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Guest
08-20-2011, 09:30 AM
I just read that both Chris Christie and Jon Huntsman believe that global warning is a reality.
That should play well with the Republican Party. I applaud their courage to at least acknowledge the truth. :(

Guest
08-20-2011, 09:38 AM
I just read that both Chris Christie and Jon Huntsman believe that global warning is a reality.
That should play well with the Republican Party. I applaud their courage to at least acknowledge the truth. :(

Of course global warming is a reality. Of course global cooling is a reality. It has been going on for millions of years. Where there is deserts, there was once lakes and vise versa.
In the 70's the tree huggers were claiming we were in an ice age. How did that work out?
Most sensible scientists and regular citizens believe it is a natural occurrence. The power hungry, will tell you that it is a man-made issue.

Guest
08-20-2011, 11:14 AM
The Ice Age was supposed to happen because of the soot in our atmosphere that was building. The theory went that it would block out the sun in increasing amount and, hence, cooling would be a result. Like a pollution-induced version of the "nuclear winter" theory.

Well, we no longer HAVE that kind of soot in our atmosphere because the industrialized world has laregely cleaned up it's act.

We DO, however, still throw a lot of CO2 up there.

Do I believe that climate change is real? Yes.
Do I think we're the sole cause of it? No.
So I think we're aggravating it? Yes. How much? I don't know.

What I *do* know is that it would be a good idea to get off of fossil fuels as much as possible and try to migrate to a more electric economy. If you don't buy the 'climate change argument' (and the degrees of it are certainly in debate), you just can't deny the "stop sending money to petro-funded terrorists who want to kill us" argument.

Guest
08-20-2011, 11:17 AM
I just read that both Chris Christie and Jon Huntsman believe that global warning is a reality.
That should play well with the Republican Party. I applaud their courage to at least acknowledge the truth. :(

One of the main reasons I'm not a supporter of either one. The theory of "man made" global warming is the biggest scam ever run on the human race. There's not one shred of evidence to link man's activity to the planet warming, even if the warming is true. You want to know why the planet might be warming, I can help you. Step out your door. It's 12:15 PM as I write this. Look up; see that extremely bright thing in the sky that you can barely glance at, it's so bright? There's your answer. Class dismissed.

Guest
08-20-2011, 12:22 PM
One of the main reasons I'm not a supporter of either one. The theory of "man made" global warming is the biggest scam ever run on the human race. There's not one shred of evidence to link man's activity to the planet warming, even if the warming is true. You want to know why the planet might be warming, I can help you. Step out your door. It's 12:15 PM as I write this. Look up; see that extremely bright thing in the sky that you can barely glance at, it's so bright? There's your answer. Class dismissed.

:beer3: That is basically what I believe. The sun's activity controls our weather.

Guest
08-20-2011, 12:49 PM
says:

"Perhaps, finally, the unctuousness, sanctimony and sputtering righteousness of the highprofile environmentalists signal to most observers that they aren't really as certain of all this "science" as they pretend to be. Either way this long green game has lost its fundamental energies. The celebrities will find another wristband; the politicians will find a new vague distraction."
Read the whole thing here:

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/Global+warming+runs/5281757/story.html

Guest
08-20-2011, 01:02 PM
It is obvious at a local level people pollute...think dirty beaches, contaminated lakes, graffiti. However to beleive the folly of man made global warming is a stretch. A news report claims one global scientist speculates that man's destruction of the earth will get noticed by aliens and that they (aliens) are not going to be happy. If they show up I suggest we send them to see Al Gore since he has all the answers:D

Guest
08-20-2011, 01:18 PM
I wish I had the link where they showed how our air quality has gotten so much cleaner in the last 40 years. Emission controls on automobiles is one reason cited. I remember going to a major city in the 1960's and it really stunk. When I go to that city today, it smells clean.

Guest
08-20-2011, 03:13 PM
Blizzard Dumps Snow on Copenhagen as Leaders Battle Warming http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a5wStc0K6jhY

Do you think someone is trying to send us a message?

Guest
08-20-2011, 03:43 PM
...and he invented the Internet!

I think only one person has mentioned the hole in the atmosphere created by man-made CO2 destroying the ozone layer, permitting the sun to penetrate and warm the lower levels of the atmosphere, melting the polar ice cap, etc.

Have any of the naysayers presented evidence that the hole doesn't exist or that CO2 is not man-made?

Just asking.

Guest
08-20-2011, 04:44 PM
I just read that both Chris Christie and Jon Huntsman believe that global warning is a reality.
That should play well with the Republican Party. I applaud their courage to at least acknowledge the truth. :(

Just to clarify your post; Christie said he believes "climate change" is real when he vetoed bill (S2946) that would have required "New Jersey to stay in a regional program intended to curb greenhouse gases — a program Christie plans to leave by the end of the year — the governor said 'climate change is real.'

According to the article in NJ.com, "Christie's come full circle on the issue. Last year, he told a town hall audience in Toms River he was skeptical climate change is the result of human activity. He backed off those comments at a conference of environmentalists in May and agreed to meet with climate scientists for a lesson in global warming.

"Later that month, during a news conference announcing he would pull the state out of the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative, a 10-state partnership intended to curb power plant emissions of carbon dioxide, Christie took another step.

" 'I can’t claim to fully understand all of this,' he said. " 'Certainly not after just a few months of study. But when you have over 90 percent of the world’s scientists who have studied this stating that climate change is occurring and that humans play a contributing role it’s time to defer to the experts.' "

"He added that climate science is complex and 'we know enough to know that we are at least part of the problem.' "

I loved one of the comments following the article. It says, "90% of climate scientists that depend on government funding, say man is causing global warming. ...90% of public school teachers say that higher pay and more school funding will produce better students." LOL

So why is he leaving the program?






http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/08/gov_christie_admits_climate_ch.html

Guest
08-20-2011, 06:20 PM
...and he invented the Internet!

I think only one person has mentioned the hole in the atmosphere created by man-made CO2 destroying the ozone layer, permitting the sun to penetrate and warm the lower levels of the atmosphere, melting the polar ice cap, etc.

Have any of the naysayers presented evidence that the hole doesn't exist or that CO2 is not man-made?

Just asking.

Isn't CO2 the element vital to all the plant life on earth? Don't the aforementioned plants produce the oxygen that enables all animal life on earth? Isn't CO2 the gas that is expelled each time we breathe?

Any of this adding up to anyone?

Guest
08-20-2011, 07:17 PM
CO2 is not an element..it is a compound of one carbon atom and two oxygen atoms.

Guest
08-20-2011, 07:25 PM
If we had some global ...these two links say it all!:Dwarming...www.minnesotansfourglobalwarming.c om:D:D:Dhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJUFTm6cJXM:D

Guest
08-20-2011, 08:36 PM
CO2 is not an element..it is a compound of one carbon atom and two oxygen atoms.

whatever dude :blahblahblah: