Goodbye GOP Hello DEM

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I have had a good nights sleep and have made a major (for me) political decision. Coming from a farming childhood and speeding 22 years in the military, I have always been and voted Republican. This site has changed my way of thinking. When I voice my opinion on the debt and other GOP positions, no one on here ever becomes insulting to me. When I mention any agreement with a liberal issue, the 6 PAC jump on me like a pack of wild dogs. So, if I can be accepted as a Conservative Democrat, I would welcome a chance to join the cause.
Since it is obvious to me that being a Republican or tea member requires such a narrow minded, slander anyone with a different point of view approach, I am no longer able to support the GOP. I have tried for months to take a lets talk approach to issues only to be slammed by the 6 PAC who seem to believe its my way or go to h***. Thats not the American way. To make my point, I will predict here and now, that my message will bring on hate from the right. They will say negative things that will support my decision to change parties. Their hate filled rhetoric is so deeply embedded, they will not be able to stop themselves from spewing insults. Watch.

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I have had a good nights sleep and have made a major (for me) political decision. Coming from a farming childhood and speeding 22 years in the military, I have always been and voted Republican. This site has changed my way of thinking. When I voice my opinion on the debt and other GOP positions, no one on here ever becomes insulting to me. When I mention any agreement with a liberal issue, the 6 PAC jump on me like a pack of wild dogs. So, if I can be accepted as a Conservative Democrat, I would welcome a chance to join the cause.
Since it is obvious to me that being a Republican or tea member requires such a narrow minded, slander anyone with a different point of view approach, I am no longer able to support the GOP. I have tried for months to take a lets talk approach to issues only to be slammed by the 6 PAC who seem to believe its my way or go to h***. Thats not the American way. To make my point, I will predict here and now, that my message will bring on hate from the right. They will say negative things that will support my decision to change
parties. Their hate filled rhetoric is so deeply embedded, they will not be able to stop themselves from spewing insults. Watch.

Just a thought ..... And I think I'm unbiased since I don't even know who you refer to as the 6 PAC. In my humble opinion, your post seems designed to bait others into making negative comments. :ohdear:

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Just a thought ..... And I think I'm unbiased since I don't even know who you refer to as the 6 PAC. In my humble opinion, your post seems designed to bait others into making negative comments. :oh dear:

Morning, You can't get more negative than the 6 PAC and no, they only have one woman and it is not you. They sit at home in front of their computers and pray for anything liberal to attack. I am simply tired of trying to make peace with my own party so bad that I have decided to leave. I do not want to be identified with the Tea Party nor even my own Republican party on this board anymore. They are hateful, and their only defense is that liberals start it. That is such a childish mentality it is sad. So, I will stay conservative, but will forever represent myself as a conservative Democrat. You mark my words, when my drinking friend wakes up he will be on me like stink on a monkey. And when his side kick wakes up, he also will be back to negative posting. They will do this because I am not 100 % extremist Right Wing. Jesus Christ was a liberal as verified by his sermon on the mount, so I feel confident that I am on the right side. If being kind and giving is a sin, then I have sinned. I challenge Mr negative and his body guard to simply say goodbye to me without their negativity and I will apologize to them both for being wrong, but even saying that, they are such obsessive compulsive haters, that they will not be able to control themselves.

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:bigbow: You have just described the dilemma this country faces today. I am an Independent a/k/a moderate conservative and find the level of contempt for opposing opinions expressed on this site is nothing short of repulsive.

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:bigbow: You have just described the dilemma this country faces today. I am an Independent a/k/a moderate conservative and find the level of contempt for opposing opinions expressed on this site is nothing short of repulsive.

Thank you. I need to surround myself with that attitude and understanding. I am embarrassed to admit that I voted for Bush and McCain because of who else support them. If leaving my party is what I must do to be around people who respect people for what they are and believe in, then leave I will. I am appalled at just how good the 6 PAC are at being hateful and negative. Without them, this site could truly be a place to work toward bipartisanship solutions, but as they are here, only arguments and sarcasm. I kept getting drawn into it myself, so I know how additive it can be. Again, thanks for letting me know that there are other conservative thinking independents out there.

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I simply like to use an interesting measuring stick. I voted for Reagan as many times as I was legally allowed. Yet today's GOP hardliner would look at a nameless candidate with Reagan's record as if the former president was a socialist and (here's the rub) all the while practically praising Reagan's name like a saint.

Reagan was the very model of compromise and dealmaking. Something today's GOP, especially the Tea Party Caucus, doesn't practice at all.

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I simply like to use an interesting measuring stick. I voted for Reagan as many times as I was legally allowed. Yet today's GOP hardliner would look at a nameless candidate with Reagan's record as if the former president was a socialist and (here's the rub) all the while practically praising Reagan's name like a saint.

Reagan was the very model of compromise and dealmaking. Something today's GOP, especially the Tea Party Caucus, doesn't practice at all.

I would like to follow you around for a day to get some of your mojo. I have watched you post for several years and to this day, I can not define you as a DEM or REP or even anything in between. My first instinct is to say WHATS UP WITH THAT?, but realize, If we all could get on your wave length, we would have most of the problems of the world solved or at the very least a lot closer than we are today. My main weakness is that I can not for the life of me understand why anyone would choose to be Hard Right or Hard Left; therefore, I find myself acting out in a childish manner right along side of the 6 PAC by trying to defend the underdog. I do understand that I need to stop responding to any extremest as it is not productive and leads to childishness and I hope I am better than than that. I know, I have not been up till now. Guilty.

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As I said, I am not a DEM but Independent. However, I have attended Democratic Club meetings here in TV (yes they exists) and find they do have a fairly high sense of courtesy and respect for most all points of view. You certainly should go take a look, they won't bite.

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As I said, I am not a DEM but Independent. However, I have attended Democratic Club meetings here in TV (yes they exists) and find they do have a fairly high sense of courtesy and respect for most all points of view. You certainly should go take a look, they won't bite.

Thank you and I will look into that. I would like to hear their take on the budget.

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:bigbow: You have just described the dilemma this country faces today. I am an Independent a/k/a moderate conservative and find the level of contempt for opposing opinions expressed on this site is nothing short of repulsive.

This is getting truer every day. The level of snarkiness is ridiculous. I have visions of these folks salivating when there is something they can attack. Must make them feel good in some way. Fortunately, I have long ago learned that trying to get through to people with such a level of certitude is nearly impossible. PROVE ME WRONG>>SITE YOUR SOURCE>>>GIVE ME LINKS (that's what they say) SO my expectations are very very low. Don't let them get to you ( a generic you)..that is what empowers them. Your REACTION to what they say is what is making you upset..and you have the power to stop that. I have requested links a few times and never got one. Take care...

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V2....Welcome to the new future for us all...

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Villager II ~ Sorry to be off topic but I see a new Icon near your name! NICE BIKE! Are you a cyclist?

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Villager II ~ Sorry to be off topic but I see a new Icon near your name! NICE BIKE! Are you a cyclist?

Yes. Both me and my wife like to ride early in the day. We only go 10 to 15 miles for a little exercise and to stay somewhat fit.

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This is getting truer every day. The level of snarkiness is ridiculous. I have visions of these folks salivating when there is something they can attack. Must make them feel good in some way. Fortunately, I have long ago learned that trying to get through to people with such a level of certitude is nearly impossible. PROVE ME WRONG>>SITE YOUR SOURCE>>>GIVE ME LINKS (that's what they say) SO my expectations are very very low. Don't let them get to you ( a generic you)..that is what empowers them. Your REACTION to what they say is what is making you upset..and you have the power to stop that. I have requested links a few times and never got one. Take care...

Your right and thank you. When I would try to be the peacemaker, before I knew it they had me caught up in the hate, so as I have said, I am not wired to be a jerk and it causes me too much stress, so I am going to try hard to stay on track with those of a more civil attitude.

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Yes. Both me and my wife like to ride early in the day. We only go 10 to 15 miles for a little exercise and to stay somewhat fit.

The Mr and I just spent our 2 week vacation riding the "rails to trails" around Xenia, Ohio. It is awesome-over 200 miles of beautiful, rarely interrupted bike paths thru small towns in Ohio. We stopped often for ice cream or snack of some kind. Had one scoop of ice cream at Young's Dairy-it was more like a pint! We too go about 15 miles several times a week...it's like a mini-vacation after a long day at work! Thanks for answering, I always get excited to meet fellow bikers! :a040: Happy Trails!

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I personally would be so surprised if one used the input/output of this forum ONLY to determine their political direction/opinion/participation!!

I wouldn't be making such a decision based on such minority opinionated exposure that is offered here on TOTV!

This forum has deteriorated to a school yard level partisan point counter point.
I am looking forward to when an issue.....a real issue, can be surfaced...discussed...without the usual dose of partisan dumping that seems to take over EVERY SINGLE TIME.

When was the last time an issue was presented where the name calling and bashing and retrospecting measuring of the past to validate the present did NOT overwhelm the intent of the thread?

btk

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If you want to know what liberals are doing, all you have to do is see what they are accusing others of.

The new derision from the liberal wing of this forum is to try to belittle conservative posters by lumping them into a fanciful cabal and call them the "6PAC". There really is more than 6 posters of a politically conservative bent, but that's not really important. I find the description humorous and juvenile and thus more illustrative of the posters than their "targets" and so it's fine with me.

I understand that there are those on this forum more enamored of the current President than I. But if I post comments uncomplimentary of this President and/or his policies, it does not warrant a personal attack on me. You can dispute my findings and my view, but you don't need to "call me out", or any of the other posters of a conservative ideology.

It's hard not to respond when the attacks become personal in nature. I've tried to ignore most, especially from a new malignant poster, but it's human nature to defend yourself.

The Admin wants us to let him to do this and just report the offense. That's also difficult to do, but I understand the reason.

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I do agree with Richie's post in regards to name-calling by anyone or any group. I have not read far enough in to see the term "6-PAC". It does have a ring to it but I would not reserve it for any party but rather as a general term for discussing politics around the corner table at the local watering hole.

As for "calling anyone out" - DEFINITELY WRONG. I enjoy having a few brews with guys of both political persuasions at a local watering hole. No need for anyone to say they would find it distasteful to have drink with liberals (or conservatives) based on personal beliefs. This political forum is not meant to be so serious as to jeopardize personal relationships with anyone. It has created a couple of friendships for me - from the opposite side, too.

It is hard not to respond in kind. I have reported a couple of posts to ADMIN and will certainly try not to respond in kind to personal derogatory remarks.

Let's keep this interesting but remain civil and remember we are Villagers and doggone happy to be here in this slice of Heaven.

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I have had a good nights sleep and have made a major (for me) political decision. Coming from a farming childhood and speeding 22 years in the military, I have always been and voted Republican. This site has changed my way of thinking. When I voice my opinion on the debt and other GOP positions, no one on here ever becomes insulting to me. When I mention any agreement with a liberal issue, the 6 PAC jump on me like a pack of wild dogs. So, if I can be accepted as a Conservative Democrat, I would welcome a chance to join the cause.
Since it is obvious to me that being a Republican or tea member requires such a narrow minded, slander anyone with a different point of view approach, I am no longer able to support the GOP. I have tried for months to take a lets talk approach to issues only to be slammed by the 6 PAC who seem to believe its my way or go to h***. Thats not the American way. To make my point, I will predict here and now, that my message will bring on hate from the right. They will say negative things that will support my decision to change parties. Their hate filled rhetoric is so deeply embedded, they will not be able to stop themselves from spewing insults. Watch.

Good luck with that Conservative Democrat plan.

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I would like to follow you around for a day to get some of your mojo. I have watched you post for several years and to this day, I can not define you as a DEM or REP or even anything in between. My first instinct is to say WHATS UP WITH THAT?, but realize, If we all could get on your wave length, we would have most of the problems of the world solved or at the very least a lot closer than we are today. My main weakness is that I can not for the life of me understand why anyone would choose to be Hard Right or Hard Left; therefore, I find myself acting out in a childish manner right along side of the 6 PAC by trying to defend the underdog. I do understand that I need to stop responding to any extremest as it is not productive and leads to childishness and I hope I am better than than that. I know, I have not been up till now. Guilty.

Thanks for the kind words.

I'm not a Republican (though I used to be) and I'm not a Democrat (though I've occasionally cast a handful of votes that way - literally - less than 5).

I strongly believe that each issue stands on it's own. Certainly some are related but it's impossible to think that the country's problems can be solved by EITHER "Plan R" OR "Plan D" where each plank of the respective plans is the diametric opposite of the other's.

I believe in the death penalty, gun rights, immigration reform (not total amnesty), some lower taxes, some higher taxes, gay marriage, religious rights, law and order, the Constitution, some public services, private ideas and government paving the way in certain areas until the private sector can take over - AND SOMETIMES THE REVERSE if the private sector can't do it.

Take taxes for instance. One side says we're at historic low levels of taxation (as a percentage of GDP) and they're right. The other side highlights half the citizenry paying no federal taxes (ignoring some of the other taxes) and a disproportionate percentage coming from wealthier citizens. And THEY are right as well. But they're BOTH looking at the issue through a narrow lens. They both miss the big picture.

The same holds true for transportation in transit vs. roads arguments.

I won't call Tea Partiers "**********". I find it preferable to 'attack' on substance rather than jingoistic name-calling. I *will* use the term "legislooters" from time to time. I will afford the respect that is deserving of the offices of both the President AND the Speaker of the House. I won't try to highlight only the parts of the President's name that sound more foreign or call Rep. Boehner names for his occasional emotional displays. It does NOTHING to contribute to any progress towards solving the problems we face.

For what it's worth, I wish Ron Paul were more polished. Of all the GOP candidates, he seems to be the one most backed up by facts as opposed to ideology bordering on theology. I still disagree with him on many points, but he makes many more points of substance than the other candidates.

So there's some of my 'mojo' for today...

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Thanks for the kind words.

I'm not a Republican (though I used to be) and I'm not a Democrat (though I've occasionally cast a handful of votes that way - literally - less than 5).

I strongly believe that each issue stands on it's own. Certainly some are related but it's impossible to think that the country's problems can be solved by EITHER "Plan R" OR "Plan D" where each plank of the respective plans is the diametric opposite of the other's.

I believe in the death penalty, gun rights, immigration reform (not total amnesty), some lower taxes, some higher taxes, gay marriage, religious rights, law and order, the Constitution, some public services, private ideas and government paving the way in certain areas until the private sector can take over - AND SOMETIMES THE REVERSE if the private sector can't do it.

Take taxes for instance. One side says we're at historic low levels of taxation (as a percentage of GDP) and they're right. The other side highlights half the citizenry paying no federal taxes (ignoring some of the other taxes) and a disproportionate percentage coming from wealthier citizens. And THEY are right as well. But they're BOTH looking at the issue through a narrow lens. They both miss the big picture.

The same holds true for transportation in transit vs. roads arguments.

I won't call Tea Partiers "**********". I find it preferable to 'attack' on substance rather than jingoistic name-calling. I *will* use the term "legislooters" from time to time. I will afford the respect that is deserving of the offices of both the President AND the Speaker of the House. I won't try to highlight only the parts of the President's name that sound more foreign or call Rep. Boehner names for his occasional emotional displays. It does NOTHING to contribute to any progress towards solving the problems we face.

For what it's worth, I wish Ron Paul were more polished. Of all the GOP candidates, he seems to be the one most backed up by facts as opposed to ideology bordering on theology. I still disagree with him on many points, but he makes many more points of substance than the other candidates.

So there's some of my 'mojo' for today...

djplong~ I have to agree with on most of this! :thumbup:

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Politicis is both personal and business. Some issues strike at the moral core of who we are and what we believe. So it is understandable that some folks take umbrage at others insensitivities but it should not deter who you are.

What I see when reading the poltical forum posts are people defining themselves as liberal moderate or conservative vis a vis democrat, independent or republican and for the most part that is their leaning.

My Dad was an good example of how one could have a heated debate and when it was finsihed bellies up to the bar, I'm buying.

Debate is good name calling is not and should simply be ignored and a demand to return to the issues.

I enjoy the TOTV and and have learned so much from some really nice people

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VillagerII--- In all honesty I never understood why you always labeled yourself as a conservative. Your posts usually seemed to lean left, in my opinion. So many times you slammed conservative ideas while claiming to be a conservative. It never rang true to me.

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VillagerII--- In all honesty I never understood why you always labeled yourself as a conservative. Your posts usually seemed to lean left, in my opinion. So many times you slammed conservative ideas while claiming to be a conservative. It never rang true to me.


:agree::agree::agree:

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Liberal or conservative. Republican or Democrat. Anybody who thinks that another four years of Barack Hussein Obama as president of the United States of America has got to be out on their mind!

If you think that four more years of Barack Obama is good for the country you are beyond hope and beyond reason.

Just my humble opinion.

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Liberal or conservative. Republican or Democrat. Anybody who thinks that another four years of Barack Hussein Obama as president of the United States of America has got to be out on their mind!

If you think that four more years of Barack Obama is good for the country you are beyond hope and beyond reason.

Just my humble opinion.

Just imagine that all that has taken place in the last three years was with a republican president. I remember in 2003 the main stream media kept beating the drums every night about the "jobless recovery"when unemployment was around 5%. Unemployment is now around 25% and the media is silent.
People, wake up. We are on the road to ruin. Please, please vote republican and restore this country to the greatness that it was.

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Just imagine that all that has taken place in the last three years was with a republican president. I remember in 2003 the main stream media kept beating the drums every night about the "jobless recovery"when unemployment was around 5%. Unemployment is now around 25% and the media is silent.
People, wake up. We are on the road to ruin. Please, please vote republican and restore this country to the greatness that it was.

I am not entirely sure of what you have said so let me ask you the obvious question.

Do you think that another four years of Barack Obama would be good for this country? Yes or no?

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Liberal or conservative. Republican or Democrat. Anybody who thinks that another four years of Barack Hussein Obama as president of the United States of America has got to be out on their mind!

If you think that four more years of Barack Obama is good for the country you are beyond hope and beyond reason.

Just my humble opinion.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste. :cus:

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I am not entirely sure of what you have said so let me ask you the obvious question.

Do you think that another four years of Barack Obama would be good for this country? Yes or no?

NO

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i am not entirely sure of what you have said so let me ask you the obvious question.

Do you think that another four years of barack obama would be good for this country? Yes or no?

yes

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Obama is by far, a better choice than what the Republicans/tea party have put up there so far...

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Obama is by far, a better choice than what the Republicans/tea party have put up there so far...

Too bad you democrats threw Hillary under the bus. Democrats have a difficult time excepting women in authoritative position.

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Actually we could do much worse than carter, ahow about Bush?...I need him desperately so I'd have my daily laugh..wait I also had tears when he invaded the wrong country...The great "decider"..lol

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Actually we could do much worse than carter, ahow about Bush?...I need him desperately so I'd have my daily laugh..wait I also had tears when he invaded the wrong country...The great "decider"..lol

Well, I would rather laugh every day then cry every time I think about how this president(Bama) is destroying my beloved country.;)

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Actually we could do much worse than carter, ahow about Bush?...I need him desperately so I'd have my daily laugh..wait I also had tears when he invaded the wrong country...The great "decider"..lol

Don't forget the "they tried to kill my Daddy" reason for the war. He said it. I heard him. ALso, just for laughs, remember the pictures of him walking holding hands with the Saudi Prince? Said it was culturally correct. I don't know, maybe it is. Point is that when Obama does the culturally correct thing, he is an embarrassment. Talk about embarrasing...Bush putting his hands on the female German chancelor. That is not correct anytime, anyhow.

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and again the thread is dragged back in time to measure against Bush.....let's see what was the subject of the thread?
Hey you retrospective measurers, how is this group compared to the like group of democrats prior to the 2008 election?
Never mind I know the answer. If one could block the faces and the year and which party it would sound no different than we have seen this far this year.

Just like the democratic puff up debates (all political debates that is) prior to the nomination of Obama....the republicans will joust and make fools of themselves as a group just like the dems did. Then one will survive the rest. And that one will have a lot of speeches and words and promises to make....then we can really compare which circus has/had the best clowns:undecided::popcorn:

btk

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Obama is by far, a better choice than what the Republicans/tea party have put up there so far...

Can you tell us 5 things that he has done that are good for America?

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Don't forget the "they tried to kill my Daddy" reason for the war. He said it. I heard him. ALso, just for laughs, remember the pictures of him walking holding hands with the Saudi Prince? Said it was culturally correct. I don't know, maybe it is. Point is that when Obama does the culturally correct thing, he is an embarrassment. Talk about embarrasing...Bush putting his hands on the female German chancelor. That is not correct anytime, anyhow.

Wow another tit for tat moment. How about the gift Obama gave to Queen Of England. a video tape of himself giving speeches. She must of been thrilled to watch that video from the President of his 57 states. What a Hallmark moment that was. And Obama sending back to England the bust of Winston Churchill. No wonder our friends in England think so lowly of the Annointed One. I could go on and on about the stupidity of this administration but why bother. He will be gone after 2012.

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Obama is by far, a better choice than what the Republicans/tea party have put up there so far...

Can you tell us 5 things that he has done that are good for America?

:popcorn: Waiting for CMann's reply.

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:popcorn: Waiting for CMann's reply.

I am, too.:popcorn: C'mon HRP.

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I am, too.:popcorn: C'mon HRP.

What do owe you a reply to?

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What do owe you a reply to?

I am waiting for HRP01 to answer your question regarding 5 things that Obama has done that are good for America.

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I am waiting for HRP01 to answer your question regarding 5 things that Obama has done that are good for America.

:popcorn: Me too.

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9 hours later and still waiting for response .:popcorn::popcorn:

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so the clowns stay awake, I'll give one a day...He ok's the killing of Osama Bin Laden....ok two....He won the election and whipped your sorry butt's candidates( read right wingnuts))....aka tea party

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so the clowns stay awake, I'll give one a day...He ok's the killing of Osama Bin Laden....ok two....He won the election and whipped your sorry butt's candidates( read right wingnuts))....aka tea party

Still with the personal attacks, huh? That is the only two things that you can list?

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9 hours later and still waiting for response .:popcorn::popcorn:

Don't hold your breath........on second thought. :cus:

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I'll give it a whirl.

1) Killed Osama bin Laden
2) Pased credit reform (not all he wanted but I know MY bills are easier to read)
3) Kept us out of a Depression with TARP (mostly inherited from Bush and poorly written to allow the banks to get away with more crap but it was better than the alternative)
4) Eliminated DATD (I know it's a matter of opinion for many, but it seems to be going over well where I work)
5) Got the Consumer Protection Bureau started (again, not as good as it should be but it's a start)
6) Produced a timetable for getting out of Iraq. (Now if we could only do the same for Afghanistan, South Korea, Germany, Italy and the other 100+ countries were in)

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ok day two....His administration is going after at&t for their ridiculous attempt to control the cell phone market...Anti-trust at work...I know that evry 4 yrs or so the justice dept takes on one of these cases just to justify their existance but this is easy..AT&T was busted years ago for the same thing in the land line industry..They had to divest themselves of the "baby bells" and western electric...Stay tuned

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so the clowns stay awake, I'll give one a day...He ok's the killing of Osama Bin Laden....ok two....He won the election and whipped your sorry butt's candidates( read right wingnuts))....aka tea party

Killing Osama Bin Laden...LOL, give us something that can be proven.

Won the election...or stole it...OK, either way he got into the Whitehouse, so I will give ya this one.

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Obama is by far, a better choice than what the Republicans/tea party have put up there so far...

Can you tell us 5 things that he has done that are good for America?

What do I owe you a reply to?

Sorry CMann, I misquoted. Ceejay and I are waiting for hrp01's reply to your question about five things Obama has done that are good for America. :popcorn::popcorn:

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Killing Osama Bin Laden...LOL, give us something that can be proven.

Won the election...or stole it...OK, either way he got into the Whitehouse, so I will give ya this one.

How did he steal it? BUSH stole it, not Obama. Obama may have stole it from Hilary, but how do you conclude he stole the election. That is insane.

As to killing osama, what kind of proof do you want. I think if he was laid out in front of you, you would say it was a hoax and someone made up to look like him. JEEZ

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I am waiting for HRP01 to answer your question regarding 5 things that Obama has done that are good for America.

Yes, I asked the question and am also waiting for HRPO to answer.

He is using yet another Alinsky tactic.

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How did he steal it? BUSH stole it, not Obama. Obama may have stole it from Hilary, but how do you conclude he stole the election. That is insane.

As to killing osama, what kind of proof do you want. I think if he was laid out in front of you, you would say it was a hoax and someone made up to look like him. JEEZ

Fact check: Bush wasn't running.

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Killing Osama Bin Laden...LOL, give us something that can be proven.

Won the election...or stole it...OK, either way he got into the Whitehouse, so I will give ya this one.

You mean our commander in thief was part of the raid with all those brave men and did not hide under the desk?
Well, if Clinton would have acted with a little fortitude and get Obama Bin Laden when he had the chance, we might not have had the 911 ambush in NewYork and the Pentagon. So the democrats are batting five hundred now?

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As to killing osama, what kind of proof do you want. I think if he was laid out in front of you, you would say it was a hoax and someone made up to look like him. JEEZ
10 years ago Osama Bin Laden was reportedly in renal failure and dependent on renal dialysis to do the job that his kidneys should have been doing...So you are asking me to believe that he survived all this time hiding in caves in the desert with medical issue this severe? Come on now, Doc!

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How did he steal it? BUSH stole it, not Obama. Obama may have stole it from Hilary, but how do you conclude he stole the election. That is insane.


Ever hear of ACORN...

http://factcheck.org/2008/10/acorn-accusations/

http://politicons.net/judge-slaps-acorn-with-maximum-fine-for-voter-fraud-during-2008-election/

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124182750646102435.html


http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/26/acorn-falls-again-the-worst-case-of-voter-registration-fraud-in-washington-state-history/

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Yes, I asked the question and am also waiting for HRPO to answer.

He is using yet another Alinsky tactic.

HRPO?; Is this the guy you're waiting to answer the question. I think he's typing away!

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/wakytimes/Harpo20Marx.png

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OMG I read the title thread "Goodbye GOP Hello Dem" and I thought that Hillary decided to run and I missed the announcement:laugh:

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This does not even come close to laughter that HRPO's pic brought about but it's all I've got! :1rotfl: !!!!!!!!!

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What has clinton to do with Obama's accomplishments ?...Nice attack again Mr google...You guys are really the intimidators...What a joke...And of course the religious zealot has to chime in as that is what her god exon told her to say...You whine about personal attacks but are consistent in giving them along with your contrived intellectual rhetoric (always from a right wing source)..Always changing the subject when faced with the truth my right wingnuts...

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What has clinton to do with Obama's accomplishments ?...Nice attack again Mr google...You guys are really the intimidators...What a joke...And of course the religious zealot has to chime in as that is what her god exon told her to say...You whine about personal attacks but are consistent in giving them along with your contrived intellectual rhetoric (always from a right wing source)..Always changing the subject when faced with the truth my right wingnuts...

:shrug::shrug::shrug::1rotfl:

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vg...How intelligent...

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vg...How intelligent...

You've ignored and as of yet refused to answer the question put to you to name 5 great things Obama has accomplished for his country as president, per your statement about his being such a great one. This should be easy for you.

How about a little evidence of some kind of knowledge about this President you so admire. Where's your intelligence?

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...you'd think he at least would have jumped on the ones I provided.

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What has clinton to do with Obama's accomplishments ?...Nice attack again Mr google...You guys are really the intimidators...What a joke...And of course the religious zealot has to chime in as that is what her god exon told her to say...You whine about personal attacks but are consistent in giving them along with your contrived intellectual rhetoric (always from a right wing source)..Always changing the subject when faced with the truth my right wingnuts...

Wow...talk about personal attacks. :undecided:

I think we are still waiting for you to answer CMANN's question. Forget about the "one-a-day" thing... I would think that you should be able to name them right off the top of your head...

I am really interested in what you can come up with on your own.:popcorn:

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There they go again....the right wingers using Stupidski's tactics. Will it never end? :cus:

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There they go again....the right wingers using Stupidski's tactics. Will it never end? :cus:

If you are referring to my post, would you please explain yours? :shrug: I have no idea what you are talking about. I am just asking a simple question.

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The enforcer and his gang of six have long since gone from disrespectful...to outright disgusting...Not worth any response at all....they are the class clowns!!!! Except they are classless

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The enforcer and his gang of six have long since gone from disrespectful...to outright disgusting...Not worth any response at all....they are the class clowns!!!! Except they are classless

Agree. :cus:

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The enforcer and his gang of six have long since gone from disrespectful...to outright disgusting...Not worth any response at all....they are the class clowns!!!! Except they are classless

Well, seems like the lefties have no more ammo. so they resort to mud. Too bad there is nothing really to debate as this administration is a dismal failure and again the republicans will have to come in and clean it up.

Help save the USA and vote all democrats out.

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10 years ago Osama Bin Laden was reportedly in renal failure and dependent on renal dialysis to do the job that his kidneys should have been doing...So you are asking me to believe that he survived all this time hiding in caves in the desert with medical issue this severe? Come on now, Doc!

UMMM....he was not hiding in caves for the last 5 years!! Did you listen to the news at all? He was living in that compound for 5 years...

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UMMM....he was not hiding in caves for the last 5 years!! Did you listen to the news at all? He was living in that compound for 5 years...


Yea and the poor guy only had a small screen television. so small that the picture taken shows he had to sit up close to it. It simply doesn't pay to join his organization:laugh:

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and the village fool comes forward once again....yea ritchie....yea yea...like a lap dog

I guess you have not learned a thing from the moderator's warning about playing nice in the sand box. Calling people fools and lap dogs is not conducive towards civil discussions.

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UMMM....he was not hiding in caves for the last 5 years!! Did you listen to the news at all? He was living in that compound for 5 years...

EVEN 2 years in a dirty environment would be difficult, if not miraculous to have survived through with renal failure and dependence on dialysis...need extremely clean and sterile surroundings.

Also, if you are asking do I listen to the news on ABC, NBC or CBS...never, and rarely FOX! I get all my news from a wide variety of internet sources. Those 3 are far to biased in my opinion. You should check out the news from other countries...currently the USA is a laughing stock in the world.:sad:

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vilage golfer...let me be perfectly clear,so ther is absolutely no misunderstanding...I may get the boot from this forum but you know what frankly I don't give a damn..You and that disgusting Ritchie,and of course your religious zealot,have managed to take over this forum for your own personal enjoyment..You have long ago stopped making any real sense and you are totally unwilling to listen to any oposing views...The sad part is you three have a habit of ganging up on people and when necessary being very personal and derogatory...Many times you and the village idiot,Ritchie have managed to voice racist, abhorent ideas that are absolutely disgusting..You have managed to run off those that are easily intimidated and the moderator has allowed it...If that is the way this operates then I'm gonna play rough till you stop...You are without substance,and are nothing more than Ritchie's (Mr Google)LAPDOG....nuff said..

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vilage golfer...let me be perfectly clear,so ther is absolutely no misunderstanding...I may get the boot from this forum but you know what frankly I don't give a damn..You and that disgusting Ritchie,and of course your religious zealot,have managed to take over this forum for your own personal enjoyment..You have long ago stopped making any real sense and you are totally unwilling to listen to any oposing views...The sad part is you three have a habit of ganging up on people and when necessary being very personal and derogatory...Many times you and the village idiot,Ritchie have managed to voice racist, abhorent ideas that are absolutely disgusting..You have managed to run off those that are easily intimidated and the moderator has allowed it...If that is the way this operates then I'm gonna play rough till you stop...You are without substance,and are nothing more than Ritchie's (Mr Google)LAPDOG....nuff said..

You obviously have an anger problem and see racism under every rock you choose to look under. You call people disgusting names and do not belong on a respectable forum. Like Richie says, you will burn out real soon.

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You obviously have an anger problem and see racism under every rock you choose to look under. You call people disgusting names and do not belong on a respectable forum. Like Richie says, you will burn out real soon.

The incoherent, slanderous and violent defamatory post you're responding to has been reported to Admin.

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I stand by what I have said...My tea party activists..

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I stand by what I have said...My tea party activists..

I do not understand why you still have posting privileges but the moderator said that people here requested more lenience. If that is the case then this will be a battleground.

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vilage golfer...let me be perfectly clear,so ther is absolutely no misunderstanding...I may get the boot from this forum but you know what frankly I don't give a damn..You and that disgusting Ritchie,and of course your religious zealot,have managed to take over this forum for your own personal enjoyment..You have long ago stopped making any real sense and you are totally unwilling to listen to any oposing views...The sad part is you three have a habit of ganging up on people and when necessary being very personal and derogatory...Many times you and the village idiot,Ritchie have managed to voice racist, abhorent ideas that are absolutely disgusting..You have managed to run off those that are easily intimidated and the moderator has allowed it...If that is the way this operates then I'm gonna play rough till you stop...You are without substance,and are nothing more than Ritchie's (Mr Google)LAPDOG....nuff said..

Just walk away. It isn't worth it.

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Just walk away. It isn't worth it.

Seems like some people like to self-destruct. We have been warned by a fair moderator. All you have to do to survive here is to try to stay on subject and not maliciously attack a fellow poster. It really is that easy.

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I would like to follow you around for a day to get some of your mojo. I have watched you post for several years and to this day, I can not define you as a DEM or REP or even anything in between. My first instinct is to say WHATS UP WITH THAT?, but realize, If we all could get on your wave length, we would have most of the problems of the world solved or at the very least a lot closer than we are today. My main weakness is that I can not for the life of me understand why anyone would choose to be Hard Right or Hard Left; therefore, I find myself acting out in a childish manner right along side of the 6 PAC by trying to defend the underdog. I do understand that I need to stop responding to any extremest as it is not productive and leads to childishness and I hope I am better than than that. I know, I have not been up till now. Guilty.

The Villager II,

Been there, done that! I wouldn't refer to the 6 PAC as strong minded at all - maybe weak minded, one trick ponies. I would wager they have driven more people away from TOTV than they have drawn to it. I'm not talking just about the Political "hid em in the backroom" Talk area, I'm talking away from TOTV entirely. I almost never visit anymore nor do I post much anymore. Can you imagine living in a place full of their kind. Luckily we don't have that problem. They are but the tiny minority that you'll find no matter where you live. You are better than that - we are better than that.

...and thanks for naming them. I love the "6 PAC" title.

How is it they never get their nasty little posts thrown out? How is it they never get expelled from the forum? Hmmm, gives one a thought to ponder doesn't it?

Xavier

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Borrowed from Cabo35 from another thread: (Hope you don't mind Cabo)


All your "opining" about things unacceptable, by your standard, seems to be exclusively reserved and directed at those expressing a conservative perspective. When have you opined about copious, conspicuously evident, unacceptable, impolite, rants, taunts and name calling that permeate this forum and are directly attributable to the left wing trolls who stalk conservatives on this board. Your "opining" seems to be selective in nature at best.

This was a response directed at the liberals who have a selective memory.

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Borrowed from Cabo35 from another thread: (Hope you don't mind Cabo)



This was a response directed at the liberals who have a selective memory.

You must have run out of your own words and had to borrow from someone else! You help me make my point. Thanks.

Xavier

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The Villager II,

Been there, done that! I wouldn't refer to the 6 PAC as strong minded at all - maybe weak minded, one trick ponies. I would wager they have driven more people away from TOTV than they have drawn to it. I'm not talking just about the Political "hid em in the backroom" Talk area, I'm talking away from TOTV entirely. I almost never visit anymore nor do I post much anymore. Can you imagine living in a place full of their kind. Luckily we don't have that problem. They are but the tiny minority that you'll find no matter where you live. You are better than that - we are better than that.

...and thanks for naming them. I love the "6 PAC" title.

How is it they never get their nasty little posts thrown out? How is it they never get expelled from the forum? Hmmm, gives one a thought to ponder doesn't it?

Xavier

Good post Xavier, I agree with you completely. One of the them could have been suspended any number of times for the posts that he made but instead Villager II and hrp01 have been suspended. Double standard????

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You must have run out of your own words and had to borrow from someone else! You help me make my point. Thanks.

Xavier
Most people here have been warned to keep the posts directed to the topic of the thread. The moderator asked us nicely to not address each other and stay on topic. Some people here continue to harass and taunt and never contribute to the conversations. Most conservatives will address the politicians and policies. Liberals get mad and then attack the conservatives instead of rebutting the point that was made.
Go back to each thread and see which person starts the personal mudslinging first.

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How is it they never get their nasty little posts thrown out? How is it they never get expelled from the forum? Hmmm, gives one a thought to ponder doesn't it?
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Not much pondering necessary. You've answered your own question. It's because the vast majority of all the personal attacks on this forum have come from posters who've run out of debate issues because of facts or personal knowledge or the ability to control their emotions.

As you know I've been posting on this forum for a long time. All controversy involving me has begun with a poster attacking me personally because they weren't capable, for whatever reason, of disputing whatever point I was making. I've never initiated an episode by directly attacking a poster. I may have bashed an idea of theirs, but not them personally. I may respond to a personal attack once it's launched, but not with gratuitous vitriol.

Why some get so personally invested in what they've posted that they cannot stomach deviation and objection to their ideas is beyond me. Then there are those who hate what someone says against a public figure that they admire so much that they cannot control their anger. The personal and often slanderous attacks then begin against the poster who said these things they didn't like.

The fact is that I have never in all the time I've posted on this forum received as much as a warning. That tells you all you need to know.

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I also agree that this name calling has gotten outrageous and has to be stopped. There is no excuse for calling someone a "village idiot" or "disgusting", "religious zealot", saying you do not give a damn, etc.

This is supposed to be a forum for exchange of opinions. I do not agree with most of the conservatives but they do not agree with me. Most are very civil. It does not matter what side of the aisle you are on; just express your ideas. Don't make it personal with name calling. I get irked with the rolf icons but that is okay. It is one person's humor vs mine.

Like the ADMIN has said, keep the posts like you were talking to someone face to face. I would not stay around a person that called me disgusting or a village idiot and that they did not give a damn about my opinion.

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Not much pondering necessary. You've answered your own question. It's because the vast majority of all the personal attacks on this forum have come from posters who've run out of debate issues because of facts or personal knowledge or the ability to control their emotions.

As you know I've been posting on this forum for a long time. All controversy involving me has begun with a poster attacking me personally because they weren't capable, for whatever reason, of disputing whatever point I was making. I've never initiated an episode by directly attacking a poster. I may have bashed an idea of theirs, but not them personally. I may respond to a personal attack once it's launched, but not with gratuitous vitriol.

Why some get so personally invested in what they've posted that they cannot stomach deviation and objection to their ideas is beyond me. Then there are those who hate what someone says against a public figure that they admire so much that they cannot control their anger. The personal and often slanderous attacks then begin against the poster who said these things they didn't like.

The fact is that I have never in all the time I've posted on this forum received as much as a warning. That tells you all you need to know.

...or it could mean that you bought TOTV, you bought the Administrator or the two of you are in bed together. See, it's not obvious! Oh, just in case, that is meant to be humorous - (sort of).

Time to leave again! Don't think it's been fun. :evil6:

Xavier

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...or it could mean that you bought TOTV, you bought the Administrator or the two of you are in bed together. See, it's not obvious! Oh, just in case, that is meant to be humorous - (sort of).

Time to leave again! Don't think it's been fun. :evil6:

Xavier

Don't let the door hit you in the *** on the way out. :boxing2: Man this place will be boring without you. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

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Don't let the door hit you in the *** on the way out. :boxing2: Man this place will be boring without you. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

:laugh:Hee, hee, hee - love that PAC6 mentality - always shines through. Hee, hee, hee. :laugh:

Xavier