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Guest
09-15-2011, 02:34 PM
About a week ago President Obama made a speech on TV about the condition of this country,whether we agree with him or or not is not my complaint,my problem is this,The following day The Daily Sun had some nonsense story on the front page,and not a word about the speech on the front page(all the other newspapers across the country made it a front page item)The daily sun had a small article about the 3rd or 4th page,yet Cheney comes to TV to sell a book and the item takes up front page and 3 more half pages inside.(discusting)
Not looking for a comment just airing my gripe.
Guest
09-15-2011, 02:37 PM
About a week ago President Obama made a speech on TV about the condition of this country,whether we agree with him or or not is not my complaint,my problem is this,The following day The Daily Sun had some nonsense story on the front page,and not a word about the speech on the front page(all the other newspapers across the country made it a front page item)The daily sun had a small article about the 3rd or 4th page,yet Cheney comes to TV to sell a book and the item takes up front page and 3 more half pages inside.(discusting)
Not looking for a comment just airing my gripe.
Welcome to republicanland....
Guest
09-15-2011, 02:40 PM
That is a result of a company-owned (republican) newspaper. Notice the anti Obama editorials every day with cartoons to go with them.
That is the price we pay for living in paradise.
Guest
09-15-2011, 02:46 PM
That is a result of a company-owned (republican) newspaper. Notice the anti Obama editorials every day with cartoons to go with them.
That is the price we pay for living in paradise.
True; the irony is the repubs gripe about the "liberal media" and don't seem to notice that this paper is far worse. A little bit of equality would be nice...but don't think it will happen.
Guest
09-15-2011, 02:46 PM
It is a serious consideration that all of us propective residents need to think about. I look forward to having a more balanced resident population, if not Village owner's philosophy, by the time I start to rent. And if, while renting, I can see that the imbalance takes away from my quality of life, I will know that well before I have made any permanent commitment.
Guest
09-15-2011, 02:50 PM
It is a serious consideration that all of us propective residents need to think about. I look forward to having a more balanced resident population, if not Village owner's philosophy, by the time I start to rent. And if, while renting, I can see that the imbalance takes away from my quality of life, I will know that well before I have made any permanent commitment.
People gripe and moan and groan about politics on the board, but I have yet to hear ANY of my neighbors discuss anything political..thank goodness.
Guest
09-15-2011, 02:54 PM
Really, that's the second topic of conversation in myneighborhood, right after their aches and pains.
Guest
09-15-2011, 02:58 PM
Not looking for a comment just airing my gripe.Yea right... good luck! Because of the replies so far, this thread belongs in political along with a number of other threads turned political!
Guest
09-15-2011, 03:12 PM
Really, that's the second topic of conversation in myneighborhood, right after their aches and pains.
You mean the talk of aches and pains actually ends?:laugh:
Guest
09-15-2011, 03:30 PM
We moved here knowing that TV was pretty conservative. We decided not to get into political discussions for a variety of reasons. It finally became difficult for us to keep our views to ourselves. When we let the Obama bashers know we did not agree, one would have thought we had sprouted an extra head and horns. We are still friends with our anti-liberal friends and can even joke a bit about it. We also have found out that there are many "of us" in TV so it isn't completely lopsided.
We often role our eyes at the "news" in The Daily Fun," and we subscribe to USA Today to find out what is really happening outside of our bubble.
I hope if you move here, you will be able to enjoy the many good things and not let politics ruin it for you.
Guest
09-15-2011, 03:35 PM
It's going to very difficult to keep this thread from being moved to the political forum.
As a reminder, the original topic dealt with how the Daily Sun covered national and local events.
Guest
09-15-2011, 03:37 PM
Well coming from Maryland, it will be a refreshing change over the far left views here. I don't imagine that politics will be on my mind as much in TV. Too much else to do.
Guest
09-15-2011, 03:43 PM
In addition to USA Today, you can get home delivery of the Orlando Sentinel...to get a bigger view of things.
Guest
09-15-2011, 04:13 PM
There is no problem here. If you are a liberal do not read the paper. If you want to read the paper and not get upset, then just read the sports and lifestyle pages. A big todo about nothing. IMHO
Guest
09-15-2011, 04:16 PM
All newspapers/periodicals I've ever seen lean toward one direction or another on MANY topics and that is often influenced by the owner of the paper. As an owner, I imagine it would take tremendous diligence to deliberately monitor your belief system to keep any 'signature' from developing in what you choose to print.
We can't ever be certain that we get the 100% or a 'balanced' reporting about anything we read anywhere, be it current events or a history book.
Even pictures don't always give you the full picture.
Read what peaks your curiosity, investigate further if you desire, discern what rings true to you and let the rest go.
Guest
09-15-2011, 04:19 PM
It's going to very difficult to keep this thread from being moved to the political forum.
As a reminder, the original topic dealt with how the Daily Sun covered national and local events.I agree with you, but I still say it belongs in political now just as much as it would if someone posted a message about how Krugman was shamelessly bashing several Republican figures and criticzing the NY Times for it.
Guest
09-15-2011, 04:19 PM
In this age of electronic media one can find whatever balance or imbalance that one wants. You are no longer a captive of what the local paper decides to print. I don't view the Sun as anything more than a "what's going on around town" funpaper. However, do note that the writer for the national news coverage is the AP and hence not much different that what you would find in any newspaper - just that you may find it on page 2 rather than page 1.
If we chose where we lived based on the political orientation of the newspaper we would truly become more polarized as a country. Our neighborhood has its share of Obama bashers but the Bush bashers still chime in even though he's been out of office for almost 3 years. In the end the topic quickly turns to golf, vacations, grandkids and all the other non-controversial stuff and everyone gets along. If you need to be surrounded by people whose focus is politics and whose views are sympathetic with your own, there may be better places to choose to live.
Guest
09-15-2011, 04:32 PM
We moved here knowing that TV was pretty conservative. We decided not to get into political discussions for a variety of reasons. It finally became difficult for us to keep our views to ourselves. When we let the Obama bashers know we did not agree, one would have thought we had sprouted an extra head and horns. We are still friends with our anti-liberal friends and can even joke a bit about it. We also have found out that there are many "of us" in TV so it isn't completely lopsided.
We often role our eyes at the "news" in The Daily Fun," and we subscribe to USA Today to find out what is really happening outside of our bubble.
I hope if you move here, you will be able to enjoy the many good things and not let politics ruin it for you.
Ditto!
Guest
09-15-2011, 04:33 PM
All newspapers/periodicals I've ever seen lean toward one direction or another on MANY topics and that is often influenced by the owner of the paper. As an owner, I imagine it would take tremendous diligence to deliberately monitor your belief system to keep any 'signature' from developing in what you choose to print.
We can't ever be certain that we get the 100% or a 'balanced' reporting about anything we read anywhere, be it current events or a history book.
Even pictures don't always give you the full picture.
Read what peaks your curiosity, investigate further if you desire, discern what rings true to you and let the rest go.Good post Uptown Girl. I'll add to what you said that anyone can write a letter to the editor if they have an issue with what the paper publishes! Their political opinions of a newspaper are not my opinions, and I chose not to hear theirs on TOTV when I did not sign up for the political forum. The exact same goes the other way too when it comes to my political opinions. However, I do defend the right of people, even when I disagree, to express their opinions, but only where and when it's appropriate... not anywhere when they feel like it!
Guest
09-15-2011, 05:14 PM
Good post Uptown Girl. I'll add to what you said that anyone can write a letter to the editor if they have an issue with what the paper publishes! Their political opinions of a newspaper are not my opinions, and I chose not to hear theirs on TOTV when I did not sign up for the political forum. The exact same goes the other way too when it comes to my political opinions. However, I do defend the right of people, even when I disagree, to express their opinions, but only where and when it's appropriate... not anywhere when they feel like it!
I hear what you are saying skyguy, but therein lies the dilemma.... you are thinking in terms of having to tolerate (or not!) and still getting your gut in a twist.
Think about how that affects you.... because, in reality, no matter how you try to enlighten others, you are really pushing AGAINST what you don't want.
I know that well, I did it for years. Doesn't work.
Instead, ALLOW them to be, do and say what they want and don't become entangled. Sing a tune in your head, plug your ears and chant, "La La La", imagine them with pie on their face..... whatever it takes to change the channel in your head.
And when you leave their company, (whenever you feel so inspired) DON'T regurgitate the unpleasantness over and over again in your mind, or retell the tale to another. You'll just twist your gut again, and that harms you more than you know.
Let that crud go and put your focus on things that please you and feel good to focus upon.
"They" can dance somewhere else. And so can you.
Takes a little practice to pull off.... but becomes easier each time.
One of the best things I ever learned!
Guest
09-15-2011, 05:31 PM
I would't consider it a newspaper whatsoever. It should be delivered free on that basis. However, the lifestyle aspects can be fun to read...like a great
neighborhood newsletter, but with photo's. I consider real news critical, and
I look to quality newspapers to provide varying opinions for the readers.
The word NEWS comes from North, East, West, South and provides a slice
or more of real information for thinkers from all directions all over the world.
I guess you pay your money and you take your choice. I buy it sometimes for under the kitty litter box. My dream in moving here was to find a newspaper using the skills and talents of multiple journalists who live here, balanced political reporting, and facts for my interpretation and understanding. That kind of newspapaer in The Villages would be an
outstanding feat, and a welcome daily read. All I have to do is walk outside
to get my fuzzies, why pay for it in the driveway if you know what I mean?
And yes, it is Republican biased, heavily. Also not for me as another
'closet liberal'.
Guest
09-15-2011, 05:38 PM
This is not intended to be political. This is intended to present a fact about what the Daily Sun will and will not publish.
The Daily Sun would not publish any information about Debbie Wasserman Schultz, head of the Democratic National Committee, coming to The Villages and talking to over 300 people at La Hacienda a couple of weeks ago. The Leesburg Daily Commercial was happy to oblige but not The Sun. Here's the Daily Commercial link (Yes, she was heckled here in The Villages which isn't a surprise.).
http://www.dailycommercial.com/searchresults/?operator=search&keyword=debbie+wasserman+schultz
Guest
09-15-2011, 05:41 PM
There's no better way to keep up with what's happening in The Villages than it's own daily newspaper, but no one is obligated to read it, let alone purchase it.
I'd say the paper reflects the populace pretty well. There's so much else to read either by subscription or free every day on the internet, which is where I get my outside of the Villages news.
But where else are you going to find those restaurant coupons and specials, and info on who's entertaining where?
Guest
09-15-2011, 05:46 PM
I would't consider it a newspaper whatsoever. It should be delivered free on that basis. However, the lifestyle aspects can be fun to read...like a great
neighborhood newsletter, but with photo's. I consider real news critical, and
I look to quality newspapers to provide varying opinions for the readers.
The word NEWS comes from North, East, West, South and provides a slice
or more of real information for thinkers from all directions all over the world.
I guess you pay your money and you take your choice. I buy it sometimes for under the kitty litter box. My dream in moving here was to find a newspaper using the skills and talents of multiple journalists who live here, balanced political reporting, and facts for my interpretation and understanding. That kind of newspapaer in The Villages would be an
outstanding feat, and a welcome daily read. All I have to do is walk outside
to get my fuzzies, why pay for it in the driveway if you know what I mean?
And yes, it is Republican biased, heavily. Also not for me as another
'closet liberal'.
My, my. I think it is a great newspaper and it is delivered right to my door. I personally use the New York Times for my fish wrapping.;)
Guest
09-15-2011, 06:03 PM
I hear what you are saying skyguy, but therein lies the dilemma.... you are thinking in terms of having to tolerate (or not!) and still getting your gut in a twist.
Think about how that affects you.... because, in reality, no matter how you try to enlighten others, you are really pushing AGAINST what you don't want.
I know that well, I did it for years. Doesn't work.
Instead, ALLOW them to be, do and say what they want and don't become entangled. Sing a tune in your head, plug your ears and chant, "La La La", imagine them with pie on their face..... whatever it takes to change the channel in your head.
And when you leave their company, (whenever you feel so inspired) DON'T regurgitate the unpleasantness over and over again in your mind, or retell the tale to another. You'll just twist your gut again, and that harms you more than you know.
Let that crud go and put your focus on things that please you and feel good to focus upon.
"They" can dance somewhere else. And so can you.
Takes a little practice to pull off.... but becomes easier each time.
One of the best things I ever learned!
Nicely said! I use the "La La La" when I want to tune someone out! At this point in my life I try not to dwell on anything negative. (I won't even discuss religion or politics with anyone.) Life is just too short to stress yourself out! :)
Guest
09-15-2011, 06:05 PM
Really, that's the second topic of conversation in myneighborhood, right after their aches and pains.
I sure hope it is not in my soon to be new neighborhood. Moving to TV from metro Washington DC I've had politics up to my eyeballs and want to get away from them.
Suzanne
Guest
09-15-2011, 06:08 PM
There is no problem here. If you are a liberal do not read the paper. If you want to read the paper and not get upset, then just read the sports and lifestyle pages. A big todo about nothing. IMHO
This is what I plan to do..........well maybe not sports. :icon_wink:
Suzanne
Guest
09-15-2011, 06:14 PM
In this age of electronic media one can find whatever balance or imbalance that one wants. You are no longer a captive of what the local paper decides to print. I don't view the Sun as anything more than a "what's going on around town" funpaper. However, do note that the writer for the national news coverage is the AP and hence not much different that what you would find in any newspaper - just that you may find it on page 2 rather than page 1.
If we chose where we lived based on the political orientation of the newspaper we would truly become more polarized as a country. Our neighborhood has its share of Obama bashers but the Bush bashers still chime in even though he's been out of office for almost 3 years. In the end the topic quickly turns to golf, vacations, grandkids and all the other non-controversial stuff and everyone gets along. If you need to be surrounded by people whose focus is politics and whose views are sympathetic with your own, there may be better places to choose to live.
Hmmm...I don't really care what your politics are but I did notice in your signature lines that at one time you lived in Ann Arbor.....for that you have my extreme sympathy.....ah yes my blood runs green and white.....go Sparty!
Suzanne
Guest
09-15-2011, 06:21 PM
I'm sure if the President visits the Villages, the Daily Sun would give him a lot of space in the paper.
Guest
09-15-2011, 06:34 PM
I read these posts with great interest. My wife and I are currently getting our act together to make the move (hopefully by Spring of 2012) to TV. We area little concerned about the Republican leaning thought in TV. Believe me everyone has the right to have their own opinions political and otherwise. We are planning to just keep our opinions to ourselves and to enjoy the wonderful lifestyle TV has to offer.
Guest
09-15-2011, 06:36 PM
Well coming from Maryland, it will be a refreshing change over the far left views here. I don't imagine that politics will be on my mind as much in TV. Too much else to do.
Yep! :a040:
Guest
09-15-2011, 06:56 PM
I read these posts with great interest. My wife and I are currently getting our act together to make the move (hopefully by Spring of 2012) to TV. We area little concerned about the Republican leaning thought in TV. Believe me everyone has the right to have their own opinions political and otherwise. We are planning to just keep our opinions to ourselves and to enjoy the wonderful lifestyle TV has to offer.
Don't let people fool you. Nobody goes around talking politics. This is a happy place and I don't mind sharing it with lefties. Mostly, nobody knows who is what because nobody goes around and asks.
Guest
09-15-2011, 07:07 PM
I hear what you are saying skyguy, but therein lies the dilemma.... you are thinking in terms of having to tolerate (or not!) and still getting your gut in a twist.
Think about how that affects you.... because, in reality, no matter how you try to enlighten others, you are really pushing AGAINST what you don't want.
I know that well, I did it for years. Doesn't work.
Instead, ALLOW them to be, do and say what they want and don't become entangled. Sing a tune in your head, plug your ears and chant, "La La La", imagine them with pie on their face..... whatever it takes to change the channel in your head.
And when you leave their company, (whenever you feel so inspired) DON'T regurgitate the unpleasantness over and over again in your mind, or retell the tale to another. You'll just twist your gut again, and that harms you more than you know.
Let that crud go and put your focus on things that please you and feel good to focus upon.
"They" can dance somewhere else. And so can you.
Takes a little practice to pull off.... but becomes easier each time.
One of the best things I ever learned!What you say does make a lot of sense, however it is difficult to try and do what you've suggested. I've been regurgitating unpleasantness ever since the right made issues over Clinton's use of cigars, then the left started their campaign of what IMHO was more revenge than substance following the 2000 election results. And now it's because of the demonizing of people over their views about America's direction or misdirection. With about 25 years of it, it does add up.
I'll try, however to take your advise, but know that my latest horoscope (not that I really believe in them) actually said that I'm outspoken! That's the bad news, but the good news though, is that I've never-ever had a horoscope that said that I was... on second thought I better not say! :1rotfl:
Guest
09-15-2011, 07:10 PM
I haven't heard Obama say anything yet worth writing about. When (if) he says something important, I'm sure they'll report it.
Guest
09-15-2011, 07:16 PM
I haven't heard Obama say anything yet worth writing about. When (if) he says something important, I'm sure they'll report it.
See it's comments like that that make me question my moving to TV. It is just mean spirited and I believe uncalled for. Whether you like it or not he was fairly elected by the people of this great country and there are still well over 40% of the country that agrees with him according to latest polls. OK I am going back into my a-political hole now. I really can't stand politics....they have become way to mean spirited and closed minded of late.
Suzanne
Guest
09-15-2011, 07:19 PM
Don't let people fool you. Nobody goes around talking politics. This is a happy place and I don't mind sharing it with lefties. Mostly, nobody knows who is what because nobody goes around and asks.I agree with you. I've only met two people in TV in person during my short stay where I know where they stand politically. One is liberal and the other I believe leans slightly to the right of center. In both cases I feel that they're both wonderful people who don't engage in biased activities.
Guest
09-15-2011, 07:20 PM
I wanted the guy to succeed. If he does well so does the country. But, what's he done? Spend our money. For what?
Guest
09-15-2011, 07:22 PM
I read these posts with great interest. My wife and I are currently getting our act together to make the move (hopefully by Spring of 2012) to TV. We area little concerned about the Republican leaning thought in TV. Believe me everyone has the right to have their own opinions political and otherwise. We are planning to just keep our opinions to ourselves and to enjoy the wonderful lifestyle TV has to offer.
Hi ghenley,
Welcome. No need to be concerned. We have many wonderful friends and neighbors in TV and don't know or care their political leanings. As others have said, there are plenty of online news sources. I doubt that many people read The Daily Fun as their primary source of news, as it's main focus is... oh I bet you can guess.
You guessed right! (That is assuming that you guessed that it's main focus is the lifestyle.) :)
Guest
09-15-2011, 07:38 PM
"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference."
The Daily Sun is what it is. Nobody, IMHO, is forced to read any of the paper. It's like changing the channel on a TV. Turn the page. Read only what interests you. Skip the editorial page. See how easy it is?
And I have never considered the slant of the local rag in choosing a place to live. Never enters into it. But it's a good thing political signs and posters are not permitted in TV.
Guest
09-15-2011, 07:44 PM
I was concerned about the conservative bias of the owner, his newspaper, his radio station, and his political donations. But I can tell you, the people here are 99 and 44/100ths pure nice. There are political discussions but I have never heard any hostility once I am willing to let others know my opinions. It seems that silence betokens consent and if the "wing nut" is not aware that he speaks to a moderate he feels no need to be moderate and thoughtful. We even have a large club that is devoted to Civil Discourse!
Guest
09-15-2011, 07:50 PM
I read these posts with great interest. My wife and I are currently getting our act together to make the move (hopefully by Spring of 2012) to TV. We area little concerned about the Republican leaning thought in TV. Believe me everyone has the right to have their own opinions political and otherwise. We are planning to just keep our opinions to ourselves and to enjoy the wonderful lifestyle TV has to offer.I totally agree with what PTurner stated. As an non-activist uninvolved Republican, I have never discussed politics with anyone in TV that didn't first let me know of their leaning. Each time it was friendly and nothing to be concerned about. I can also say the same in reverse!
If you're concerns are based on the remarks against the Sun you're reading on this thread, I encourage you (or anybody else) to go to the following link and read one of those articles that the Sun is being criticized for and judge for yourself if there is anything in the article that would justify such criticism against the publication or if it's much adieu about nothing! Enjoy TV and don't let the perceptions of others deter you from doing so! It's a fantastic place!
http://www.thevillagesdailysun.com/news/villages/article_c6115ce8-df53-11e0-8893-001cc4c002e0.html
Guest
09-15-2011, 08:32 PM
This thread is being moved to the political forum unless or until the Admin deems it belongs elsewhere. The tone and content of posts have veered off course from any non partisan discussion of the Daily Sun's publishing policies.
Guest
09-16-2011, 09:01 AM
I have lived here 7 years and I can tell you that politics does not come up as a matter of course here in TV.
Most people make absolutely no use of their political bent in the normal day to day living whether here or anywhere else. I believe categorizing TV as conservative or liberal or white or black or what ever is a distorted statement.
When is the last time you had to determine what the political affiliation was of anybody before you:
moved out?
Moved in?
Went there on vacation?
went on a cruise?
went to a particular restaurant?
joined a particular club (unless it was a political club)?
Wouldn't it be a shame if you had to consider which church based on political slant?
It just does not happen in day to day living.
Recognize the Daily Sun for what it is....the developer's promotional organ...
So those of you who are considering moving here or anywhere else, don't let the perceptions of the minority sway you.
btk
Guest
09-16-2011, 09:52 AM
I have found that the folks here that are politically active do it within a venue condusive to that end...there are several clubs here that match pretty much each person's political agenda...Most folks just keep their thoughts to themselves unless it comes up in conversation and if it becomes disagreeable in any way it just simply ends...that is my personal experience and I'm currently dating a member of the Women's republican federation and yes she knows I'm a democrat..We rarely talk politics...I do believe the conservative agenda is alive and well here as that is the leaning by the developer,and this place does play host to just about every republican candidate you can imagine...the governor is here frequently and there have been several nationl level republiccans here in the past,Including George Bush,though I'm sure he had help finding the place (LOL)..c'mon Ritchie,that was a joke...
Guest
09-16-2011, 04:27 PM
See it's comments like that that make me question my moving to TV. It is just mean spirited and I believe uncalled for. Whether you like it or not he was fairly elected by the people of this great country and there are still well over 40% of the country that agrees with him according to latest polls. OK I am going back into my a-political hole now. I really can't stand politics....they have become way to mean spirited and closed mine
Hopefully it bothered you as much when liberals denigrated Bush and members of his Admin istration?
As one poster mentioned news comes to us from so many sources. I subscribe to the Wall Street Journal, Orlando Sentinel, Daily Sun and numerous magazines along with e-news letters
I have learned to ignore politics when around the health center and on the golf courses. I go light on them when out to dinner.
Even in this forum I make a good attempt at addressing politics and avoiding personalities
Guest
09-16-2011, 04:53 PM
Hopefully it bothered you as much when liberals denigrated Bush and members of his Admin istration?
As one poster mentioned news comes to us from so many sources. I subscribe to the Wall Street Journal, Orlando Sentinel, Daily Sun and numerous magazines along with e-news letters
I have learned to ignore politics when around the health center and on the golf courses. I go light on them when out to dinner.
Even in this forum I make a good attempt at addressing politics and avoiding personalities
Very good. I also made myself a promise, as many already know. I promised to give this President the same amount of respect that the Democrats accorded former President George W. Bush. I believe I've held true to my promise and I'm proud of it.
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