No campaign signs allowed ???

[Spectreron]

I just read that campaign signs are not allowed....Isn't this still America? You have to be kidding me !

[The Villager II]

I just read that campaign signs are not allowed....Isn't this still America? You have to be kidding me !

There is a Home Owners Association here. They won't even let me keep my car on concrete blocks in the front yard so I can work on it once I get the time.

[LivingLarge]

I just read that campaign signs are not allowed....Isn't this still America? You have to be kidding me !

Ah, the good ole days of having signs in every other yard for 10 months every 4 years. Let's get this changed so I can put a Dalmatian on my fire hydrant.

[Posh 08]

It's political sign time here in my county. Come buy my house and you can enjoy the cardboard p.....g match to your hearts contents. :spoken: :a040:

[The Villager II]

It's political sign time here in my county. Come buy my house and you can enjoy the cardboard p.....g match to your hearts contents. :spoken: :a040:

I used to live in northern Virginia and our block looked like a carnival. Thank God we have smarter rules here in The Villages.

[Posh 08]

I used to live in northern Virginia and our block looked like a carnival. Thank God we have smarter rules here in The Villages.

I can't wait to get there (I think, will know more about that after our soon to be visit) and enjoy some of those rules.

[MelZ]

I just read that campaign signs are not allowed....Isn't this still America? You have to be kidding me !

Yes this is America and we don't need the signs littering our community for the next year.

People might feel different is the signs disappeared after the election but NOOO they just stay and stay and stay:doh::doh:

[Jim Straz]

I just read that campaign signs are not allowed....Isn't this still America? You have to be kidding me !
The sad part is you thinking your sign might get somebody to vote for that person because it's in your yard. I Pray for people like you every morning!

[graciegirl]

I think Specteron was just being a mite surprised.

This place has rules pretty much like the place we lived in before. It really is VERY nice once you acclimate to the change.

You can put signs on your cart bumper if you like. Just keep in mind that about 75% are Republican here and.... well you know...... Sometimes the Obama stickers...well seemed to disappear.

You can't put for sale signs in your yard here either...but you can in SOME areas, not all, North of 466. Dalmations next to fire hydrants, ditto.

The rules changed it appears as the Morse family went along and absorbed information. The Villages is built Northeast to South. You can see the changes as you drive through. There isn't a bad area because I think all of this place is just beautiful. And you can choose to live in an area that allow for sale signs in your yard. Not sure about campaign signs.

I read all of Specterons posts and she is a nice person.

[Posh 08]

I think Specteron was just being might surprised.

This place has rules pretty much like the place we lived in before. It really is pretty nice once you acclimate to the change.

You can put signs on your cart bumper if you like. Just keep in mind that about 75% are Republican here and.... well you know. Sometimes the Obama stickers...well seemed to disappear.

You can't put for sale signs in your yard here either...but you can in SOME areas, not all, North of 466. Dalmations next to fire hydrants, ditto.

The rules changed it appears as the Morse family went along and absorbed information. The Villages is built Northeast to South. You can see the changes as you drive through. NOT bad changes because I think all of this place is just beautiful.

I read all of Specterons post and she is a nice person.

Good Morning Gracie! Have a great day. :)

[nitehawk]

There is a Home Owners Association here. They won't even let me keep my car on concrete blocks in the front yard so I can work on it once I get the time.

Put it in your garage and work on it when you get the time

[Challenger]

I just read that campaign signs are not allowed....Isn't this still America? You have to be kidding me !

One of the important reasons that we bought in TV was that there were restrictions on what residents could do on their property. The beauty and greatness of America is that laws and contracts are honored and enforced. When we bought here we contracted with the community to follow the rules and restrictions. If we hadn't agreed, we were free to buy in another community with different requirements.

[BobKat1]

Regarding the thread title: Thank goodness!!

They're not allowed outside where we live, but you can place them on the inside of a window.

[duffysmom]

There is a Home Owners Association here. They won't even let me keep my car on concrete blocks in the front yard so I can work on it once I get the time.
:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[momesu]

I find it very refreshing to think that I am move somewhere that will not be littered with signs. I find them very annoying and not just campaign signs; all signs. They always seem to get put up but never taken down around here and after a rain storm or two and some wind they are just plain nasty!

Suzanne

[Bogie Shooter]

There is a Home Owners Association here. They won't even let me keep my car on concrete blocks in the front yard so I can work on it once I get the time.

There is not a home owners association in TV, that sets the rules. There are deed restrictions that define the do's and don'ts.

[BigLew]

The sad part is you thinking your sign might get somebody to vote for that person because it's in your yard. I Pray for people like you every morning!

if a sign in a yard will change someone's mind about which candidate they vote for, there wasn't much to change in the first place :0000000000luvmyhors

[Pturner]

Oh, this thread reminded me of another thing I love about TV. No yard signs! They are such an eyesore in otherwise nice neighborhoods.

[golf2140]

One of the important reasons that we bought in TV was that there were restrictions on what residents could do on their property. The beauty and greatness of America is that laws and contracts are honored and enforced. When we bought here we contracted with the community to follow the rules and restrictions. If we hadn't agreed, we were free to buy in another community with different requirements.

:bigbow:

[ilovetv]

Campaign signs not allowed in yards in T.V. = Reason #1,037 why T.V. is a great place to live.

[villagegolfer]

Campaign signs not allowed in yards in T.V. = Reason #1,037 why T.V. is a great place to live.
Hallelujah

[tpop1]

Campaign signs not allowed in yards in T.V. = Reason #1,037 why T.V. is a great place to live.
:agree:
Maybe reason # 1038........

Not many people here in T.V. think it appropriate to try and change my mind on politics, religion, and life choices, etc. and it turn,

I don't try and change their minds!

Too much important stuff here to keep me occupied....Pickleball, Golf, Cards, Pools, TOTV, etc.

The Villages motto, implicitly, is "Live and let live...life is short!"

[angiefox10]

:agree:
Maybe reason # 1038........

Not many people here in T.V. think it appropriate to try and change my mind on politics, religion, and life choices, etc. and it turn,

I don't try and change their minds!

Too much important stuff here to keep me occupied....Pickleball, Golf, Cards, Pools, TOTV, etc.

The Villages motto, implicitly, is "Live and let live...life is short!"

:agree:

[Posh 08]

:agree:
Maybe reason # 1038........

Not many people here in T.V. think it appropriate to try and change my mind on politics, religion, and life choices, etc. and it turn,

I don't try and change their minds!

Too much important stuff here to keep me occupied....Pickleball, Golf, Cards, Pools, TOTV, etc.

The Villages motto, implicitly, is "Live and let live...life is short!"

:coolsmiley:

[golf2140]

:agree:
Maybe reason # 1038........

Not many people here in T.V. think it appropriate to try and change my mind on politics, religion, and life choices, etc. and it turn,

I don't try and change their minds!

Too much important stuff here to keep me occupied....Pickleball, Golf, Cards, Pools, TOTV, etc.

The Villages motto, implicitly, is "Live and let live...life is short!"

:bigbow:

[Halle]

:BigApplause::agree:
Maybe reason # 1038........

Not many people here in T.V. think it appropriate to try and change my mind on politics, religion, and life choices, etc. and it turn,

I don't try and change their minds!

Too much important stuff here to keep me occupied....Pickleball, Golf, Cards, Pools, TOTV, etc.

The Villages motto, implicitly, is "Live and let live...life is short!"

:bigbow:

[Tom Hannon]

They won't even let me keep my car on concrete blocks in the front yard so I can work on it once I get the time.

My neighbor in NY put his car on blocks so he could work on it when he had the time. That was three years ago. No cars on blocks. No pink flamingo's and no political signs. Another reason why the Villages is the place to be.

[mulligan]

now if we could only keep the politicians off tv until the last week before election.........

[ilovetv]

now if we could only keep the politicians off tv until the last week before election.........

Right.....but at least with a television you can change the channel or turn it off.

What if a person is selling their house, and on all sides the neighbors have put bunches of Obama signs that have then been countered by three times as many Perry, Romney, Bachmann or Palin signs??

It would make me leery of buying in a neighborhood seemingly content with being at war like that.

[Posh 08]

Right.....but at least with a television you can change the channel or turn it off.

What if a person is selling their house, and on all sides the neighbors have put bunches of Obama signs that have then been countered by three times as many Perry, Romney, Bachmann or Palin signs??

It would make me leery of buying in a neighborhood seemingly content with being at war like that.

hmmmm, that is an interesting point. I'll have to be more observant.

[villagegolfer]

Right.....but at least with a television you can change the channel or turn it off.

What if a person is selling their house, and on all sides the neighbors have put bunches of Obama signs that have then been countered by three times as many Perry, Romney, Bachmann or Palin signs??

It would make me leery of buying in a neighborhood seemingly content with being at war like that.

Exactly, I really do not want to know my neighbor's political affiliations. There is no need for potential friction before you even get a chance to meet.

[Posh 08]

Exactly, I really do not want to know my neighbor's political affiliations. There is no need for potential friction before you even get a chance to meet.

Indeed!

[BobKat1]

There is a Home Owners Association here. They won't even let me keep my car on concrete blocks in the front yard so I can work on it once I get the time.

I thought this would be OK as long as one picks up the empty beer cans now and then.:)

[ilovetv]

Exactly, I really do not want to know my neighbor's political affiliations. There is no need for potential friction before you even get a chance to meet.

That's what I was thinking, too.

[Posh 08]

I thought this would be OK as long as one picks up the empty beer cans now and then.:)

My question is this. How can you do that car work without a proper shade tree? :icon_wink:

[angiefox10]

My question is this. How can you do that car work without a proper shade tree? :icon_wink:


:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[The Great Fumar]

I'm not sure how accurate this is, I've had a Herbert Hoover sign in my yard for two years and nobody has said a word.........Ok course , no one talks to me so that could have some bearing on it........

Happy day are here again fumar..........:spoken:..:agree:

[Trish Crocker]

My question is this. How can you do that car work without a proper shade tree? :icon_wink:

That's easy...get the little woman to hold an umbrella (and the beer can):rolleyes:

[Posh 08]

That's easy...get the little woman to hold an umbrella (and the beer can):rolleyes:

:bigbow:

[Talk Host]

Courts all across the land are ruling that local ordinances or prohibitions against political campaign signs or campaigning in general are unconstitutional. They've ruled that the American political process is the purest form of freedom of speech. The principal is that office seekers have a limited window in which to tell voters what they stand for and that local restrictions have a chilling effect on our representative form of government.

Think about it, no yard signs, no billboards, no television ads, no radio ads. How will we know who the good guys are and who the bad guys are? The voter cop-out is "they're all bad guys." We know that's not true. No door to door, no contact with the office seeker, how will we know who to vote for? How will we know who represents our own personal philosophies and morals and who doesn't?

In countries where there is no political process, there are dictators and ayatollahs running things.

Be careful about revelling too much in the fact that The Villages doesn't allow office seekers to contact the voters. Which do you want to do away with first, yard signs? Television commercials? Radio ads? Billboards? Bumper Stickers? Newspaper Ads? When was the last time you went to a town meeting to hear the candidates speak?

I've noticed that the developer has no problem bringing candidates inside the Villages boundries. You try it and see what happens.

Outlaw too many of our freedoms and we may end up with something that we didn't bargain for. I personally can put up with it for 90 days every two or four years. I feel it's my investment in our country.

[army one]

In this case I must disagree with you TH. The rules were in place when people purchased here. If you can't abide by the rules that were in place when you purchased then you should move. Reminds me of a housing development being built in a farming community then the new development residents complaining about the smells and dust etc. associated with farming. Rules are in place for a reason and because of these rules and others like it is the major reason I purchased here. Sorry I can't agree with you on this one but to change this rule to appease the few is not what the majority wants or paid for.

[red tail]

Courts all across the land are ruling that local ordinances or prohibitions against political campaign signs or campaigning in general are unconstitutional. They've ruled that the American political process is the purest form of freedom of speech. The principal is that office seekers have a limited window in which to tell voters what they stand for and that local restrictions have a chilling effect on our representative form of government.

Think about it, no yard signs, no billboards, no television ads, no radio ads. How will we know who the good guys are and who the bad guys are? The voter cop-out is "they're all bad guys." We know that's not true. No door to door, no contact with the office seeker, how will we know who to vote for? How will we know who represents our own personal philosophies and morals and who doesn't?

In countries where there is no political process, there are dictators and ayatollahs running things.

Be careful about revelling too much in the fact that The Villages doesn't allow office seekers to contact the voters. Which do you want to do away with first, yard signs? Television commercials? Radio ads? Billboards? Bumper Stickers? Newspaper Ads? When was the last time you went to a town meeting to hear the candidates speak?

I've noticed that the developer has no problem bringing candidates inside the Villages boundries. You try it and see what happens.

Outlaw too many of our freedoms and we may end up with something that we didn't bargain for. I personally can put up with it for 90 days every two or four years. I feel it's my investment in our country.

if inane ads and signs are important to you and you feel important then make sure you live where they are allowed. im here because i dont want them !

[Posh 08]

Courts all across the land are ruling that local ordinances or prohibitions against political campaign signs or campaigning in general are unconstitutional. They've ruled that the American political process is the purest form of freedom of speech. The principal is that office seekers have a limited window in which to tell voters what they stand for and that local restrictions have a chilling effect on our representative form of government.

Think about it, no yard signs, no billboards, no television ads, no radio ads. How will we know who the good guys are and who the bad guys are? The voter cop-out is "they're all bad guys." We know that's not true. No door to door, no contact with the office seeker, how will we know who to vote for? How will we know who represents our own personal philosophies and morals and who doesn't?

In countries where there is no political process, there are dictators and ayatollahs running things.

Be careful about revelling too much in the fact that The Villages doesn't allow office seekers to contact the voters. Which do you want to do away with first, yard signs? Television commercials? Radio ads? Billboards? Bumper Stickers? Newspaper Ads? When was the last time you went to a town meeting to hear the candidates speak?

I've noticed that the developer has no problem bringing candidates inside the Villages boundries. You try it and see what happens.

Outlaw too many of our freedoms and we may end up with something that we didn't bargain for. I personally can put up with it for 90 days every two or four years. I feel it's my investment in our country.

I don't think it is political but just a restriction like cars in the yard.

[Talk Host]

if inane ads and signs are important to you and you feel important then make sure you live where they are allowed. im here because i dont want them !

What's more important to me than your distain for our political process is that our men and women are fighting, being wounded and are dying, not only to protect our political process but also to allow other countries the opportunity to have this precious freedom.

If they are so objectionable to you, I suggest that it should be you who moves to a country where they are not allowed. I see that you don't even like my right to post my opinion because it differs from yours. Do you see a pattern developing here?

[CaliforniaGirl]

Think about it, no yard signs, no billboards, no television ads, no radio ads. How will we know who the good guys are and who the bad guys are?

Unfortunately, we don't know who the good guys and the bad guys are based on advertising. We just know who has the most money to spend on advertising. And, generally speaking, the more money to spend, the more "favors" they are going to owe if elected. Which is why we get "bridges to nowhere", and why Medicare will approve $70,000/yr nursing home care for someone who doesn't need full-time care but will not approve $8,000/yr for a part-time home health care worker. Until lobbyists are outlawed and we have serious campaign contribution reform, when election time comes we get to choose between the very corrupt and the not-quite-so corrupt. Unfortunately, the not-yet-corrupt generally doesn't have the funds to make it past the primaries.

[angiefox10]

I was thinking that when I feel the need to see campaign signs... I can go to Ocala! :1rotfl::1rotfl:

[red tail]

What's more important to me than your distain for our political process is that our men and women are fighting, being wounded and are dying, not only to protect our political process but also to allow other countries the opportunity to have this precious freedom.

If they are so objectionable to you, I suggest that it should be you who moves to a country where they are not allowed. I see that you don't even like my right to post my opinion because it differs from yours. Do you see a pattern developing here?

just because i dont agree with you i should move???? i never did like your opinions.!

[Uptown Girl]

[QUOTE=CaliforniaGirl;393615]Unfortunately, we don't know who the good guys and the bad guys are based on advertising. We just know who has the most money to spend on advertising.

My sentiments exactly.

[Talk Host]

just because i dont agree with you i should move???? i never did like your opinions.!

I see now. You are not only annoyed by the American political system, you are also annoyed by those who defend it. Hmmmmmm!

[villagegolfer]

I see now. You are not only annoyed by the American political system, you are also annoyed by those who defend it. Hmmmmmm!
What do our brave soldiers have to do with restrictions that are in place before you buy your house?
AS a veteran I do not like someone using them as some pawn for your argument. . You can do it because of our free country.

[Bogie Shooter]

The tone of this thread is beginning to sound like the political forum. No?

[villagegolfer]

The tone of this thread is beginning to sound like the political forum. No?

Yes it is and I am sorry that I took Talk Host's bait.

[villagegolfer]

What's more important to me than your distain for our political process is that our men and women are fighting, being wounded and are dying, not only to protect our political process but also to allow other countries the opportunity to have this precious freedom.

If they are so objectionable to you, I suggest that it should be you who moves to a country where they are not allowed. I see that you don't even like my right to post my opinion because it differs from yours. Do you see a pattern developing here?

Political process, huh?

[Posh 08]

It's about trashin up the place, take your politics to the ballot box or send in your letter to the editor. IMHO sign restriction is not violating peoples rights. :spoken:

[BobKat1]

The phrase, Tempest In A Teapot, comes to mind.

How big of an issue/concern is this? If it were a big deal to a sizeable number of residents and perspective residents wouldn't we have heard about it before now and wouldn't there be all sorts of outcry etc.?

Interesting to note that the OP hasn't weighed in since posting his/her concern.

[ilovetv]

"Homeowner, condo associations: different situation

Although cities and other government entities are constrained by the First Amendment in regulating political yard signs, there is no similar restraint imposed on private homeowner and condominium associations.

Cities are considered state actors subject to the provisions of the U.S. Constitution. Homeowner associations are private parties that do not qualify as state actors. The First Amendment generally protects people only from government interference with speech.

For example, a Pennsylvania state court ruled in Midlake on Big Boulder Lake, Condominium Association v. Cappuccio (1996) that a condominium association did not violate the First Amendment by removing political yard signs in accordance with a section of the association�s declaration of rules prohibiting the posting of signs at individual units. The court reasoned that there was no state action, because the association was a private party...."

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.com/speech/personal/topic.aspx?topic=yard_signs

[Chi-Town]

What's more important to me than your distain for our political process is that our men and women are fighting, being wounded and are dying, not only to protect our political process but also to allow other countries the opportunity to have this precious freedom.

If they are so objectionable to you, I suggest that it should be you who moves to a country where they are not allowed. I see that you don't even like my right to post my opinion because it differs from yours. Do you see a pattern developing here?
Wow,I remember this line of reasoning back in the Viet Nam war era. Here's the flashback... 'America, love it or leave it'.

[nitehawk]

just wondering if the talk host (founder) has left the villages - i thought i read this in a prior post - maybe - too much noise -
'the villages', love it or leave it'.

[tainsley]

Unfortunately, we don't know who the good guys and the bad guys are based on advertising. We just know who has the most money to spend on advertising. And, generally speaking, the more money to spend, the more "favors" they are going to owe if elected. Which is why we get "bridges to nowhere", and why Medicare will approve $70,000/yr nursing home care for someone who doesn't need full-time care but will not approve $8,000/yr for a part-time home health care worker. Until lobbyists are outlawed and we have serious campaign contribution reform, when election time comes we get to choose between the very corrupt and the not-quite-so corrupt. Unfortunately, the not-yet-corrupt generally doesn't have the funds to make it past the primaries.

:agree: Well said...get rid of the lobbyists. Our so called representatives are supposed to represent we the people! I never pay attention to political ads, signs, buttons, etc. they don't sway me but I really don't like to see them littering neighborhoods, streets, etc. (I have beautiful yard art that I will have to keep in my backyard...but that is ok with me!) I chose to move to TV because I love the lifestyle, the beauty of it, and the wonderful, happy people I have met both here on TOTV and while I was visiting! If there are rules to follow so be it. :)

[LivingLarge]

I personally can put up with it for 90 days every two or four years. I feel it's my investment in our country.

When is it ever 90 days? More like 8-10 months in a prez year.

[tpop1]

I would venture a bet that every rule here in The Villages upsets someone at sometime.

Reading this web site one can find many rule that they wish were not in effect�.Golf Cart Speed limits, dog issues, etc.

One of the things a democracy is supposed to insure is �All for the common good!�

Here in T.V I have not been surprised by any restrictions; not surprised because I would never buy a home without thoroughly reviewing and understanding the restrictions and feeling that I could live with them.

By the tone of the majority of the replies, and isn�t �majority � the hallmark of democracy, it�s clear that political signs are not desirous here.

Someone mentioned �freedom of speech� �. last I heard there are some restrictions in a democracy on �freedom of speech� ; restrictions which are in place �for the common good.�

[2BNTV]

I think Specteron was just being a mite surprised.

This place has rules pretty much like the place we lived in before. It really is VERY nice once you acclimate to the change.

I read all of Specterons posts and she is a nice person.

Gracie:

Very perceptive and to the heart of the matter. Always the "sage". :)

[GeorgeT]

What's more important to me than your distain for our political process is that our men and women are fighting, being wounded and are dying, not only to protect our political process but also to allow other countries the opportunity to have this precious freedom.

If they are so objectionable to you, I suggest that it should be you who moves to a country where they are not allowed. I see that you don't even like my right to post my opinion because it differs from yours. Do you see a pattern developing here?

No one said to move to another country just to a place where trash on the lawn is acceptable. I don't need a sign to make a decision.

And I think that is is in very, very poor taste that you dragged our military into this discussion. What are you trying to prove?

[BigLew]

What's more important to me than your distain for our political process is that our men and women are fighting, being wounded and are dying, not only to protect our political process but also to allow other countries the opportunity to have this precious freedom.

If they are so objectionable to you, I suggest that it should be you who moves to a country where they are not allowed. I see that you don't even like my right to post my opinion because it differs from yours. Do you see a pattern developing here?

these statements are politically absurd. no DISDAIN was shown for our political process, lawn signs are not part of our political process. Lawn signs are just a point of contention in every neighborhood in which they appear. You agreed to the restrictions of your own FREE WILL, live with it. Oh and the 'if you don't like it move business' , really? is that how the 'process' works? it seems to me that your own statements are very unamerican. Enough said.

[hedoman]

Great! I don't need anymore political infighting in the neighborhood over who's who. Nobody drives past my house anyway.....

[tainsley]

Ha...I will do a drive by just as soon as I get back!:)

[graciegirl]

Ha...I will do a drive by just as soon as I get back!:)

Tainsley. Your are funny and sweet.

I cannot wait to meet you.

[tainsley]

Tainsley. Your are funny and sweet.

I cannot wait to meet you.

Good morning! I am looking forward to meeting you too! We will be down the end of October for a visit (if my home sells here, for good!). Have a fabulous day!:)