How the War on Poverty Was Lost

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I urge you to spend a few minutes to view this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3weEy7pykPQ&feature=player_embedded

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Excellent video, and proof that not all young Americans have drunk the koolaid!

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I urge you to spend a few minutes to view this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3weEy7pykPQ&feature=player_embedded

Spoken by the lips of a child from a wealthy family. Those of us that had that kind of head start can say Sorry About That to those poor unfortunates that are just too lazy to go out and get one of the millions of unfilled and high paying jobs that the market so desperately needs workers to fill. The unemployment offices are begging for workers to take the jobs that are open. Shame on the lazy, welfare drawing bums of this great nation.

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Spoken by the lips of a child from a wealthy family. Those of us that had that kind of head start can say Sorry About That to those poor unfortunates that are just too lazy to go out and get one of the millions of unfilled and high paying jobs that the market so desperately needs workers to fill. The unemployment offices are begging for workers to take the jobs that are open. Shame on the lazy, welfare drawing bums of this great nation.

How do you know her and her wealthy familiy?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReeXzJYDsBM&feature=player_embedded

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How do you know her and her wealthy familiy?

Friends of the family

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Excellent video, and proof that not all young Americans have drunk the koolaid!

Proof????....I think not.

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Excellent video, and proof that not all young Americans have drunk the koolaid!

Only the young ones who got stuck in public schools or had parents who didn't pay attention to what brainwashing their children are exposed to.

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The point was well made where people are discouraged by the system to raise themselves out of poverty.


You guys lost me when the young woman insinuated that there is a connection between Obama and poverty. We must remember that the economy was losing 7 to 8 hundred thousand jobs in the last months of the Bush Administration.

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Yea, but he promised that spending a trillion dollars would keep unemployment below 8% and we would live happily ever after.

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Yea, but he promised that spending a trillion dollars would keep unemployment below 8% and we would live happily ever after.

That was before we republicans shut down washington. Ya gotta give him some credit.

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That was before we republicans shut down washington. Ya gotta give him some credit.

Of course your right. I would be neglectful if I didn't give Obama credit.

I credit him with the Solyndra solar-company debacle and The Fast and Furious scandal. Wasting a trillion dollars, high unemployment etc. etc.

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Of course your right. I would be neglectful if I didn't give Obama credit.

I credit him with the Solyndra solar-company debacle and The Fast and Furious scandal. Wasting a trillion dollars, high unemployment etc. etc.

Well, there ya go. So he has done something and I bet some good friends of his benefited greatly from those transactions.

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Let's see the topic was:

How the Was on Poverty Was Lost

Well, could be that we ran out of poor people, no, thant did not happen.

Then maybe we ran out of granades to throw at poor people, no still have pelenty of those.

Then maybe it might be the education that public schools are now teaching. Yep, that's what happened.

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Spoken by the lips of a child from a wealthy family. Those of us that had that kind of head start can say Sorry About That to those poor unfortunates that are just too lazy to go out and get one of the millions of unfilled and high paying jobs that the market so desperately needs workers to fill. The unemployment offices are begging for workers to take the jobs that are open. Shame on the lazy, welfare drawing bums of this great nation.

Here we go with the alinsky tactics again.

This young woman made an unbias, logical and unemotional presentation clearly spelling out the cause(s) of poverty.

These are the same principles spoken by say Herman Cain. Was he the child from a wealthy family? We all have witnessed the courage of severely disabled people who have overcome many obstacles to live comfortable lives such as Dr. CharlesKruthammer . Conversely normal healthy people who feel entitled and in fact demand it.

I continue to ponder this question "Why do some people work so hard to disprove that a free market system is the best way out of poverty?

The most important aspect of this video points to the fact that America is at a crossroads. Do they want the European model or push to to keep us as a free enterprise system?

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Here we go with the alinsky tactics again.

This young woman made an unbias, logical and unemotional presentation clearly spelling out the cause(s) of poverty.

These are the same principles spoken by say Herman Cain. Was he the child from a wealthy family? We all have witnessed the courage of severely disabled people who have overcome many obstacles to live comfortable lives such as Dr. CharlesKruthammer . Conversely normal healthy people who feel entitled and in fact demand it.

I continue to ponder this question "Why do some people work so hard to disprove that a free market system is the best way out of poverty?

The most important aspect of this video points to the fact that America is at a crossroads. Do they want the European model or push to to keep us as a free enterprise system?

Go European. :MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

I spent a major portion of my adult life in Europe. They have a much safer and better lifestyle than most American have. I do fine in America because I am a rich white man, but if you are not, this is not a place to live the good life.

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Here we go again....Stupidski tactics.

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Let's see the topic was:

How the Was on Poverty Was Lost

Well, could be that we ran out of poor people, no, thant did not happen.

Then maybe we ran out of granades to throw at poor people, no still have pelenty of those.

Then maybe it might be the education that public schools are now teaching. Yep, that's what happened.

:BigApplause: Couldn't agree more. Need to add that this young lady holds the same opinions as my son (24) and daughter (26), who are neither from a wealthy family nor the products of public education!

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There is a basic truism.

If you subsidize something, you get more of it.

Think about that.

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Go European. :MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

I spent a major portion of my adult life in Europe. They have a much safer and better lifestyle than most American have. I do fine in America because I am a rich white man, but if you are not, this is not a place to live the good life.

Let's see it seems "I am entitled to my benefits" young Brits rioted like spoiled children recently. It seems PM Cameron recently made it clear that they are going to reduce the number of immgrants to their country. Europeans and even the liberal oriented Hollanders are fighting against the rapid advancement of the Muslim cultural into their society. Europeans are so heavily government subsidised that its breaking their economic backs. We complain about our corrupt system but by comparison most of the european governments make us look like pikers.

Finally I don't believe you really meant what you said because I read many of your other posts and you are intelligent. You may want to reconsider and thank God you live in America despite some of its minor blemishes.

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Villager II, I guess you missed Europe in the 70s and 80s. Remember the Red Bridgade and Badder Meinhof gang. Not as safe as you think since they were killing people and blowing things up.

One of the reasons I retired and did not stay in Germany was because of them. Got tired of every morning crawling around my car checking for bombs, and was really glad that I was fortunate enough to be authorized to be armed all the time by the U. S. military and the German Government.

After 13 years in Europe I was glad to be back in the United States. Glad that you are a rich white man, but rich or poor life in the US is much better than any place in Europe.

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Villager II, I guess you missed Europe in the 70s and 80s. Remember the Red Bridgade and Badder Meinhof gang. Not as safe as you think since they were killing people and blowing things up.

One of the reasons I retired and did not stay in Germany was because of them. Got tired of every morning crawling around my car checking for bombs, and was really glad that I was fortunate enough to be authorized to be armed all the time by the U. S. military and the German Government.

After 13 years in Europe I was glad to be back in the United States. Glad that you are a rich white man, but rich or poor life in the US is much better than any place in Europe.

OK.

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Let's see it seems "I am entitled to my benefits" young Brits rioted like spoiled children recently. It seems PM Cameron recently made it clear that they are going to reduce the number of immgrants to their country. Europeans and even the liberal oriented Hollanders are fighting against the rapid advancement of the Muslim cultural into their society. Europeans are so heavily government subsidised that its breaking their economic backs. We complain about our corrupt system but by comparison most of the european governments make us look like pikers.

Finally I don't believe you really meant what you said because I read many of your other posts and you are intelligent. You may want to reconsider and thank God you live in America despite some of its minor blemishes.

Ya nailed me Rubicon. I thought someone would say GO BACK TO EUROPE but no one did. I like to say things that at least make people think. So many of us have never been overseas nor in a ghetto, have never been poor etc. etc. yet talk with such authority on issues they know nothing about and it is so obvious that they allow themselves to stereotype groups. I have lived overseas, worked with folks that lived most of their lives in ghettos and last but not least, I have been very poor and feel I have a rounded background on a lot of the issues this thread touches on, so yes When I see a brick wall, I throw sarcasm at it just to keep my own sanity. SO::::: I am a conservative, but will always take the side of the underdog even when that is a Liberal Democrat when they are being brutally attacked by the 6 PAC. I will do that even when I agree with the 6 PAC on the issue, because it is just WRONG to gang up on anyone.

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Why would any one tell you to go to Europe? If you decided that Europe was a better place to live and YOU decided you want to go there, go, but never would I will you to go there. That would have to be your decision.

Having been in third world countries and all over Europe, there is no place like the US of A. Even with all our faults, this is the best place to live, just ask all those foreigners that want to come to the US of A. We must be doing something right or they would all stay home.

Now tell me how any of your posts related to "How The War On Poverty Was Lost?"

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Why would any one tell you to go to Europe? If you decided that Europe was a better place to live and YOU decided you want to go there, go, but never would I will you to go there. That would have to be your decision.

Having been in third world countries and all over Europe, there is no place like the US of A. Even with all our faults, this is the best place to live, just ask all those foreigners that want to come to the US of A. We must be doing something right or they would all stay home.

Now tell me how any of your posts related to "How The War On Poverty Was Lost?"

I thought someone would say GO BACK TO EUROPE but no one did. I like to say things that at least make people think. So many of us have never been overseas nor in a ghetto, have never been poor etc. etc. yet talk with such authority on issues they know nothing about and it is so obvious that they allow themselves to stereotype groups. I have lived overseas, worked with folks that lived most of their lives in ghettos and last but not least, I have been very poor and feel I have a rounded background on a lot of the issues this thread touches on, so yes When I see a brick wall, I throw sarcasm at it just to keep my own sanity. SO::::: I am a conservative, but will always take the side of the underdog even when that is a Liberal Democrat when they are being brutally attacked by the 6 PAC. I will do that even when I agree with the 6 PAC on the issue, because it is just WRONG to gang up on anyone.

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I thought someone would say GO BACK TO EUROPE but no one did. I like to say things that at least make people think. So many of us have never been overseas nor in a ghetto, have never been poor etc. etc. yet talk with such authority on issues they know nothing about and it is so obvious that they allow themselves to stereotype groups. I have lived overseas, worked with folks that lived most of their lives in ghettos and last but not least, I have been very poor and feel I have a rounded background on a lot of the issues this thread touches on, so yes When I see a brick wall, I throw sarcasm at it just to keep my own sanity. SO::::: I am a conservative, but will always take the side of the underdog even when that is a Liberal Democrat when they are being brutally attacked by the 6 PAC. I will do that even when I agree with the 6 PAC on the issue, because it is just WRONG to gang up on anyone.

Not sure who the 6 PAC is, but I would never tell you, a fellow biker, what to do...Especially not in CAPITAL letters! One never knows which side of the fence you are going to come from on any given issue at any given time. That keeps me thinking, so I guess you have succeeded! :clap2:

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I thought someone would say GO BACK TO EUROPE but no one did. I like to say things that at least make people think. So many of us have never been overseas nor in a ghetto, have never been poor etc. etc. yet talk with such authority on issues they know nothing about and it is so obvious that they allow themselves to stereotype groups. I have lived overseas, worked with folks that lived most of their lives in ghettos and last but not least, I have been very poor and feel I have a rounded background on a lot of the issues this thread touches on, so yes When I see a brick wall, I throw sarcasm at it just to keep my own sanity. SO::::: I am a conservative, but will always take the side of the underdog even when that is a Liberal Democrat when they are being brutally attacked by the 6 PAC. I will do that even when I agree with the 6 PAC on the issue, because it is just WRONG to gang up on anyone.

Exaggeration. Brutally attacked? Sounds like a drama queen.:1rotfl:

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Exaggeration. Brutally attacked? Sounds like a drama queen.:1rotfl:

Nah, reminds me why I hate watching sports with the mother-in-law in the room. Once our team begins to win (a rare occurence in itself), the mother-in-law begins to feel sorry for the other team and thus cheers for the them!

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Not sure who the 6 PAC is, but I would never tell you, a fellow biker, what to do...Especially not in CAPITAL letters! One never knows which side of the fence you are going to come from on any given issue at any given time. That keeps me thinking, so I guess you have succeeded! :clap2:

The 6 PAC is the term that the intellectually challenged among the liberals on this forum have come up with in which they believe they're demeaning the conservative posters who expose their duplicity with amazing regularity.

The fact that The Villager II (name remarkably similar to the ousted VillagerII) is also promoting this designation, and also talks of phantom "vicious attacks" by conservative posters is highly suspicious for someone who claims to be "conservative".

I'm just saying.

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It is my personal belief that being conservative does not give me the right to insult people using any bullying tactic, like calling them intellectually challenged. I often disagree with liberals, but does that mean they are the one that is stupid. I think not. Many of the liberals on this board come from a very diverse background with worldly travels and higher educational experiences than us conservatives. With that in mind, this conservative is of the opinion, since I am not the all knowing GOD, they may just be right. Now that does not change my opinion of them, but it does give me reason to hold my comments down to civil debate rather than childish slander. I'm just saying.

NOTE: I have been here for 5 years, but I never heard of villagerII. I wanted The Villager, but it was taken so I used the villager II

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Richie,

I am glad to see you did not lump all liberals into the "intellectually challenged" grouping - just as I would not lump all the conservatives on this forum into the neo-facist grouping albeit there are some deserving that grouping.

As for "brutally attacked" by someone on this forum - BULLFEATHERS! If your feelings are so easily hurt by a jibe, it is time to pull the plug on your computer connection.

Take a deep breath and just enjoy reading the opinions of others even though you do not agree with all of them. Enjoy reactions of your husband or wife when you start out a conversation with, "Let me tell you something that was posted today on the Political forum on Talk of The Villages". It is fun to see their eyes roll around in their heads.

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It is my personal belief that being conservative does not give me the right to insult people using any bullying tactic, like calling them intellectually challenged. I often disagree with liberals, but does that mean they are the one that is stupid. I think not. Many of the liberals on this board come from a very diverse background with worldly travels and higher educational experiences than us conservatives. With that in mind, this conservative is of the opinion, since I am not the all knowing GOD, they may just be right. Now that does not change my opinion of them, but it does give me reason to hold my comments down to civil debate rather than childish slander. I'm just saying.

NOTE: I have been here for 5 years, but I never heard of villagerII. I wanted The Villager, but it was taken so I used the villager II

5 years?; your join date is July 2011. That's not even 5 months by my calculation. I had to go back and look. I've been here a while and know your posts only commenced very recently.

Who specifically did I "bully" by saying "those liberals who are intellectually challenged"?; which was said, by the way, in response to the childish 6 PAC remarks now and in the past. Try comprehending my words a little better. Do you even know the real meaning of the word "bully".

If you as a conservative with conservative ideals know the proper path to bring our country back into prosperity, how can you even doubt it to consider that maybe the socialist leaning liberal's agenda may be correct?

A true conservative never doubts his "rightness".

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Richie,

I am glad to see you did not lump all liberals into the "intellectually challenged" grouping - just as I would not lump all the conservatives on this forum into the neo-facist grouping albeit there are some deserving that grouping.

As for "brutally attacked" by someone on this forum - BULLFEATHERS! If your feelings are so easily hurt by a jibe, it is time to pull the plug on your computer connection.

Take a deep breath and just enjoy reading the opinions of others even though you do not agree with all of them. Enjoy reactions of your husband or wife when you start out a conversation with, "Let me tell you something that was posted today on the Political forum on Talk of The Villages". It is fun to see their eyes roll around in their heads.

Thank you for correctly understanding my post.

Oh, and if I do tell my wife any more about this forum her eyes ARE going to roll right out of her head. You got that pegged also.

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Pretty good words, Richie, but I missed seeing "elitist" with the "socialist, left leaning liberal agenda. I thought that was a term you would discuss with your buddies and the baristas at Starbuck's.

Good to be back in The Villages even after a week of seeing outstanding fall leaves in New England.

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5 years?; your join date is July 2011. That's not even 5 months by my calculation. I had to go back and look. I've been here a while and know your posts only commenced very recently.

Who specifically did I "bully" by saying "those liberals who are intellectually challenged"?; which was said, by the way, in response to the childish 6 PAC remarks now and in the past. Try comprehending my words a little better. Do you even know the real meaning of the word "bully".

If you as a conservative with conservative ideals know the proper path to bring our country back into prosperity, how can you even doubt it to consider that maybe the socialist leaning liberal's agenda may be correct?

A true conservative never doubts his "rightness".

And never admits his "wrongness" :boom:

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And never admits his "wrongness" :boom:

That's because only liberals are wrong.:cus:

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5 years?; your join date is July 2011. That's not even 5 months by my calculation. I had to go back and look. I've been here a while and know your posts only commenced very recently.

Who specifically did I "bully" by saying "those liberals who are intellectually challenged"?; which was said, by the way, in response to the childish 6 PAC remarks now and in the past. Try comprehending my words a little better. Do you even know the real meaning of the word "bully".

If you as a conservative with conservative ideals know the proper path to bring our country back into prosperity, how can you even doubt it to consider that maybe the socialist leaning liberal's agenda may be correct?

A true conservative never doubts his "rightness".

Please stop with your personal assault on me.

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Please stop with your personal assault on me.

He was responding to you calling him a bully. He did not start the volley.

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He was responding to you calling him a bully. He did not start the volley.

I understand you are his body guard, but he is a very big boy, and does not need your help to defend himself with me. I am asking him to please just let me be.

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I understand you are his body guard, but he is a very big boy, and does not need your help to defend himself with me. I am asking him to please just let me be.

Sorry, just calling em like I see em. I am not a bodyguard. I have never met the man.

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Sorry, just calling em like I see em. I am not a bodyguard. I have never met the man.

You have a PM from me.

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Please stop with your personal assault on me.

You don't want comments that respond to you personally, then don't post about someone personally. Talk about an issue and leave it at that. You address me, you can be certain that I'll respond.

P.S. You can try to hide behind your P.M. in which you called me an evil S.O.B.; but I can make people aware of your duplicity. I just did.

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You don't want comments that respond to you personally, then don't post about someone personally. Talk about an issue and leave it at that. You address me, you can be certain that I'll respond.

P.S. You can try to hide behind your P.M. in which you called me an evil S.O.B.; but I can make people aware of your duplicity. I just did.

I try hard to avoid you, but you continue to attack me and anyone on this board that does not bow down to you. Please try to be more civil. Thats all anyone can ask of you.

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The 6 PAC is the term that the intellectually challenged among the liberals on this forum have come up with in which they believe they're demeaning the conservative posters who expose their duplicity with amazing regularity.

The fact that The Villager II (name remarkably similar to the ousted VillagerII) is also promoting this designation, and also talks of phantom "vicious attacks" by conservative posters is highly suspicious for someone who claims to be "conservative".

I'm just saying.

This is what you said to me and that is why I asked you to please stop insulting me personally
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This is what you said to me and that is why I asked you to please stop insulting me personally
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If you've taken it as an insult, fine. That's your guilty conscience at work. I take the fact that you want to lump me into a pack as insulting. I am my own man, my words are my words, I confer with nobody and answer to no one.

You need to lighten up and not take everything as the end of the world. People will disagree with you and challenge your thinking. (Sorry, but it's true). Try not to feel it's the end of the world. Try to respond with something better than "Oh, I'm offended". It doesn't wear well.

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If you've taken it as an insult, fine. That's your guilty conscience at work. I take the fact that you want to lump me into a pack as insulting. I am my own man, my words are my words, I confer with nobody and answer to no one.

You need to lighten up and not take everything as the end of the world. People will disagree with you and challenge your thinking. (Sorry, but it's true). Try not to feel it's the end of the world. Try to respond with something better than "Oh, I'm offended". It doesn't wear well.

Your right and I am conservative from now on. I will not try to be the peace maker anymore. The pinko liberals can defend themselves from now on.

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This thread has veered far off topic and has become a personal argument. It will be closed temporarily to allow the admin to review and determine whether to close it, prune off topic posts, or take other action.