NJ Gov. Chris Christie reconsidering Presidential candidacy

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It seems the governor of N.J., Governor Chris (I won't run, I'm not ready, stop asking me) Christie is reconsidering entering the Republican Primary for President, after repeated appeals from several leading Republican donors and fundraisers.

Evidently he thinking about it after meetings in the past week with several notable Republican billionaires.

According to a source of Newsmax familiar with the meeting, it was suggested that Gov. Christie seemed inclined to enter the race but that he needed more time.

Gov. Christie has promised to make a decision "within two weeks," the source said.

So, this race may get even more interesting.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Christie-president-Romney-Perry/2011/09/23/id/412133

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Would he run as a Republican or as an independent?

Seems to me he might be better off letting that gang of 11 beat themselves up with some of the goofy stuff they're saying, and just go his own way as an independent. The big question is whether he'd be able to get on the state ballots as an independent.

While he wouldn't get money from the GOP national committee, my guess is that that money would flood in. I know I'd make a contribution. Then he wouldn't be beholden to the various powerful factions in the GOP. That would be a very good thing, I think.

Then again, I'm no political consultant.

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I agree 100% with VK.

btk

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Would he run as a Republican or as an independent?

Seems to me he might be better off letting that gang of 11 beat themselves up with some of the goofy stuff they're saying, and just go his own way as an independent. The big question is whether he'd be able to get on the state ballots as an independent.

While he wouldn't get money from the GOP national committee, my guess is that that money would flood in. I know I'd make a contribution. Then he wouldn't be beholden to the various powerful factions in the GOP. That would be a very good thing, I think.

Then again, I'm no political consultant.

According to the story he's being courted by Republican donors, fundraisers and billionaires to enter the Republican primary.

Any Republican would be a fool, IMHO, to run as a third party candidate and Gov. Christie is no fool.

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He is fat.

That will eliminate him from consideration by all those "tolerant" folks that can't stand his straight talk on the effectiveness of being solvent instead of insolvent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw0aBkt8CPA

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He is fat.

That will eliminate him from consideration by all those "tolerant" folks that can't stand his straight talk on the effectiveness of being solvent instead of insolvent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw0aBkt8CPA

I don't think you're correct. The extremists will make fun of his weight, that's a given. What else are they going to say. They can't debate him on fiscal policy issues and not come out looking like ignoramuses. He has a way with words on that subject.

He's a fiscal conservative, a social moderate, coupled with a few liberal ideas besides. He can definitely grab Obama votes, and if he does wind up the Republican candidate, what else can we Republicans do but vote for him. We can worry about his "less than conservative" qualities later; maybe after he "cuts the government fat", so to speak.

I'm not endorsing, but merely speculating.

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...The extremists will make fun of his weight, that's a given. What else are they going to say. They can't debate him on fiscal policy issues and not come out looking like ignoramuses. He has a way with words on that subject....I'm not endorsing, but merely speculating.Yeah, they will. But the extremists will be historically wrong.

John Adams was no slouch as a POTUS, and he was kinda tubby, often pictured with a double chin and a protruding gut.

William Howard Taft was such a lardass that he regularly got stuck in one of the White House bathtubs and had to be helped out.

Then there was Teddy Roosevelt. Teddy was pretty fit and tough, but a lightweight he was not.

So Christie would be in good company as far as his avoirdupois is concerned.

As far as your endorsement is concerned, Richie, c'mon get on the bandwagon with me. I'll endorse Christie in a nanosecond. He's light years better and more electable than all but one of the current GOP candidates.

How long do the think it would take Christie to stick a flamethrower in an appropriate place in some of the word-parsing, negative, obstructionist, unproductive members of Congress?

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http://www.app.com/article/20110922/NJNEWS10/309220057/NJ-Gov-says-state-can-pay-5M-save-hospital?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Frontpage|s

http://www.app.com/comments/article/20110922/NJNEWS10/309220057/NJ-Gov-says-state-can-pay-5M-save-hospital

app article doesn't sound like much more than the gov being his bully self with the unions [not state unions] - but the links froom the post in the comments section off the article make me wonder why the gov is going to spend $5 - $11 million of state revenue to save a hospital that is being sold. some of the players seem a bit cozy, too.

maybe i missed something somewhere?

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He is fat.

That will eliminate him from consideration by all those "tolerant" folks that can't stand his straight talk on the effectiveness of being solvent instead of insolvent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw0aBkt8CPA

That is quite the conclusion you have jumped to. Tolerant people will eliminate him from consideration because he is fat? That is some line of reasoning there....

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If people like my sister in law voted for Obama because he "talks good" I can see people not voting for Christie because he is fat.

Heck, I can see guys voting for the thin woman and not the fat female.:laugh:

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If people like my sister in law voted for Obama because he "talks good" I can see people not voting for Christie because he is fat.

Heck, I can see guys voting for the thin woman and not the fat female.:laugh:

Sounds like you hold your sister in law in high regard. :cus:

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Sounds like you hold your sister in law in high regard. :cus:

Funny, I always thought she was a sensible conservative. Her husband could not believe that she voted for Obama. It has been awhile since I have talked to her. Do not know how she feels about her vote now. Maybe the spell is gone and she regrets voting for the worst President in history.

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Did not take long for Christie to take advantage of the perks of his job
"two trips on a State Police helicopter to get to his son's baseball games."
Good Luck - Christie - just think what you could do if you were the president
Nice try, Christie - did not think anyone was watching

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Did not take long for Christie to take advantage of the perks of his job
"two trips on a State Police helicopter to get to his son's baseball games."
Good Luck - Christie - just think what you could do if you were the president
Nice try, Christie - did not think anyone was watching

He would fit in the White House real good. Obama used the perks to spend a night in New York costing the taxpayers a fortune.;)

http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2009/05/30/obamas-date-night-on-broadway/

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Did not take long for Christie to take advantage of the perks of his job
"two trips on a State Police helicopter to get to his son's baseball games."
Good Luck - Christie - just think what you could do if you were the president
Nice try, Christie - did not think anyone was watching

Is Obama's current round the country campaigning at tax payers expense.
It's ILLEGIAL, but he continues to get away with it.

Nice try, Obama - did not think anyone was watching. Of course you did, and that's the point.

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Until such times that ALL potical campaignes are PUBLIC financed, say to only 100K each candidate then there will be abuse of the system. Make it an even playing field then watch and see who really wants to run for public office. Money talks, really loud and the more you can get the louder your message that seems to be more and more BS.

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If the usual rhetoric that goes something like because Obama is black he will carry the black vote(s)...again.

Does that mean because Christie is lebeled "fat" and over 40% of Americans are obese, that he will carry the vote of the obese/fat folks?
Will create a new dilema for the obese or fat blacks.
For those who look for possible racist tones....there are none intended here. Just stating parameters for voting blocks by categories just like they do every single day in the media. No more racist than the commentary about Obama carrying the black vote.

None intended, but I am sure the twisters can find something to work on.

btk

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Interesting, does this mean that 90% of the unstable people voted for Pelosi?

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Funny, I always thought she was a sensible conservative. Her husband could not believe that she voted for Obama. It has been awhile since I have talked to her. Do not know how she feels about her vote now. Maybe the spell is gone and she regrets voting for the worst President in history.

Though her motivation may be questioned, I admire her for getting it right. :cus:

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"... voting for the worst President in history."

Though her motivation may be questioned, I admire her for getting it right.

Worst president in history? In the paper this morning there was a list of presidents with lower ratings then Obama. Both Bushes were on that list, as was Carter. I think it was 17 who had lower ratings. REALITY CHECK!

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:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Lists are a dime a dozen and they change daily. No credit at all.

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Would he run as a Republican or as an independent?

Seems to me he might be better off letting that gang of 11 beat themselves up with some of the goofy stuff they're saying, and just go his own way as an independent. The big question is whether he'd be able to get on the state ballots as an independent.

While he wouldn't get money from the GOP national committee, my guess is that that money would flood in. I know I'd make a contribution. Then he wouldn't be beholden to the various powerful factions in the GOP. That would be a very good thing, I think.

Then again, I'm no political consultant.

If he runs as an independent, he will be responsable for the re-election of Obama.

He should get in or shut up. I am not sure that we need him. I'm sure, we don't.

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"... voting for the worst President in history."

Though her motivation may be questioned, I admire her for getting it right.

Worst president in history? In the paper this morning there was a list of presidents with lower ratings then Obama. Both Bushes were on that list, as was Carter. I think it was 17 who had lower ratings. REALITY CHECK!

:agree:

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I thinke I'd actually vote for him after he jumped all over the tea party and the way congress is currently treating the disaster relief for those four states..Disgusting spoiled brats....

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This image-obsessive culture of ours continues to push us downward into total banality.

Chris Christie possible entrance is welcomed but so would Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio. The reason is there are too many left over candidates campaigning now. Those candidates will fare no better this time around.

Rick Perry being as subtle as a train wreck approach is his demise. Romney's
insistence his health care plan was good flies in the face of logic given the problems MA. is having. I would have had more respect for him had he admitted it was a mistake. Beside which there is anything he saying that grabs my interest.

The presidential 2012 race is one GOP can win and it is only through their own mistakes that it will be lost. The GOP party needs to get its act together

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villagegolfer, must have been that 90% voting for her. She got re-elected.

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villagegolfer, must have been that 90% voting for her. She got re-elected.

Well, she has San Fransisco as part of her district. Enough said.:laugh:

[Guest]

Check out the people who voted for President Obama AND will vote for him again. They are 90%+ African-Americans, most Hispanics, most Democrats, most under 35 year olds, most college-educated people, most people out of a job, most people who are not in the upper-middle class, so this does not a great number to vote Republican.

Add in the factor that a neo-facist Tea Party favored Republican extremist will drive away the moderate Republican vote either to the Democrat side or just to stay at home - and you have a perfect win for President Obama again.

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Check out the people who voted for President Obama AND will vote for him again. They are 90%+ African-Americans, most Hispanics, most Democrats, most under 35 year olds, most college-educated people, most people out of a job, most people who are not in the upper-middle class, so this does not a great number to vote Republican.

Add in the factor that a neo-facist Tea Party favored Republican extremist will drive away the moderate Republican vote either to the Democrat side or just to stay at home - and you have a perfect win for President Obama again.

Keep dreamin'. You do make me laugh, though. Thanks for the yucks.:laugh:

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Ritchie the enforcer...no my friend,you are dreaming...buggy you are absolutely right...

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Ritchie the enforcer...no my friend,you are dreaming...buggy you are absolutely right...

Brilliant post. You are so full of original ideas. You don't have to defend my good friend Buggy, as he knows how I mean my remarks to him.

Why don't you try using what's left of your brain and think about what throwing meaningless epithets suggests about your own relevance to anything said here.

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Check out the people who voted for President Obama AND will vote for him again. They are 90%+ African-Americans, most Hispanics, most Democrats, most under 35 year olds, most college-educated people, most people out of a job, most people who are not in the upper-middle class, so this does not a great number to vote Republican.

Add in the factor that a neo-facist Tea Party favored Republican extremist will drive away the moderate Republican vote either to the Democrat side or just to stay at home - and you have a perfect win for President Obama again.

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Brilliant post. You are so full of original ideas. You don't have to defend my good friend Buggy, as he knows how I mean my remarks to him.

Why don't you try using what's left of your brain and think about what throwing meaningless epithets suggests about your own relevance to anything said here.

:bigbow: Don't cha just love Saturday Nights. LOL

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Ah,the enforcer and friend are out tonight without your google...Whatsa matter you don't like the fact that someone stands up to you two...You guys make me laugh every day...Gives me another thing to be thankful for..What are you gonna whine about when we kick you butts in the next election?

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Ah,the enforcer and friend are out tonight without your google...Whatsa matter you don't like the fact that someone stands up to you two...You guys make me laugh every day...Gives me another thing to be thankful for..What are you gonna whine about when we kick you butts in the next election?

There he goes again, addressing posters and not adding to the topic. You are so predictable, and that is good for us.

I think Governor Christie would shake things up and ante the fun and stimulate the debate.

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Yeah, they will. But the extremists will be historically wrong.

John Adams was no slouch as a POTUS, and he was kinda tubby, often pictured with a double chin and a protruding gut.

William Howard Taft was such a lardass that he regularly got stuck in one of the White House bathtubs and had to be helped out.

Then there was Teddy Roosevelt. Teddy was pretty fit and tough, but a lightweight he was not.

So Christie would be in good company as far as his avoirdupois is concerned.

As far as your endorsement is concerned, Richie, c'mon get on the bandwagon with me. I'll endorse Christie in a nanosecond. He's light years better and more electable than all but one of the current GOP candidates.

How long do the think it would take Christie to stick a flamethrower in an appropriate place in some of the word-parsing, negative, obstructionist, unproductive members of Congress?

Let's not forget how critical media driven image is. Folks voted for Adams and Taft before superficial image was everything. I'd speculate most citizens had never seen a full-body image of either before they voted. Teddy was a Rough Rider, so it was ok that he got a little pudgy. The tailored suits made up for it. The fact that people so quickly mention Christie's physical size is testimony to the horrible fact that superficial image is now almost everything. For most of our lifetimes, perhaps we could say the major reason R's and D's have been elected was simply because they 'looked good'. Once the favorable media image is broadcast, the money rolls in. Those who pay real attention to what the candidates believe in are becoming scarce as hens' teeth. (my mother's old saying, meaning: 'really rare', or 'an honest politician').

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Let's not forget how critical media driven image is. Folks voted for Adams and Taft before superficial image was everything. I'd speculate most citizens had never seen a full-body image of either before they voted. Teddy was a Rough Rider, so it was ok that he got a little pudgy. The tailored suits made up for it. The fact that people so quickly mention Christie's physical size is testimony to the horrible fact that superficial image is now almost everything. For most of our lifetimes, perhaps we could say the major reason R's and D's have been elected was simply because they 'looked good'. Once the favorable media image is broadcast, the money rolls in. Those who pay real attention to what the candidates believe in are becoming scarce as hens' teeth. (my mother's old saying, meaning: 'really rare', or 'an honest politician').
For once I have to agree with you. Back in Lincoln's day the newspapers were brutal. He was described in certain papers as resembling a monkey.