Stimulus Cost more Then Iraq War

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As President Obama prepares to tie a bow on U.S. combat operations in Iraq, Congressional Budget Office numbers show that the total cost of the eight-year war was less than the stimulus bill passed by the Democratic-led Congress in 2009.

"According to CBO numbers in its Budget and Economic Outlook published this month, the cost of Operation Iraqi Freedom was $709 billion for military and related activities, including training of Iraqi forces and diplomatic operations."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/30/cbo-years-iraq-war-cost-stimulus-act/#ixzz1bc0YqAfo

[Guest]

You certainly have a low value on American lives if you believe that. Did the 2009 stimulus bill cost the lives of 4,400+ Americans like the Iraq war did?

[Guest]

You certainly have a low value on American lives if you believe that. Did the 2009 stimulus bill cost the lives of 4,400+ Americans like the Iraq war did?

Please stay on topic, we are talking money here, changing the focus of the conversation a is an old Alinsky trick.

The fact of the matter that Obama wasted more money then the Stimulus. Money went down the sink whole.

And I do not need to be lectured by the likes of you about the value of human lives.

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Please stay on topic, we are talking money here, changing the focus of the conversation a is an old Alinsky trick.

The fact of the matter that Obama wasted more money then the Stimulus. Money went down the sink whole.

And I do not need to be lectured by the likes of you about the value of human lives.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

[Guest]

What are the "likes of me regarding the values of human lives"?

Did you forget that I served as a medic in Vietnam? I believe I have a very high value on human life.

I am not the one who called other humans names like Nazi scumbags and compared them to human waste.

And the same for your cheerleader.

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What are the "likes of me regarding the values of human lives"?

Did you forget that I served as a medic in Vietnam? I believe I have a very high value on human life.

I am not the one who called other humans names like Nazi scumbags and compared them to human waste.

And the same for your cheerleader.

You started this by saying I had a low regard for human life. To make such a statement is irresponsible at best. By the way I was a combat medic in VietNam. So what?

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what does one have to do with the other? The only thing I see is a very weak attemt to defend our involment in Iraq. Nonsense again.

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what does one have to do with the other? The only thing I see is a very weak attemt to defend our involment in Iraq. Nonsense again.

Either that or a weak attempt to call the stimulus a good thing and Obama wants to spend more of the same. Maybe he will justify the money not spent in Iraq as an excuse to throw more money down the sinkhole.

Everybody knows that the Stimulus did not benefit the private sector at all. It was a payoff for public sector votes. Biggest waste of money this country has ever spent. And now the village idiot of Kenya is getting us thrown out of Iraq which will mean that our troops may have died for a lot less then Bush negotiated. Shameful.

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You certainly have a low value on American lives if you believe that. Did the 2009 stimulus bill cost the lives of 4,400+ Americans like the Iraq war did?

Maybe this will clear up the confusion...This comment from a poster who defends the right to take the lives of MILLIONS of AMERICAN BABIES at the whim of their so-called mothers.

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Maybe this will clear up the confusion...This comment from a poster who defends the right to take the lives of MILLIONS of AMERICAN BABIES at the whim of their so-called mothers.

Also, the average military deaths during peace time was about the same average as in Iraq war.

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What an absolutely asinie thread this is. !!!!!! Absolutely asinie.....

What price do we put on the 4,800 (or whatever the final figure is) american lives lost? How many families have been destroyed? Maybe Faux News can tell us.

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What an absolutely asinie thread this is. !!!!!! Absolutely asinie.....

What price do we put on the 4,800 (or whatever the final figure is) american lives lost? How many families have been destroyed? Maybe Faux News can tell us.

What the heck does "asinie" mean?

Anyway the thread was about the actual costs of both programs in an attempt for "you people" who are always ragging on the "costs of the Iraq war" to see it in context to the costs of the monumental failure of the "Stimulus" which actually drained much more money from the American People.

Now that this has been pointed out to your dismay, you're attempting to change the conversation to "lives lost". You can talk about it if you must, but it has nothing to do with this thread.

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What the heck does "asinie" mean?

Anyway the thread was about the actual costs of both programs in an attempt for "you people" who are always ragging on the "costs of the Iraq war" to see it in context to the costs of the monumental failure of the "Stimulus" which actually drained much more money from the American People.

Now that this has been pointed out to your dismay, you're attempting to change the conversation to "lives lost". You can talk about it if you must, but it has nothing to do with this thread.

Not to diminish servicemen's worth during war or at peacetime, but this war has the least casualties per time spent then any war in history. If you divide the 4000+ casualties and divide by 9 you will see what is probably the average per year during peacetime figures.

But the point being made is that we had a plan in the Middle East and it is now being wasted by in incompetent moron in the White House. Much is being made about the price of war but little said about squandering our future down the cesspool with this scandalous spending by the democrats in the name of "stimulus."

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Not to diminish servicemen's worth during war or at peacetime, but this war has the least casualties per time spent then any war in history. If you divide the 4000+ casualties and divide by 9 you will see what is probably the average per year during peacetime figures.

But the point being made is that we had a plan in the Middle East and it is now being wasted by in incompetent moron in the White House. Much is being made about the price of war but little said about squandering our future down the cesspool with this scandalous spending by the democrats in the name of "stimulus."

Well said.

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1. in measuring the cost of both programs to leave out the dead and wounded is asinine.
2.To blame Obama for theU.S. being asked to leave Iraq is asinine.
3.To say the stimulis did not benefit the private sector is asinine.
4."Our troops may have died for a lot less than Bush negotiated" might be the most asinine statement to be posted ever.

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1. in measuring the cost of both programs to leave out the dead and wounded is asinine.
2.To blame Obama for theU.S. being asked to leave Iraq is asinine.
3.To say the stimulis did not benefit the private sector is asinine.
4."Our troops may have died for a lot less than Bush negotiated" might be the most asinine statement to be posted ever.

And this post of yours is.......................................imho

[Guest]

come on Rich,you can't be serious defending those statements.

[Guest]

1. in measuring the cost of both programs to leave out the dead and wounded is asinine.
2.To blame Obama for theU.S. being asked to leave Iraq is asinine.
3.To say the stimulis did not benefit the private sector is asinine.
4."Our troops may have died for a lot less than Bush negotiated" might be the most asinine statement to be posted ever.

come on Rich,you can't be serious defending those statements.

I'm not sure which statements you mean, I was referring to these statements of yours.

1. The thread is a discussion on money spent. How can you talk about human life in the same context. It's ridiculous. It's a topic for a different discussion.

2. It's under Obama's leadership that this has happened. The whole Middle East is rising up under his leadership because they only respect strength, and we are not showing this no matter how many drone attacks we hide behind.

3. The Stimulus was a total failure. It's gargantuan outlays have not been justified in the least. The country is worse off than before it and we are now saddled with it's monstrous debt. You might say we would have been even worse of without it and to that I would say "prove it". You can't do it.

4. I don't even understand the quote, so I can't comment on it. I don't think the thought translated well.

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1. in measuring the cost of both programs to leave out the dead and wounded is asinine.
2.To blame Obama for theU.S. being asked to leave Iraq is asinine.
3.To say the stimulis did not benefit the private sector is asinine.
4."Our troops may have died for a lot less than Bush negotiated" might be the most asinine statement to be posted ever.

I stand behind every statement and I resent you calling the names. If you cannot respond with a reasonable post, I suggest you do not respond at all.
Name calling is unproductive and does not add to the discussion, and the Admin frowns on it.

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TO be fair here, a large portion of the TARP funds have been repaid. Not all, but of the first $470B, about $345B has come back...