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09-21-2011, 09:35 AM
A new McClatchy-Marist poll finds that Obama is looking very beatable in next year's election, with a majority of voters believing he'll lose to any Republican. a solid majority saying they'll definitely vote against him. The poll also shows that most potential Republican challengers are gaining on him.

The largest gain in the poll came from Gov. Sarah Palin who was 20 pts. behind all year, but has now pulled within 5 pts. in the poll. The reason being she's is leading now with a sharp turnaround by independent voters.

By 52% to 38%, voters think he'll lose to the Republican nominee, whoever that is. Even among Democrats, 31% think the Republican nominee will win.


While most of the Republicans have gained on Obama, he still leads all of the announced candidates.

"His saving grace right now has to do with the fact that the GOP field has not yet demonstrated the appeal to capitalize on his weaknesses," said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion, which conducted the national survey.

The Republicans still need to get their act together and get behind a candidate that will draw and keep the independent vote. With Romney and Palin pulling that vote according to this survey, it remains a question of who that person will be.

Tomorrow's debate will be a bit interesting, I believe.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/20/v-fullstory/2417008/poll-finds-obama-losing-ground.html

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09-21-2011, 09:38 AM
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/steve-forbes-rick-perry-win-white-house-185808605.html

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09-21-2011, 10:02 AM
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/steve-forbes-rick-perry-win-white-house-185808605.html

I agree with Forbes, but if I mentioned Perry all the libs would have gotten distracted from the issue. I've been behind Perry well before he announced his nomination and was itching for him to enter the race. None of the candidates have his charisma and ability to "speak to the people" as one of them.

There, now I've done it, so we'll see if this goes off into a tangent or if people want to talk about what Obama must do to reverse the trends.

Guest
09-21-2011, 11:32 AM
It is clearly evident that B. Hussein Obama has not a clue. He apparently assumes that all he must do is read his speechwriter's words from his telepromptor and the problems will magically go away. After all, that's how he got elected. Empty words from an empty suit.

It is time for a real change and vote this bum out so we can save what's left of our country's dignity. We need to get the message out that Obama does not have our country in his best interests. Shallow words to shower out like Santa Clause throwing candy in a parade. And like decaying teeth, Obama will lead this country to ruin.

VOTE NOBAMA 2012

Guest
09-21-2011, 12:11 PM
I agree with Forbes, but if I mentioned Perry all the libs would have gotten distracted from the issue. I've been behind Perry well before he announced his nomination and was itching for him to enter the race. None of the candidates have his charisma and ability to "speak to the people" as one of them.

There, now I've done it, so we'll see if this goes off into a tangent or if people want to talk about what Obama must do to reverse the trends.

Well, since YOU brought up Perry....last time I heard him speak I could not tell if he was a presidential candidate or an evangelical preacher..... Since a president is supposed to represent everyone, not just christians, I don't find that a good thing. Someone's faith should be personal and private. The White House is not a pulpit.

Guest
09-21-2011, 12:15 PM
Well, since YOU brought up Perry....last time I heard him speak I could not tell if he was a presidential candidate or an evangelical preacher..... Since a president is supposed to represent everyone, not just christians, I don't find that a good thing. Someone's faith should be personal and private. The White House is not a pulpit.

There are several reasons I think he is a strange duck. I will vote for Obama if Perry wins the primary. There are several better qualified for the job ahead of Perry. It just seems the tea ******* and Republicans are hell bent on putting an extremist weirdo up for election. I won't be the only conservative to change parties if Perry is the one chosen.

Guest
09-21-2011, 12:22 PM
There are several reasons I think he is a strange duck. I will vote for Obama if Perry wins the primary. There are several better qualified for the job ahead of Perry. It just seems the tea ******* and Republicans are hell bent on putting an extremist weirdo up for election. I won't be the only conservative to change parties if Perry is the one chosen.

Why do people continue to call the Tea Party "**********"? You people are quick on the finger to call someone a racist, yet you people continue to call people homosexuals. Not that there is anything wrong with that but I wonder how the homosexuals in the democratic party like hearing their own party call other people that name. It must make the homosexuals cringe when you leftists say that word. You lefties should be ashamed of yourself. Party of tolerance? I think not.

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09-21-2011, 12:52 PM
Why do people continue to call the Tea Party "**********"? You people are quick on the finger to call someone a racist, yet you people continue to call people homosexuals. Not that there is anything wrong with that but I wonder how the homosexuals in the democratic party like hearing their own party call other people that name. It must make the homosexuals cringe when you leftists say that word. You lefties should be ashamed of yourself. Party of tolerance? I think not.

Well, apparently you know a lot more about the homosexual community and its residents than I do, so I will refrain from using that term as not to offend you homosexuals. But Perry is still an idiot and would be very bad for this country.

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09-21-2011, 01:16 PM
Well, apparently you know a lot more about the homosexual community and its residents than I do, so I will refrain from using that term as not to offend you homosexuals. But Perry is still an idiot and would be very bad for this country.

So, now you are calling me a homosexual. You will not sink too low, huh? I am not a homo. But if I were you I would be very careful about calling people that name. Not that there is anything wrong with that, understand, it is just some people get offended.

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09-21-2011, 01:20 PM
So, now you are calling me a homosexual. You will not sink too low, huh? I am not a homo. But if I were you I would be very careful about calling people that name. Not that there is anything wrong with that, understand, it is just some people get offended.

Then this time I misunderstood. I thought you said you were a homosexual. I never called you a homo as that is derogatory. When you use the term homo, it makes you sound like a bigot against homosexuals. Just tying to help. I apologize for mistaking you for a homosexual.

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09-21-2011, 01:23 PM
Then this time I misunderstood. I thought you said you were a homosexual. I never called you a homo as that is derogatory. When you use the term homo, it makes you sound like a bigot against homosexuals. Just tying to help. I apologize for mistaking you for a homosexual.

Apology accepted. I only shortened the word because I'm getting lazy and I have to be somewhere in a very short time. By the way in a form of shothand, I also use the word hetro.

CHEERS

Guest
09-21-2011, 01:58 PM
It is the TEA PARTY. Got that. Use that term, I am tired of the constant bickering and use of the other word. TEA PARTY, enough said of that subject.

Now, Perry, an Open Borders, let anyone who is here stay. We don't need him. He is a CAREER, CORPORATION POLITICAN. Don't need that, we haved had several years and several Presidents and congresses that where all those things. None of the current crop of criminals would make a good pimple on a good Americans butt. Where is someone who will step up and do what is right for the American People, you know, you and me and the rest of the working class.

Guest
09-21-2011, 02:01 PM
Villagegolfer, it's President Obama. Not B. Hussen Obama. President Obama. Like or dislike the man, your use of that phase is tiresome and worn out. Get over it, grow up and respect the office. I don't care how you feel about the man, respect the office and grow up.

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09-21-2011, 02:22 PM
Villagegolfer, it's President Obama. Not B. Hussen Obama. President Obama. Like or dislike the man, your use of that phase is tiresome and worn out. Get over it, grow up and respect the office. I don't care how you feel about the man, respect the office and grow up.

Who the heck do you think you are talking to? I tried doing that for 8 years and it did me no good. I told the Bush haters that the next time a democrats gets in office I will use the same standards they used. I am only trying to hold up my end of the bargain. Capice?

Guest
09-21-2011, 02:28 PM
A childish little person.

So you are being a stupid as they are.

Guest
09-21-2011, 02:30 PM
Who the heck do you think you are talking to? I tried doing that for 8 years and it did me no good. I told the Bush haters that the next time a democrats gets in office I will use the same standards they used. I am only trying to hold up my end of the bargain. Capice?

Figmo is right. You can only increase the flames of hate using all three names. What is the point. More flies with honey remember. I know it is fun and easy to strike out, but it only does harm and even to yourself. OOOHHHMMM OOOOHHHHHMMMMM

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09-21-2011, 02:37 PM
A childish little person.

So you are being a stupid as they are.

There you go again with the personal stuff. I am just holding up my end of the bargain. That is the man's name, isn't it? Nobody on the left ever called Bush "President Bush" Don't get me wrong, I only voted for him because of the incompetents running against him, but every time I asked the people on whichever board I was on(I was on a few and still am) I was flamed and made fun of. After awhile I gave up. Sometimes it takes a thick skin to get into politics, just ask President Bush. He never whined.

Guest
09-21-2011, 03:08 PM
Villagegolfer, nothing personal, but if you don't act grown up then, well I think you get the message. You are doing it to yourself. We have to be bigger than the others, IE., the left, if we want to get anything done. Name calling only shows a lack of respect for the office and even if that is his name, he is currently The President and will be until lawfully removed from office.

My skin is thicker than anyones on this board. Name calling does not matter to me. After twenty years in the military, several combat tours, your little games are really boring. So stop with the games and get into the substance of the problem, that is, ways to fix this country before it to late. If you are not part of the soluation to a problem you are the problem.

Guest
09-21-2011, 03:24 PM
Villagegolfer, nothing personal, but if you don't act grown up then, well I think you get the message. You are doing it to yourself. We have to be bigger than the others, IE., the left, if we want to get anything done. Name calling only shows a lack of respect for the office and even if that is his name, he is currently The President and will be until lawfully removed from office.

My skin is thicker than anyones on this board. Name calling does not matter to me. After twenty years in the military, several combat tours, your little games are really boring. So stop with the games and get into the substance of the problem, that is, ways to fix this country before it to late. If you are not part of the soluation to a problem you are the problem.

What in the world does that mean? I have seen more life and death in one day then....you get my point. I will agree that there are games played here, but I do not resort to personal stuff like you and your cronies do here every day. Please stay on a topic and not get personal. Politicians and policies are what we are supposed to be discussing everytime you guys start picking fights and addressing each other , it is time that is wasted. . Thank-you for reading this post.

Guest
09-21-2011, 04:29 PM
A childish little person.

So you are being a stupid as they are.

Sorry you feel that way, as I also keep my promises, as does VG. I promised that I would give this President the same respect as the liberals gave the last President, and I do at every opportunity.

I don't have the higher calling as you obviously do and I'm not ashamed of it. The liberals still have zero respect for any they oppose as evidenced by their obscene use of the word "*********", which they then coyly say "Oh dear me, I had no idea that term was a vile and disgusting insult". BULL DINGIES!!
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Now, back to this thread. I am gladded that our resident liberals still think the question is what the Republicans will do, when the question for them should be what will Obama do. Obama is going down a losing road and laboring under a losing agenda. As long as he continues to do this, you will be seeing more of these polls showing him failing.

Guest
09-21-2011, 04:36 PM
Now the ganging up begins. Im going to have some beer and call it a day.

Guest
09-21-2011, 04:39 PM
Not a 6 PAC !?! :oops:

Guest
09-21-2011, 04:41 PM
Now the ganging up begins. Im going to have some beer and call it a day.

I know; using vile derivatives, as your did, sometime can lose you friends. It's probably a good idea to take a time out.

Guest
09-21-2011, 05:31 PM
I love ya Richie, but you are the Biggest Jerk on this site. See ya tomorrow and have a great evening harrassing the weak.

I only pointed to the fact of you using the obscene descriptions to demean the Tea Party members, and you decided to retaliate by calling me a "jerk". You just can't stop it. You definitely need a time out.

It would be nice to try to keep the conversation on a higher level, if you can manage it.

Guest
09-21-2011, 05:39 PM
I only pointed to the fact of you using the obscene descriptions to demean the Tea Party members, and you decided to retaliate by calling me a "jerk". You just can't stop it. You definitely need a time out.

It would be nice to try to keep the conversation on a higher level, if you can manage it.

Don't underestimate Obama. He is only beaten when he loses the 2012 election. I made a huge mistake believing no one would take this guy seriously. When he beat the Clinton machine I about choked. It was clear Obama had not one presidential bone in his body then and now yet he wowed enough people to win ??????

I guess Team Obama was able to pollute our water supply with Portion Number 9 :1rotfl:

Guest
09-21-2011, 08:48 PM
vg2,wow I will say this...when the bully they try very hard to do a thorough job...I'm gonna be their thorn in the side..I'm very good at it too cause I don't buy their google garbage..The truth is out there and we see it.....Along with the vast majority of Americana..They will go the way of the dinosauer..Bye bye little ritchie..and the rest of your tea party cronies....

Guest
09-21-2011, 09:15 PM
vg2,wow I will say this...when the bully they try very hard to do a thorough job...I'm gonna be their thorn in the side..I'm very good at it too cause I don't buy their google garbage..The truth is out there and we see it.....Along with the vast majority of Americana..They will go the way of the dinosauer..Bye bye little ritchie..and the rest of your tea party cronies....

Seriously, there is help for people with your sickness. There is no shame in getting the help you need and to regain your sense of mental balance and health.

There are lots of professional counselors for you to speak to, who will guide you back to being able to function again in society.

Guest
09-21-2011, 09:36 PM
I love ya Richie, but you are the Biggest Jerk on this site. See ya tomorrow and have a great evening harrassing the weak.

Wow, what a hippocrite. You come on this sight and preach morality and then say this to Ritchie. You lost what little respect I had for you. You need help.

Guest
09-21-2011, 09:39 PM
vg2,wow I will say this...when the bully they try very hard to do a thorough job...I'm gonna be their thorn in the side..I'm very good at it too cause I don't buy their google garbage..The truth is out there and we see it.....Along with the vast majority of Americana..They will go the way of the dinosauer..Bye bye little ritchie..and the rest of your tea party cronies....

Do you ever read your diatribe? Do you know what you sound like. I suggest you seek help immediately. I am really concerned about you. Get a good nites sleep and tell us if you feel better in the morning.

Guest
09-22-2011, 08:20 AM
Wow, I said less and it got deleted. This place gets less and less appealing every day.:ohdear:

This is being addressed. It is addressed on my time table. See admin comments on deleted post.

Guest
09-22-2011, 08:54 AM
Wow, I said less and it got deleted. This place gets less and less appealing every day.:ohdear:

We can only hope. :cus:

Guest
09-22-2011, 10:36 AM
Seriously, there is help for people with your sickness. There is no shame in getting the help you need and to regain your sense of mental balance and health.

There are lots of professional counselors for you to speak to, who will guide you back to being able to function again in society.

Diagnosing without a license there? Someone having a different opinion does not constitute a mental disorder....

Guest
09-22-2011, 02:33 PM
Diagnosing without a license there? Someone having a different opinion does not constitute a mental disorder....

Some people can disagree with me, and even get my humor, and give it right back to me without malice. You are a great example, and there are a few more here, as well.

With this poster it's the pathological need to try to bully me while all the while calling me a bully. I do not know this person and the first time he addressed me on this forum he attacked me. He continues to do so. The problem isn't mine.

It's not the first time someone hasn't been able to communicate with me with any semblance of normal civility and intelligence and it probably won't be the last.

I mostly just ignore the rambling barely comprehensible pointless postings but sometimes I just have to say WTF!!.