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Guest
10-28-2011, 01:49 PM
This country is going down. Everyone says do something or do nothing.We need to create jobs but you can't with all the regulations. Keep the illegals they are the only ones that will do some of the jobs. You know I'm tired of this,when I was 15 I worked with the migrants in the tomato fields for 1.00 an hour hoeing the weeds out of the the rows. I worked at a truck farm harvesting cabbage piching strawberries etc. This all a bunch of s--t, you want change then change the way young people think about work. My dad told me get your a-- out there and get a job. I cut 8 lawns at the age of 11 one of them was 3 acres and I got 3 dollars for that and I trimmed. I'm 63 now if I have to I'd do it again if I was hungry. I still work and probably will till I die. It's time to reeducate the young people get rid of the illegals and teach a new pride to the kids coming up. Also we have lost much of the hard good manufacturing, give them a tax break and bring it back. Where the hell is Reagan when you need him. Come on people lets get our **** together.

Guest
10-28-2011, 02:01 PM
DDoug, you know that will never work. Why we even have baseball games now where there is no loser and everybody wins. What a deal. I did not work on a truck farm, but have been known to top corn, buck hay bale and gather eggs. Anything to earn a few bucks until I was old enough to join the service.

Guest
10-28-2011, 02:02 PM
Boy, picking strawberries!! That brings back memories.
I got so sick the first day I picked it took me years before I would eat them. Love them now.
I picked peas, strawberries, worked and lumbermills and stacked hay for next to nothing per hour and was glad to get it.
The problem with no illegals or even migrant workers is we need them. It would be years before our children's children could be taught the hard work for nothing ethic.
I live in Texas and they are everywhere. If we don't have them or young people willing to work like they do then we need to know that everything we grow goes up in price.
With illegals it is hard for the unions to organize them so they work for less than our young would ever work for.
I know not all young are that way but most are, probably our fault because of the way our generation lived and taught them.
Good subject though.

Yes, we do need a Ronald Reagan

Guest
10-28-2011, 02:02 PM
the solutions to what is wrong with TODAY are very obvious and very simple. Since the solutions do not appeal to either politicians of the permissive pacifist, entitlement crowd, there will be no progress.

Can you imagine what the future holds for the young that follow us.....when one considers that the way it is TODAY, may well be the best it will ever be from here on in.

I am glad I grew and lived when tradition, value and respect were dominant in daily life. We sadly watch our values being deteriorated each and every day.

Bring back the majority rules and stop all this trying to please every minority group and nut job with a sign.

btk

Guest
10-28-2011, 02:47 PM
the solutions to what is wrong with TODAY are very obvious and very simple. Since the solutions do not appeal to either politicians of the permissive pacifist, entitlement crowd, there will be no progress.

Can you imagine what the future holds for the young that follow us.....when one considers that the way it is TODAY, may well be the best it will ever be from here on in.

I am glad I grew and lived when tradition, value and respect were dominant in daily life. We sadly watch our values being deteriorated each and every day.

Bring back the majority rules and stop all this trying to please every minority group and nut job with a sign.

btk

btk: I agree...but every once in awhile I run across a young person with drive and incentive good moral and ethical values and I get a glimmer of hope. I then pray that ther are more like him

Guest
10-28-2011, 09:33 PM
btk: I agree...but every once in awhile I run across a young person with drive and incentive good moral and ethical values and I get a glimmer of hope. I then pray that ther are more like him

I know quite alot of them Rubicon. I pray for them as often as I can...with the direction this administration is taking this country, and the lack of work ethic that most of their generation has, they need all the prays they can get.

Guest
10-29-2011, 06:18 AM
Creating Jobs, fat chance that will happen unless we change regulations and bring industry back to the states, stop job sourcing outside of the USA. Yes we will pay more for commodities. Reinstate the CCC and WPA, requiring mandatory employment of welfare recipients that are physically capable of working.

Guest
10-29-2011, 08:29 AM
Just kind of wondering aloud here. How many of you conservatives shop at Wal-Mart on a regular basis or even just sometime shop at Wal-Mart?

As you realize, just about all Wal-Mart merchandise is manufactured in China.

How many of you conservatives constantly look at the country of origin of any products you buy and will buy only American made?

Do you own a car that is made with foreign components or assembled in another country? That list is always posted on the car window when it is on the dealer's lot.

This is just to say - it is easier to talk the talk than to walk the walk.

As for our young people - some may look downright scary and act like shiftless bums - but remember the hippies of the 1970's. They cut their hair, took a bath, and are now CEO's. Even some of us might have been like that and now we are happily retired Villagers.

Guest
10-29-2011, 08:55 AM
as long as there is no growth in new manufacturing here in the USA the employment problems will not go away.
And as long as the trend to outsource (out of USA) there will be fewer jobs.

I agree to not tar all the young but the disease we have is the degree of permissiveness we have allowed to creep into our society.

I think our government is more concerned about the impact on other countries if they do something about reducing outsourcing....than they are with the slippery job slope, downward here in the USA.

How about a new industrial revolution driven by the core objective of energy independence? The new manufacturing and new jobs contained in this one objective alone could potentially put us back on the right path. But if we do that we might offend all the foreign oil providers....and I do personally believe that is the bigger issue with our government....DO NOT OFFEND THE FOREIGN PROVIDERS to the USA.

The government obviously has more tolerance to withstand the deteriorating unemployment plight in the USA than the upsetting of the foreigners.

The deterioration of America is directly connected to the outsourcing of manufacturing. There will be no recovery without new manufacturing. Manufacturing was the life sustaining element for middle America.

The problem has been evident for the last 40 years.

Until the above changes there will be more people with their hand out and fewer paying taxes.

btk

Guest
10-29-2011, 10:24 AM
as long as there is no growth in new manufacturing here in the USA the employment problems will not go away.
And as long as the trend to outsource (out of USA) there will be fewer jobs.

I agree to not tar all the young but the disease we have is the degree of permissiveness we have allowed to creep into our society.

I think our government is more concerned about the impact on other countries if they do something about reducing outsourcing....than they are with the slippery job slope, downward here in the USA.

How about a new industrial revolution driven by the core objective of energy independence? The new manufacturing and new jobs contained in this one objective alone could potentially put us back on the right path. But if we do that we might offend all the foreign oil providers....and I do personally believe that is the bigger issue with our government....DO NOT OFFEND THE FOREIGN PROVIDERS to the USA.

The government obviously has more tolerance to withstand the deteriorating unemployment plight in the USA than the upsetting of the foreigners.

The deterioration of America is directly connected to the outsourcing of manufacturing. There will be no recovery without new manufacturing. Manufacturing was the life sustaining element for middle America.

The problem has been evident for the last 40 years.

Until the above changes there will be more people with their hand out and fewer paying taxes.

btk


TOTALLY AGREE...hence the need to pray for that generation and their children and grandchildren.

Guest
10-29-2011, 02:43 PM
Here's a radical thought..

Republicans ought to be FOR unions - in China.

If China suddenly had to pay 'living wages', their exports would be far more expensive, making our goods far more competitive..

...just a random thought I had. Move along - nothing to see here :)

Guest
10-29-2011, 03:46 PM
Here's a radical thought..

Republicans ought to be FOR unions - in China.

If China suddenly had to pay 'living wages', their exports would be far more expensive, making our goods far more competitive..

...just a random thought I had. Move along - nothing to see here :)

Union in China. Surely you jest.

Guest
10-31-2011, 05:55 AM
It was a passing thought I had that kind of made me laugh a bit. So, yeah, there's was a lot of tongue-in-cheek jest there. No chance of that stuff happening anytime soon. Even when it was "cheap imports from Japan", it took a long time for Japanese wages to rise - the same with South Korea 10-15 years later.