Occupy Wall Street or Tea Party?

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A very interesting poll from Time magazine revealed something interesting about voter perceptions.

http://news.yahoo.com/time-poll-obama-still-ahead-gop-rivals-voters-081010901.html

The survey revealed that respondents have a better impression of the left-leaning protest movement known as Occupy Wall Street than they do of the Tea Party movement. Fifty-four percent of respondents harbor a positive view of the burgeoning protest movement, well above the 23% with a negative opinion. By contrast, just 27% of those surveyed have favorable views of the Tea Party, while 65% say its impact on U.S. politics since its inception in 2009 has been negative or negligible.

Sounds about right to me. Remember, not all American voters are the right-wing as on this forum. Reality is out there in mainstream America - not just this little bubble.

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Time will tell! :ho:

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I guess the American people like lawbreaking mobs who spit on military personnel in uniform and defecate and urinate in the street rather than the peaceful associations of working class Americans asking for smaller government?

That's what sounds right to you? You kill me Buggy.

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Gee I wonder if the play they get from the lame stream media several times per day...hand picking interviewees to get the "right" message across has anything to do with it.

VS the negative, derogatory approach to the tea party sessions.

It is rigged to benefit the dems without a doubt.

I wonder about all these participants who are there or where ever for weeks at a time yapping about jobs....and what jobs do they hold to be able to be in the streets for those weeks at a time? How about asking the average person who has to go to work every day what they think about theses gatherings? How about asking those who have truly been out beating the bricks to find a job for many, many weeks?

Do these organizers, supporters and the lame stream media think America is buying what they are pretending?

They are not!! Just ask em!!

btk

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:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1 rotfl::1rotfl:

Time Poll? Are you serious???

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I guess the American people like lawbreaking mobs who spit on military personnel in uniform and defecate and urinate in the street rather than the peaceful associations of working class Americans asking for smaller government?

That's what sounds right to you? You kill me Buggy.

Or Tea Partiers that spit on African American members of Congress? :boom:

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Or Tea Partiers that spit on African American members of Congress? :boom:

It never happened but thank you for adding clarity to this subject. I really look forward to your in depth analysis.

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Or Tea Partiers that spit on African American members of Congress? :boom:

Except that that never happened and is a well known lie. So :boom: yourself

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Or Tea Partiers that spit on African American members of Congress? :boom:

Dale do you really believe that happened? Think about what your implying here. If someone from the Tea Party had spit upon a black man, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would have dominated every news station for weeks about racial discrimination. Well, that didn't happen because it was not factual.

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Or Tea Partiers that spit on African American members of Congress? :boom:


Your credibility just took a dive !!!!

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Looks as the right-wingers just want to start a contest of "did-not" and just keep adding on to that mantra.

I looked at the video clip and it sure looked as though someone did spit on Cleaver. I cannot say 100% but it did look as though spitting took place. It did look like a frenzied mob that confronted the Black Caucus and had to be held back by the Capitol Police.



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It never happened but thank you for adding clarity to this subject. I really look forward to your in depth analysis.

I fully expected that denial. Is it fun being delusional? :boom:

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Looks as the right-wingers just want to start a contest of "did-not" and just keep adding on to that mantra.

I looked at the video clip and it sure looked as though someone did spit on Cleaver. I cannot say 100% but it did look as though spitting took place. It did look like a frenzied mob that confronted the Black Caucus and had to be held back by the Capitol Police.



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Alinsky tactic. Say something over and over again until it sounds like the truth. Someone offered a $100,000 reward if they could find video of offense. Never was collected.

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However, the spitting or non-spitting is not the topic of this post. It is how the Real Americans feel about the Tea Party. American voters were more in favor of the Occupy Wall Street protestors than with the Tea Party.

Sounds like a Tea Party or right wing extremist tactic to change the subject when they find themselves on the defensive, doesn't it?

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They are both over the top violent mobs in my opinion.

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They are both over the top violent mobs in my opinion.

I do not remember any violence at any meeting I attended. Could you please post a link?

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However, the spitting or non-spitting is not the topic of this post. It is how the Real Americans feel about the Tea Party. American voters were more in favor of the Occupy Wall Street protestors than with the Tea Party.

Sounds like a Tea Party or right wing extremist tactic to change the subject when they find themselves on the defensive, doesn't it?

Again, your poll source is not credible.

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Alinsky tactic. Say something over and over again until it sounds like the truth. Someone offered a $100,000 reward if they could find video of offense. Never was collected.

Stupidski tactic. Deny the truth. :boom:

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Oh, I forgot that the only credible polls come out of FOX Noise.:boom:

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if it were not for the minority (not race....most of the time) issues there would not be much dialogue for some.

Much be a lack of real issues or the talking points are not released yet!

btk

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I do not remember any violence at any meeting I attended. Could you please post a link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5pdwTQ4xA8

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20001591-504083.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/01/more_tea_party_violence.html

http://templeofmut.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/examples-of-tea-party-violence-at-san-diego-rally/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4BU8pfz2O4

http://open.salon.com/blog/razzle_dazzle/2010/10/26/tea_party_violence_in_kentucky_i_am_outraged

I have hundreds if this does not convince you.

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You are going to have "crashers" at almost any event. They are the exception not the rule. At every one I attended there were just ordinary people at all walks of life.Blue collar and white collar and every one in between. Just concerned citizens that are worried where the direction of this country is going. Out of control spending and taxes are the main conversations.

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This thread and posts are the epitome of what is wrong with our politics of today, with great examples of the intrusion of the internet and our total lack of flexibility with regards to our country

And we wonder why our congress REFLECTS EXACTLY THIS !!!!

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The videos above are disturbing....not because they were Tea Party members, but because they were American.... It doesn't matter the political slant, this type of behavior is not good for any of us.

Unfortunately, whenever there's a movement that is a little too far left or right of center, we seem to enable the fringe elements [on both sides] to act in this manner.

When I see this type of stuff going on in Greece, London, Berlin, Tripoli, etc. I'm always glad that I live in America, where this sort of thing doesn't occur.

Hmmmmm......

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The videos above are disturbing....not because they were Tea Party members, but because they were American.... It doesn't matter the political slant, this type of behavior is not good for any of us.

Unfortunately, whenever there's a movement that is a little too far left or right of center, we seem to enable the fringe elements [on both sides] to act in this manner.

When I see this type of stuff going on in Greece, London, Berlin, Tripoli, etc. I'm always glad that I live in America, where this sort of thing doesn't occur.

Hmmmmm......

I remember 7 or 8 years ago the media showed demonstrations that were violent and mean. Many signs showing Bush as Hitler. Code Pink was always there. Burning of pictures and flags. The wars are still there but the demonstrations went away. Why? Democrat in White House. If there was a demonstration the press would not show up.

For years the lefties have been jealous of the Tea Party so they demonize it and now decide to copy it.

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I remember 7 or 8 years ago the media showed demonstrations that were violent and mean. Many signs showing Bush as Hitler. Code Pink was always there. Burning of pictures and flags. The wars are still there but the demonstrations went away. Why? Democrat in White House. If there was a demonstration the press would not show up.

For years the lefties have been jealous of the Tea Party so they demonize it and now decide to copy it.

I think my point is that no reasonable person could be very proud of this type of behavior from the "fringes" of either party.

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Both Memeson and Villagegolfer are 100% correct. Its when we can say the small factions within any party are the culprits of violence, then at least we can move one step forward. Like I said, they are both mobs when they use violence to get their point across. In my opinion, they all lose support and that is the GOP's concern at this time.

If a candidate supports 99% of ones concerns but the 1 % he/she does not support is:

Gay Marriage or pro-life or gun control or Medicare or SS or etc. etc.


Then, that candidate is dead in the water. Democrats pull together better for the best they can get candidate for their causes. Republicans splinter off into separate groups. You can say that they will all come together when the vote is against Obama, but I say that many on the fence will go DEM after they have months of GOP members trashing each other.

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You are going to have "crashers" at almost any event. They are the exception not the rule. At every one I attended there were just ordinary people at all walks of life.Blue collar and white collar and every one in between. Just concerned citizens that are worried where the direction of this country is going. Out of control spending and taxes are the main conversations.

And then there was you...in sweet fragrant meadows of dawn. :boom:

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Anyone amateur historian can verify tactics used by the Nazi's, that are very similar to what we are seeing in these videos. Infiltrate and then become disruptive enough to tarnish or change the public opinion of any given group! Having been to numerous Tea Party events, just saying, these videos seem mighty suspicious. Retirees, farmers, war vets, and young families are the most prevelant at the events I've been to!:ho:

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Anyone amateur historian can verify tactics used by the Nazi's, that are very similar to what we are seeing in these videos. Infiltrate and then become disruptive enough to tarnish or change the public opinion of any given group! Having been to numerous Tea Party events, just saying, these videos seem mighty suspicious. Retirees, farmers, war vets, and young families are the most prevelant at the events I've been to!:ho:
Why? I just don't get it. Is it just the shock value?

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Why? I just don't get it. Is it just the shock value?
Why don't you get out a history book and prove me wrong...?

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Memason,

The right-wing nuts are just trying their Stupidiski techniques one more time by calling everyone who does not agree with them a Nazi. Yes, shock value is what they are aiming for but their aim has gone right to the foot - as in shot themself in the foot.

Polls have shown that the American voters do not trust Tea Partiers.

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Why don't you get out a history book and prove me wrong...?

Look, it has nothing to do with whether it's historically right or wrong. There are a thousand ways to make your point, without invoking that word. When you associate the AMERICANS that are demonstrating for what they believe in with that regime, it's just wrong....in my book. At least they're out there doing something; not sitting at their computer, like you and I.

Just trying to keep it real here.....

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Memason,

The right-wing nuts are just trying their Stupidiski techniques one more time by calling everyone who does not agree with them a Nazi. Yes, shock value is what they are aiming for but their aim has gone right to the foot - as in shot themself in the foot.

Polls have shown that the American voters do not trust Tea Partiers.

Are these words better..."some pre-WWII Germans"?
Still waiting for the history book...Easier to throw mud than to get out a shovel and dig deep to find the truth?
That's OK, because until you come up with the proof that the post is wrong, mud washes off easily.

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Look, it has nothing to do with whether it's historically right or wrong. There are a thousand ways to make your point, without invoking that word. When you associate the AMERICANS that are demonstrating for what they believe in with that regime, it's just wrong....in my book. At least they're out there doing something; not sitting at their computer, like you and I.Just trying to keep it real here.....

At least WHO is out there doing something? AGITATORS? ...I am a very PEACEFUL and ACTIVE member of the Tea Party and just happen to be home on the computer for a short time today...We had planned to participate in the 38 mile Tombstone Cyle tour but have 40mph winds today.:ho:

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Looks as the right-wingers just want to start a contest of "did-not" and just keep adding on to that mantra.

I looked at the video clip and it sure looked as though someone did spit on Cleaver. I cannot say 100% but it did look as though spitting took place. It did look like a frenzied mob that confronted the Black Caucus and had to be held back by the Capitol Police.



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The Black Caucus deliberately tried to antagonize and provoke the crowd to violence and failed to do so. That is the unvarnished truth.

Since they didn't get the result they wanted, they made it up.

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They are both over the top violent mobs in my opinion.

This is how credibility as a conservative is lost; by buying the liberal lie and giving them comfort in their duplicity. Think about it.

(just conversation; don't be overly sensitive now, there's no threat implied in this post)

Buying into the lie seems worse, in my opinion, than the leftists who are posting here who know they're lying.

http://exposingliberallies.blogspot.com/2010/04/peaceful-tea-parties.html

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"The poll, conducted for TIME by Abt SRBI, surveyed 1,001 adults — 83% of whom described themselves as likely voters — between Oct. 9-10." Also, 669 of the 1,001 adults polled are familar with the Tea Party.

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This is how credibility as a conservative is lost; by buying the liberal lie and giving them comfort in their duplicity. Think about it.

(just conversation; don't be overly sensitive now, there's no threat implied in this post)

Buying into the lie seems worse, in my opinion, than the leftists who are posting here who know they're lying.

http://exposingliberallies.blogspot.com/2010/04/peaceful-tea-parties.html

I think you replied to the wrong post. I was only saying that both wall street and tea goofballs have enough nuts to be called a mob. I personally would join the tea goofballs since I am old, white and have short hair and therefore, at least I would blend in. Since I think they both are very destructive to the American way of life, I cannot agree with either one of these mobs. Please read my posts more slowly before you insult my credibility.

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Memason,

The right-wing nuts are just trying their Stupidiski techniques one more time by calling everyone who does not agree with them a Nazi. Yes, shock value is what they are aiming for but their aim has gone right to the foot - as in shot themself in the foot.

Polls have shown that the American voters do not trust Tea Partiers.

So I guess that since you like to call people names that you Comrade are not immune?

Read how the Time (very liberal) Poll was conducted.
FLAWED POLL:

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/flawed-poll-occupy-wall-st-vs-tea-party

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VillageGolfer,

Are you calling me "Comrade" as a sign of friendship? The only other reason is that you are calling me a Communist and then an earlier post by one of the conservatives said that liberals were Nazis.

May I set you straight? Nazis were the extreme right wing in Germany. Communists were extreme left wing people. The two are not interchangable titles.

Both are abhorent names and I certainly do not think you would be calling me either one. So, I will just have to take your calling me a comrade as a sign of friendship.

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VillageGolfer,

Are you calling me "Comrade" as a sign of friendship? The only other reason is that you are calling me a Communist and then an earlier post by one of the conservatives said that liberals were Nazis.

May I set you straight? Nazis were the extreme right wing in Germany. Communists were extreme left wing people. The two are not interchangable titles.

Both are abhorent names and I certainly do not think you would be calling me either one. So, I will just have to take your calling me a comrade as a sign of friendship.

You like calling people names and then offended when you are called one? Seems there is a name for you but I don't want to offend you.chilout

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Well, you certainly told me off.:1rotfl:

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:blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahbla hblah::blahblahblah:

Well, you certainly told me off.:1rotfl:

As your comrade says: Trite....tiresome :boom:

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I understand that the rules for posts in the Political forums are more lax than in the other forums but I see absolutely no reason to be calling fellow citizens of the United States either communists or nazis. I find both to be abhorrent. Have a discussion, air your differences, but leave the name calling to the bullys on the school yard. As educated adults it is not necessary!

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A very interesting poll from Time magazine revealed something interesting about voter perceptions.

http://news.yahoo.com/time-poll-obama-still-ahead-gop-rivals-voters-081010901.html

The survey revealed that respondents have a better impression of the left-leaning protest movement known as Occupy Wall Street than they do of the Tea Party movement. Fifty-four percent of respondents harbor a positive view of the burgeoning protest movement, well above the 23% with a negative opinion. By contrast, just 27% of those surveyed have favorable views of the Tea Party, while 65% say its impact on U.S. politics since its inception in 2009 has been negative or negligible.

Sounds about right to me. Remember, not all American voters are the right-wing as on this forum. Reality is out there in mainstream America - not just this little bubble.

This poll is not a surprise to me becausefar to many of Americans are losing their moral compass as evidenced by the type of screen viewing popular with these folks such as thefilthy reality shows and their making idols of musicians and singers most people my age ran from back then. We celebrate single motherhood . Our educational system has dumb down true learning to such a degree that we are beginning to be upstaged by third world countries. Drug and sex are treated as if they are rights of passage and just what the average kid is expected to do..................................

So if you believe I am surprised by that poll I am not, it just points to how far we have declined. when I was a kid attending catholic school our Mother Superior foretold that the way America was headed it would someday fall like Rome. We are getting closer and closer and because of that we need more Tea Party type organizations. Heck I now long for return of the Legion of Decency. So go ahead and celebrate these depraved derlicts who refuse to accept responsibility for their acts. In some respects illegal immigrants are prferable to the OWS proters.

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This poll is not a surprise to me becausefar to many of Americans are losing their moral compass as evidenced by the type of screen viewing popular with these folks such as thefilthy reality shows and their making idols of musicians and singers most people my age ran from back then. We celebrate single motherhood . Our educational system has dumb down true learning to such a degree that we are beginning to be upstaged by third world countries. Drug and sex are treated as if they are rights of passage and just what the average kid is expected to do..................................

So if you believe I am surprised by that poll I am not, it just points to how far we have declined. when I was a kid attending catholic school our Mother Superior foretold that the way America was headed it would someday fall like Rome. We are getting closer and closer and because of that we need more Tea Party type organizations. Heck I now long for return of the Legion of Decency. So go ahead and celebrate these depraved derlicts who refuse to accept responsibility for their acts. In some respects illegal immigrants are prferable to the OWS proters.

GREAT GREAT POST !!!

Flat out, on the mark in all you say. This nation has just deteriorated into a spectacle. Supporting groups who destroy property and flat out spend our taxpayer money (and if you add up the costs to cities and municipalities, the cost will be use) to show what they are AGAINST is scary. The sex and drugs are mainly the reason most are even there.

How about talking as it used to be...what we are FOR. Folks just accept things as you say today.....and say it is ok....without once thinking of what their actions do to our society. Why are these folks not supporting something or somebody instead of partying...and trust me...that is what is happening !!!

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GREAT GREAT POST !!!

Flat out, on the mark in all you say. This nation has just deteriorated into a spectacle. Supporting groups who destroy property and flat out spend our taxpayer money (and if you add up the costs to cities and municipalities, the cost will be use) to show what they are AGAINST is scary. The sex and drugs are mainly the reason most are even there.

How about talking as it used to be...what we are FOR. Folks just accept things as you say today.....and say it is ok....without once thinking of what their actions do to our society. Why are these folks not supporting something or somebody instead of partying...and trust me...that is what is happening !!!

Incredible post... You don't have one shred of evidence for the preposterous allegations you post here....partying? sex and drugs???? huge costs??? FOR nothing??? accept as you say???

Sorry, but the rhetoric is just unbelievable sometimes.

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The lamestream media has been hammering the Tea Party with as much enthusiasm as they slandered and libeled and defamed Gov. Sarah Palin. With the success they had in convincing a multitude of brain-dead Americans of Gov. Palin's "undesirability", they are hell-bent on repeating their "success" by misrepresenting and lying about the purpose and the nature of the working class Americans who identify themselves as supporters of the Tea Party.

Their ultimate goal is to get you to be too ashamed to admit you support the agenda of the Tea Party.

They won't succeed, but not for lack of trying.

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I understand that the rules for posts in the Political forums are more lax than in the other forums but I see absolutely no reason to be calling fellow citizens of the United States either communists or nazis. I find both to be abhorrent. Have a discussion, air your differences, but leave the name calling to the bullys on the school yard. As educated adults it is not necessary!

Could someone please quote the post that said "liberals are nazis"...?

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Incredible post... You don't have one shred of evidence for the preposterous allegations you post here....partying? sex and drugs???? huge costs??? FOR nothing??? accept as you say???

Sorry, but the rhetoric is just unbelievable sometimes.

Actually, there has been evidence of "Occupy" debauchery. This is a couple news stories commenting on the sex, drugs and lawlessness.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047168/Occupy-Wall-Street-protesters-make-love-class-war-sex-drugs-tap.html

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/it_nyc_lam_sterdam_bmE4vlV5aDUWhBRv9IbaiK?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

you may apologize to Katz at your earliest convenience.

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...and we have Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and the rest of the FOX Noise to make sure the truth, justice, and the American Way is felt all over this land.

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...and we have Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and the rest of the FOX Noise to make sure the truth, justice, and the American Way is felt all over this land.

Sorry if the real news doesn't fit your agenda. But you can always make it up as you go along. It's never stopped the liberal media before.

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Incredible post... You don't have one shred of evidence for the preposterous allegations you post here....partying? sex and drugs???? huge costs??? FOR nothing??? accept as you say???

Sorry, but the rhetoric is just unbelievable sometimes.

I beg to differ. If your not seeing it, then you better cruise for better media.

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I beg to differ. If your not seeing it, then you better cruise for better media.

Better media = Fox Noise; arm of Republican Party. :boom:

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Better media = Fox Noise; arm of Republican Party. :boom:

You guys make this soooooooo easy. You cheer me up; you know that?

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Actually, there has been evidence of "Occupy" debauchery. This is a couple news stories commenting on the sex, drugs and lawlessness.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047168/Occupy-Wall-Street-protesters-make-love-class-war-sex-drugs-tap.html

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/it_nyc_lam_sterdam_bmE4vlV5aDUWhBRv9IbaiK?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

you may apologize to Katz at your earliest convenience.

Granted, these links provide information to support your position. If you read the articles, they describe the folks who have "infiltrated" the OWS movement; hiding, if you will. I don't believe these articles accurately describe the movement, at large. I say, "fringe" elements that are with all of the movements; both left and right.

I could produce links too, but they would be characterized as the lame-stream media....how convenient ...

For what, do I owe Katz an apology ?

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You guys make this soooooooo easy. You cheer me up; you know that?

Wouldn't want to cause you to work hard in your retirement. :boom:

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Granted, these links provide information to support your position. If you read the articles, they describe the folks who have "infiltrated" the OWS movement; hiding, if you will. I don't believe these articles accurately describe the movement, at large. I say, "fringe" elements that are with all of the movements; both left and right.

I could produce links too, but they would be characterized as the lame-stream media....how convenient ...

For what, do I owe Katz an apology ?

Liberals are quick to notice possible infiltration of illegitimate protesters into the throngs of people at the "Occupy" protests on one hand, while in the other ignore similar reported behavior by leftists activists standing on the fringes of Tea Party rallies with vile signs meant to tarnish that gathering.

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Wouldn't want to cause you to work hard in your retirement. :boom:

I do appreciate it Dale.:clap2:

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Incredible post... You don't have one shred of evidence for the preposterous allegations you post here....partying? sex and drugs???? huge costs??? FOR nothing??? accept as you say???

Sorry, but the rhetoric is just unbelievable sometimes.

How about for starters Lindsy Lohan, Michael Jackson, about every hip hip rap or hard rock musician, singer or gripper. How about most of Hollywood. Is there anything on "E" "Spimke" MTV that has a social redeeming value for young people. Haven't these reality shows inspired kids to act dress and speak like immoral incompetents?

Haven't our schools failed because they teach our kids to feel rather than to think. You disagree then why are well educated people in the middle of the streets acting like anarchist? Why does teaching kids cultural diversity trump teaching them math science, geography, history and civics. Why do our scholastic standing continue downward while third world countries surpass our young people's scholastic grades?

Stop drinking the liberal kool aid. We are in a fight for our very way of life. Life is not fair so stop whinning and starting competing. God I'm sick and tired of that populist nonsense liberals keep feeding people. Get over yourselves. Earn some respect

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By the way a liberal columnist in the orlando Sentinel likened the Occupy Wall Street movement with the "Arab Spring". Let me ask, "How is that Arab Spring working for most of thos countries" Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Now in its 17th day, the de facto leadership of the protests lies in a body that calls itself the “General Assembly,” which The Nation, a progressive magazine, describes as “a horizontal, autonomous, leaderless, modified-consensus-based system with roots in anarchist thought.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/64993.html#ixzz1axUs7fzb

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Nazis and Communists Throw Their Support Behind Occupy Wall Street Movements?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/figures-nazi-party-throws-support-behind-occupy-wall-street-movement/

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Really now... Picking on one or two isolated incidents.. (The spitting and crapping).

Aren't you guilty of doing the same thing that you complain about when people argue that the Tea Party is made up of racist bigots because a few of THEM showed up at the rallies?

Yeah, there are plewnty of more substantial differences - though the arrests are almost entirely for trespassing and I suppose that's one way of sticking to your principles (as opposed to the old anarchist demonstrations of bashing in shop windows and other acts of vandalism).

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Supports "Occupy Wall Street"

http://www.cpusa.org/

[Guest]

I'm growing very tired of being called a communist or nazi by some of you because I differ politically from some of you. I will ask that you please stop the stupidity of using those terms to describe people who disagree with you. No group is without fault,no group has all the answers to believe otherwise is pure nonsense.

[Guest]

the entire coverage of these so called "protestors" has to do with NOTHING more than isolated incidences in their entirety!!!!!
1000 people in Orlando and it was WESH' usual BREAKING NEWS coverage.
In other locations the numbers were in the hundreds, yet the media covered each one as thought they were paradigm shift consensus groups of many more times magnitude.

Grasping at straws. These groups are supposedly against big government....please point me to where this aspect of their protesting was covered?

The usual, even in this thread of making a banquet out of a ham sandwich.

While we patiently wait for the major issues to be addressed like the economy, unemployment, energy independence, wars in who knows how many countries as of this morning.....and oh by the way what about Obama's "urgent" speech to nation and putting congress and everybody else on notice about getting his jobs bill passed???

The current wave of attention to the protests is nothing more than a red herring to keep our eye off the ball and what is really wrong, starting with Obama and the current congress for complete lack of accomplishment in the areas or the REAL issues.

So obvious. So ridiculous!!

btk

[Guest]

I'm growing very tired of being called a communist or nazi by some of you because I differ politically from some of you. I will ask that you please stop the stupidity of using those terms to describe people who disagree with you. No group is without fault,no group has all the answers to believe otherwise is pure nonsense.

:shrug::shrug::shrug:

[Guest]

the entire coverage of these so called "protestors" has to do with NOTHING more than isolated incidences in their entirety!!!!!
1000 people in Orlando and it was WESH' usual BREAKING NEWS coverage.
In other locations the numbers were in the hundreds, yet the media covered each one as thought they were paradigm shift consensus groups of many more times magnitude.

Grasping at straws. These groups are supposedly against big government....please point me to where this aspect of their protesting was covered?

The usual, even in this thread of making a banquet out of a ham sandwich.

While we patiently wait for the major issues to be addressed like the economy, unemployment, energy independence, wars in who knows how many countries as of this morning.....and oh by the way what about Obama's "urgent" speech to nation and putting congress and everybody else on notice about getting his jobs bill passed???

The current wave of attention to the protests is nothing more than a red herring to keep our eye off the ball and what is really wrong, starting with Obama and the current congress for complete lack of accomplishment in the areas or the REAL issues.

So obvious. So ridiculous!!

btk

I thought they was against Wall Street and Big Business. Who in their right mind would hire these people?

[Guest]

Could someone please quote the post that said "liberals are nazis"...?

Did I miss this? Did it happen yet?

[Guest]

Glad you are in Ohio. You are needed there.:1rotfl:

[Guest]

:agree: The weather is perfect and the fall colors are awesome! It is a great day to live in Ohio! and it is always nice to be needed, thanks! :ho:

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You are very welcome.

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What about the Fox News poll that backfired on them to show about 70% of the respondents favor the Occupy Wall Street movement?

Was that a flawed Fox News poll? Why, that would be blasphemy!!

[Guest]

What about the Fox News poll that backfired on them to show about 70% of the respondents favor the Occupy Wall Street movement?

Was that a flawed Fox News poll? Why, that would be blasphemy!!

There is a massive network out there that can skew results. All this means is that the liberals are probably more organized online because most of the Conservatives are working and paying taxes.

[Guest]

Once again, I have to ask you, what the heck does "spew results" mean?:1rotfl:

Get out and enjoy your golf and do not get too many four putts.

[Guest]

Once again, I have to ask you, what the heck does "spew results" mean?:1rotfl:

Get out and enjoy your golf and do not get too many four putts.

That was supposed to be skew. The "P" and "K" are too close to each other on this little keyboard.:blahblahblah:

I cannot play tonight because my football team starts at 4:15. BYE.

[Guest]

That was supposed to be skew. The "P" and "K" are too close to each other on this little keyboard.:blahblahblah:

I cannot play tonight because my football team starts at 4:15. BYE.

GO BROWNS!:clap2:

[Guest]

GO BROWNS!:clap2:

My game has not started on TV yet because SF vs. Detroit just now finished. Man, I hate having the late game.

[Guest]

My game has not started on TV yet because SF vs. Detroit just now finished. Man, I hate having the late game.

Ha! One particularly defeated weekend last year, we watched our High School team lose on Friday nite, ND & Charlie Weiss took their usual beating, then Sunday...well you know what often happens with the Browns, they got smoked. Monday morning we are wondering why we put ourselves thru it! Nice weekend?
Hope you win!

[Guest]

Ha! One particularly defeated weekend last year, we watched our High School team lose on Friday nite, ND & Charlie Weiss took their usual beating, then Sunday...well you know what often happens with the Browns, they got smoked. Monday morning we are wondering why we put ourselves thru it! Nice weekend?
Hope you win!

Bummer. We are winning by 3 points at half-time.
We won in last minute