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08-02-2011, 07:51 PM
Here you go...the Dow is down another 265 points today. That's a total of about 700 points in a little more than a week. Our feckless Congress spent a couple months arguing and debating and dropping soundbites on TV defending their ideologies. Now they're all saying that it's the best deal that could have been negotiated, that it's a step in the right direction, that the "debate" in Washington has been changed. The Democrats didn't like attacks on entitlements. The Republicans argued that we shouldn't increase taxes, even on the wealthiest, by even one dollar. So the deal they negotiated accomplished very little of what's needed. The politicians all got most of what they wanted...and the public got the shaft!

So now that all Americans that had their investments and personal wealth lose almost 10% in less than 10 days, how do you feel about all that posturing and arguing of your favorite party now?

I commented here a couple weeks ago that there was a third party at the negotiating table--the financial markets. It's pretty clear that the financial markets are speaking. They have no confidence in the ability of this Congress and this President to govern the country, to provide an environment where the economy can flourish, to provide a stable environment where consumers want to spend and producers want to hire and invest. Consumer confidence is near a historic low, employers aren't hiring, producers aren't investing. It's not a shortage of cash--corporations are awash in cash. They simply don't have the confidence that it should be invested here in the U.S. Our companies are investing in other parts of the world where the economic environment is more stable, the availability of skilled employees is better, and costs are lower. American consumers think the best use of their cash is the same as the corporations--hold onto it. That combination brings our economy to a screeching halt.

Who should we blame? The consumers? The corporations? Or the elected politicians, regardless of their ideological beliefs?

In my opinion, those at fault are the elected representatives that put their own political ideology and their desires for re-election ahead of the well-being of the people they were elected to represent. There will be some here that reply that if we could only get government out of the act and let the private sector do their thing. But what you're missing is that governmwent provides the environment in which the private sector operates. If it's a toxic environment, the private sector doesn't do well. It makes the proper decisions to minimize risk and maximize profits. If those objectives can't be achieved in this country, they'll do business elsewhere...or not do business at all.

Those of you that buy into the shorthand soundbites put out by the politicians every day, I feel sorry for you. There are many here in this forum who repeat those simplistic soundbites ad infnitum. The simply repeat the soundbites provided by politicians with no forethought. As far as I'm concerned, all 535 members of Congress should be put out of office. There is not one of them, not one party, not one caucus, not one member who has earned the right to be re-elected.

Would their replacements be better? There's no way to know. But we DO know that the 535 we have there now have not acted in our best interests. What they've done has been far more expensive to us and destructive to our economy than anything the wingnuts on the left and right and those in the middle could have done had they gotten their way. We've all lost more individually than either a continuation of spending or some increased taxes on the wealthy would have cost if an agreement had been reached months ago.

What is the quote from the movie? "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more."

But I guess that's easier said than done, isn't it?

Guest
08-02-2011, 08:28 PM
From what I understand, many businesses were hoping for a real reduction in government spending and reducing the size of government "work force." They are seeing business as usual and are reacting in the market. The Tea Party is not really satisfied, in my humbly opinion.

Guest
08-03-2011, 03:37 AM
Until such time as the priority changes from the rabid partisan politics to people in office doing what is right for the country and we the people....nothing or anybody will change the entrenched business as usual in Washington.

What the incumbents have going for them is that we the people are fickle, lazy and permissive of just about anything as long as it doesn't affect me. Hence what we are witnessing is what we allow.

It will likely require a major disaster of significant magnitude, touching millions to unite this nation again......OR REAL leadership....we need the change that Obama promised and got elected on...undoing business as usual. I think we tend to forget, he did not win by a landslide...far from it. And I do not think he can win in 2012, regardless of the opposition candidate, because of his sterling track record of not doing what he said he was going to do. I believe that will swing the election against him....we can only hope we the people who bought what he was selling last time will not do so again. Why or how could they ?

In any case he is an incumbent and is to not be voted for based on that alone....

btk

Guest
08-03-2011, 05:49 AM
With the passing of the 17th Amendment, calling for the general election of each states senator, We the American People lost control of our government. That was the start of "career politicans." I have always wondered why anyone would spend 20 million for a job that only pays 170K a year now. But each and every elected senator and presentative has left office a millionaire with the best medical and retirement package paid for by We The People.

Can we stop this fast paced fall into a socialist country, yes, but it will be painful. There will be riots in the streets as the free handout stop and people find that they have to work to eat.

We have a chance in 2012 to make a difference and maybe save our country, but we will see how many people are paying attention and want a great country again.

Guest
08-03-2011, 06:20 AM
The Villages Kahuna is right on the mark. Politicians in this congress are aggressively pursuing their sole goal, get re-elected at all costs. How else can congress suggest a solution of stop spending when every economist in the country agrees we have to spend, at least on the short term, then address a longer term reduction in overall spending. Of course, the markets clearly responded to congresses "compromise" (code for this will clearly screw everyone - but offers every politician plausible deniability). I for one will employ the "anti-incumbant" point of view in future elections. It may not be better but a message needs to be sent to Washington that says, be a responsible representative who can take a position intellectually honest to the promises made in their campaign for office. Joining and following dogmatic caucuses that only reflect retarded collective intelligence must cease. Let's ask our representatives the think for themselves and be personally accountable for their decisions.