Civil unrest

[Guest]

See attached link for a recent poll of the American people in regards to our Government and our politicians. I can believe it could be an accurate poll.

http://www.infowars.com/pollster-americans-are-pre-revolutionary/

Could this happen in the USA, I certainly hope not.

[Guest]

Is spreading on a worldwide basis. In third world countries the reason is hunger and starvation caused in no small part by our corn ethanol program. The removal of so much of one of the world's three principal grains (corn, rice and wheat) has caused a radical increase in the price of these most basic of all foods. While this is of no great consequence to us - we're rich by global standards - in places such as central Africa it is catastrophic.

Religious civil strife has manifested itself in the 'Arab Spring' throughout the Middle East. Our response has undermined our allies including Israel and encouraged anti-American dictators such as Assad in Syria. We've been totally ineffective in Libya demonstrating to the world our weakness and lack of resolve. The current riots in Britain are largely Muslim in makeup, yet the western press stands unwilling to speak the truth just as they are unwilling to connect the words terrorist and Islam.

Here in the United States, the recession has hit minority communities including illegals much harder than it has the rest of us. All it needs to galvanize the mobs is a trigger. I do not know what the trigger will be, but those of us who choose to think back to the riots following the MLK assassination know what can happen, though this time it may be worse by an order of magnitude. I hope I am wrong but fear the probable outcome.

[Guest]

...All it needs to galvanize the mobs is a trigger. I do not know what the trigger will be...It doesn't take much. I lived thru Detroit back in the 60's, the Chicago riots during the Democratic Convention in 1968, and most recently we saw how a bunch of overpaid but still upset government workers acted in Madison, WI. We saw how crazy the town hall meetings got before the vote on ObamaCare, on the very verge of something bad happening. There's more than enough bitter acrimony between the fringe political factions in this country for something like that to happen.

Unrest can spread very, very quickly. We're seeing it in London right now, all over an unconfirmed report that the police shot a young man.

You're right...all it takes is a trigger.

[Guest]

It doesn't take much. I lived thru Detroit back in the 60's, the Chicago riots during the Democratic Convention in 1968, and most recently we saw how a bunch of overpaid but still upset government workers acted in Madison, WI. We saw how crazy the town hall meetings got before the vote on ObamaCare, on the very verge of something bad happening. There's more than enough bitter acrimony between the fringe political factions in this country for something like that to happen.

Unrest can spread very, very quickly. We're seeing it in London right now, all over an unconfirmed report that the police shot a young man.

You're right...all it takes is a trigger.

It has been said many times by informed people that we are only 10 years or so behind England.:(

[Guest]

I feel I am taking a risk by posting this and certainly not being politically correct and being called a racist by folks (which is not new to me at all on here...you should read some of the PM's I received during the primary and election)......but

I fear for this kind of thing in this country......

When you hear the constant rattle of class warfare by the administration..they dont mention fixing the tax code for the most part, they talk about RICH versus POOR.

Then, when you analyze the last election results along with a comment I just heard this morning by analysts on MSNBC saying, as they were going through the states one of one, that the Obama team likes states and will spend money in states, that are poor and non white.

This kind of open talk has got to stop...they say it publicly and openly.

How long can this country allow that kind of pressure cooker to just boil ?

To those who are offended by this..I am sorry, but its time we talk about ALL americans and not separate them by money or color. It does NOT solve problems, it simply keeps them rolling around and makes them worse.

[Guest]

I see nothing wrong with your post and agree with it. People who do not like hearing the truth will call you or anybody a "racist" to try and shut you down. Did you know that when Obama campaigns in places that the citizens have a different dialect, Obama will mimic that dialect in his speeches? Does he ever get called on it? No. The media will say nothing.

OK. you politically correct ones out there can throw your rotten tomatoes at me now. :throwtomatoes:

[Guest]

I feel I am taking a risk by posting this and certainly not being politically correct and being called a racist by folks (which is not new to me at all on here...you should read some of the PM's I received during the primary and election)......but

I fear for this kind of thing in this country......

When you hear the constant rattle of class warfare by the administration..they dont mention fixing the tax code for the most part, they talk about RICH versus POOR.

Then, when you analyze the last election results along with a comment I just heard this morning by analysts on MSNBC saying, as they were going through the states one of one, that the Obama team likes states and will spend money in states, that are poor and non white.

This kind of open talk has got to stop...they say it publicly and openly.

How long can this country allow that kind of pressure cooker to just boil ?

To those who are offended by this..I am sorry, but its time we talk about ALL americans and not separate them by money or color. It does NOT solve problems, it simply keeps them rolling around and makes them worse.I'm not offended, Bucco. But I am disturbed by the direction our governments have been taking the country for some time. I've mentioned before that there's a "barbell effect" going on in our society--both the very wealthy and the very poor segments of our society are growing, leaving a smaller and smaller middle class.

It was the middle class that caused our economy to grow after WWII, to thrive and prosper. It was the middle class that taught their kids--our generation--to strive to seek a better education and standard of living than our folks did. The question now seems to be: is the declining middle class teaching their kids the same values? Can they be enthusiastic about the direction our country is headed?

Joe Scarborough, co-host of MSNBC's Morning Joe wrote an article very much worth reading on the subject entitled "The American Dream Hangs In The Balance". You can read it at the following link. I recommend it...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/60896_Page2.html

[Guest]

I feel I am taking a risk by posting this and certainly not being politically correct and being called a racist by folks (which is not new to me at all on here...you should read some of the PM's I received during the primary and election)......but

I fear for this kind of thing in this country......

When you hear the constant rattle of class warfare by the administration..they don't mention fixing the tax code for the most part, they talk about RICH versus POOR....

This kind of open talk has got to stop...they say it publicly and openly.

How long can this country allow that kind of pressure cooker to just boil ?

To those who are offended by this..I am sorry, but its time we talk about ALL americans and not separate them by money or color. It does NOT solve problems, it simply keeps them rolling around and makes them worse.

The way so-called liberals stir up hatred pointing at The Haves, telling the Have Nots they've been completely trampled upon and used like slaves, is a big part of this problem. They do not point out that The Haves have actually WORKED to get where they are.

Rioting, burning and looting going on in London is not so that The Have Nots can eat and pay their electric bill. It's going on to be able to break in and steal big flat TV's from the stores.....they were showing it yesterday and pointing that out.......THE ENTITLEMENT ATTITUDE of "you OWE me these goods without working to pay for them".

As for the racial crap being thrown, we need look no further than how so-called liberals have treated Condoleezza Rice like a dumb, "token black", while honest people know she is a poised, gracious, educated, moral, intelligent and talented woman who came from this:

"Rice was a Democrat until 1982 when she changed her political affiliation to Republican in part because she disagreed with the foreign policy of Democratic President Jimmy Carter, and because of the influence of her father, who was Republican. As she told the 2000 Republican National Convention, "My father joined our party because the Democrats in Jim Crow Alabama of 1952 would not register him to vote. The Republicans did..........

Rice herself said of the segregation era: "Those terrible events burned into my consciousness. I missed many days at my segregated school because of the frequent bomb threats."[90]

During the violent days of the Civil Rights Movement, Reverend Rice armed himself and kept guard over the house while Condoleezza practiced the piano inside. According to J.L. Chestnut, Reverend Rice called local civil rights leader Fred Shuttlesworth and his followers "uneducated, misguided Negroes."

Also, Reverend Rice instilled in his daughter and students that black people would have to prove themselves worthy of advancement, and would simply have to be "twice as good" to overcome injustices built into the system. Rice said “My parents were very strategic, I was going to be so well prepared, and I was going to do all of these things that were revered in white society so well, that I would be armored somehow from racism. I would be able to confront white society on its own terms.” While the Rices supported the goals of the civil rights movement, they did not agree with the idea of putting their child in harm's way.[90]

Rice was eight when her schoolmate Denise McNair, aged 11, was killed in the bombing of the primarily black Sixteenth Street Baptist Church by white supremacists on September 15, 1963. Rice has commented upon that moment in her life:

"I remember the bombing of that Sunday School at 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham in 1963. I did not see it happen, but I heard it happen, and I felt it happen, just a few blocks away at my father’s church. It is a sound that I will never forget, that will forever reverberate in my ears. That bomb took the lives of four young girls, including my friend and playmate, Denise McNair. The crime was calculated to suck the hope out of young lives, bury their aspirations. But those fears were not propelled forward, those terrorists failed."

— Condoleezza Rice, Commencement 2004, Vanderbilt University, May 13, 2004

Segregation also hardened her stance on the right to bear arms; Rice has said in interviews that if gun registration had been mandatory, her father's weapons would have been confiscated, leaving them defenseless against Ku Klux Klan nightriders............
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice

[Guest]

The way so-called liberals stir up hatred pointing at The Haves, telling the Have Nots they've been completely trampled upon and used like slaves, is a big part of this problem. They do not point out that The Haves have actually WORKED to get where they are.

Rioting, burning and looting going on in London is not so that The Have Nots can eat and pay their electric bill. It's going on to be able to break in and steal big flat TV's from the stores.....they were showing it yesterday and pointing that out.......THE ENTITLEMENT ATTITUDE of "you OWE me these goods without working to pay for them".

As for the racial crap being thrown, we need look no further than how so-called liberals have treated Condoleezza Rice like a dumb, "token black", while honest people know she is a poised, gracious, educated, moral, intelligent and talented woman who came from this:

"Rice was a Democrat until 1982 when she changed her political affiliation to Republican in part because she disagreed with the foreign policy of Democratic President Jimmy Carter, and because of the influence of her father, who was Republican. As she told the 2000 Republican National Convention, "My father joined our party because the Democrats in Jim Crow Alabama of 1952 would not register him to vote. The Republicans did..........

Rice herself said of the segregation era: "Those terrible events burned into my consciousness. I missed many days at my segregated school because of the frequent bomb threats."[90]

During the violent days of the Civil Rights Movement, Reverend Rice armed himself and kept guard over the house while Condoleezza practiced the piano inside. According to J.L. Chestnut, Reverend Rice called local civil rights leader Fred Shuttlesworth and his followers "uneducated, misguided Negroes."

Also, Reverend Rice instilled in his daughter and students that black people would have to prove themselves worthy of advancement, and would simply have to be "twice as good" to overcome injustices built into the system. Rice said “My parents were very strategic, I was going to be so well prepared, and I was going to do all of these things that were revered in white society so well, that I would be armored somehow from racism. I would be able to confront white society on its own terms.” While the Rices supported the goals of the civil rights movement, they did not agree with the idea of putting their child in harm's way.[90]

Rice was eight when her schoolmate Denise McNair, aged 11, was killed in the bombing of the primarily black Sixteenth Street Baptist Church by white supremacists on September 15, 1963. Rice has commented upon that moment in her life:

"I remember the bombing of that Sunday School at 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham in 1963. I did not see it happen, but I heard it happen, and I felt it happen, just a few blocks away at my father’s church. It is a sound that I will never forget, that will forever reverberate in my ears. That bomb took the lives of four young girls, including my friend and playmate, Denise McNair. The crime was calculated to suck the hope out of young lives, bury their aspirations. But those fears were not propelled forward, those terrorists failed."

— Condoleezza Rice, Commencement 2004, Vanderbilt University, May 13, 2004

Segregation also hardened her stance on the right to bear arms; Rice has said in interviews that if gun registration had been mandatory, her father's weapons would have been confiscated, leaving them defenseless against Ku Klux Klan nightriders............
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice

I am completely appalled at the race/class baiting that this president exercises. It is enough to have Dr. Martin Luther King spinning in his grave. The civil rights movement of the his era would be so incredibly ashamed of his behavior.

[Guest]

I am completely appalled at the race/class baiting that this president exercises. It is enough to have Dr. Martin Luther King spinning in his grave. The civil rights movement of the his era would be so incredibly ashamed of his behavior.

And the problem is that with you saying this, you are subject to the call of being a racist, while those who do the calling all the time are not.

It is completely out of balance and getting more so each day.

[Guest]

I'm not offended, Bucco. But I am disturbed by the direction our governments have been taking the country for some time. I've mentioned before that there's a "barbell effect" going on in our society--both the very wealthy and the very poor segments of our society are growing, leaving a smaller and smaller middle class.

It was the middle class that caused our economy to grow after WWII, to thrive and prosper. It was the middle class that taught their kids--our generation--to strive to seek a better education and standard of living than our folks did. The question now seems to be: is the declining middle class teaching their kids the same values? Can they be enthusiastic about the direction our country is headed?

Joe Scarborough, co-host of MSNBC's Morning Joe wrote an article very much worth reading on the subject entitled "The American Dream Hangs In The Balance". You can read it at the following link. I recommend it...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/60896_Page2.html

Read and enjoyed the link. I guess today is my time to not be politicallly correct, HOWEVER....

And I know I am oversimplifying it, but the jobs that Joe mentions have for the most part either gone overseas or been replaced by technology.

Overseas AND technology....something companies do to reduce costs and increase profits...WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO !

Unions have never, at least not much, done anything but ask for more money and more benefits. Imagine if much of what they asked for was TRAINING to keep up with technology and an understanding of these crazy wages and out of control pensions and their shoving jobs away from our country. Then add in NAFTA and you have what we have.

Again, I know I am oversimplifying it and know you are not supposed to blast the unions attitudes and ideas but it is what it is.

[Guest]

Thomas Sowell, Economist and author is one of the most respected people in America. He talks about race all the time. However his intent is to educate.

Spike Lee one of the most respected movie makers in Hollywood. He makes movies all the time about race all the time. His intent is to educate.

Most politicians engage in discussion about race all the time. Their intent is to explain the effect economics is having on different segments of our society.

A small segment of our society, and an apprently cowardly segment, utilizes political correctness regarding discussion of race thereby making it racist with the intent of stifling education.

Caveat: Its not the color of a person's skin that determines if what they do is right or wrong, its their character or lack thereof.

[Guest]

Thomas Sowell, Economist and author is one of the most respected people in America. He talks about race all the time. However his intent is to educate.

Spike Lee one of the most respected movie makers in Hollywood. He makes movies all the time about race all the time. His intent is to educate.

Most politicians engage in discussion about race all the time. Their intent is to explain the effect economics is having on different segments of our society.

A small segment of our society, and an apprently cowardly segment, utilizes political correctness regarding discussion of race thereby making it racist with the intent of stifling education.

Caveat: Its not the color of a person's skin that determines if what they do is right or wrong, its their character or lack thereof.

I certainly agree with much, not all of what you say !!

If "Most politicians engage in discussion about race all the time. Their intent is to explain the effect economics is having on different segments of our society."

AND

"Its not the color of a person's skin that determines if what they do is right or wrong, its their character or lack thereof"

THEN why is race mentioned in these conversations ?

I happen to agree with your Caveat....if it is acually economic and I believe it is, why make it racial ? Why lower the conversation to race because I agree...it has NOTHING to with the conversation !

[Guest]

Here is a good article from the U.K. in which the writer blames the riots on the social disintegration caused by liberal dogma.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2024284/UK-riots-2011-Liberal-dogma-spawned-generation-brutalised-youths.html

[Guest]

Yes, a society where the young have no role model and no moral compass. It is like President Johnson's war on poverty. Another generation of parasites with no respect for other people or people's property.
And worst yet, they have no self respect because they most of them never worked a day in their miserable lives.
Another prime example of liberal welfare dogma.