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Guest
07-30-2011, 12:37 AM
Everyone is watching their nest eggs held in stock fritter away as the partisan politicians in Washington appear to be purposely running our economy--and a huge amount of our wealth--off a cliff. They continue to cling to opposing ideologies, refusing to budge in negotiating a solution, even though they could. It's pretty clear than many of them don't really understand the havoc they are letting loose on the country. They seem only to be interested in the political outcome of their actions--will they be re-elected? Will their party remain in power?

But here's another little something to watch and worry about. All that money you have in money market mutual funds might not be as risk-free as you thought. You may not get all your money back.

Investors are already pulling billions of dollars from money funds, long seen as one of the safest places to park cash and a vital cog in the machine that provides short-term working capital financing for the U.S. economy. The funds are heavily exposed to U.S. Treasurys, and market observers said the threat of a default or downgrade to the U.S. credit rating is one reason investors are pulling out.

A run on these funds in 2008 was a major factor in the financial calamity that followed the collapse of Lehman Brothers, freezing up financing for companies, even the largest Fortune 500 firms. Back then the Treasury Department had to temporarily guarantee the funds and the Federal Reserve had to offer emergency loans to them to prevent investors from fleeing. With debt capped and government spending priorities definitely elsewhere, these funds and the U.S. economy may have to "go naked" in trying to self correct. If the Fed is unable--that is can't afford--to intervene, the economic eefect and the impact on our wealth and the U.S. economy truly could be the armageddon people have referred to.

If either a default or downgrade causes a decline in the value of both U.S. Treasury's and the dollar, there is little chance that the big money market funds will be able to meet the almost certain run that will result on the full redemption basis that most people expected when they invested in those funds. Once a run starts it will be difficult to counter without Fed intervention, which would be unlikely or impossible given the circumstances.

The irresponsible performance of the U.S. Congress will cost the American economy and American citizens a lot more of their wealth than the political ideologues have been arguing about in increased taxes and reduced spending. It will cost us all...a lot. The politicians have repeatedly talked about not doing anything to hurt the "job creators". But the result of their stubborn refusal to move off their partisan ideologies will cause far more economic damage. Why do you think that over 100 business groups, including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the American Manufactrers Association and the like have implored Congress to enact a solution? They know what is about to happen.

As I've said before, the market will make the adjustments as the result of reduced confidence and higher risk that our elected representatives refused to act upon, even though they could have. It will be very costly to all of us.

Watch.

Guest
07-30-2011, 01:32 PM
it might be time for a march on DC

Guest
07-30-2011, 02:44 PM
Why we are in this death dance is beyond any rational comprehension. Whether you are on the left or the right - what's going on now is a manufactured crisis that has already cost individuals and this government a significant sum.

So stupid and unnecessary.

And that reflects just our current situation. Should we actually move to default, well - I'm afraid that Dickens could script the finale.

Harbor

Guest
07-30-2011, 03:15 PM
Everyone is watching their nest eggs held in stock fritter away as the partisan politicians in Washington appear to be purposely running our economy--and a huge amount of our wealth--off a cliff. They continue to cling to opposing ideologies, refusing to budge in negotiating a solution, even though they could. It's pretty clear than many of them don't really understand the havoc they are letting loose on the country. They seem only to be interested in the political outcome of their actions--will they be re-elected? Will their party remain in power?

But here's another little something to watch and worry about. All that money you have in money market mutual funds might not be as risk-free as you thought. You may not get all your money back.

Investors are already pulling billions of dollars from money funds, long seen as one of the safest places to park cash and a vital cog in the machine that provides short-term working capital financing for the U.S. economy. The funds are heavily exposed to U.S. Treasurys, and market observers said the threat of a default or downgrade to the U.S. credit rating is one reason investors are pulling out.

A run on these funds in 2008 was a major factor in the financial calamity that followed the collapse of Lehman Brothers, freezing up financing for companies, even the largest Fortune 500 firms. Back then the Treasury Department had to temporarily guarantee the funds and the Federal Reserve had to offer emergency loans to them to prevent investors from fleeing. With debt capped and government spending priorities definitely elsewhere, these funds and the U.S. economy may have to "go naked" in trying to self correct. If the Fed is unable--that is can't afford--to intervene, the economic eefect and the impact on our wealth and the U.S. economy truly could be the armageddon people have referred to.

If either a default or downgrade causes a decline in the value of both U.S. Treasury's and the dollar, there is little chance that the big money market funds will be able to meet the almost certain run that will result on the full redemption basis that most people expected when they invested in those funds. Once a run starts it will be difficult to counter without Fed intervention, which would be unlikely or impossible given the circumstances.

The irresponsible performance of the U.S. Congress will cost the American economy and American citizens a lot more of their wealth than the political ideologues have been arguing about in increased taxes and reduced spending. It will cost us all...a lot. The politicians have repeatedly talked about not doing anything to hurt the "job creators". But the result of their stubborn refusal to move off their partisan ideologies will cause far more economic damage. Why do you think that over 100 business groups, including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the American Manufactrers Association and the like have implored Congress to enact a solution? They know what is about to happen.

As I've said before, the market will make the adjustments as the result of reduced confidence and higher risk that our elected representatives refused to act upon, even though they could have. It will be very costly to all of us.

Watch.


I certainly read all of your posts, political or not.....You present a very insightful balanced view...thank you :BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:

Guest
07-30-2011, 03:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=8SGyVNippvA

Guest
07-30-2011, 05:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=8SGyVNippvAGreat video!

I wonder whether the President or any of the members of the Congress bothered to take the few minutes it takes to watch this video. If they did, I wonder if it had any impact whatsoever? I wonder if any of them actually gave a damn when they finished watching?

Or did they just think..."I wish this guy would shut up. If too many people watch this, it'll interfere with me getting re-elected. It'll interfere with my party or my caucus getting more power."

If my little signature at the bottom of this page was ever meaningful, it's now. Don't even think about re-electing an incumbent.

Guest
07-30-2011, 05:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=8SGyVNippvA

ilovetv,

He said what I feel.

Guest
07-30-2011, 06:43 PM
He lost me at "you think the solution is taxing..."

That is not THE solution. Like anything else, it's PART of a solution. There is NO magic bullet. And at a 3:1 ratio of spending cuts to tax increases, well, that's better than Reagan got.

For all their screaming, I would have hoped that Boehner and company would have put in some kind of legal assurance that the spending cut actually HAPPEN, unlike what happened to Reagan and Bush Sr. (where they did NOT get the spending cuts they were promised).

The facts are that the old talking points do not apply in this case.

Higher taxes on the not-job-creators are bad? Tell that to Germany. THey have FAR higher taxes, FAR higher spending and THEY are the ones telling Greece what WILL and WON'T be acceptable in the future.

Canada and their higher taxes (and spending) are creating more jobs than we are with ONE TENTH the population.

Why?

Well, I don't have all the answers, but I would imagine that spending money on foreign wars that should not have been started (Iraq) or that have taken FAR too long (Afghanistan) is a good place to start cutting. Let's cut Michelle Bachmann's farm and medicare subsidies while we're at it since she claims to hate those programs so much.

I've said the before and I sound like a broken record. We no longer lead in very much. The tallest buildings, the fastest trains, the best health care.. None of that is here anymore. The best cars? Look overseas. Planes? Airbus is maintainging their lead over Boeing. Energy policy? don't make me laugh (or cry).

Guest
07-30-2011, 08:03 PM
USA has been spending for defense big time since WWII. Europe didn't have that albatross around their necks and yet they still have over spent. Why? Their socialist-union policies.

We are now heading down the same path. If we do not stop the socialistic tendencies that have infiltrated our policies, we are doomed as they are.

Guest
07-30-2011, 09:14 PM
Why should Europe spend money on defense, they know that we will always protect them, we supply them with most of there defence now. I`m tired of the United States being the largest un-paid police force of the world.

Guest
07-30-2011, 09:18 PM
USA has been spending for defense big time since WWII. Europe didn't have that albatross around their necks and yet they still have over spent. Why? Their socialist-union policies.

We are now heading down the same path. If we do not stop the socialistic tendencies that have infiltrated our policies, we are doomed as they are.I might debate that the problems being encountered by some of the European countries have little to do with political ideology, but rather result from the same type of governance that got us into the financial problems where we find ourselves now.

For more than a decade our government operated with virtually no long term economic or fiscal planning, assessment of risks, with absolutely no attention to the sustainability or affordability of alarming, repeated and escalating deficit spending. That was all done under the control of Congressional leadership and control by both our political parties.

Where we find ourselves and where we're going has little to do, in my opinion, with political ideals. It has a lot to do with irresponsible, selfish and short-sighted governance.

Guest
07-30-2011, 09:57 PM
Our constitution says that not only do we have a right, but also a duty to replace a disfunctional government. Have you ever seen our govenment more dsfunctional than now? I have to agree with Villages Kahuna. NEVER VOTE FOR AN INCUMBENT!!!