High Tech Lynching...

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Makes one wonder who the real racists are...
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/04/cain_web_ad_high_tech_lynching.html

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There's been a media blitz against Herman Cain and nobody know what it's really about. He did what? To who? with what proof?

Guilty until proven innocent? I guess if you have the cajones to dare to be a black conservative, you've got to expect this. The liberal establishment must put this black man in his place if he's going to be so uppity.

Ted Kennedy can abandon a girl to die a horrible death in his sinking car, and he's a hero.

Bill Clinton can be accused of sexual battery and even rape, and it's no big deal.

But, the unsubstantiated claim of "inappropriate behavior" against a black conservative; well that calls for a "high tech" lynching.

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Here, we see it stated so well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egTyaIAaqz8

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You all know very well if the shoe was on the other foot and President Obama had been accused of sexual harrasment that all of you uberconservatives would be up in arms demanding impeachment before any real shred of evidence had been produced. Race has nothing to do with your yelps - it is because it is happening to one of your own party.

Just a little more of sauce for the gander.

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Clarence Thomas was and still is a jerk. Just ask Anita Hill.

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ha ha ha.... BOO HOO HOO . . . :sing:

Katz and Ritchie... I find it incredibly humorous that you pull out the race card so quickly when "your" candidate is scrutinized.

Of course, you know that there's a very high likelihood that the allegations are factual.

You should go back and read some of your own posts, where you accuse liberals of doing exactly the same thing...

Just saying . . .

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ha ha ha.... BOO HOO HOO . . . :sing:

Katz and Ritchie... I find it incredibly humorous that you pull out the race card so quickly when "your" candidate is scrutinized.

Of course, you know that there's a very high likelihood that the allegations are factual.

You should go back and read some of your own posts, where you accuse liberals of doing exactly the same thing...

Just saying . . .

Exactly....

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ha ha ha.... BOO HOO HOO . . . :sing:

Katz and Ritchie... I find it incredibly humorous that you pull out the race card so quickly when "your" candidate is scrutinized.

Of course, you know that there's a very high likelihood that the allegations are factual.

You should go back and read some of your own posts, where you accuse liberals of doing exactly the same thing...

Just saying . . .

The difference being that it is me and Katz. We're just 2 people noticing the bias of the liberal media.

(You really don't realize that my pointing out the race of Herman Cain is only to mock you liberals who point out Obama's race at ever opportunity?. Look up the definition of the word "mock")

The entire liberal establishment media against one black conservative with allegations that no one knows about. Hundreds of stories published about it in just a few number of days.

On the other hand you have Katz and I on this inconsequential political forum buried in the TOTV open forum, that you have to subscribe to in order to read.

OH!; it's exactly the same thing.

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Karl Marx advocated "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

Obama advocates "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

Socialism advocates "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

Communism advocates "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

So tell me, how do the liberals on this board and in this thread feel about "redistribution of wealth and class warfare?"

Does the loyal opposition draw a "bright line" somewhere on the path to the left and short of totalitarian dictatorship? If so, where?

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The difference being that it is me and Katz. We're just 2 people noticing the bias of the liberal media.

(You really don't realize that my pointing out the race of Herman Cain is only to mock you liberals who point out Obama's race at ever opportunity?. Look up the definition of the word "mock")

The entire liberal establishment media against one black conservative with allegations that no one knows about. Hundreds of stories published about it in just a few number of days.

On the other hand you have Katz and I on this inconsequential political forum buried in the TOTV open forum, that you have to subscribe to in order to read.

OH!; it's exactly the same thing.


You're joking, right???? I don't believe your post has anything to do with "mocking" anyone.... You said what you thought...

it is what it is....

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It's really strange: Those of us on the right were said to be racists for being against Obama. Furthermore, the left called the Tea Party a racist group. But now the left is dogging Herman Cain and they expect to be immune from being called racists.

I don't mean to be unfair; am I missing something?

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ha ha ha.... BOO HOO HOO . . . :sing:

Katz and Ritchie... I find it incredibly humorous that you pull out the race card so quickly when "your" candidate is scrutinized.

Of course, you know that there's a very high likelihood that the allegations are factual.

You should go back and read some of your own posts, where you accuse liberals of doing exactly the same thing...

Just saying . . .

The point is not that the attacks on Herman Cain are "racism" as in prejudice or outright attack against him because of race or skin color.

It's "racism" in the form of demanding that all prominent/promising black candidates submit to the Plantation of Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright, and SHEILA JACKSON LEE...(OMG....could anyone be any more racist than she????)

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It's really strange: Those of us on the right were said to be racists for being against Obama. Furthermore, they called the Tea Party a racist group. But now the left is dogging Herman Cain and they expect to be immune from being called racists.

I don't mean to be unfair; am I missing something?


No, you an't missing anything. Don't ya know that only republicans are racists? There are no democrats racists, only hipocrits.

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I am interested in the Herman Cain accusations not for any political reason, but just out of a sense of fairness. Regardless of what situation the current accusations would arise in, whether it was a presidential campaign or just a friend of mine who was being talked about in this way, I would feel the same way.

I am not an expert in sexual harrassment law, but it deals with a very wide range of behavior, and I feel that without knowing any specific facts about what Mr. Cain was even accused to have done, it is wrong to speculate or to draw any inference that would reflect on his ability to be president (or on his character in any other setting). I also think that the fact that a settlement was made by the National Restaurant Association is totally irrelevant, since legal claims of many kinds are often settled, both those with merit and those without merit.

For example, gender discrimination is one area of sexual harrassment/discrimination. It may be conduct that is completely non-sexual but that is perceived as being directed at someone because of their sex. Examples of discriminatory comments and behaviors may include something as innocent in intention as an employer asking whether an employee is married or plans on having children. (Such conversation may in fact be merely motivated as friendliness in the work place, but yet could potentially still give rise to a sex discrimination claim). As this area of law has evolved over the last several decades, it leaves a wide range of conduct open to interpretation; conduct that may be intended as nothing more than genuine friendliness; and has lead to a mine field for persons in authority in any employment setting. What people may intend as genuine kidding (and yes, perhaps in a moment of mental lapse - which one of us has never had this happen?), or purely innocuous conduct in the intention of simply getting to know someone better, may now be considered sexual harrassment under the law, simply because regardless of the speaker/acter's intention, it may be perceived (even if incorrectly) as sexual discrimination or harrassment by the employee to whom the conduct is directed. I'm not suggesting that the law should not be this way, but I'm simply saying that in my opinion, some of this conduct, particularly conduct that occurred in years past before there was so much emphasis on this area of law in the workplace, would not, in my mind, reflect on the ability or fitness of someone to be president or to hold any other position.

This has lead to alot of sensitivity training, particularly in the past decade, that probably was not as common in the 1990s, when Mr. Cain is accused of the inappropriate conduct. Today, managers and leaders in companies are much more knowledgable of conduct to avoid than they were in the past.

Mr. Cain's race, to me, has nothing to do with the unfairness of the innuendo that has been made of all of this. I would think it was equally unfair regardless of the race of the candidate involved, with no more facts than are known.

Whatever he is accused of having done (which he denies that he even did) might in fact be any where from serious sexual advances to completely innocently-intended nonsexual statements; or anything between these two extremes. Without knowing anything about the specific conduct, I think it is very wrong to judge him whatsoever about any of this. Otherwise, any person, man or woman, could be made to look 'bad' for something that they have said or done (or are accused to have said or done) that a fair-minded person, knowing the actual facts, would in no way hold against them or feel reflected on their character or ability to lead.

Just as people are presumed innocent under our justice system, I think it is wrong to draw any inference at all against Mr. Cain merely because accusations of some form of sexual discrimination or harrassment were made against him over a decade ago; which is all that we know, at least for now. Without any other information than that, to me it is a "so what?"

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You're joking, right???? I don't believe your post has anything to do with "mocking" anyone.... You said what you thought...

it is what it is....

Oh gee; now I'm hurt. Everything you say has such a big impact on me I don't know what I'll do now. You don't believe me? Oh woe!!

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The point is not that the attacks on Herman Cain are "racism" as in prejudice or outright attack against him because of race or skin color.

It's "racism" in the form of demanding that all prominent/promising black candidates submit to the Plantation of Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright, and SHEILA JACKSON LEE...(OMG....could anyone be any more racist than she????)

EXACTLY...Doubt the left will ever get tho...:sad:
Any of you read the book by Star Parker-"Uncle Sam's Plantation"?
RichieLion you are so correct with your tongue in cheek comments...how dare this black man even think he needs to try escape the benevolent, compassionate, teat of the Democratic party!

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I really didn't know anything about Star Parker before you introduced me to her, and I thank you for that. I started reading some of her opinion pieces online, and now I know why the major media doesn't reference this learned black conservative woman. She upsets the apple cart. She exposes their duplicity, especially where it concerns others of her ethnicity, with brilliant analysis and insight.

Anyone else who wants to hear what Ms. Parker has to say can find many of her columns at this link:--------------- http://townhall.com/columnists/starparker/

I knew you would get what I was doing. Our political adversaries are much too angry to get "me". Thank you.

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Experts claim that one manner in which you can assess such charges are not only whether payment was made but by the fact if the amoint was 5 figures or six figures. At 5 figures its not likely that the plaintiff will prevail but let's avoid the risk and the unwanted attention. Whereas 6 figures means there a 50/505 chance.

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Ann Coulter released a great column on Nov. 2nd that was just published in the Daily Sun today in it's usual place on the Editorial Page.

She gives context to the attacks on Herman Cain coupled with the Democrats dishonesty about their relationships with Black America in view of their racially tinged attacks, and stereotypical statements about blacks, when the target of their dislike is a black conservative.

I know our liberal posters will ignore her thesis and instead attack Ms. Coulter on an extremely personal level if they comment at all, but for those of you who haven't read this, you might find your ideas and feelings about this subject put into context.

As usual, she headlines her piece with a bit of "what did she just say?!" in order to get you to read it. That's her sense of humor, like it or not.

I actually would enjoy a thoughtful rebuttal I think, but I don't think it's forthcoming.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47287

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As far as this Cain stuff goes stop the whining it goes with the territory in this day and age. It is the major reason we no longer get the best and the brightest to run for office.

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Karl Marx advocated "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

Obama advocates "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

Socialism advocates "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

Communism advocates "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

So tell me, how do the liberals on this board and in this thread feel about "redistribution of wealth and class warfare?"

Does the loyal opposition draw a "bright line" somewhere on the path to the left and short of totalitarian dictatorship? If so, where?

One question I would ask Democrats back when I was a Republican - back inn the tax-and-spend heydays was "How much is enough".

I wanted to be able to walk up to Ted Kennedy and say "At what tax rate would you finally say 'ok' and stop pressing for more taxes? At what point would you say 'stick a fork in it - it's done.'?"

I never got an answer.

One thing I'll say for Herman Cain - he appears to have answered my question in reverse - that is, "At what point yould you say taxes are low enough?"

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redistribution of wealth and class warfare are great excuses for maintaining the current status. Unfortunately redistribution and class warfare have been part of our economic landscape since we became a country. To compare those of us that want to rescind the Bush tax cuts and make corporations pay at least some taxes and call us socialists or communists is stupid,lame and totally uncalled for. The middle class the backbone of America is losing ground and not to the poor but to the rich. Whats crazier? People fighting Wall St because we are becoming more crippled economically day by day or one man having a net worth of a billion dollars because he manipulated our market and got away with it.

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redistribution of wealth and class warfare are great excuses for maintaining the current status. Unfortunately redistribution and class warfare have been part of our economic landscape since we became a country. To compare those of us that want to rescind the Bush tax cuts and make corporations pay at least some taxes and call us socialists or communists is stupid,lame and totally uncalled for. The middle class the backbone of America is losing ground and not to the poor but to the rich. Whats crazier? People fighting Wall St because we are becoming more crippled economically day by day or one man having a net worth of a billion dollars because he manipulated our market and got away with it.

"Redistribution of wealth and class warfare have been part of our economic landscape since we became a country"? What part of the founding of our free nation are you talking about? This is blatant revisionism, and patently false.

You're are operating more on your emotions than your intellect here with your raging against corporations. The politicians are the corruption you should be raging against. You support the very people who are selling you out.

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Actually it is our archaic form of public "education" that is ruining this country. Our school systems were designed to put people to work in factories for 150 years. The status quo has not changed while the structure of the work force has. We recruit people from distant lands to fill high tech jobs. We should get rid of the department of education immediately.

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I agree with closing down the Dept of Education. Your reasons are good, and add to them the fact that the basics aren't taught.

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The basics are taught.

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Getting back to the topic of the thread--the bloodthirsty tactics of Plantation Democrats who will go to any length to destroy a black politician who flees his owners on the Democrat Plantation and thinks for himself as a conservative--this statement by Clarence Thomas fully applies to Herman Cain now.

The only word that doesn't apply is "U.S. Senate", which should be replaced with "Obama campaign minions".

"This is a circus. It is a national disgrace. And from my standpoint, as a black American, as far as I am concerned, it is a high-tech lynching for uppity-blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas, and it is a message that, unless you kow-tow to an old order, this is what will happen to you, you will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S. Senate, rather than hung from a tree."

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His latest accuser, has to read her own story at the press conference. An experience so unforgettable, that she can't just tell it? Not sure which is worse...her reading skills or her acting skills. It would be comedic if not so heinous.

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His latest accuser, has to read her own story at the press conference. An experience so unforgettable, that she can't just tell it? Not sure which is worse...her reading skills or her acting skills. It would be comedic if not so heinous.

Follow the money. Neither the accuser, Bialek, nor Allred is making such appearances for free.

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They're playing to stereotypical "fears" of a black man accosting a white women. All there is is accusation, and we all know that sometimes that can be enough.

I don't even think this is the Democrats. I believe this is coming from the Republican establishment that wants to eliminate Cain from consideration and shove Romney down our throats, because Romney won't upset the apple cart. He won't challenge the status quo. They did this to us with McCain and it's happening again. We just get more of the same old song and dance b.s. if we allow ourselves to be scammed again.

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The basics are taught.

I beg to differ. Basic history and math are under taught.

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They're playing to stereotypical "fears" of a black man accosting a white women. All there is is accusation, and we all know that sometimes that can be enough.

I don't even think this is the Democrats. I believe this is coming from the Republican establishment that wants to eliminate Cain from consideration and shove Romney down our throats, because Romney won't upset the apple cart. He won't challenge the status quo. They did this to us with McCain and it's happening again. We just get more of the same old song and dance b.s. if we allow ourselves to be scammed again.

You could be on to something there. We will not stand for another McCain! Voting for him was just picking the one you wanted the least. We have to have a totally different mindset this time around. Cain is certainly my choice, but I know alot of people who cast their vote for Ron Paul last election. Maybe Paul's time has finally come...

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To compare those of us that want to rescind the Bush tax cuts and make corporations pay at least some taxes and call us socialists or communists is stupid,lame and totally uncalled for. .

What are you talking about? Why have you deliberately revised or misinterpreted what was stated and asked? Why would you resort to name calling predicated on your misrepresentation of facts? No one was called a "socialist" or "communist" as you purport. The only thing I can think of is that you are devoid or incapable of a legitimate rebuttal. This is what what was said:


Karl Marx advocated "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

Obama advocates "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

Socialism advocates "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

Communism advocates "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

So tell me, how do the liberals on this board and in this thread feel about "redistribution of wealth and class warfare?"

Does the loyal opposition draw a "bright line" somewhere on the path to the left and short of totalitarian dictatorship? If so, where?


The question qualified those with different opinions as "loyal opposition" regardless of your political ideology. The question also posed an opportunity to describe a "bright line" that could be defined as far enough to the left by the loyal opposition. Your bombastic name calling and contrived revision of the question to suit your angry response is what is uncalled for. It stifles debate that encourages understanding.

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The basics are taught.

Wayne, I have to differ. Some 70% of our children need remedial math to catch up to college entrance standards, 30-40% remedial English, Knowledge of American History is abysmal, computer literacy is marginal at best.

We have not eliminated the policy of 'social' promotion and we continue to waste precious time on various politically correct courses. We dilute the teacher's time by 'mainstreaming' children who cannot do the work required to keep up. Heavy emphasis is put to the slow learners, a little less on the gifted and the 80% of the kids in the middle are largely ignored.

A complete overhaul of our schools is needed starting with the elimination of tenure and academic freedom. These ideas had validity in the Middle Ages when they were first advanced but now serve to protect the incompetent, the lazy and those with their own agendas.

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Wayne, I have to differ. Some 70% of our children need remedial math to catch up to college entrance standards, 30-40% remedial English, Knowledge of American History is abysmal, computer literacy is marginal at best.

We have not eliminated the policy of 'social' promotion and we continue to waste precious time on various politically correct courses. We dilute the teacher's time by 'mainstreaming' children who cannot do the work required to keep up. Heavy emphasis is put to the slow learners, a little less on the gifted and the 80% of the kids in the middle are largely ignored.

A complete overhaul of our schools is needed starting with the elimination of tenure and academic freedom. These ideas had validity in the Middle Ages when they were first advanced but now serve to protect the incompetent, the lazy and those with their own agendas.

BBQ man you are spot on 30% of Journalist students at Syracuse during the 1980's had to take remedial English. We continue to raise one trophy generation after another. No matter the effort or result everyoine gets a trophy.

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Wayne, I have to differ. Some 70% of our children need remedial math to catch up to college entrance standards, 30-40% remedial English, Knowledge of American History is abysmal, computer literacy is marginal at best.

We have not eliminated the policy of 'social' promotion and we continue to waste precious time on various politically correct courses. We dilute the teacher's time by 'mainstreaming' children who cannot do the work required to keep up. Heavy emphasis is put to the slow learners, a little less on the gifted and the 80% of the kids in the middle are largely ignored.

A complete overhaul of our schools is needed starting with the elimination of tenure and academic freedom. These ideas had validity in the Middle Ages when they were first advanced but now serve to protect the incompetent, the lazy and those with their own agendas.

But they have better self-esteem. And now they are "occupying".

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BBQ man you are spot on 30% of Journalist students at Syracuse during the 1980's had to take remedial English. We continue to raise one trophy generation after another. No matter the effort or result everyoine gets a trophy.

Right on!!! I read statistics that a high school graduate back in the early 60's is equivalent to a 3rd year college person today, academically.

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:a20::a20::a20:But they have better self-esteem. And now they are "occupying".