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paullynnchetti
07-26-2011, 09:20 PM
Canvas roof covers were approved recently. Is anyone going to put a canvas on their birdcage and if so who are they using to have it done?
Barefoot
07-26-2011, 11:28 PM
Canvas roof covers were approved recently. Is anyone going to put a canvas on their birdcage and if so who are they using to have it done?
I'm curious .. who "approved" canvas roof covers and how did you find out? Was it in the newspaper? Do covers have to be a certain colour? Do they have to be approved by the ARC?
ncr2482
07-27-2011, 06:26 AM
Changes were made effective mid July. I stumbled upon this info. on thevillages.net page...VCDD section this morning while checking on something else. (quoted below)
I was wondering who does this type of work. On the Nancy Lopez Torrey Pines nine - one home on hole 4 and one on hole 5 have canvas covers. My husband and I have admired it and considered adding a cover to our birdcage but wondered if it was "allowed".
If anyone knows of a company doing this type of work, please post it on TOTV. Thanks
"Revisions have been made to the Architectural Review Manual and the External Deed Restriction Standards. The manual revisions were made to Section 4.3, p. 53-54, for Homes, Courtyard Villas and Patio Villas.
Section 4.3, p. 53-54 revisions include:
-Canvas roof covers on screen room/birdcages are allowed. The covers must be on a metal frame, firmly attached to the existing screen room/birdcage and be in accordance with applicable county, state and federal regulations. Must be a solid color complimenting the color of the home/roof with no stripes or designs allowed. Valances are allowed, may have contrasting piping but cannot exceed 16 inches in length. Architectural Review approval must be obtained.
Revisions to the External Deed Restriction Standards include:
-Air Conditioners - (Include) Mini-splits are not considered window air conditioners and are allowed.
-External Noise - (Include) Quiet hours are from 10:00 p.m. until one hour before daybreak.
-Garbage/Trash - (Include) Yard waste shall be contained in biodegradable paper bags. Any large yard waste must not exceed four (4) feet in length.
-Lawn Ornaments - (Delete) birdbaths (Birdbaths are allowed).
-Maintenance and Modification - (change) grass and weed height to 8".
-Campers, Winnebago's, and other RV - (Include) Boats
Please click here to view the complete set of documents.
Architectural Review Manual"
nitehawk
07-27-2011, 07:13 AM
Thanks ncr2482 nice job
CTgolfer
07-27-2011, 09:10 AM
We recently had a quote for the Sunbrella bird cage cover. Our understanding is that Sunshine Awnings (Russell) at 352-787-4436 is the Villages approved contractor for this. He can show you photos of what it looks like. You can pretty much choose any of the Sunbrella fabrics. It does require Architectural Review Board approval. You can also do a partial cover, if you don't want the entire top of the bird cage done. We are looking at doing an area of 12 x 16 and the cost was around $1,000. Hope this helps.
Bosoxfan
07-27-2011, 11:25 AM
We will be having our birdcage built in the fall. I was wondering if these awnings are installed over screen or is the roof screening even necessary? We like having the choice of covering the roof and will be looking.into wether the cost will be $1000 more on new construction.Thanks for the info we would have never thought to ask if this could be done!
Halle
07-27-2011, 12:17 PM
Thanks for the information. We are also interested in having a canvas cover on our birdcage. We would appreciate information from someone who has had a canvas cover added to their birdcage. I will also contact Sunshine Awnings to find out if they have a online catalog.
Bosoxfan
07-27-2011, 09:40 PM
Welcom,e to the TOTV forum!
Barefoot
07-28-2011, 10:20 AM
Canvas roof covers were approved recently. Is anyone going to put a canvas on their birdcage and if so who are they using to have it done?
This is good new information to know .. Thanks for starting this thread.
StarbuckSammy
07-28-2011, 12:08 PM
What does it look like? Are there any pictures of it? What about wind?
paullynnchetti
07-28-2011, 08:50 PM
If you go north on Buena Vista Blvd and just pass the Savannah Center turn right onto El Camino Real, you will see a home with a Canvas top on their bird cage. You can not miss it. I asked T&D Construction and they said there is no problem with wind.
downeaster
07-28-2011, 09:38 PM
What does it look like? Are there any pictures of it? What about wind?
I drove by one today. It looked like a tent without walls. Not unattractive. The wind? Good question for the installer.
golf2140
07-28-2011, 09:48 PM
When you have been here when a hurricane visits, you don't want a parachute on your home. Just my opinion after being here for a few hurricanes. :posting:
uujudy
07-31-2011, 11:25 AM
When you have been here when a hurricane visits, you don't want a parachute on your home. Just my opinion after being here for a few hurricanes. :posting:
We get some incredible winds here without the hurricanes! I wonder if the cover would take the birdcage with it?
Barefoot
07-31-2011, 02:28 PM
If you go north on Buena Vista Blvd and just pass the Savannah Center turn right onto El Camino Real, you will see a home with a Canvas top on their bird cage. You can not miss it. I asked T&D Construction and they said there is no problem with wind.
T and D Construction are a reputable company .. If they say no problem with wind, they've probably developed a fail-safe way to anchor the canvas tops.
memason
07-31-2011, 02:59 PM
I drove down El Camino Real looking for this birdcage, but couldn't find it. I thought it would be easy to spot ???
rubicon
07-31-2011, 03:44 PM
I drove by one today. It looked like a tent without walls. Not unattractive. The wind? Good question for the installer.
Yea, that's what I want my neighbors birdcages to look like...a tent with no walls. Am I the only one that thinks this is a bit cheesy?:throwtomatoes:
Indydealmaker
07-31-2011, 05:09 PM
Yea, that's what I want my neighbors birdcages to look like...a tent with no walls. Am I the only one that thinks this is a bit cheesy?:throwtomatoes:
I will reserve my judgement until I have actually seen one.
rubicon
07-31-2011, 05:15 PM
Let me take a guess. It will look like a birdcage with a canvas on the top. It's true we are the mercy of our neighbors
Barefoot
08-01-2011, 11:45 AM
Yea, that's what I want my neighbors birdcages to look like...a tent with no walls. Am I the only one that thinks this is a bit cheesy?:throwtomatoes:
A birdcage with a canvas top sounds pretty inoffensive. I assume the canvas would be a neutral colour and not fuchia. I guess we'd all like to see one. Can anyone post a picture here (for those of us not currently in residence)?
texasfal
08-01-2011, 01:43 PM
What happens to the canvas during a hurricane? The awnings on your house unsnap and you can put them away so they don't act like a sail, but canvas coverings on the lanai, I don't know.
Bosoxfan
09-24-2011, 10:58 AM
What happens to the canvas during a hurricane? The awnings on your house unsnap and you can put them away so they don't act like a sail, but canvas coverings on the lanai, I don't know.
I was told by my contractor that the state of florida code wouldn't allow a canvas roof on a bird cage!
Another alternative to the roof cover is to have a sunbrella awning installed inside the bird cage. Mine is motorized (12' by 16')and allows me to keep it closed during the Winter months and open it in the summer for shade. It is free standing so there are no verical posts. With the push of a button, one can open and close the awning at any time. Should anyone want to see the setup, please leave me a private message. I am located in the Village of Bonnybrook..
Oren L Miller
09-24-2011, 12:18 PM
What does it look like? Are there any pictures of it? What about wind?
Good question. Also what about durability? Will they fade? What is the life expectancy of the canvas cover?
zcaveman
09-24-2011, 03:23 PM
I was told by my contractor that the state of florida code wouldn't allow a canvas roof on a bird cage!
Isn't anyone concerned about this? Is TV trying to placate a certain group without concern for the Florida laws?
Barefoot
09-24-2011, 03:38 PM
Good question. Also what about durability? Will they fade? What is the life expectancy of the canvas cover?
I'd think canvas might rot and smell like .... Wet tent ... with the rain and humidity.
A former Girl Guide
bimmertl
09-24-2011, 04:54 PM
Isn't anyone concerned about this? Is TV trying to placate a certain group without concern for the Florida laws?
You are making an assumption that a "contractor" knows what he is talking about.
No doubt TV ran this change through legal channels prior to making it. Additionally, the canvas top is not "on" the bird cages. It's on it's own frame which is attached to the bird cage. That's probably what makes the difference.
Bosoxfan
09-24-2011, 09:00 PM
Isn't anyone concerned about this? Is TV trying to placate a certain group without concern for the Florida laws?
We decided against it seeing it's not good with the state of florida's code.
uujudy
09-26-2011, 10:10 AM
I saw two of them last week, and I was surprised that they didn't look too bad. They're on the right side of Buena Vista heading south from Glenview, before you get to 466.
gomsiepop
02-26-2013, 05:23 PM
Prices have definitely gone up (quite a bit). I spoke to Russell at Sunshine Awnings and he said the cost is $13 to $14 a square foot. Easy enough to calculate a 15 x 20 birdcage = $3,900-$4,200. I thought that was really expensive for canvas. Also, one of the contractors stated that if a birdcage collapses the warranty is void if a canvas covering is installed on the roof. As they say "let the buyer beware"
Roaddog53
02-26-2013, 09:18 PM
Let me take a guess. It will look like a birdcage with a canvas on the top. It's true we are the mercy of our neighbors
So have you actually saw one or are you passing judgement on something site unseen?
Roaddog53
02-26-2013, 09:26 PM
Another alternative to the roof cover is to have a sunbrella awning installed inside the bird cage. Mine is motorized (12' by 16')and allows me to keep it closed during the Winter months and open it in the summer for shade. It is free standing so there are no verical posts. With the push of a button, one can open and close the awning at any time. Should anyone want to see the setup, please leave me a private message. I am located in the Village of Bonnybrook..
Now this sounds like abetter alternative. If it in the same $4000-5000 range, wouldn't it be better to retract it in winds and when one wants sun?
mulligan
02-27-2013, 07:40 AM
Yo Bosox, This is a new one on me. I supervised construction in FL for 10 years, and never heard of a "Florida Code", only county codes.
karostay
02-27-2013, 11:58 AM
are we talking canvas cover or rip stop nylon
batman911
02-27-2013, 12:21 PM
Another alternative would be to have a heavier grade of shade screen installed on the top of the bird cage. That will provide more screening from the sun.
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