Al-Qaida's No. 2 reported killed by US in Pakistan

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Bush couldn't do it in 7.5 years but President Obama takes out #1 and #2 in 2.5 years. Well done Mr. President. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

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Bush couldn't do it in 7.5 years but President Obama takes out #1 and #2 in 2.5 years. Well done Mr. President. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

Yes, well done. But just wait....someone will say it's a hoax....or that Obama can take no credit whatsoever...or some such nonsense. :yuck:

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If I remember correctly there were plenty of supposed Al Qaeda "number 2's" killed during Bush's term, as was this supposed Al Qaeda "number 2". Let's not rewrite history now.

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If I remember correctly there were plenty of supposed Al Qaeda "number 2's" killed during Bush's term, as was this supposed Al Qaeda "number 2". Let's not rewrite history now.

Rewrite history? Please share the names of the #1's and #2's that were killed with Bush?

I'm surprised I thought you would be excited to hear of our President's successes. It looks almost as if you want our President to fail. You do know that when our president fails WE fail as well.

Here is your chance, put down your paritican politics and congratulate OUR president. Come on now, turn off Fox News and say with me " Congratulations Mr. President. Job well done.". You can do it.:bigbow:

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Rewrite history? Please share the names of the #1's and #2's that were killed with Bush?

I'm surprised I thought you would be excited to hear of our President's successes. It looks almost as if you want our President to fail. You do know that when our president fails WE fail as well.

Here is your chance, put down your paritican politics and congratulate OUR president. Come on now, turn off Fox News and say with me " Congratulations Mr. President. Job well done.". You can do it.:bigbow:

Yea right, lets congratulate this President on our jobless rate and gigantic deficit he is giving our grandchildren. All the people in the unemployment line, say "Yipeeee". ( I liked the footage of Saddam Hussein crawling out of the rat-hole much better, thank-you.:crap2:

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Villagegolfer,
Ok, now tell me the truth, are you and Richielion the same person? Come on now, fess up.

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Why would people who have screamed for 10 years that "there is no war on terror, and there were no WMD's (going out the back door while UN inspectors were kept at bay at the front door)" be happy that key "terrorists" have been killed?!?!?? We've been told all this time none of these "peaceful mooselims" were a threat but yet, the anti-war crowd is happy to see key leaders killed.

It's kinda like how the Gitmo detainees were all so innocent and peaceloving and undeservng of incarceration, but when it came time to free them, no other nation with half a brain would accept them and so they remain there "innocent" "unjustly incarcerated".

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Why would people who have screamed for 10 years that "there is no war on terror, and there were no WMD's (going out the back door while UN inspectors were kept at bay at the front door)" be happy that key "terrorists" have been killed?!?!?? We've been told all this time none of these "peaceful mooselims" were a threat but yet, the anti-war crowd is happy to see key leaders killed.

It's kinda like how the Gitmo detainees were all so innocent and peaceloving and undeservng of incarceration, but when it came time to free them, no other nation with half a brain would accept them and so they remain there "innocent" "unjustly incarcerated".

Ilovetv,
Not sure how to respond to that one other than to say...... :ohdear:

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When the economy tanks, it is the policy of Bush that is responsible.

When the military does something good it is Obama's fault.

Think about that for a couple of minutes if you will.

If you can blame Bush for policies that were put in place before Obama got elected, Bush should take the credit for all military victories.

Only fair.;)

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When the economy tanks, it is the policy of Bush that is responsible.

When the military does something good it is Obama's fault.

Think about that for a couple of minutes if you will.

If you can blame Bush for policies that were put in place before Obama got elected, Bush should take the credit for all military victories.

Only fair.;)

Mr Villagegolfer,
I'm so glad you're concerned about fairness. Good on ya. Ok, then to continue with your logic:ohdear: Bush takes credit for all military victories as well as the great recession? It's only fair isn't it?

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Mr Villagegolfer,
I'm so glad you're concerned about fairness. Good on ya. Ok, then to continue with your logic:ohdear: Bush takes credit for all military victories as well as the great recession? It's only fair isn't it?

If Obama continues to blame the economy on Bush's policies, it is only fair to blame Bush for the military policies, right?;)

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Well, I know that in June 2005 Al Qaeda leader Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi was killed when U.S. warplanes dropped bombs on the house where he was staying, and that U.S., British, and Pakistani intelligence authorities prevented a terrorist plot to simultaneously blow up as many as 10 jets leaving Britain for the U.S. in August of 2005.

Also on Jan. 9, 2009, the leader of Al Qaeda in Pakistan, Usama al-Kini, and one of his aides were killed in an American air-strike. Usama al-Kini and his aide Sheikh Ahmed Salim Swedan, both Kenyan nationals, were killed by a missile fired by a US Predator drone in Pakistan, in a Taliban stronghold close to the Afghan border.

On Sept. 5, 2007 it was reported that Coalition forces killed the al-Qaeda in Iraq emir of the Arab Jabour area, who managed all terrorist attacks in the area south of Baghdad.

Now I admit that George Bush wasn't nearly as bloodthirsty in the utilization of unmanned drones in targeting suspected terrorists in sovereign countries that we consider allies, as is Barack Obama. But then, unlike what they did with Pres. Bush, the media gives Obama a free pass to conduct military operations in violation of an allies airspace and in their civilian communities. So he does have a little tactical advantage there.

Where is Cindy Sheehan, anyway?

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Let's see. Obama fans laud and praise him for killing al-Rahman (not the actual people on the ground and putting their lives at extreme risk, such as the SEALS and CIA)....but this article says senior Obama administration officials have been calling for decreased use of the drones. That certainly sounds to me like the CIA deserves more of the credit than Obama himself or his administration:

"WASHINGTON—A U.S. drone strike killed al Qaeda's no. 2 leader, Attiyah Abd al-Rahman, earlier this week in the tribal areas of Pakistan, in the biggest blow to the network since Osama bin Laden's death in May, officials said Saturday.....

The CIA frequently conducts drone strikes in the area but officials generally won't comment on the operations because they are covert.

Some senior current and former Obama administration officials have started raising questions about the U.S.'s heavy reliance on drones in the tribal areas of Pakistan. While effective against so-called high-value targets, these officials say the large number of strikes the CIA carries out targeting Taliban foot-soldiers deeply strains relations with Islamabad, jeopardizing broader cooperation. They have urged the CIA to be more "judicious" about using the drones.

Defenders of the drone program countered on Saturday that the death of Mr. Rahman showed why the pace of strikes must not be rolled back at this time.

"Dialing back on al Qaeda leadership in Pakistan, especially while they try to regroup after bin Laden's death, isn't the way to go. For the sake of our national security, they need to be knocked out for good," a U.S. official said."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904787404576534572852358298.html

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unbelievable. We kill the #2 terrorist and all you can do is argue over Bush and Obama. Sickening stuff.

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Well, Waynet, I do hate to say it but that is what the first posting was about - that Obama did something that Bush was not able to do.

Basically, I think we can all be appreciative of the military for doing good work - no matter who is President.

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Well, Waynet, I do hate to say it but that is what the first posting was about - that Obama did something that Bush was not able to do.

Basically, I think we can all be appreciative of the military for doing good work - no matter who is President.

Good for you Buggy. That was the premise of this post; to deride the former President. Sometimes people forget what they were discussing in the first place. Glad you're keeping things real.

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Good for you Buggy. That was the premise of this post; to deride the former President. Sometimes people forget what they were discussing in the first place. Glad you're keeping things real.

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I'm just curious. Where did all of these liberals come from? I thought TV was a bastion of conservatism.

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I'm just curious. Where did all of these liberals come from? I thought TV was a bastion of conservatism.

Not everyone on this forum lives in the Villages. But, for those that do, they come from all over the U.S. Even the "blue staters" know a good thing when they see it.:a040:

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I still say that Hussein Obama will take credit for policies the President Bush in place and in the same breath blame Bush for policies he put in place. I think Obama would not admit to anything he did wrong. I think Barry O. is a person with little or no character.

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Villagegolfer,
You didn't answer my post. Just wanted to see if you're consistant or not.

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I said that if Obama wants to credit Bush for his this lousy economy , he should be consistent and credit Bush for the military victories. If Obama was a real man he would take responsibility for his policies that contributed to this Depression, then people might take him serious for claiming military victories. Wasn't most of the military policies in place when he took office?

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I said that if Obama wants to credit Bush for his this lousy economy , he should be consistent and credit Bush for the military victories. If Obama was a real man he would take responsibility for his policies that contributed to this Depression, then people might take him serious for claiming military victories. Wasn't most of the military policies in place when he took office?

Not a real man?...oh yes, that's right....he's a black man. :cus:

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Not a real man?...oh yes, that's right....he's a black man. :cus:

Wow.:sad:

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Not a real man?...oh yes, that's right....he's a black man. :cus:


Hard to debate this... You're right, he's black.

Please explain why this has any relevance to anything ???

Just saying... I don't get it :undecided:

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Villagegolfer,
So what you're saying Obama should take responsibility for the great recession, give credit for any success in the war against terror to Bush?

How about Obama taking the blame for the hurricane that is currently hitting the east coast? How about global warming? Opps, there is no such thing as global warming. My bad!:laugh:

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Villagegolfer,
So what you're saying Obama should take responsibility for the great recession, give credit for any success in the war against terror to Bush?

How about Obama taking the blame for the hurricane that is currently hitting the east coast? How about global warming? Opps, there is no such thing as global warming. My bad!:laugh:

If he were "a real man" as VillageGolfer classified it, he would accept his huge share of culpability in the continuing economic decline in spite of his attempts to resuscitate with ill advised "stimulus", and he would also give credit where credit is due in regard to his utilizing and expanding the protocols of Pres. Bush's war on terror; which he campaigned strongly against as a presidential candidate.

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CMANN, I am glad to see you are remembering some of my phrases like "bastion of conservatives". Where did I come from, you ask? I lived in Silver Spring, Maryland, all my adult life and worked for 36 years at the Department of Veterans Affairs Central Office in Washington DC. Had a great career helping US veterans and the employees who serve them.

As for keeping it real on this forum, I just want to give appropriate credit where it is due. In the case of taking out the #2 terrorist, the credit goes to the military - not to a President. Not trying to be liberal on this posting. Not trying to be conservative on this posting. Just trying to be honest.

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Hard to debate this... You're right, he's black.

Please explain why this has any relevance to anything ???

Just saying... I don't get it :undecided:

i was just editorializing on the fact that so many people don't like obama and I believe the basis is race....as we all sadly know that in the era of slavery black males were considered less than "men".
I probably should not have posted that at all...perhaps way too damning and presumptious. My apologies.

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Villagegolfer,
So what you're saying Obama should take responsibility for the great recession, give credit for any success in the war against terror to Bush?

How about Obama taking the blame for the hurricane that is currently hitting the east coast? How about global warming? Opps, there is no such thing as global warming. My bad!:laugh:

Let's begin by stating it took a hurricane directed at New England to get Obama to leave Martha's Vineyard and his vacation. But then it is not pleasant to play golf in the wind and rain..tends to raise the golf scores.

Secondly hrricanes have been around for a very long time tracking the same path up the eastern seaboard. To imply that hurricanes are created by global warming is like saying Neptune rules the seas.

Third I will give Obama credit for not dismantling many of Bush's Admin policies concerning dealing with and hunting down terrorist; despite the fact that he did so very reluctantly.

Fourth the real credit goes to the men and women whom have dedicated their lives in this pursuit, placing themselves in harms way daily.

Fifth I am saddened that some people still hang on to the belief that an unfavorable opinion of Obama has to do with his race rather than his idealogy.

Sixth political debate is healthy as long as we remember that at the end of the debate we remain friends:)

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Villagegolfer,
So what you're saying Obama should take responsibility for the great recession, give credit for any success in the war against terror to Bush?

How about Obama taking the blame for the hurricane that is currently hitting the east coast? How about global warming? Opps, there is no such thing as global warming. My bad!:laugh:

Well, we all know that President Bush and Vice President Cheney used their Hurricane Machine to create Katrina because they didn't like black people.:ohdear:

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Not a real man?...oh yes, that's right....he's a black man. :cus:

if I were to say that this was the typical response of the liberal would I be wrong?

I think that constant race baiting is terrible.

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Yes, you would be wrong, CMANN. It is just one responder's post. Don't judge all "liberals" by postings of one person - just as we "liberals" do not judge all "conservatives" by the ranting any single "conservative" poster.

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Reading the first post and the first page I have one thing to say.All the wars and the terrorists being killed is nothing more than a deversion to keep people from really thinking about the overall plan of the real powers . I have stated my theory before not going to restate it.

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Just thinking about how B. Hussein Obama lucked out with this non-hurricane. It took the focus off his expensive vacation with the rich and famous. He was more comfortable golfing and eating ice cream and partying while the USA goes down the tubes.

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What the hell.....Nero fiddled while Rome burned. :cus:

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What the hell.....Nero fiddled while Rome burned. :cus:

Yea, I see the comparison. Yes I do.barf

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Not a real man?...oh yes, that's right....he's a black man. :cus:

Everyone who grew up in this society knows the meaning of a "real man" is one who steps up to the plate like a grownup, and owns up to his mistakes.

This constant accusation of racism against anyone who disagrees with Obama is a scorched-earth, leave no flesh on bones assault.....lye thrown in the face of any political opponent even mildly right of center these days.

It has got to STOP.

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This constant accusation of racism against anyone who disagrees with Obama is a scorched-earth, leave no flesh on bones assault.....lye thrown in the face of any political opponent even mildly right of center these days.


Yeah, there are plenty of people out there who are quick to play the race card. But, by the same token, there are those out there of whom you just have to wonder the motivation.

For the most part, it looks like hyperpartisanship to me. Like when the GOP suggests something, and that makes it good but when Obama says it's a good idea, suddenly it's awful (like before the big part of the debt ceiling debacle, the original budget debate from last year when the GOP thought $150B was a good 'down payment' but when Obama did it, it was 'a drop in the bucket and not enough')

Even so, there are some real loonies out there on both sides.

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Yeah, there are plenty of people out there who are quick to play the race card. But, by the same token, there are those out there of whom you just have to wonder the motivation.

For the most part, it looks like hyperpartisanship to me. Like when the GOP suggests something, and that makes it good but when Obama says it's a good idea, suddenly it's awful (like before the big part of the debt ceiling debacle, the original budget debate from last year when the GOP thought $150B was a good 'down payment' but when Obama did it, it was 'a drop in the bucket and not enough')

Even so, there are some real loonies out there on both sides.

Give us all a break, Please? Most people I know hated Jimi Carter. Was it because he is white. I have zero respect for people who use the race card because some people just plain old don't like Obama. Obama's policies are terrible regardless od his color or lack of color. Remember, he is half white. But personally I would dislike him if he was purple.