistent) alternate universe does not have to be created. Sometimes the simple explanation is the correct explanation: the woman is just stupid. Nothing more, nothing less.

It is true that the commonly believed account of Paul Revere leaves something to be desired, being based more on Longfellow's poem than actual events. But this still doesn't justify the elaborate explanations for Palin.

As an aside, the George Washington cherry tree story is also highly suspect. I hope that doesn't shatter too many people's belief systems.

The lengths that people will go has been artfully demonstrated by you. Ms. Palin knew the actual history of an event that you (and I) only knew the fable and, of course, she is "still clueless" and your are .................... what?

She knew the historical facts and you only knew the fable, but that reality is an "elaborate explanation". You gotta know how stupid that sounds.

How about "I'm sorry Gov. Palin, I was wrong and I apologize". C'mon you'll feel better about yourself.

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It is also interesting that now that Palin's popularity is growing, that she has proven she can garner crowds and attention any time she wants to, the left is now saying what a strong candidate ROMNEY would be against President Obama. If they really wanted Palin to run as they always claimed, they would be saying.. see how popular and the crowds she can gather.. she can overshadow even the President and Romney.. she is the one that has the best chance against our President..
They are afraid of her and so should the Republican party. She really is the only person who can beat Obama. Her negatives are high because most people believe the bs the media puts out.. like about paul revere.... If they were willing to point out that on youtube you can watch our INTELLIGENT President say there are 58 states in America, and that when speaking publicly about our deceased Corpsman, he repeatedly in multiple speeches pronounces them as CORPSE MEN.. the public just might forget bloopers by all politicians and focus on the issues.. and if they do.. Palin will win the next election easily. The economy is going to crash and Obama is going to deservedly get the blame for making it worse with his big government, bailout, money printing, union payoff, welfare, philosophy.
JJ

JJAnd that liberal media you are talking about are crying foul because Palin did not give them an advanced notice of her bus trip and they cried that trying to keep up with her was causing near accidents and that they were treated like paparazziHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm who is stupid now and why is the liberal media so upset that they can't get the coverage they covet for this stupid stupid woman.

bottom line she has bigger you know what than most male candidates running an especially the incumbent.

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It amazes me that starting with the last election, the left chose to attack Palin by calling her stupid..
Some even have the timidity to say it is because of her "looks" and she is an "attractive" candidate. The stupid approach is out.. you need to get on the new liberal talking points.. she is a greedy "attractive" megalomaniac who uses her "looks" to get attention and she is only in it for the publicity and the money!
jj

Do they also have the temerity to say it is because of her looks? BTW, Palin is a total idiot, a quitter and not qualified to be elected dog catcher. She couldn't even remember VP Biden's last name during their debate in 2008. That's why she asked him at the outset if it was ok for her to call him Joe. I'd pay money to see a Republican party debate between Palin and Bachman. Wonder what the over/under would be on historical misrepresentations? One of my favorites was the one about how the founding fathers ended slavery.

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JJAnd that liberal media you are talking about are crying foul because Palin did not give them an advanced notice of her bus trip and they cried that trying to keep up with her was causing near accidents and that they were treated like paparazziHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm who is stupid now and why is the liberal media so upset that they can't get the coverage they covet for this stupid stupid woman.

bottom line she has bigger you know what than most male candidates running an especially the incumbent.

VERY good points. One more.. and they still refuse to say that the reason they cover her is because she is popular.
JJ

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Since when does popularity equate with intelligence in America? Think about who was popular in high school. Palin may be popular but she is dumb as a rock.

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She could have been VP, but isn't. Just remember who is now a heartbeat away from the job and up until the last Election who was next in line after Joe Biden.

If that doesn't trouble you, remember the other candidate who was a darling of many Liberals, who could have become President...........drum roll please, why it's John Edwards.

So if you want to go after Mrs. Pallin, remember who we got stuck with or could have.

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I heard a great quote that I think was by George Will. He said there are two infinites in the world; the ever expanding universe, and the media's obsession with Sarah Palin; and she plays them like a fiddle.

Gov. Palin says she owes the liberal media nothing, and on her bus tour, that's exactly what she's giving them. Then they have the cojones to say she is creating a dangerous situation because they are forced to chase her like paparazzi. How about just not following her. They can't; because she is the story no matter what she does. This is what is causing the fear in her detractors. It like what was pointed out earlier in this thread. If Gov. Palin is so beatable, why aren't her opponents pointing out what an attractive candidate she is?

They're trying to sucker us into voting Romney in the primary because he is the one who is eminently beatable with RomneyCare, his favoring of ethanol subsidies, and now his stated belief in man made global warming. He's the John McCain of 2011 and that is why the liberal media is stroking him.

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Keith Olbermann's most famous quote, and one I subscribe to "That woman is an idiot"

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Mr. Olbermann is where now and doing what?

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Libs know Obama is going to get wiped out in the next election so they just sling mud in all directions hoping something will stick. I know, it's lame but that's what they do.

They just can't come to terms with their miserable failure of a President. Never before have we had such an anti-America President and they just can't see it... or don't want too.

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Keith Olbermann's most famous quote, and one I subscribe to "That woman is an idiot"

I agree. She is a quitter. When things got a little hot in Alaska, she resigned. Whether it was for political reasons or she wanted to make the big bucks while she could...she quit as Governor. That shows great lack of character in my opinion.

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I agree. She is a quitter. When things got a little hot in Alaska, she resigned. Whether it was for political reasons or she wanted to make the big bucks while she could...she quit as Governor. That shows great lack of character in my opinion.

If she had stayed Governor, would we be talking about her right now and would she be a multi millionaire? That does not sound like a move made by a stupid person.
JJ

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Libs know Obama is going to get wiped out in the next election so they just sling mud in all directions hoping something will stick. I know, it's lame but that's what they do.

They just can't come to terms with their miserable failure of a President. Never before have we had such an anti-America President and they just can't see it... or don't want too.

Did you take your medication today? :doh:

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Do they also have the temerity to say it is because of her looks? BTW, Palin is a total idiot, a quitter and not qualified to be elected dog catcher. She couldn't even remember VP Biden's last name during their debate in 2008. That's why she asked him at the outset if it was ok for her to call him Joe. I'd pay money to see a Republican party debate between Palin and Bachman. Wonder what the over/under would be on historical misrepresentations? One of my favorites was the one about how the founding fathers ended slavery.

Guess I am stupid too because liberals never make mistakes like clicking on the wrong spell check line.
JJ

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I agree. She is a quitter. When things got a little hot in Alaska, she resigned. Whether it was for political reasons or she wanted to make the big bucks while she could...she quit as Governor. That shows great lack of character in my opinion.

All you're believing is the liberal media spin on her stepping down as Governor and that's probably due to a bias against the woman that you have.

In Alaska anyone and everyone can file an ethics complaint against the governor and hundreds of liberal activists, and other people, who have Sarah Palin derangement syndrome like you and Dale and Actor and Bugs, did. She was obligated, by law, to answer these frivolous complaints, of which none bore fruit, and spend many thousands of dollars doing so, and it completely took over her life in the Governor's mansion.

So, in the state's best interests and the best interests of her and her family she decided to step down rather that play that game. Did it destroy her? Heck no; she's bigger and more powerful and influential than ever, and that's just eating your craw, isn't it.

There's no political figure in the country who has more influence than the former governor of Alaska. Ain't that a kick?

I know you and the other haters will tear into my conclusions, but it doesn't bother me one bit. You betcha!!

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All you're believing is the liberal media spin on her stepping down as Governor and that's probably due to a bias against the woman that you have.

In Alaska anyone and everyone can file an ethics complaint against the governor and hundreds of liberal activists, and other people, who have Sarah Palin derangement syndrome like you and Dale and Actor and Bugs, did. She was obligated, by law, to answer these frivolous complaints, of which none bore fruit, and spend many thousands of dollars doing so, and it completely took over her life in the Governor's mansion.

So, in the state's best interests and the best interests of her and her family she decided to step down rather that play that game. Did it destroy her? Heck no; she's bigger and more powerful and influential than ever, and that's just eating your craw, isn't it.

There's no political figure in the country who has more influence than the former governor of Alaska. Ain't that a kick?

I know you and the other haters will tear into my conclusions, but it doesn't bother me one bit. You betcha!!

You betcha, by golly! Sarah Palin is powerful and influential but to just a small minority of folks. Lord knows why they consider her a leader and anyone with any notion of how lead or govern. Personally, I think she is dumb like a fox and laughing all the way to the bank, really not caring one way or the other what happens to this great country of ours. :doh:

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Sarah Palin is everything that is wrong with America. She is an anti-intellectual soundbite who says nothing of substance. She is not very smart and proud of it. Her description of Reveres' ride is a disgrace and can only be defended by other anti-intellectuals.

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Oops...spelled literacy wrong. I imajin you'll jump all over that. :doh:

Do we eben haf spelink poleicez stil ? I hain't bin tur apard by no Anal Retentive spelink turds in a longue tyme.

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Richie,

I had not even posted on this thread and you name me as a Caribou Barbie trasher. What gives?

Hope to see you Monday night at Urban Flats. Hope the Yeungling is ice-cold.

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I had heard that there were not very many lefty loonies in TV. I guess not all info is correct.

C

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Richie,

I had not even posted on this thread and you name me as a Caribou Barbie trasher. What gives?

Hope to see you Monday night at Urban Flats. Hope the Yeungling is ice-cold.

I couldn't leave you out bro; it wouldn't have been fair; and with your Caribou Barbie reference, you know I'm right in including you. If nothing else, I'm thinking of you.

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You betcha, by golly! Sarah Palin is powerful and influential but to just a small minority of folks. Lord knows why they consider her a leader and anyone with any notion of how lead or govern. Personally, I think she is dumb like a fox and laughing all the way to the bank, really not caring one way or the other what happens to this great country of ours. :doh:

Small minority? She was the king maker in the mid-term elections; you betcha. She will be more influential this time around. Get used to see her every time you look around and see your liberal media heros bumping each other out of the way to get close to her. It's a crazy world Dale, and you ain't seen nothin' yet.

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I had heard that there were not very many lefty loonies in TV. I guess not all info is correct.

C

You better watch out - we "lefties" live next door or maybe across the street. There are more of us than you think and our numbers are growing every day. You probably waited in line at Publix with one right in front of you, but don't worry - intelligence is not contagious!

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:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Popcorn anyone

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You better watch out - we "lefties" live next door or maybe across the street. There are more of us than you think and our numbers are growing every day. You probably waited in line at Publix with one right in front of you, but don't worry - intelligence is not contagious!

I am not a leftie and I am not an extreme rightie. I guess I am a moderate, but my trouble with Sarah Palin is not that she isn't smart, but that she seems too impulsive and I feel she isn't very polished, for lack of better words.

Everyone is entitled to her own opinion, but I wouldn't choose her as a close friend. I think she has guts. I think she has her own style, but she is not speaking to me, or pushing my right buttons.

I don't think she is quite old enough to have aquired enough life knowledge. I think her family is kind of at sixes and sevens. We have raised a mentally challenged child and know what time and dedication that job is all on it's own.

It can be argued that none of these things can or should be considered as a detriment to running for the highest office in the country, but it is a detriment to me.

All votes matter. All voters matter.

Oh boy, here I am in political again.

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I've said it before, I don't hate Palin. I just think she's ill-suited to the task oif anything of real substance. I've repeatedly given a list of reasons why I'm no fan of her (except for some respect for her business acumen). I mean, some people make fun of her bus tour and how an "unemplyed woman" can get people to fund her PAC so she can take her kids on a cross-country vacation. And, apparently that *IS* legal since she has NOT formally declared herself as a candidate. But other things..

Complaining that the media won't let her alone - while travelling in a shrink-wrapped bus DESIGNED to get attention.

Saying it's not for publicity. That's the biggest example of clulessness or being disingenuous I've seen in a while.

Her comments on Paul Revere - since when was he firing shots and ringing bells? I mean, if you want to position the ride as a colonial referendum on gun guntrol, can you at least get your facts straight? Hint: Dawes and Prescott did far more and can we finally tell people that WE WERE BRITISH AT THE TIME! (The cry could have been 'the Regulars are coming' - meaning the British Regular troops, the army. Saying "The British are coming" would be like someone in a compound saying "The Americans are coming" as opposed to "The Cops are coming!"

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When we have a President who cannot speak in a way that shows real intelligence unless he is reading his text verbatim from a teleprompter, and he often flubs even that, it's really absurd to criticize others as not being Presidential caliber. How much more dopey can you look than our present President with his many, though under-publicized, to put it nicely, gaffes and in speaking and acting in his appearances.

Also you'll see, if you take the time, his insulting comments to some of our staunchest allies.

I'll just list a few links to show what I mean. I could list many more. But those who are deeply in love with Obama will never be able to sit through these that I've already linked.

Bush and Palin would have been roundly skewered for any of these examples.

http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/2011/01/28/obama-gaffes-confuses-iraq-with-afghanistan/

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/05/obama-britain-gaffe-queen-elizabeth.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8oXw4FJF8g&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4-AKcH3eC8&feature=player_embedded

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I've said it before, I don't hate Palin. I just think she's ill-suited to the task oif anything of real substance. I've repeatedly given a list of reasons why I'm no fan of her (except for some respect for her business acumen). I mean, some people make fun of her bus tour and how an "unemplyed woman" can get people to fund her PAC so she can take her kids on a cross-country vacation. And, apparently that *IS* legal since she has NOT formally declared herself as a candidate. But other things..

Complaining that the media won't let her alone - while travelling in a shrink-wrapped bus DESIGNED to get attention.

Saying it's not for publicity. That's the biggest example of clulessness or being disingenuous I've seen in a while.

Her comments on Paul Revere - since when was he firing shots and ringing bells? I mean, if you want to position the ride as a colonial referendum on gun guntrol, can you at least get your facts straight? Hint: Dawes and Prescott did far more and can we finally tell people that WE WERE BRITISH AT THE TIME! (The cry could have been 'the Regulars are coming' - meaning the British Regular troops, the army. Saying "The British are coming" would be like someone in a compound saying "The Americans are coming" as opposed to "The Cops are coming!"

Did you read the link I posted and maybe then do your own research if you didn't trust the authors printed excerpts from historical records?

Somehow I don't think so.

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When we have a President who cannot speak in a way that shows real intelligence unless he is reading his text verbatim from a teleprompter, and he often flubs even that, it's really absurd to criticize others as not being Presidential caliber. How much more dopey can you look than our present President with his many, though under-publicized, to put it nicely, gaffes and in speaking and acting in his appearances.

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There you are with the teleprompter criticism again. Frankly, Richie, I thought you were above such tiresome and, candidly, stupid beliefs. :doh:

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There you are with the teleprompter criticism again. Frankly, Richie, I thought you were above such tiresome and, candidly, stupid beliefs. :doh:

that he can't think in an objective manner when it comes to president Obama. He faults Obama's ability to present ideas intelligently, yet he worships GWB who had problems stringing two coherent sentences together. Look back at his posts after we got Bin Laden, and you can clearly see that he was angry that it was Obama that got him. I'm sure that deep down he would rather have Bin Laden still around than have Obama get any credit for his death.

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Very predictable and very pathetic responses from 2 that I expect no more from.

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Very predictable and very pathetic responses from 2 that I expect no more from.

you can't come up with a response, you resort to dismissing others as predictable, etc.

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you can't come up with a response, you resort to dismissing others as predictable, etc.

My response was above. I don't have to say much more. Let me make it clear. The President is a terrible speaker unless he's reading a script, and maybe one of the worst I've ever seen. There's, no one, with the exception of Joe Biden, who is as flawed in thinking on their feet.

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Now for the real history of Good Ole Paul.

"Gather around and I will tell you a tell of the midnight ride of Paul Revere;"
"He jump in his car, tromped on the gas and fell on his ***."

That is the true story. LMAOROTF at this thread. She has not even announced yet. Just wait until the field is full, then have this discussion.

As for being left or right, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land for both sides. Read it, learn what is says and if "your" elected representative is not following that document. Get rid of him/her at the next election or do a recall.

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Very predictable and very pathetic responses from 2 that I expect no more from.

Predictable yes, pathetic, I think not. :doh:

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Sarah Palin wouldn't know a gaffe unless it was sticking in fish. :wave:

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Make fun all you want, but the fact is that Gov. Palin is not scared to engage the media as is your savior, "The One", the inimitable President Barack Hussein Obama, who would erupt in a thousand "uhh's" if he had to speak "off the cuff".

Even in this article by CNN, who also didn't know the true historical account of the Paul Revere ride that only Gov. Pain seemed to know, they have to give her credit for that.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/04/palin.tour/

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It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err.

Mahatma Gandhi

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All you're believing is the liberal media spin on her stepping down as Governor and that's probably due to a bias against the woman that you have.

In Alaska anyone and everyone can file an ethics complaint against the governor and hundreds of liberal activists, and other people, who have Sarah Palin derangement syndrome like you and Dale and Actor and Bugs, did. She was obligated, by law, to answer these frivolous complaints, of which none bore fruit, and spend many thousands of dollars doing so, and it completely took over her life in the Governor's mansion.

So, in the state's best interests and the best interests of her and her family she decided to step down rather that play that game. Did it destroy her? Heck no; she's bigger and more powerful and influential than ever, and that's just eating your craw, isn't it.

There's no political figure in the country who has more influence than the former governor of Alaska. Ain't that a kick?

I know you and the other haters will tear into my conclusions, but it doesn't bother me one bit. You betcha!!


She thinks it would be easier if she became president? How delusional are you sir? She is a quitter..things got tough and she bailed. And nothing is eating my craw..I am aware enough to know that most of these political posts are rants that have no real meaning or effect other then for you to hear your own words, again and again and again and again and always the same thing....boring. And let's make this really an interesting experiment..can you keep yourself from responding to this?

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Sarah Palin wouldn't know a gaffe unless it was sticking in fish. :wave:

DaleMN, yes she would she from alaska where they return back 25 pounders so they can grow to 75 pounders. Also she can skin a moose. You know what else she can do. she can leave the liberal media in acloud of dust along I-95. She can be a governor, a wife, aMom and a friend. she can say she does not believe in abortion and prove it. She can say she is a proud american and a ood christian and people believe her. she can show her suppport for our troops and count her son among them. she can inspire crowds and draw them bigger than Bono. As I am writing this she is being interviewed by Chris Wallace. she is doing an excellent job. why because she is direct and gets to the point .

I agree with Graciegirl in some respects. Sarah needs to lose the cutsie thing and begin to have people take her seriously. I would vote for her if she does the work that she needs to do to show she is a serious candidate.

It is apparent that the liberals are afraid of her.

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America should be afraid of her.

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america should be afraid of her.

amen!

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She thinks it would be easier if she became president? How delusional are you sir? She is a quitter..things got tough and she bailed. And nothing is eating my craw..I am aware enough to know that most of these political posts are rants that have no real meaning or effect other then for you to hear your own words, again and again and again and again and always the same thing....boring. And let's make this really an interesting experiment..can you keep yourself from responding to this?

You call me a delusional person who just rants and say things with no real meaning over and over, and then you think I won't respond? You're the delusional one here LadyDoc.

Keep your high mindedness to yourself. This post does not impress me.

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America should be afraid of her.

Only liberal democrats.

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You call me a delusional person who just rants and say things with no real meaning over and over, and then you think I won't respond? You're the delusional one here LadyDoc.

Keep your high mindedness to yourself. This post does not impress me.

AND there it is...experiment failed, as I knew it would.

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AND there it is...experiment failed, as I knew it would.

When you strike me, don't expect to leave unscathed. I don't play by your rules, sorry.

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America should be afraid of her.

Waynet my apology> I meant to say liberals fear her As for the rest of America there just laughing at Obama's performance or the lack thereof. I mean the best decisions he has made had to do with the vacation spots he picked for he and his family. One could make a comparison of Nero fiddling while Rome burns to America's dismissal lack of respect from foreign countries, a $4 trillion dollaraccumulated debt in just the last two years......heck why go on? even the liberal media can't ignore it anymore...

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Waynet my apology> I meant to say liberals fear her As for the rest of America there just laughing at Obama's performance or the lack thereof. I mean the best decisions he has made had to do with the vacation spots he picked for he and his family. One could make a comparison of Nero fiddling while Rome burns to America's dismissal lack of respect from foreign countries, a $4 trillion dollaraccumulated debt in just the last two years......heck why go on? even the liberal media can't ignore it anymore...

Sarah actually thought Nero fiddled while Sherman marched through Atlanta...or was it Paul Revere. :doh:

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Sarah actually thought Nero fiddled while Sherman marched through Atlanta...or was it Paul Revere. :doh:

I want to see you say you are happy with the actions of President Obama, and consequences of those actions.

Then I want you to say you are glad we are 14.4 Trillion in debt and had a 1.65 trillion deficit this year, and his budget proposal adds 10 trillion in the next 10 years.

I want you to say you are glad they used QE 1 and 2 to reduce the value of your savings.

I want you to say you are glad he got us into the war in Libya, he complied with the war powers act by notifying congress, but now has violated that law by not getting permission to continue that war.

I want you to say you are happy he passed a health care law that requires you to buy his insurance and they you must accept the decisions of the government of what medical care you will and will not get.

JJ

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I want to see you say you are happy with the actions of President Obama, and consequences of those actions.

Then I want you to say you are glad we are 14.4 Trillion in debt and had a 1.65 trillion deficit this year, and his budget proposal adds 10 trillion in the next 10 years.

I want you to say you are glad they used QE 1 and 2 to reduce the value of your savings.

I want you to say you are glad he got us into the war in Libya, he complied with the war powers act by notifying congress, but now has violated that law by not getting permission to continue that war.

I want you to say you are happy he passed a health care law that requires you to buy his insurance and they you must accept the decisions of the government of what medical care you will and will not get.

JJ

and Bush isn't. Obama was left with a colossal mess by his predecessor, and nothing you can say will change that fact.

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I want to see you say you are happy with the actions of President Obama, and consequences of those actions.

Then I want you to say you are glad we are 14.4 Trillion in debt and had a 1.65 trillion deficit this year, and his budget proposal adds 10 trillion in the next 10 years.

I want you to say you are glad they used QE 1 and 2 to reduce the value of your savings.

I want you to say you are glad he got us into the war in Libya, he complied with the war powers act by notifying congress, but now has violated that law by not getting permission to continue that war.

I want you to say you are happy he passed a health care law that requires you to buy his insurance and they you must accept the decisions of the government of what medical care you will and will not get.

JJ

I am happy with most of the actions President Obama has taken.
I am not happy about the deficit but to blame Obama for that is ridiculous.
I am extremely happy about the health care law.
I am never happy about war.
And your point is? :doh:

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I am happy with most of the actions President Obama has taken.
I am not happy about the deficit but to blame Obama for that is ridiculous.
I am extremely happy about the health care law.
I am never happy about war.
And your point is? :doh:

My point is exactly your non answer.
Most of his actions?
Who do you think has run the deficit up TRILLIONS in the last 2 and a half years and whos proposal will add 10 trillion PROBABLY A LOT MORE.. in the next 10 years?
health care?? what about when they make the choices of what care you get for you? When they say the gov health care does not cover that care for a person in your position.. wont you really wish you had the opportunity to choose to buy the health care that would cover it?
War? so you dont agree with Obama? He has continued Afghanistan, and Iraq, and started a new war in Libya.
Home prices are headed DOWN.
Unemployment is headed DOWN.
He has devalued the dollar INTENTIONALLY destroying the value of our personal savings.
The economy is slowing.
The only reason we had a temporary "recovery" was he ran up a huge deficit throwing borrowed money out of helicopters.. ( it would have worked better if he had done it that way.). Now that the free money has ran out, we are destined for economic decline. If they find a way to throw more borrowed money out of helicopters, it will only delay the inevitable and make it that much worse.
Don't you really see that?
JJ

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I wonder how much the historically challenged human sound bite is going to rake in before she announces she is not going to run?

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You got that right, Wayne. Sarah can make money hand over fist from duping these wing-nuts into thinking she is Mother Theresa in a grizzly bear suit with lipstick.

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You got that right, Wayne. Sarah can make money hand over fist from duping these wing-nuts into thinking she is Mother Theresa in a grizzly bear suit with lipstick.

I am so glad to hear liberals are sticking with their name calling. You will not win the next election name calling. Name calling is a symptom of no class and no winning arguments.
JJ

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I am so glad to hear liberals are sticking with their name calling. You will not win the next election name calling. Name calling is a symptom of no class and no winning arguments.
JJ

All they got JimJoe, it's all they got.

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I am so glad to hear liberals are sticking with their name calling. You will not win the next election name calling. Name calling is a symptom of no class and no winning arguments.
JJ

JimJoe, JimJoe, na na na na na na. :doh:

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Getting back to the first post and topic of this thread, turns out Sarah's comments were correct. Not only did she's defend her comments over the weekend, historians looked into the issue and turns out what she was talking about was absolutely correct.

"Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there. That, hey, you're not going to succeed. You're not going to take American arms. You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have," she added. "He did warn the British."

Paul Revere even wrote about it himself.

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Getting back to the first post and topic of this thread, turns out Sarah's comments were correct. Not only did she's defend her comments over the weekend, historians looked into the issue and turns out what she was talking about was absolutely correct.

"Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there. That, hey, you're not going to succeed. You're not going to take American arms. You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have," she added. "He did warn the British"

Yep...."with bells and shots".......and bullhorn as he drove his Range Rover through Boston. That's what I heard she said. :doh:

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Given you started the thread, I think it's funny she knows more about American history than you do.

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Given you started the thread, I think it's funny she knows more about American history than you do.

Yeah.....she's a real Gordon S. Wood....not.

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dk,just not true....revisionist history again!

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Waynet. Prove it or stop perpetuating a lie.

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Waynet. Prove it or stop perpetuating a lie.

Easy for you to just throw crap out and then when people dispute you...."prove it, prove it" :doh:

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JimJoe, JimJoe, na na na na na na. :doh:

Nice reply. Please post additional intelligent responses.
JJ

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Why don't some of you people just admit it and move on. You were wrong, you did no research and you don't care that you were wrong. Nothing more than a continued smear campaign by the left that again turns out to be a big fat pathetic lie.

So how was it that Palin got it right and just about everyone else got it wrong about Paul Revere and his famous ride? Most peoples' knowledge about Revere begins and ends with the famous Longfellow poem, which somewhat fudged the actual history of the ride that night in 1775. Palin either has actually cracked open a book or, just as likely, was paying attention to the lecture visitors get when they go to Paul Revere's home, unlike her critics.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110605/us_ac/8588011_how_sarah_palin_got_it_right_about_paul_re vere_warning_the_british_1

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Easy for you to just throw crap out and then when people dispute you...."prove it, prove it" :doh:

OK, all you dunderheads acting like children. Would you believe that Gov. Palin was correct if you heard it directly from Paul Revere himself in his own words?

Is that enough for you?

http://www.masshist.org/database/img-viewer.php?item_id=99&img_step=1&tpc=&pid=&mode=transcript&tpc=&pid=#page1


Maybe these historians can convince you that Gov. Palin's knowledge of American history eclipses yours. Of course, there are a few historians who just can't believe the scholarship of Gov. Palin and figures she must have been lucky to get this unknown little piece of history correct. They're dunderheads like you.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/2011_0606you_betcha_she_was_right_experts_back_pal ins_historical_account/

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http://www.christianstogether.net/Images/content/658/372497.jpg

A picture is worth a thousand words. Thanks for the smile.

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Nice reply. Please post additional intelligent responses.
JJ

Na Na Na...Na Na Na...that smart enough for you? :doh:

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Na Na Na...Na Na Na...that smart enough for you? :doh:

You are making so much progress in convincing everyone that you are a mature, intelligent, supporter of the wonderful policies of the President. Please keep it up. I am sure the voters will carefully consider your views and be convinced by your behavior.
JJ

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It's no wonder Obama got elected.

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Lassen,

You should have taken advice from Richard Daley, Sr, who encouraged his followers to vote early and often.

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I'm starting to get embarrassed for some people in this post and I think the truth on this subject is fairly obvious so for me I'm out of this one.

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It leaves me speechless how some can continue to support and defend Obama when it is clear that his economic policies have failed miserably, his foreign policy has made enemies of our friends and friends of our enemies. and that he is indecisive, and we are becoming the laughing stock of the world. Man I just don't get it. I wonder if those folks would believe that 120 is a good golf score? Because as an anology that is abut how you can score Obama's performance. by the way Howard Dean has made it clear that if she bcomes the Republican candidate Sarah Palin will beat Obama. He also said essentially that any Republican candidate can beat Obama.

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I had heard that there were not very many lefty loonies in TV. I guess not all info is correct.

C

Ever notice how many of the lib who post on this board don't live in The Villages and never have?

Something tells me that they are networking, with a concerted effort to hit this area. There has been many instances nationally of certain politicians being welcome here. They know that this growing community is mostly conservative, and that happening in such a key state as Florida, is just eating at their agenda.

Watch out, that next senate seat is up for grabs.

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Ever notice how many of the lib who post on this board don't live in The Villages and never have?

Something tells me that they are networking, with a concerted effort to hit this area. There has been many instances nationally of certain politicians being welcome here. They know that this growing community is mostly conservative, and that happening in such a key state as Florida, is just eating at their agenda.

Watch out, that next senate seat is up for grabs.

If you ever are able to confirm that...leave me know..that will bring me back to this forum. I never was aware of the networking thing....and frankly never checked to see how many posters actually live here.

I still read and the never ending immature smart little wisecracks still continue...notice that nobody responds to issue based posts...only those that, in some way, can criticize a person and take them down or pass judgement on them.

Nobody responding to the thread on Libya since it would not be easy to simply lob stones at some individual that these folks like to pass judgement on !

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Sarah Palin got LUCKY.

Go ahead and read Revere's writings. Yeah, he told the authorities about his ride. He told them AFTER he was captured and AT THE POINT OF A GUN.

Yeah, it's a bit of a sticking point with me when everyone knows Revere but know nothing about Prescott and Dawes. Heck, right outside where I work there's a sign pointing to the "Revere Capture Site". (Hanscom AFB is right on the "Battle Road", as it came to be known)

His INTENT was to NEVER be captured. He basically tried to BLUFF the British because, at the time, he had no idea whether or not his partners got their message through.

I noticed how the Palin apologists are concentrating on the parts of her statements that are *technically* correct while ignoring the context and the parts that weren't true at all.

It's my OPINION that Sarah was trying to frame the famous ride as a gun control statment. The REASON that I have that OPINION is because of the somewhat famous scene from her reality show where she tried to link gun control to actions of "mama bears" concerning their cubs.

I mean, lets be real here. Revere was NOT in the business of warning the Regulars. If they WERE then WHY was the whole North Church part of the deal so secret? Why were they trying to EVADE Redcoat patrols.

Just to be sure, here's the quote:

"He who warned uh, the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed."


Ringing those bells? (My guess it's confusion about the lanterns in the Old North Church)

Riding his horse through town? He barely started before he was captured and they stayed AWAY from town centers so they would be less conspicuous.

His bluff, at gunpoint, was that the citizens were armed - BUT THE SOLDIERS ALREADY KNEW THAT. The whole reason for the Regulars coming were to seize munitions that were rumored to be stored at certain places in Lexington, Concord and other towns.

The reaction is incredible. Apparently, Palin fans have been trying to edit Wikipedia to 'retcon' Palin's view into their account of Revere.
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/sarah-palins-gaffe-about-paul-revere-ca

Back in March, Michelle Bachman REPEATED Palin's gaffe as far as knowing WHERE Lexington and Concord were:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/12/michele-bachmann-revolutionary-history_n_834906.html

Palin is manna from heaven for comedians. The GOP needs someone as charismatic as she can be but who is known for actually DOING things and has a head on their shoulders.

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You are making so much progress in convincing everyone that you are a mature, intelligent, supporter of the wonderful policies of the President. Please keep it up. I am sure the voters will carefully consider your views and be convinced by your behavior.
JJ

On the contrary JJ.....I'm simply a buffoon. :doh:

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It's no wonder Obama got elected.

And hopefully re-elected. :wave:

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Ever notice how many of the lib who post on this board don't live in The Villages and never have?

Something tells me that they are networking, with a concerted effort to hit this area. There has been many instances nationally of certain politicians being welcome here. They know that this growing community is mostly conservative, and that happening in such a key state as Florida, is just eating at their agenda.

Watch out, that next senate seat is up for grabs.

Let's see....dklassen from TN, JimJoe from Iowa, Figmo not in Villages yet....Blue Heron and rubicon outer space... what righties are posting from the bubble?

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Palin supporters caught trying to edit Reveres Wikipedia page. Not surprising.What is surprising is the ridiculous notion that she knows what she is talking about. I've watched her answer a dozen times and there is no doubt she has no idea what she is talking about,none.

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Sarah Palin got LUCKY.

Go ahead and read Revere's writings. Yeah, he told the authorities about his ride. He told them AFTER he was captured and AT THE POINT OF A GUN.

Yeah, it's a bit of a sticking point with me when everyone knows Revere but know nothing about Prescott and Dawes. Heck, right outside where I work there's a sign pointing to the "Revere Capture Site". (Hanscom AFB is right on the "Battle Road", as it came to be known)

His INTENT was to NEVER be captured. He basically tried to BLUFF the British because, at the time, he had no idea whether or not his partners got their message through.

I noticed how the Palin apologists are concentrating on the parts of her statements that are *technically* correct while ignoring the context and the parts that weren't true at all.

It's my OPINION that Sarah was trying to frame the famous ride as a gun control statment. The REASON that I have that OPINION is because of the somewhat famous scene from her reality show where she tried to link gun control to actions of "mama bears" concerning their cubs.

I mean, lets be real here. Revere was NOT in the business of warning the Regulars. If they WERE then WHY was the whole North Church part of the deal so secret? Why were they trying to EVADE Redcoat patrols.

Just to be sure, here's the quote:


Ringing those bells? (My guess it's confusion about the lanterns in the Old North Church)

Riding his horse through town? He barely started before he was captured and they stayed AWAY from town centers so they would be less conspicuous.

His bluff, at gunpoint, was that the citizens were armed - BUT THE SOLDIERS ALREADY KNEW THAT. The whole reason for the Regulars coming were to seize munitions that were rumored to be stored at certain places in Lexington, Concord and other towns.

The reaction is incredible. Apparently, Palin fans have been trying to edit Wikipedia to 'retcon' Palin's view into their account of Revere.
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/sarah-palins-gaffe-about-paul-revere-ca

Back in March, Michelle Bachman REPEATED Palin's gaffe as far as knowing WHERE Lexington and Concord were:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/12/michele-bachmann-revolutionary-history_n_834906.html

Palin is manna from heaven for comedians. The GOP needs someone as charismatic as she can be but who is known for actually DOING things and has a head on their shoulders.

Now who's going to absurd lengths to disprove something. I guess we can't trust Paul Revere's own account of what happened to him. This is kind of crazy.

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funny

http://www.businessinsider.com/sarah-palin-fans-try-to-rewrite-wikipedia-history-of-paul-reveres-ride-2011-6

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Umm.. Richie - those ARE Revere's own words. He only talked to the Regulars after he was captured. He also didn't know whether or not Prescott and/or Dawes got through.

Let's remember something else about Paul Revere. He was a silversmith and artist. *He* was the one who made the famous woodcutting depiction of the Boston Massacre and he added some "artistic license" (like the little dog in the corner). Revere was a Revolutionary - brave, indeed, but not beyond bending the truth for propaganda purposes. He inflamed the passions of people in Boston with that piece of art. It wasn't until after the trial where the Redcoats - defended by none other than future U.S. President John Adams - were found to be innocent and, for the most part, fired in self-defense as an very angry mob closed around them.

Quite frankly, if it wasn't for H. W. Longfellows poem, Revere would have been a barely mentioned figure in history. Paul's name rhymed well - certainly better than Prescott or Dawes (or Israel Bissell who had an even more important ride). Of course, Longfellow failed to mention Revere's capture and, instead, had him riding all the way to Concord.

Look, I respect Palin's savvy in many ways. Just NOT as a credible conservative candidate. She's a laughingstock when it comes to that. All her missteps would come back to haunt her in a pitched campaign - and that would first come from her own party. I don't think other GOP hopefuls will take it easy on her.

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Umm.. Richie - those ARE Revere's own words. He only talked to the Regulars after he was captured. He also didn't know whether or not Prescott and/or Dawes got through.

Let's remember something else about Paul Revere. He was a silversmith and artist. *He* was the one who made the famous woodcutting depiction of the Boston Massacre and he added some "artistic license" (like the little dog in the corner). Revere was a Revolutionary - brave, indeed, but not beyond bending the truth for propaganda purposes. He inflamed the passions of people in Boston with that piece of art. It wasn't until after the trial where the Redcoats - defended by none other than future U.S. President John Adams - were found to be innocent and, for the most part, fired in self-defense as an very angry mob closed around them.

Quite frankly, if it wasn't for H. W. Longfellows poem, Revere would have been a barely mentioned figure in history. Paul's name rhymed well - certainly better than Prescott or Dawes (or Israel Bissell who had an even more important ride). Of course, Longfellow failed to mention Revere's capture and, instead, had him riding all the way to Concord.

Look, I respect Palin's savvy in many ways. Just NOT as a credible conservative candidate. She's a laughingstock when it comes to that. All her missteps would come back to haunt her in a pitched campaign - and that would first come from her own party. I don't think other GOP hopefuls will take it easy on her.

Your opinion of Gov. Palin has nothing at all to do with this post. What Paul Revere situation might have been that caused him to speak to the British is immaterial. What Paul Revere carved or didn't carved is immaterial. Get a grip on yourself. This is a ridiculous post. Paul Revere wrote his own historical record of the events. You said you're not a "hater" of Gov. Palin. This post of yours does not support that claim.

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Ok, let me sum up then.

Palin was using Revere's ride as a talking point - in and of itself, there's nothing wrong with that. However, she mischaracterized it. Personally, I think she could get a lot more mileage out of using the ride for an anti-tax debate since "taxation without representation" was what was driving the colonists to arm themselves.

Revere's own words back me up. Again, he talked to the Regulars *at the point of a gun*.

What irritated me about the whole thing is that Palin clearly didn't know what she was talking about, trying to 're-purpose' a pivotal event in American history.

Palin, as a person, I don't hate. Yes, I have negative opinions of her, but I reserve the word "hate" for MUCH stronger things. I think she's opportunistic (not always a bad thing) and can't stand it when she does things like saying "I'm not a quitter" in the very speech she gave to QUIT HER JOB AS GOVERNOR.

I think she's being somewhat sleazy in getting her PAC to pay for her 'vacation' bus tour - legal because she's not a declared candidate. I roll my eyes at her saying she doesn't want publicity while touring in a shrink-wrapped bus.

She's a storm of self-contradiction. And while that's fine for ENTERTAINMENT, we need more than that from our politicians. I may not agree with a lot of Pawlenty or the New Romney - but they come across to me as much more serious candidates. Palin falls into the "Trump" category these days.

What troubles me more is that conservatives are SO desperate (and I don't blame anyone for having that feeling) for someone charismatic who can lead the ticket that they have taken to someone who, at times, is acting like a buffoon. When you say "North Korean allies", you don't wait a couple of days - you immediate say "Oops - I meant SOUTH Korea". People are quite forgiving when it comes to that.

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Richie and other admirers of Palin- Do you honestly think that Palin found all these historical references by herself? My speculation is that some staffer found these obscure Paul Revere remarks and the entire staff got together and decided that would be a great way for more publicity for Palin - like she would say it with great authority - some "liberals" would call her an idiot - and then the staffers would bring out their obscure proof that Palin is a historical genius. Excellent ploy.

This person is no dummy by any means. She has made more money by being a non-candidate than you can imagine. She plays the system like a violin - and probably pays no income tax!!

While Palin herself is a mental lightweight and cannot conduct herself in an unrehersed interview (Katie Couric was her first and last unrehersed interview), her handlers have the acumen to control her and make sure all interviews are with friendly interviewers from FOX and the questions have all been pre-screened for her handlers to brief Palin on the answers they want her to give.

If Palin was the great American she pretends to be, she would not have QUIT her job as governor of Alaska.

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Palin wouldn't exactly be unique when it comes to having staffers do research. In fact, I can't think of any candidate who WOULDN'T have them.

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DPlong, you are right about all candidates having staffers to do research. I was stating that Palin probably had no clue about Paul Revere and would never have said anything about him until a staff group thought it would be a good way to look like a historical genius after being called a know-nothing for saying it. Very good ploy.

I really liked your comments about her "shrink-wrapped bus". Excellent posting on your part.

However, Sarah Palin does continue to be a force to be respected. She is a very good business person and it is fun to see reporters race to get a little sound bite from her - only to hear Sarah say she does not owe the media anything at all. She sells ghost-written books, her daughter is a celebrity in her own right (for unknown reason to me), and Sarah gets paid more money than a former President for speeches that are basically sound bites, too. I have to respect her charisma.

Richie, thanks for the Yeunglings last night. It was real good to finally meet you.

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DJ and Bugs; your affliction of this Sarah Palin Derangement Syndrome is almost too sad for me to be laughing about, but I can't help myself. So many words to try to malign someone who got something right and that you can't believe she actually knew something about, and so have to come up with some kind of "Steven King-ish" fantasy tale of intrigue to explain this unfathomable occurrence. Please, continue. Your stories are so much more fun than the actual mundane story of an underestimation of a person you dislike and disrespect.

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Richie, thanks for the Yeunglings last night. It was real good to finally meet you.

Gosh, I miss Yeungling.

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DPlong, you are right about all candidates having staffers to do research. I was stating that Palin probably had no clue about Paul Revere and would never have said anything about him until a staff group thought it would be a good way to look like a historical genius after being called a know-nothing for saying it. Very good ploy.

I really liked your comments about her "shrink-wrapped bus". Excellent posting on your part.

However, Sarah Palin does continue to be a force to be respected. She is a very good business person and it is fun to see reporters race to get a little sound bite from her - only to hear Sarah say she does not owe the media anything at all. She sells ghost-written books, her daughter is a celebrity in her own right (for unknown reason to me), and Sarah gets paid more money than a former President for speeches that are basically sound bites, too. I have to respect her charisma.

Richie, thanks for the Yeunglings last night. It was real good to finally meet you.

It was my pleasure, Bugs. I hope you can make it down again. Or, maybe we can arrange 9 holes of golf sometime.

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It was my pleasure, Bugs. I hope you can make it down again. Or, maybe we can arrange 9 holes of golf sometime.

A truce?

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A truce?

Ha, ha; Bugs and I disagree on most things "political", but not on what makes life a pleasure. There's plenty of common ground for friendship, Gracie.

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Only liberal democrats.

No Richie.... Even moderate Democrats as well as some Republicans are afraid of her..... She didn't know about the historical facts you presented because when this flared up she went to her ole standby "it was a gotcha question from the lame stream media...

Just saying... They played the clip on Morning Joe today.

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Ever notice how many of the lib who post on this board don't live in The Villages and never have?

Something tells me that they are networking, with a concerted effort to hit this area. There has been many instances nationally of certain politicians being welcome here. They know that this growing community is mostly conservative, and that happening in such a key state as Florida, is just eating at their agenda.

Watch out, that next senate seat is up for grabs.

As an often accused liberal.....I do live for 7 months in The Villages. And how many of the conservatives don't live in TV?

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No Richie.... Even moderate Democrats as well as some Republicans are afraid of her..... She didn't know about the historical facts you presented because when this flared up she went to her ole standby "it was a gotcha question from the lame stream media...

Just saying... They played the clip on Morning Joe today.

Most likely it was something she had in her memory, but when people called her on it in the all too common ridiculing of anything Palin, she became unsure of her memory. Don't tell me that's never happened to you; I know it has happened to me.

Like me, she should have, or had someone else, look up the historical records of Paul Revere before she talked to another of her liberal media hit people.

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Here's what Palin terms a gothcha question. "What did you see today"..."and what did you learn?" or something very close to that. My, that is really trying to embarass her isn't it? :doh:

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DJ and Bugs; your affliction of this Sarah Palin Derangement Syndrome is almost too sad for me to be laughing about, but I can't help myself. So many words to try to malign someone who got something right and that you can't believe she actually knew something about, and so have to come up with some kind of "Steven King-ish" fantasy tale of intrigue to explain this unfathomable occurrence. Please, continue. Your stories are so much more fun than the actual mundane story of an underestimation of a person you dislike and disrespect.

Richie.

I mean this seriously, and NOT in a nasty or sarcastic way.

It's not Palin that I'm 'deranged' about. It's you. You are CLEARLY articulate and have a head on your shoulders but, for some reason, you just can't admit it when someone you follow is wrong.

Please notice that I'm not starting threads on her - I'm responding to people's comment - in this case, yours.

It's one thing to back your team in sports no matter how bad they get (and I know a lot about that having been a Red Sox fan for 30+ years before they finally won it all) - but it's another to keep backing someone who is making a fool of themselves. What's worse, you're not saying "Ok, Sarah was wrong but I still back her message" - you're saying she was RIGHT when the facts don't back it up. Even on Fox News, a friendly environment, she doubled down on it talking about Revere's ride, claiming she had the facts to back her up when, again, they DON'T - she never even mentioned the 'out' that her supporters (who were trying to edit the Wikipedia page on Paul Rever) try to use (the fact that Revere DID tell the Regulars about what was going on, but did it AFTER he was captured and was also bluffing since he didn't know what others had done). She insisted, on the clip that I saw, that telling the British was part of 'the mission'.

What's worse is she plays the Pity Card. She complained of it being a "gotcha question". Well, here's the question she was asked: "What did you see here (in Boston) and what will you take away from this visit?"

Is THAT a gotcha question?

With all that, Richie, it's YOU that I'm trying to understand. I can understand supporting her general positions, regardless of whether or not I agree with them. What I *don't* understand is why you keep insisting Palin was right about Revere. Don't you get ANY cognitive dissonance about this?

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Richie.

I mean this seriously, and NOT in a nasty or sarcastic way.

It's not Palin that I'm 'deranged' about. It's you. You are CLEARLY articulate and have a head on your shoulders but, for some reason, you just can't admit it when someone you follow is wrong.

Please notice that I'm not starting threads on her - I'm responding to people's comment - in this case, yours.

It's one thing to back your team in sports no matter how bad they get (and I know a lot about that having been a Red Sox fan for 30+ years before they finally won it all) - but it's another to keep backing someone who is making a fool of themselves. What's worse, you're not saying "Ok, Sarah was wrong but I still back her message" - you're saying she was RIGHT when the facts don't back it up. Even on Fox News, a friendly environment, she doubled down on it talking about Revere's ride, claiming she had the facts to back her up when, again, they DON'T - she never even mentioned the 'out' that her supporters (who were trying to edit the Wikipedia page on Paul Rever) try to use (the fact that Revere DID tell the Regulars about what was going on, but did it AFTER he was captured and was also bluffing since he didn't know what others had done). She insisted, on the clip that I saw, that telling the British was part of 'the mission'.

What's worse is she plays the Pity Card. She complained of it being a "gotcha question". Well, here's the question she was asked: "What did you see here (in Boston) and what will you take away from this visit?"

Is THAT a gotcha question?

With all that, Richie, it's YOU that I'm trying to understand. I can understand supporting her general positions, regardless of whether or not I agree with them. What I *don't* understand is why you keep insisting Palin was right about Revere. Don't you get ANY cognitive dissonance about this?

very well thought out, and spot on.

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Sarah Palin is everything that is wrong with America. She is an anti-intellectual soundbite who says nothing of substance. She is not very smart and proud of it......

Many of us would say that THIS guy is everything that is wrong with Washington DC. If you want to see an "anti-intellectual soundbite", this is a prime example:

http://twitter.com/#!/RepWeiner

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Richie.

I mean this seriously, and NOT in a nasty or sarcastic way.

It's not Palin that I'm 'deranged' about. It's you. You are CLEARLY articulate and have a head on your shoulders but, for some reason, you just can't admit it when someone you follow is wrong.

Please notice that I'm not starting threads on her - I'm responding to people's comment - in this case, yours.

It's one thing to back your team in sports no matter how bad they get (and I know a lot about that having been a Red Sox fan for 30+ years before they finally won it all) - but it's another to keep backing someone who is making a fool of themselves. What's worse, you're not saying "Ok, Sarah was wrong but I still back her message" - you're saying she was RIGHT when the facts don't back it up. Even on Fox News, a friendly environment, she doubled down on it talking about Revere's ride, claiming she had the facts to back her up when, again, they DON'T - she never even mentioned the 'out' that her supporters (who were trying to edit the Wikipedia page on Paul Rever) try to use (the fact that Revere DID tell the Regulars about what was going on, but did it AFTER he was captured and was also bluffing since he didn't know what others had done). She insisted, on the clip that I saw, that telling the British was part of 'the mission'.

What's worse is she plays the Pity Card. She complained of it being a "gotcha question". Well, here's the question she was asked: "What did you see here (in Boston) and what will you take away from this visit?"

Is THAT a gotcha question?

With all that, Richie, it's YOU that I'm trying to understand. I can understand supporting her general positions, regardless of whether or not I agree with them. What I *don't* understand is why you keep insisting Palin was right about Revere. Don't you get ANY cognitive dissonance about this?

I'm sorry you feel the way you do. But the fact is she WAS right. There's no gray area about it. She WAS right. That's all there is too it. Anything else is reaching for fathom conclusions, in my opinion; and all I can see is an irrational bias to support your findings. I can't help the way you feel, and you won't change my mind when I KNOW i'm right; so maybe it's best if we just drop it.

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Ok, Ritchie.. Then just one more round so I can understand exactly where you are.

You keep insisting she was right. You pointed towards Revere's account of the ride that showed she was wrong. Which parts are you in the belief that I'm wrong?

She said that Revere was ringing bells and firing shots. False.

She said that Revere was warning the British then, later, doubled down and said warning the British was part of the mission. False. Revere only spoke to the British when he was captured.

She said he was riding through towns warning people. Well, he never made it to the first town he was supposed to go to (Lexington). That was his INTENT, but the Regulars had something to say about that. After capture, the officer cut the bridle to Revere's horse and let him go - and Revere headed back towards Boston. So, again, false.

She said it was a "gotcha" question. False.

The mission was to warn the MILITIA in Lexington and Concord that the Regulars were coming to seize the arms that were rumored (from the Regulars point of view) to be in storehouses in Lexington, Concord and other towns. What kind of idiocy would it be to have part of the mission to be warning the very people you were trying to stay ahead of?

What am I missing here? You've just kept saying she was right. About what?

[Side note - the definition of the militia, at the time, was any able-bodied person who could use a firearm - hence the need to go house to house once you got to the town]

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Ya gotta watch "The Sarah Palin History Channel" sketch from Conan O'Brien on how the Constitution was signed. Farcical and funny. :doh:

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Or maybe it was the Declaraton of Independence.... :doh:

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An NPR interview with Robert Allison, chair of the history department at Suffolk University in Boston.

..."MELISSA BLOCK, host: So you think basically, on the whole, Sarah Palin got her history right.

"Prof. ALLISON: Well, yeah, she did. And remember, she is a politician. She's not an historian. And God help us when historians start acting like politicians, and I suppose when politicians start writing history."...




http://www.npr.org/2011/06/06/137011636/how-accurate-were-palins-comments-on-paul-revere

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Ok, Ritchie.. Then just one more round so I can understand exactly where you are.

You keep insisting she was right. You pointed towards Revere's account of the ride that showed she was wrong. Which parts are you in the belief that I'm wrong?

She said that Revere was ringing bells and firing shots. False.

She said that Revere was warning the British then, later, doubled down and said warning the British was part of the mission. False. Revere only spoke to the British when he was captured.

She said he was riding through towns warning people. Well, he never made it to the first town he was supposed to go to (Lexington). That was his INTENT, but the Regulars had something to say about that. After capture, the officer cut the bridle to Revere's horse and let him go - and Revere headed back towards Boston. So, again, false.

She said it was a "gotcha" question. False.

The mission was to warn the MILITIA in Lexington and Concord that the Regulars were coming to seize the arms that were rumored (from the Regulars point of view) to be in storehouses in Lexington, Concord and other towns. What kind of idiocy would it be to have part of the mission to be warning the very people you were trying to stay ahead of?

What am I missing here? You've just kept saying she was right. About what?

[Side note - the definition of the militia, at the time, was any able-bodied person who could use a firearm - hence the need to go house to house once you got to the town]

I see your post as reaching, because of a bias you have that she is, foremost, "stupid", and anything she says is based on that "fact". That coupled with the fact that she presented a historical event in a more correct context that you, who are obviously light years more intelligent than she, did not, until then, know.

On the bus tour, when she related that now famous short tale, she had a memory of the actual, and not the fanciful Longfellow inspired account, in her memory. You want to knock her for not getting every little factoid of the story in the correct connotation; that's fine. I guess you're much too brilliant to ever have gray areas in your memory of events, even if you know the meat of the memory, and cannot abide it in others.

Oh, and you're the one who's trying to come up with fanciful's "what if's" and "how could that be's" that have nothing to do with the actual events, and are only you trying to put yourself in the situation, with your brilliance, on how you would have handled the situation.

I leave you one more link you might want to read. Ohhh, and at the end you'll see where Paul Revere tells the British of the armed Colonists waiting for them. Oh my goodness, isn't that really close to what Gov. Pain said? No, can't be; because the woman is a stupid....................

http://www.paul-revere-heritage.com/midnight-ride.html

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To be honest, Richie. I'm disappointed in you. I asked for specifics to try and see where you were coming from and I get almost nothing from you. There was no bias as far as Palin was concerned. The 'bias', if you want to call it that was based on what I know from studying history both in books and from living next door to it.

But, hey, you gave me a link so I checked it out.


Revere was captured.
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The British held Revere and interrogated him with a pistol on his chest. He was asked about the plans of the militia and where they kept their ammunition. When asked where the Patriots were hiding he told them the truth and replied that they had 500 militiamen in Concord protecting them and 1500 coming. As they rode towards Concord he was told that if he tried to escape he would be shot.


Ok, I see where I got one thing wrong. He didn't start heading back towards Boston immediately until the Regulars released him when they heard the gunshots. He met up with others and headed towards Woburn, then back to Lexington to get some papers he forgot.

The link you provided showed that 'informing the British' was NOT part of the plan.

Why do you cling to this stuff? Even the links you provide refute Sarah's interpretation!

The one thing I *did* learn (or re-learn in case I forgot it) was that Revere DID give up the goods under interrogation. I wonder what Patrick Henry thought of that.

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Like I said DJ, you're looking for excellence and absolutes on a memory and I don't think you can rise to your own standards.

I'm not debating your "specifics". I won't be playing by your rules here. As you wrote, Revere told the British of the Colonists plans. That's close enough for me to know that she knew more about this than you with your Google.

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I suppose The Weiner would know all these history facts instantly.....Geezzzz.....

Let Palin go....It's a free country.

The American people are not as dumb as many of you think, and they can think for themselves.

We should be thankful we have the freedom for anyone who wants to to make a bid for public office!

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I suppose The Weiner would know all these history facts instantly.....Geezzzz.....

Let Palin go....It's a free country.

The American people are not as dumb as many of you think, and they can think for themselves.

We should be thankful we have the freedom for anyone who wants to to make a bid for public office!

How about that? Simple and eloquent; thank you.

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http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/wakytimes/1233270615-haha_simpsons.jpg



http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=43969

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Richie,

Your Simpson's cartoon is exactly right! Nelson is laughing at the possibility that Sarah Palin would actually know some history.

Like I explained earlier, some staffer (probably paid less than minimum wage but not an undocumented worker) found a factiod on Paul Revere. The staff decided to have Sarah say it, have the media jump on her, present the factoid, and BINGO - Sarah is a historian.

Put Sarah on Face the Nation or Meet The Press with no advance questions and see how she does. Oops, she does not do unrehersed questions. Reason: She cannot think on her feet.

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Richie,

Your Simpson's cartoon is exactly right! Nelson is laughing at the possibility that Sarah Palin would actually know some history.

Like I explained earlier, some staffer (probably paid less than minimum wage but not an undocumented worker) found a factiod on Paul Revere. The staff decided to have Sarah say it, have the media jump on her, present the factoid, and BINGO - Sarah is a historian.

Put Sarah on Face the Nation or Meet The Press with no advance questions and see how she does. Oops, she does not do unrehersed questions. Reason: She cannot think on her feet.

Lame-o; you're the one who's not paying attention. It'll bite you in the........

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There's an interesting juxtaposition here.

The article you linked to describes Palin as incredibly intelligent, laying a trap for liberals.

This is also the woman who was writing on her hand and giving Katie Couric blank stares.

Look, only Sarah knows what was really going through her head when she was asked what she'd take away from her visit to Boston. Everyone can have their opinion ranging from "she was clever" to "she got lucky" (Politifact rated her as 'barely true' because of the context she put around her comments).

For *true* haters of Palin, they're just waiting for the next Quayle-ism.

Me? Well, I'd like her to stop complaining about the media given that she's in a shrink-wrapped bus designed to draw attention. In all reality, I'd like her to get off the fence and announce one way or the other if she's running.

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D.J.; For a "non-hater", you sure have a lock on the hater talking point criticisms of her.

Very revealing; but I kinda already knew.

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D.J.; For a "non-hater", you sure have a lock on the hater talking point criticisms of her.

Very revealing; but I kinda already knew.

an objective bone in your body.

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There's a difference. I'm always willing to give someone the benefit of the doubt.

I saw some liberals praising Palin yesterday. ...and I'm NOT being sarcastic. They talked about how, as governor of Alaska, she closed a loophole or passed legislation that stopped oil companies from cheating the state out of some $12B in taxes. She did this well before she was tapped by the McCain camp for VP. She also cleaned up a lot of the corrupt GOP machine in Alaska, if what I'm hearing is true.

Where is THAT Sarah Palin? The Sarah Palin that held the oil companies feet to the fire would collide headlong with the current GOP aversion to even stopping oil subsidies in an era of trillion dollar deficits while they make record multibillion profits.

It's just like John McCain - where was the McCain I voted for in 2000? He certainly wasn't there in 2008. He was LONG gone by then.

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There's a difference. I'm always willing to give someone the benefit of the doubt.

I saw some liberals praising Palin yesterday. ...and I'm NOT being sarcastic. They talked about how, as governor of Alaska, she closed a loophole or passed legislation that stopped oil companies from cheating the state out of some $12B in taxes. She did this well before she was tapped by the McCain camp for VP. She also cleaned up a lot of the corrupt GOP machine in Alaska, if what I'm hearing is true.

Where is THAT Sarah Palin? The Sarah Palin that held the oil companies feet to the fire would collide headlong with the current GOP aversion to even stopping oil subsidies in an era of trillion dollar deficits while they make record multibillion profits.

It's just like John McCain - where was the McCain I voted for in 2000? He certainly wasn't there in 2008. He was LONG gone by then.

See, you're starting to get reacquainted with the true Sarah Palin because of this "lame stream" media colonoscopy that is being done to the former Governor of Alaska; that is the culmination of their years old obsession with her.

This is quickly going to turn into a situation where the liberal Palin haters are getting what they wanted, and end of kicking themselves because of it.

My guess is that they will try to shut this down early and prevent much more verbatim releases that are all mainly showing a hands-on, thoroughly engaged chief executive in competent administration of her state's business.

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As for anyone who calls Sarah Palin "stupid"...... have you used this word when describing any male candidate?

I have only heard this adjective used when describing Sarah Palin. This shows just how low some people (more often men than women) will stoop to attack Sarah Palin.

I did not vote for Obama because I believed he was unqualified, but never would I refer to him (or any candidate) as "stupid." While many of our elected officials have said or done some extremely "stupid things" .... IMO..... calling them "stupid" is very mean-spirited.

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We on the Republican side of the debate owe Gov. Sarah Palin a great debt of gratitude for taking the hits and providing cover for the rest of the party. I heard Dennis Miller make this point and thought it very astute. He thinks the Palin haters won't be able to attack Michele Bachmann with the same crazy vitriol, as it will seem to reveal a Democrat M.O. of attacking female candidates.

Palin's been taking the heat and gets up time and time again and is arguably stronger than ever.

Makes me think of that Chumbawamba song.

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Would someone please kill this thread - puleeeze!

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Palin is pretty smart as she laughs her way to the BANK!

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Actually Bush was referred to as 'stupid' many, many times.

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Actually Bush was referred to as 'stupid' many, many times.

It's kind of a pattern with Democrats against people they want to diminish yet who succeed and confound them.

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If Sarah Palin is such a dunce, why is the left expending so much effort trying to find an email to use to insult her?

I think the left is afraid.

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It amazes me that starting with the last election, the left chose to attack Palin by calling her stupid...Sarah's brilliant, clever, beguiling, engaging...even brilliant.

We're the ones that are stupid for continuing to be taken in by her line of extremely profitable self-promotion. We finally caught up with Glenn Beck. How much longer will it take to reach a similar conclusion regarding Sarah Palin?

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Sarah's brilliant, clever, beguiling, engaging...even brilliant.

We're the ones that are stupid for continuing to be taken in by her line of extremely profitable self-promotion. We finally caught up with Glenn Beck. How much longer will it take to reach a similar conclusion regarding Sarah Palin?

Don't think you reading the tea leaves correctly. Watch Beck be bigger than ever, just like Ms. Palin.

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[QUOTE=Villages Kahuna;363161]Sarah's brilliant, clever, beguiling, engaging...even brilliant.

We're the ones that are stupid for continuing to be taken in by her line of extremely profitable self-promotion. We finally caught up with Glenn Beck. How much longer will it take to reach a similar conclusion regarding Sarah Palin?[/QUOTE

You said it not me. But what are you going to do with her once you "catch" her?

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[QUOTE=Villages Kahuna;363161]Sarah's brilliant, clever, beguiling, engaging...even brilliant.

We're the ones that are stupid for continuing to be taken in by her line of extremely profitable self-promotion. We finally caught up with Glenn Beck. How much longer will it take to reach a similar conclusion regarding Sarah Palin?[/QUOTE

You said it not me. But what are you going to do with her once you "catch" her?

"You" finally caught up with Glenn Beck? How did you accomplish that? What was it you did that caused Fox News to part with their number 3 most watched show?

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"You" finally caught up with Glenn Beck? How did you accomplish that? What was it you did that caused Fox News to part with their number 3 most watched show?

is a psycho who was even too extreme for Roger Ailes.

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is a psycho who was even too extreme for Roger Ailes.


Actor,
You have mixed my post with another. Please be more careful when you quote someone.

Annabelle

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Actor,
You have mixed my post with another. Please be more careful when you quote someone.

Annabelle

sorry about that.

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Sarah's brilliant, clever, beguiling, engaging...even brilliant.

We're the ones that are stupid for continuing to be taken in by her line of extremely profitable self-promotion. We finally caught up with Glenn Beck. How much longer will it take to reach a similar conclusion regarding Sarah Palin?

VK that sort ofthing made Oprah a billionaire and is contributing nicely to the women on thr View. How do i know because my lady likstnes in much to my chagrin and bewilderment.....At least Palin does need to give away cars.

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Sarah's brilliant, clever, beguiling, engaging...even brilliant.

We're the ones that are stupid for continuing to be taken in by her line of extremely profitable self-promotion. We finally caught up with Glenn Beck. How much longer will it take to reach a similar conclusion regarding Sarah Palin?

VK the bigger mystery is that sort of thing made Oprah a billionaire and is contributing nicely to the women on the View. At least Palin does need to give away cars.

Palin will not run she is going to work as a king maker and she will pull in a lot of money for conservatives.

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VK that sort ofthing made Oprah a billionaire and is contributing nicely to the women on thr View. How do i know because my lady likstnes in much to my chagrin and bewilderment.....At least Palin does need to give away cars.

Of course Palin does not give away cars. She doesn't give away anything and expects to get paid for everything. :yuck: