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The Shadow
07-24-2011, 11:15 AM
I hope I can get away with posting this, I feel so strongly that everyone should see this. Please do not remove this and everybody please watch the movie on YouTube at the bottom.

Here is a development in Tacoma WA (Salishan) that was built for Illegal Immigrants! 1325 Homes created! Refugee Pay offers them $2642 per month in SSI benefits, plus Food Stamps, plus Section 8 Housing. You will see new expensive cars in this video. Wouldn't you like to get a free ride like the illegals?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu6ok5ykyuQ

villagegolfer
07-24-2011, 11:54 AM
for the link. I will forward this in my e-mails.

wendyquat
07-24-2011, 12:43 PM
Sorry I just couldn't watch it all as it makes me nauseous! I did forward it to many though! Thanks

renrod
07-24-2011, 12:51 PM
I hope I can get away with posting this, I feel so strongly that everyone should see this. Please do not remove this and everybody please watch the movie on YouTube at the bottom.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu6ok5ykyuQ

I have no idea if this is true or an exageration or some information correct and some added language that is not really true. It smells like most of the reports you hear that are inaccurate but sound good. I also received the email from someone else. I usually try to VERIFY things like this berfore I forward them. I have been unable to verify using "snopes.com".

The Shadow
07-24-2011, 01:28 PM
I have no idea if this is true or an exageration or some information correct and some added language that is not really true. It smells like most of the reports you hear that are inaccurate but sound good. I also received the email from someone else. I usually try to VERIFY things like this berfore I forward them. I have been unable to verify using "snopes.com".

I do not know if this verifies anything but this is an article from “The News Tribune” a daily news paper in Tacoma, WA, dated July 24, 2011.

Funding for phase three at Salishan millions short
The redevelopment of Salishan, the vast Tacoma Housing Authority neighborhood on the city’s East Side, is going well, but the collapsing economy is posing challenges for its completion.

Michael Mirra, the Housing Authority executive director, delivered a message of success tempered with uncertainty Tuesday during a meeting with the Tacoma City Council.

Although the Salishan remodel’s first phase is complete and work is under way on the second phase, Mirra said the Housing Authority is $25.5 million short of the $55 million needed to complete the three-phase project. SNIP........

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2009/02/11/623257/funding-for-phase-three-at-salishan.html#storylink=misearch

ilovetv
07-24-2011, 02:01 PM
This is a far more accurate description of the demographics.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/24/business/24natreal.html

REDCART
07-24-2011, 02:31 PM
The YouTube clip while enlightening may be somewhat misleading. It mentions several times that some of the funds come from the Social Security Budget, which many people might erroneous conclude means the Old Age Survivors and Disability Trust fund which funds monthly SS retirement and survivors benefits. That was no doubt the intent of this reference to generate public angst.

The Social Security Act is organized under 21 Titles. For example, SSI is covered under Title XVI. Other titles provide authority for the federal government to provide block grants to states for various social programs. Funding for these various programs including SSI comes from general tax revenue and not from the Social Security OASDI trust funds. Yes, it's our taxes being siphoned off again for some well-meaning social program but it's not draining the SS trust funds as the commentator would have you believe.

renrod
07-24-2011, 02:40 PM
This is a far more accurate description of the demographics.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/24/business/24natreal.html

Thank you for your time clarifying the issue, it is always good to get ANOTHER view.

graciegirl
07-24-2011, 03:49 PM
This is a far more accurate description of the demographics.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/24/business/24natreal.html

I was going to say something else.

I appreciate this clarification.

Thank you very much ilovetv.

angiefox10
07-24-2011, 05:14 PM
This is a far more accurate description of the demographics.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/24/business/24natreal.html


Thanks for finding this... I went looking and couldn't find it. I KNEW there had to be another story! :highfive:

Bob45
07-24-2011, 07:32 PM
I forwarded this movie and here is a reply I got from a friend of mine. She worked in Summit County. The Akron, Ohio area.
Bob


There is a program for political refuges. I have had Serbians, Vietnamese, and other Asians. If they get SSI, it is now about $661 a month. When I first started at AMHA it was $358 a month. This goes to disabled people who do not have enough SS credits to get SSD. At Van Buren I had a family, father was blind, a mother, and an adult son. The father got SSI (around $500 at that time), the wife and adult son nothing. They did get food stamps and medicaid (provided by the state.) Their rent was calculated at 30% of their gross income (not net). They didn't live free. All tenants who pay utilities are given a utility allowance which is deducted from their rent. This enables a larger family on welfare to pay little or no rent. We had many tenants who had used up their welfare benefits and supposedly lived off their utility allowance checks which were suppose to go to pay their gas and electric. They were usually all able to have cable TV (nonworking, drug selling boyfriends who were not on the lease or suppose to be living there). We have 2 recent new housing developments in Akron, Edgewood and Elizabeth Park. The monies to tear down and rebuild came from HUD in a program called Hope VI that AMHA applied for a grant and received. Only about 10-20 grants are given out each year. The cameraman is right to be upset. AMHA doesn't pay taxes, but they own the property not the tenants. Drive around Edgewood and Elizabeth Park (built under a different program with home ownership as part of the program). When I managed Scattered Sites which was houses all over Summit County, I would get a lot of phone calls from neighbors who were upset to see all the monies we put into our houses to rehab them when the tenants had moved out and destroyed our properties (around $50-60K). We had started a program where our houses could only be rented to working tenants in good standing meaning they were current residents living in our apartments, who paid their rent on time, passed all their housekeeping inspections, or were going to school (gov. grants) to better themselves. Many of our working tenants lost their jobs within a short while of moving into a house, and we usually ended up sending them an utility allowance check which could be several hundred dollars a month. You got to know the rules in order to play the game. They were all street smart, and they played to win! And people say to me do I miss working?

Uptown Girl
07-24-2011, 08:03 PM
If anyone asked me what I thought of this Youtube clip, I would say I believe it is trash.... if they disagree, so be it. This story came to mind... thought I'd pass it along: "The Wolves Within"

A grandson told of his anger at a schoolmate who had done him an injustice. Grandfather said: "Let me tell you a story." "I, too, have felt a great hate for those that have taken so much, with no sorrow for what they do. But, hate wears you down and does not hurt your enemy. It is like taking poison and wishing your enemy would die. I have struggled with these feelings many times. It is as if there are two wolves inside me: one is good and does no harm. He lives in harmony with all around him and does not take offense when no offense was intended. He will only fight when it is right to do so, and in the right way. But the other wolf is full of anger. The littlest thing will set him into a fit of temper. He fights with everyone, all the time, for no reason. He cannot think because his anger and hate are so great. It is hard to live with these two wolves inside me, for both of then try to dominate my spirit." The boy looked intently into his grandfather's eyes and asked, "Which one wins, Grandfather?" The grandfather solemnly replied, "The one I feed."

jflynn1
07-25-2011, 04:09 PM
Hopefully you did not actually believe this story.
People will post most anythng just to put other people
:jester:down.

paulandjean
07-25-2011, 04:33 PM
Not sure about this video.

Bob45
07-30-2011, 04:16 PM
This was just posted on Snopes.........

http://www.snopes.com/politics/socialsecurity/salishan.asp


Bob

Russ_Boston
07-30-2011, 05:12 PM
thanks bob.

If you read enough on-line you know what and who to ignore and where to go to check it out. Thanks for the link.

And anyone who said something like "i'll forward this" or points to other dubious internet links is part of the problem.

Please check out all these type of claims before forwarding.

2BNTV
07-30-2011, 05:56 PM
"The Wolves Within"

A grandson told of his anger at a schoolmate who had done him an injustice. Grandfather said: "Let me tell you a story." "I, too, have felt a great hate for those that have taken so much, with no sorrow for what they do. But, hate wears you down and does not hurt your enemy. It is like taking poison and wishing your enemy would die. I have struggled with these feelings many times. It is as if there are two wolves inside me: one is good and does no harm. He lives in harmony with all around him and does not take offense when no offense was intended. He will only fight when it is right to do so, and in the right way. But the other wolf is full of anger. The littlest thing will set him into a fit of temper. He fights with everyone, all the time, for no reason. He cannot think because his anger and hate are so great. It is hard to live with these two wolves inside me, for both of then try to dominate my spirit." The boy looked intently into his grandfather's eyes and asked, "Which one wins, Grandfather?" The grandfather solemnly replied, "The one I feed."[/QUOTE]

I loved this story. Thank you for posting this. :BigApplause:

angiefox10
07-30-2011, 07:27 PM
If anyone asked me what I thought of this Youtube clip, I would say I believe it is trash.... if they disagree, so be it. This story came to mind... thought I'd pass it along: "The Wolves Within"

A grandson told of his anger at a schoolmate who had done him an injustice. Grandfather said: "Let me tell you a story." "I, too, have felt a great hate for those that have taken so much, with no sorrow for what they do. But, hate wears you down and does not hurt your enemy. It is like taking poison and wishing your enemy would die. I have struggled with these feelings many times. It is as if there are two wolves inside me: one is good and does no harm. He lives in harmony with all around him and does not take offense when no offense was intended. He will only fight when it is right to do so, and in the right way. But the other wolf is full of anger. The littlest thing will set him into a fit of temper. He fights with everyone, all the time, for no reason. He cannot think because his anger and hate are so great. It is hard to live with these two wolves inside me, for both of then try to dominate my spirit." The boy looked intently into his grandfather's eyes and asked, "Which one wins, Grandfather?" The grandfather solemnly replied, "The one I feed."

I love this story as well!!! :BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause: