Republican Bashing Debate

[Guest]

It's 9:05 PM as I write this and it seems to me that the bashing of and incitement to provoke infighting is rampant by Brian Williams and the guy from Politico. It's especially hostile toward Gov. Perry. The attempt to get Perry and Romney to fight is interesting. They LOVE Huntsman it seems. He gets no contentious question and is handed a softball every time.

[Guest]

It's 9:05 PM as I write this and it seems to me that the bashing of and incitement to provoke infighting is rampant by Brian Williams and the guy from Politico. It's especially hostile toward Gov. Perry. The attempt to get Perry and Romney to fight is interesting. They LOVE Huntsman it seems. He gets no contentious question and is handed a softball every time.

Richie, what channel is this on?

[Guest]

Why not questions on job creation specifics. The moderators are trying for too much "gotcha" questioning. I would like specifics solutions discussed. Or, am i missing something? Maybe they don't really want to hear "solutions". Might stir the listener in ways they don't want?

[Guest]

Richie, what channel is this on?

MSNBC...........bleh. Channel 56 on Comcast

[Guest]

MSNBC...........bleh

I will not watch that station. I have it on my ignore list.;)

[Guest]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QK3Eo9cScEQ

[Guest]

I will not watch that station. I have it on my ignore list.;)

This is the only reason I would watch MSNBC. I'm already restless. I hate sitting in front of the TV.

[Guest]

This is the only reason I would watch MSNBC. I'm already restless. I hate sitting in front of the TV.

I'm watching a movie that I recorded last week from TCM. Blackboard Jungle. I'm waiting for Glenn Ford to kick Vic Morrow around. Good flick.

[Guest]

I'm watching a movie that I recorded last week from TCM. Blackboard Jungle. I'm waiting for Glenn Ford to kick Vic Morrow around. Good flick.

"He's crazy, he's high, he's flying on Sneaky Pete wine!"; Love that flick

[Guest]

Tonight was not a debate. Bryan Williams and whoever the other guy was had only one objective....to confront the participants and gode them to tangle with each other.
Bryan Williams is the poster child for a network that leaves under God out of commercials....and does not include mentions of Christ in recent glory to a war veteran...he is all about what partisan, party line, protect Obama, mis-information and leaving out any information that does not toe the NBC "PARTY" line.

I applaud Gingrich for calling Bryan on the tactics being used.

And I think the participants did a fairly good job of finessing Bryan's goding and getting their message across.

That is the first time I have ever watched msnbc....because I am more interested in the candidates than I am the network.

btk

[Guest]

Tonight was not a debate. Bryan Williams and whoever the other guy was had only one objective....to confront the participants and gode them to tangle with each other.
Bryan Williams is the poster child for a network that leaves under God out of commercials....and does not include mentions of Christ in recent glory to a war veteran...he is all about what partisan, party line, protect Obama, mis-information and leaving out any information that does not toe the NBC "PARTY" line.

I applaud Gingrich for calling Bryan on the tactics being used.

And I think the participants did a fairly good job of finessing Bryan's goding and getting their message across.

That is the first time I have ever watched msnbc....because I am more interested in the candidates than I am the network.

btk

Blackboard Jungle was probably better.

[Guest]

I still say Perry is not an American, but a Texan. Thats OK if he stays in Texas, but please don't turn him loose on the whole country. Huntsman showed me some points of quality and even some from Paul. My choice is still Romney. Even if Perry is selected, he will not beat Obama. Sorry fellow conservatives, but I just don't like the man.

:spoken:

:duck:

[Guest]

That doggone lamestream media. When will people wake up and realize they are just a political arm of the Democratic party or even worse, socialists. Praise the Lord we have Fox Noise to combat them. :cus:

[Guest]

Fig Newton's comment about trying to get the Republicans to fight amongst themselves was ridiculous. Brian Williams should have responsed with we are trying to see differences between the Republican candidates.

Was Michelle Bachmann decrying the use of all school required vaccines such as smallpox, polio, or whooping cough by saying it is a parent's right to get their children vaccinated? Just what we need in the world is another outbreak of those diseases that were eradicated by vaccines - and required by law to attend school.

Rick Perry still is behind the time about global warming. Scientists (with credentials from other places than FOX News) have decided that global climate change is man-made.

Romney stood up pretty good. Still my choice of any Republican. Ron Paul is a crackpot as is Bachmann. Gingrich is useless. Santorum is a Gingrich puppet. Huntsman was also okay. Cain is out of his league but obviously has ideas.

[Guest]

Blackboard Jungle is a great move to watch on TCM. Vic Morrow made a very convincing "hood", didn't he? One of my favorite television shows was "Combat" starring Vic Morrow as the grizzled sergeant of his WWII platoon.

I sure would rather watch shows like that than the "Dancing with the Stars" or "Big Brother's House".

[Guest]

Fig Newton's comment about trying to get the Republicans to fight amongst themselves was ridiculous. Brian Williams should have responsed with we are trying to see differences between the Republican candidates.

Was Michelle Bachmann decrying the use of all school required vaccines such as smallpox, polio, or whooping cough by saying it is a parent's right to get their children vaccinated? Just what we need in the world is another outbreak of those diseases that were eradicated by vaccines - and required by law to attend school.

Rick Perry still is behind the time about global warming. Scientists (with credentials from other places than FOX News) have decided that global climate change is man-made.

Romney stood up pretty good. Still my choice of any Republican. Ron Paul is a crackpot as is Bachmann. Gingrich is useless. Santorum is a Gingrich puppet. Huntsman was also okay. Cain is out of his league but obviously has ideas.

Come one now buggy. Climategate is almost 2 years old. Surely (don't call me shirley) you do not still believe that man has caused global warming. I thought you were a learned guy. Don't you know the Green Movement's True Colors?
Watermelons: Green on the outside and red on the inside.

[Guest]

Fig Newton's comment about trying to get the Republicans to fight amongst themselves was ridiculous. Brian Williams should have responsed with we are trying to see differences between the Republican candidates.

Was Michelle Bachmann decrying the use of all school required vaccines such as smallpox, polio, or whooping cough by saying it is a parent's right to get their children vaccinated? Just what we need in the world is another outbreak of those diseases that were eradicated by vaccines - and required by law to attend school.

Rick Perry still is behind the time about global warming. Scientists (with credentials from other places than FOX News) have decided that global climate change is man-made.

Romney stood up pretty good. Still my choice of any Republican. Ron Paul is a crackpot as is Bachmann. Gingrich is useless. Santorum is a Gingrich puppet. Huntsman was also okay. Cain is out of his league but obviously has ideas.

I think you saw that totally wrong and Newt was absolutely correct. The biased moderators asked very little substantive questions. They were dwelling on the negatives and trying to get the candidates to blast each other. They had a little success getting the 2 frontrunners to do so. I think they were purposely trying to get them to damage each other instead of finding out specifics of how they would govern.

Rick Perry is correct about man made global warming. There is no definitive scientific evidence to prove it. It's not a settled scientific fact. Just cause you say so doesn't make it so.

Your last paragraph is very flawed. Also I'm suspicious of any Republican a guy as leftist as you thinks is peachy. (with all due respect)

[Guest]

That doggone lamestream media. When will people wake up and realize they are just a political arm of the Democratic party or even worse, socialists. Praise the Lord we have Fox Noise to combat them. :cus:

:girlneener: fox noise...good one!

[Guest]

IF what you say is true about the "debate" on MSNBC was a planned event for bashing the Republican candidates (and I do not think it went down like that) - why did the Republican candidates bother to attend? Maybe they should have figured that a liberal station like MSNBC would try to just get them to turn on each other and would not attend. Why didn't FOX have them on their staton with the FOX moderators as the hosts?

It gave Americans a chance to see the characters running - so far - and to get a very brief look at their views.

I would still like to get the viewpoints on Michelle Bachmann being upset that children are required to have vaccinations before attending school.

No one put their foot in their mouth. No gaffes. Big winner, in my viewpoint, was Jon Huntsman with Mitt Romney coming in second. Santorum was definitely dead-last.

[Guest]

Buggy, Jon Huntsman should be running as Obama's Vice President.
I, too, have wondered why the Republicans always agree to debates moderated by liberals. Someone pointed out to me that it would be hard to find journalists that aren't liberal. I had to agree.

[Guest]

Mickey Mouse wears a Keith Olbermann watch.:jester:

[Guest]

IF what you say is true about the "debate" on MSNBC was a planned event for bashing the Republican candidates (and I do not think it went down like that) - why did the Republican candidates bother to attend? Maybe they should have figured that a liberal station like MSNBC would try to just get them to turn on each other and would not attend. Why didn't FOX have them on their staton with the FOX moderators as the hosts?

It gave Americans a chance to see the characters running - so far - and to get a very brief look at their views.

I would still like to get the viewpoints on Michelle Bachmann being upset that children are required to have vaccinations before attending school.

No one put their foot in their mouth. No gaffes. Big winner, in my viewpoint, was Jon Huntsman with Mitt Romney coming in second. Santorum was definitely dead-last.

John Huntsman was handled with kid gloves for some reason. The liberal commentators must like him a lot, as you do. Unlike everyone else he was not challenged on any topic and only given open ended questions on which to pontificate. They were so sure of him they even gave him a question asking him to bash the others near the end. Very astutely, he refused to comply. He's about as Republican as you are.

The only good points the candidates got in was accomplished by ignoring what the 2 liberal commentators were trying to get them to say and saying what they wanted to say about their candidacy. (I guess I should say 3 liberal commentators including that guy from Telemundo who tried to get the candidates to say something damaging to themselves about illegal immigration.)

[Guest]

I can see what you are saying - so why didn't FOX have the "debate" on their network with their own commentators?

Personally, I enjoyed the chance to see all of them together.

It will be very interesting to see who the final President and VP candidates will be for the Republicans. If either of them is too far to the right such as Bachmann or Perry, kiss it good-bye for 4 more years. If either of them is Evangelical like Santorum, kiss it good-bye. Romney and Huntsman as a ticket might work.

[Guest]

I can see what you are saying - so why didn't FOX have the "debate" on their network with their own commentators?

Personally, I enjoyed the chance to see all of them together.

It will be very interesting to see who the final President and VP candidates will be for the Republicans. If either of them is too far to the right such as Bachmann or Perry, kiss it good-bye for 4 more years. If either of them is Evangelical like Santorum, kiss it good-bye. Romney and Huntsman as a ticket might work.

There are supposed to be a few more debates. I don't know the venue for them. We shall see what we shall see.

Ron Paul and some others disagree with your view of Perry. They say he "ain't no conservative" Amazing how everyone looks at something and sees something different.

Romney/Huntsman?; Why would I want that? Everything we run moderate candidates they lose. Gerald Ford, Bob Dole and John McCain were all "moderates" and they went down in flames. I don't want a candidate that liberals like. I want a candidate that makes you say OMG!!

Still, like I held my nose and pulled the lever for McCain, I will vote for whoever is running against this failed President.

[Guest]

On September 22nd there is going to be a debate sponsored by FNC, Google and the Florida GOP. It is being held in Orlando. You can submit questions at FOX News.com

[Guest]

I bet a couple of those candidates will make a stop in The Villages if they are going to be in Orlando.

Anyone going to go see Dickie Cheney at Savannah Center on the 14th?

[Guest]

I bet a couple of those candidates will make a stop in The Villages if they are going to be in Orlando.

Anyone going to go see Dickie Cheney at Savannah Center on the 14th?

The Villages is a friendly stop, for the Republican candidate photo-op. (I'm a closet poet)

No, I don't think so. I'll save my money for a more relevant Republican.

[Guest]

I bet a couple of those candidates will make a stop in The Villages if they are going to be in Orlando.

Anyone going to go see Dickie Cheney at Savannah Center on the 14th?

Of course not....but I read that all the tickets were gone. So glad to let someone else have ones I could have gotten. Had enough of him...my favorite was when a reporter said something like 60% of Americans were against the war in Iraq and his response was "SO?" Condie also has said he misrepresented events concerning her in his book....Have fun you guys seeing him.....

[Guest]

Cheney..even if he paid me I wouldn't waste my time.

[Guest]

I think it was better to have the debate on MSNBC with Brian Williams. If it had been on Fox "noise", as some of the posters on this forum so affectionately refer to Fox News, the left would currently be making comments on how Fox coddled and lobbed softballs at their own little darlings...Yep, the way it happened was better.

[Guest]

Katz, several weeks ago there was a debate sponsored by FNC. There were no soft ball questions. Newt complained about "gotcha" questions. I thought at the time that liberal journalists would never ask Democrats hardball questions like FOX was asking the Repiublicans. Of course, one of the moderators was Chris Wallace. Hardly a Republican.

[Guest]

Cheney..even if he paid me I wouldn't waste my time.

Ah, again you honor us with your wit and wisdom. Your are a diamond in the rough, fer sure.

[Guest]

Village Golfer, when are you going to join us for a couple of cold Yeunglings?

[Guest]

Village Golfer, when are you going to join us for a couple of cold Yeunglings?

Anytime you feel the need for friendly civil discussion. You might be surprised when we meet.;)

[Guest]

Tomorrow, Friday, at Glenview CC around 3 pm would be good for me. How about it?

Let me know if you will be there. I am always up for a meet and greet over a beer or two.

[Guest]

Tomorrow, Friday, at Glenview CC around 3 pm would be good for me. How about it?

Let me know if you will be there. I am always up for a meet and greet over a beer or two.

LOL I don't know about tomorrow. I know we have golf in the morning and right now my bride is sleeping off the festivities at Lake Sumter. Rocky and the Rollers were really good tonight.
I really like Glenview's Sunday brunch. My golfing buddies and me try to go there when we can.

Thank-you for the invite but I will not know if it is feasible until tomorrow.

Stay tuned.;)

[Guest]

Katz, several weeks ago there was a debate sponsored by FNC. There were no soft ball questions. Newt complained about "gotcha" questions. I thought at the time that liberal journalists would never ask Democrats hardball questions like FOX was asking the Repiublicans. Of course, one of the moderators was Chris Wallace. Hardly a Republican.

I was just saying that the liberals would accuse Fox of taking it easy on them...not that it would truly happen that way.

[Guest]

Yes, it is always easier to say the "debate" was not very good because the moderator just tried to get the candidates to fight amongst themselves.

Shifting the blame is always a good technique - and Republicans have used it very well since President Obama was elected by a majority of Americans.

Now, who is going to be first to whine in with their "but President Obama blames the former administration all the time"? Got to be at least one of those coming.

[Guest]

Yes, it is always easier to say the "debate" was not very good because the moderator just tried to get the candidates to fight amongst themselves.

Shifting the blame is always a good technique - and Republicans have used it very well since President Obama was elected by a majority of Americans.

Now, who is going to be first to whine in with their "but President Obama blames the former administration all the time"? Got to be at least one of those coming.

I just wish they would ask questions that enable us to understand what these candidates plan to accomplish, and how they plan to, in a clearer way.

The best thing about the debate was the times that the candidates took the debate back by refusing to answer the "gotcha" questions and said what they wanted to say. Newt Gingrich was masterful at that, and to a lesser extent, so was Michelle Bachmann. Rick Perry, after a bad start by taking the bait to attack Romney, showed strength of conviction and refused to be badgered as evidenced by his defense of Texas' capital punishment laws.

[Guest]

Yes, it is always easier to say the "debate" was not very good because the moderator just tried to get the candidates to fight amongst themselves.

Shifting the blame is always a good technique - and Republicans have used it very well since President Obama was elected by a majority of Americans.

Now, who is going to be first to whine in with their "but President Obama blames the former administration all the time"? Got to be at least one of those coming.


OK "but President Obama blames the former administration all the time"

Q: What's the difference between a liberal and a puppy?

A: A puppy stops whining after it grows up.

[Guest]

So is anyone that disagrees with the tea party defined as a "liberal"? Just askin...

[Guest]

So is anyone that disagrees with the tea party defined as a "liberal"? Just askin...

I don't think, judging by your previous quotes on TOTV that you have any inkling what the Tea Party stands for. So there's no way to answer that question, for you.

[Guest]

I've heard from many of your tea party locals,some are my friends that I play golf with regularly..I feel I have a firm grasp of the tea party mantra. In theory it is excellent, unfortunately the party has morphed into what it is today and yes I've been to tea party meetings with the candidate for governor of Pa and a congressional candidate from Va so I know what it started out as..My question is related to the fact, that as I read these many posts from you and your cronies, I never see any description of any person from other party affiliations referred to other than "liberal"..A good friend of mine(republican) has the mistaken impression that all democrats are liberal, and that just isn't true..

Anyone that has studied what has taken place in dc in the last year,especially in the last three months,should be very angry..the road ahead is not going to be easy and it is time for clear thinking, not idealism at any cost.

[Guest]

I've heard from many of your tea party locals,some are my friends that I play golf with regularly..I feel I have a firm grasp of the tea party mantra. In theory it is excellent, unfortunately the party has morphed into what it is today and yes I've been to tea party meetings with the candidate for governor of Pa and a congressional candidate from Va so I know what it started out as..My question is related to the fact, that as I read these many posts from you and your cronies, I never see any description of any person from other party affiliations referred to other than "liberal"..A good friend of mine(republican) has the mistaken impression that all democrats are liberal, and that just isn't true..

Anyone that has studied what has taken place in dc in the last year,especially in the last three months,should be very angry..the road ahead is not going to be easy and it is time for clear thinking, not idealism at any cost.

Y'all know this to be a fact.

[Guest]

Y'all know this to be a fact.

bait...bait....bait

[Guest]

..the road ahead is not going to be easy and it is time for clear thinking, not idealism at any cost.

TOTALLY AGREE!...Someone needs let all the progressives who are running our country into the ground know this!

[Guest]

Someone needs to remind the Teaparty of the same thing. Their rhetoric is turning voters off. Just the same blah, blah, blah.

[Guest]

Someone needs to remind the Teaparty of the same thing. Their rhetoric is turning voters off. Just the same blah, blah, blah.

AMEN brother.

[Guest]

Someone needs to remind the Teaparty of the same thing. Their rhetoric is turning voters off. Just the same blah, blah, blah.

Like I said, we'll see. Wishing and hoping don't make it true.

[Guest]

Don't ya think what is being said about the Tea Party can be said about any other political group(s)? It all depends on which quorum where what gets said doesn't quite fit and then, depending on which group/target it is, the media will put a 100 power magnifying glass and a 1000 watt amplifier on the issue.

It all depends who said or did what and where and who was listening and which axes they selectively choose to sharpen.

All groups should be so pure as to honor their intents and purposes 100% of the time...let alone satisfy the selective knit pickers.

btk

[Guest]

Someone needs to remind the Teaparty of the same thing. Their rhetoric is turning voters off. Just the same blah, blah, blah.

It didn't turn the voters off in 2010 and it will not in 2012. Obama gives us ammo every day he is in the White House.

[Guest]

It didn't turn the voters off in 2010 and it will not in 2012. Obama gives us ammo every day he is in the White House.

The Democrats strategy is to convince the people that they desperately need bigger and bigger government in their lives to protect them from the evils of an unchecked "world economy".

[Guest]

It didn't turn the voters off in 2010 and it will not in 2012. Obama gives us ammo every day he is in the White House.

Tea Party was a novelty. People are now seeing them for what they are. Adios.
:cus:

[Guest]

I watched the debate from my hospital bed thank God. Otherwise I would have lost it. Truthfully I did not believe any of the Repiblican did well. I do extend congrats to Newt because he was right that Williams was trying to divide and conquer. And it was tacky that the station sent in a hidden Hispanic questioner to ask an Hispanic related question.....Really?

Huntsman is a RINO He is more Democratic in his appraoch and as time passes he will show through. Its why the liberal media shows him well

I just can't get on board with Rommney because I just feel he is telling Republicans what they want to hear and I see him much more liberal then headmit.

Perry needs to pull back on his rhetoric. hell and brimstone don't set well in
Vermont

Newt is the smartest guy there

Bachmann will never get a break

[Guest]

Tea Party was a novelty. People are now seeing them for what they are. Adios.
:cus:

Was that what you dreamed last night?:laugh:

[Guest]

Tea Party was a novelty. People are now seeing them for what they are. Adios.
:cus:

They said that after the real Tea Party and they went out and kicked some British butt. That's how we got our own country. And now we have to do the same thing at the voting both and take America back again.:spoken:

[Guest]

...and more blah, blah, blah.

[Guest]

...and more blah, blah, blah.

When found in an unbeatable position in debate, liberals tend to spout sentences upon sentence of meaningless words while saying absolutely nothing of significance for their side of the argument.
Here is a liberal who cannot structure a sentence. Pathetic? You be the judge.;)

[Guest]

You fearless 6 still refuse to talk of facts...You just attack and blame the world's ills on the pesident that the MAJORITY of Americans voted in,and will again...

[Guest]

Yes he won. And yes an election outcome can be determined by as little as one vote. So please do not distort the reality of Obama's winning as representative of "the majority" elected him. He won by 2%!!!! Which is easily accounted for by the registered voters who did not vote. THEY allowed Obama a win......NOT THE majority.....48% VS 52% is not a MAJORITY of anything. It is a win and when all gets said and done it is a win. But I doubt seriously the MAJORITY, in addition to the rest of the realists who believed what he was peddaling back then will let that happen again.

btk

[Guest]

You fearless 6 still refuse to talk of facts...You just attack and blame the world's ills on the pesident that the MAJORITY of Americans voted in,and will again...

As been said, 2% win. What facts do you want to talk about?

Here is one the OLM (old left media) does not show very often:

http://www.newgeography.com/content/002420-the-die-hard-recession-heads-off-the-charts

http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/2011/09/09/shut-up-he-explained

[Guest]

Yes he won. And yes an election outcome can be determined by as little as one vote. So please do not distort the reality of Obama's winning as representative of "the majority" elected him. He won by 2%!!!! Which is easily accounted for by the registered voters who did not vote. THEY allowed Obama a win......NOT THE majority.....48% VS 52% is not a MAJORITY of anything. It is a win and when all gets said and done it is a win. But I doubt seriously the MAJORITY, in addition to the rest of the realists who believed what he was peddaling back then will let that happen again.

btk

Excuse me, but Bush won by 2% over Kerry and declared he had a MANDATE! and was going to use it......

Good for the goose, good for the gander.

[Guest]

They said that after the real Tea Party and they went out and kicked some British butt. That's how we got our own country. And now we have to do the same thing at the voting both and take America back again.:spoken:

The original Tea Party took the British by surprise, because they did what no one thought them capable of!

[Guest]

I wasn't proposing/advocating/intimating/alluding what was right or what was wrong. Merely pointing to the fact that Obama won by ONLY 2%...and that yes that is a win as is winning by one. And that the real cause of Obama winning was the voters who stayed home and did not vote.

Merely the reality of the circumstance. Somehow there always seems to be a partisan need for a retrospective tit for tat. I am not sure what it has to do with the CURRENT dialogue.

btk

[Guest]

I wasn't proposing/advocating/intimating/alluding what was right or what was wrong. Merely pointing to the fact that Obama won by ONLY 2%...and that yes that is a win as is winning by one. And that the real cause of Obama winning was the voters who stayed home and did not vote.

Merely the reality of the circumstance. Somehow there always seems to be a partisan need for a retrospective tit for tat. I am not sure what it has to do with the CURRENT dialogue.

btk

Because..................that's all they got.

[Guest]

:beer3::beer3::beer3:Because..................that 's all they got.

[Guest]

Hey ritchie,
Sad to see the search party came up empty handed..

[Guest]

I wasn't proposing/advocating/intimating/alluding what was right or what was wrong. Merely pointing to the fact that Obama won by ONLY 2%...and that yes that is a win as is winning by one. And that the real cause of Obama winning was the voters who stayed home and did not vote.

Merely the reality of the circumstance. Somehow there always seems to be a partisan need for a retrospective tit for tat. I am not sure what it has to do with the CURRENT dialogue.

btk

Just trying to show some balance........

[Guest]

Because..................that's all they got.

It's not all we got, but we do have good memories of what Bush did. We won't forget and sometimes you all need to be reminded of what we had before.

My dislike of Bush started here: He said he was running as a Washington outsider. I almost split a gut laughing at that one. Son of a a former CIA director,vice president and president; grandson of a senator. Oh PLEASE!! Then what does he do when he is "elected" (I will not allow myself to get sucked into THAT discussion)? He appoints a bunch of daddy's old cronies and cabinet members to his cabinet. Washington outsider my *** I said it started there, so I will stick to just this one point.

[Guest]

Sounds like business as usual in Washington to most of us. It doesn't matter who the candidate or whether there is an R or a D or anything else after their name...they will and do say ANYTHING they think the party faithful want to hear. Obama just happens to be the most recent. And too many of you don't remember back beyond Bush because the 24/7, slanted media was not as prevalent then as it is now. Because if you could make a comparison back beyond Bush you would be saying, like Bush and all before him, Obama is nothing more than saying what the people want to hear, delivering on not much of what was said.

And of course there difference in addition to the 24/7 slanted media we have the ever present partisan mania that feel obligated to spend time on everything except the current issues. Partisan politicking is no more credible than political correctness...both are concepts designed to avoid the reality of the here and now and calling, doing saying what is right.

btk

[Guest]

I actually think the major television networks are the most responsible for alot of this partisan cable shows.Viewers were driven from their shows in droves because of the slant. Shows like Law and Order would throw their shots every chance they had. Years ago I would watch Johnny Carson before retiring to bed. Then Jay Leno comes out with his monologues consisting of hateful George Bush Jokes. Funny, he didn't do many Obama jokes when is got elected.
The major TV shows lost their audience and most are gone now replaced by reality shows. Good drama is hard to find on TV.
The point I'm making is that partisan cable shows filled a void created by the major networks. Heck, the few times I turn on the television is for sports or Turner Classic Movies. I confess that will will watch Bill O'Reilly once in awhile.;)

[Guest]

Villagegolfer, I use to watch all the Law and Order shows. One night I just stopped watching, right in the middle of a show. I just had enough of the Republican and Bush bashing. Haven't seen an episode since.
Johnny Carson slammed Republicans all the time. David Letterman is worse than all of them, in my opinion.

[Guest]

Hmm.. Maybe it's good that I only watch the UK version :)

[Guest]

The dems flagship network = NBC

And the poster boy and Obama promoter winner is Brian Williams!!

The networks play to the current admins positives attributes only in the same manner they played to Bush's negative attributes only. If they measured each with the same optics the commentary would be not very dissimilar!!

It is so blatant it is disgusting!!

btk