The Villages Drinking Water?

[LB]

We are new on the Historic side, and wonder if the water is good to drink or must we purify or drink bottled water? We would appreciate your thoughts.LB

[Loveithere]

We are spoiled well water people from up north and we do not care for the water here. We purchase 5 gallon jugs of water from the grocery store for coffee and the dog. (also ice cubes)

[aln]

We're from Milwaukee WI (Lake Michigan water).
Personally can't tell the difference other than the temperature.

If we cool the water here it's as good as MKE.

[John_W]

If you have a new telephone listing you would of already gotten at least a dozen calls from people trying to sell you water purification systems. In fact I even got two more this week and we've been here since July.

There are plenty of people willing to tell you how terrible the water is. My favorite is when they say they are calling from Home Depot with a 'Welcome Kit' which includes a $25 gift certificate which they would love to present to me in person. Of course, while visiting they would gladly perform a water evaluation test free of charge. My neighbor fell for one of the calls and now has a $3100 system in his garage which puts out a little stream of water from a special tap on the side of his sink.

You should do a search on this site about drinking water, this topic comes up every month. Personally I don't mind the water for showers, coffee or cooking but we drink bottled water when thirsty.

[Bryan]

Water is our area is tested annually and a written report sent to all homowners. Not sure when the next test will be. Bottom line - the water is safe - very safe. Yes, it has a high mineral content, as does almost all Florida water. Yes, it has a high sulfer content, as does a lot of Florida water. You may not like that. You may feel that a good use of your hard earned retirement money is a water purification or water softner system for you home. Go for it, if that is what you want. Just do not be "scared" into an expensive purchase of some water purification system because some scam artist "tested" your water and showed you a bunch of "sludge" in a test tube following the test. Our water is SAFE - maybe not exactly to your liking but perfectly safe. As an aside, should you decide to get a water purification system for your home, get several estimates. You wil be amazed and astounded at the variation in prices.

[LB]

Thanks to all for your suggestions. I will search previous posts, but have decided that we will just drink it. Probably better than bottled water. Best regards LB

[jojo]

The filtration in the refrigerator works for me for drinking water.

[getdul981]

The main problem I have with the water is the chlorine taste. The GE refrigerator we had before removed this. The Whirlpool we have now doesn't. I'm thinking we need a different filter on it. Has anyone run into this?

[DENNIS G]

We are new on the Historic side, and wonder if the water is good to drink or must we purify or drink bottled water? We would appreciate your thoughts.LB

We tried Culligan for a while, but the whole house filter was
needing changed every 30-40 days at $45.00 each. I took the system out, went to Lowes and got a Whirlpool ($337.00 but cheaper now) wholehouse filter and installed it. Took about an hour to put it in. It cleans and flushes itself every 14 days. It works great, and we don't need a softner. Have had it for over 3 years. Can't tell the difference of bottled water.

[CarGuys]

We tried Culligan for a while, but the whole house filter was
needing changed every 30-40 days at $45.00 each. I took the system out, went to Lowes and got a Whirlpool ($337.00 but cheaper now) wholehouse filter and installed it. Took about an hour to put it in. It cleans and flushes itself every 14 days. It works great, and we don't need a softner. Have had it for over 3 years. Can't tell the difference of bottled water.

My question is where does it put the backflush waste water? I see no drain being installed in my new homes garage.

[thekeithfan]

The water is filtered and treated and tested! This IS America! I think that the Public Utility that delivers water to our community of 80,000 is confident you can drink it!!! We too are from New England and had a well. That well had metals in it radon and sediment. The water you should have been concerned about is "up north".:a20:

[BogeyBoy]

We used the filtered water from the refrigerator and also have a Brita pitcher.

Have cut back on using case after case of bottled water by using these two methods and notice no difference.

When cooking we use the water straight from the tap.

[billethkid]

the keithfan comment above puts the period at the end of the sentence.

Any and everything else is only a preference.

I don't use/waste my discriminating capability on things that in the end have no real significance....that's me!

btk

[Bill-n-Brillo]

My question is where does it put the backflush waste water? I see no drain being installed in my new homes garage.

Herv, I've seen drain lines for water softeners in TV going out through the block foundation or garage sidewall to the driveway or into the landscaping. Maybe check with your water softener installer (if you're hiring the job out) to see what their suggestions would be. Perhaps you can finagle a way to get an adequate drain pipe of some sort laid under the sod and any sidewalk that will lead out towards the street.

There's really no perfect solution unless you can get TV to install a floor drain in your garage close to where the softener will be located. Unfortunately, it's probably too late for that if the foundation work and slab are already completed.

Bill :)

[CarGuys]

The water is filtered and treated and tested! This IS America! I think that the Public Utility that delivers water to our community of 80,000 is confident you can drink it!!! We too are from New England and had a well. That well had metals in it radon and sediment. The water you should have been concerned about is "up north".:a20:

The water we had in our CYV on three visits turned my wifes hair orange and my skin dried out like an alligator. The white scale on the shower head and chrome shower doors was not very attractive. Ahhh when you can't get dawn to suds something is wrong.

I have heard that all over the villages the water is different. It is safe to drink absolutely, However if you enjoy swallowing half a glass of bleach go for it. They have to kill those cooties from those underground wells somehow!

IMHO I will have our home water tested by a independant lab and treated for deposits and chlorine. Just had our Public safe City water here in Cortland tested. 500 grains hard and enough Chlorine to kill a cow!

[CarGuys]

There's really no perfect solution unless you can get TV to install a floor drain in your garage close to where the softener will be located. Unfortunately, it's probably too late for that if the foundation work and slab are already completed.

Bill :)[/QUOTE]

I like the idea of sending it out to water the lawn.

[JimPete]

There's really no perfect solution unless you can get TV to install a floor drain in your garage close to where the softener will be located. Unfortunately, it's probably too late for that if the foundation work and slab are already completed.

Bill :)


Well, not to late. Just very expensive.

[Bogie Shooter]

There's really no perfect solution unless you can get TV to install a floor drain in your garage close to where the softener will be located. Unfortunately, it's probably too late for that if the foundation work and slab are already completed.

Bill :)

I like the idea of sending it out to water the lawn.[/QUOTE]

Caution: The backflush water from a water softner is full of salt.

[Lynn222]

I live in Buttonwood and I found the water to be terrible. I purchased a water softner (and yes you can talk them down on the price). (They wanted 2,500 and I offered 1,600 and they took it!) The draw back is that I have to add salt every month or so. The company wanted to sell me their expensive salt but I found it much cheaper @ Sam's Club. Hope this helps.

[CarGuys]

I like the idea of sending it out to water the lawn.

Caution: The backflush water from a water softner is full of salt.[/QUOTE]

OPPS that would not be good for plants!. I have a garage sink being installed will see about having it discharge to that drain.

Thanks

[DENNIS G]

My question is where does it put the backflush waste water? I see no drain being installed in my new homes garage.

I used the drain that Culligan had put in. It is a small line and could be tun under the corner of the garage door.
there isn't any salt so don't have to worry about plants. Some plants need salt tho.

[CarGuys]

I used the drain that Culligan had put in. It is a small line and could be tun under the corner of the garage door.
there isn't any salt so don't have to worry about plants. Some plants need salt tho.

Anyone use Osmosis or a Alternative to Salt? With good results. Doc want me off salt.

[Doodlegirl]

originates from. I really would like to look at the inspection and treatment
facilities report. Our water has a terrible odor, even with a Pur filter, and
it tastes like a combination of chlorine and brackish water. My dogs won't
drink it!!! Buying bottled water is getting expensive. When here for the
Lifestyle Preview, the water at the hotel in LSL was fine.

[drdodge]

the backwash goes tru the wall and out to the street. You can buy a good water system from Home Depot for around 500 dollars , why these people pay a large sum of money is kind of crazy. They do not do any homework at all
drd

[bargee]

We live in Santiago and use a Pur filter on the kitchen tap and an inline filter on the icemaker supply.That seems to take away taste problems.As far as scale problems on the shower heads in 11 years I have only had to soak the heads in vinegar one time.

[mrfixit]

originates from. I really would like to look at the inspection and treatment
facilities report. Our water has a terrible odor, even with a Pur filter, and
it TASTES LIKE A COMBINATION OF CHLORINE AND BRACKISH WATER. My DOGS WONT DRINK IT.!!! Buying bottled water is getting expensive. When here for the
Lifestyle Preview, the water at the hotel in LSL was fine.


......We are South of CR 466 and East of Morse......
......Was told North Sumter Utilities is the water provider here.....

....almost every weekend....from about FRIDAY 3pm-ish till SATURDAY NIGHT the water smells very scary... like a combination of some sort of harsh chemicals MIXED with CHLORINE..........SO...sure don't drink the water anymore.......we have no softener or any other device that could have caused the chemicals to enter the water supply. Longing for the good old DEEP WELL water we had up in the north.....

[Bubbalarry]

If you have a new telephone listing you would of already gotten at least a dozen calls from people trying to sell you water purification systems. In fact I even got two more this week and we've been here since July.

There are plenty of people willing to tell you how terrible the water is. My favorite is when they say they are calling from Home Depot with a 'Welcome Kit' which includes a $25 gift certificate which they would love to present to me in person. Of course, while visiting they would gladly perform a water evaluation test free of charge. My neighbor fell for one of the calls and now has a $3100 system in his garage which puts out a little stream of water from a special tap on the side of his sink.

You should do a search on this site about drinking water, this topic comes up every month. Personally I don't mind the water for showers, coffee or cooking but we drink bottled water when thirsty.

after 4 years we decided on a purification/water softener and paid last week with installation $ 2200.00

it clearly dumped out the chlorine from the water along with the smell.

The salesman was trying to be slick with the payment options of stating once out the door the price goes up. BS.

In addition our home/courtyard villa never had a water shutoff in side the house. Why who knows, not even TV can answer for it as no house in our community has it. We have to go outside to the main box in the ground to shutoff.

[Bogie Shooter]

Wow $2200, whats the name of the company???

[Doodlegirl]

I am not sure after trying to read water reports that our water in our area is
actually a public utility...it seems to be privately held by the Morse family, I could be wrong and have been, but I couldn't find any reports from it on the internet. Am wondering what would happen if, IF, I had the water tested and it turned out not to be healthy...would I be responsible for making it so.
Seriously, it is awful at my house. Company comig shortly and I am mortified to offer a glass of water unless I buy bottled. Come out of the shower smelling like a three day old egg. It's giving new meaning to the term,
toilet water! At least I'm not alone.

[mrfixit]

I am not sure after trying to read water reports that our water in our area is
actually a public utility...it seems to be privately held by the Morse family, I could be wrong and have been, but I couldn't find any reports from it on the internet. Am wondering what would happen if, IF, I had the water tested and it turned out not to be healthy...would I be responsible for making it so.
Seriously, it is awful at my house. Company comig shortly and I am mortified to offer a glass of water unless I buy bottled. Come out of the shower smelling like a three day old egg. It's giving new meaning to the term,
toilet water! At least I'm not alone.

...The reports are published...YUP... North Sumter has some "stuff" in the water....just like all water suppliers in Fl.

...My take on it.....The capacity of "the stink removal" is possibly less than could be desired for the volume of water used "on-the-weekends". (because of influx of friends,family and part-timers).

...Perhaps additional treatment "products" are added to speed-up "the stink removal". We see the "stink" tanks in ALL the yards where people draw their own "private" well water. By experience, (before moving to Villages) learned to have TWO "stink tanks" at our other place in Fl.

[Bogie Shooter]

...The reports are published...YUP... North Sumter has some "stuff" in the water....just like all water suppliers in Fl.

...My take on it.....The capacity of "the stink removal" is possibly less than could be desired for the volume of water used "on-the-weekends". (because of influx of friends,family and part-timers).

...Perhaps additional treatment "products" are added to speed-up "the stink removal". We see the "stink" tanks in ALL the yards where people draw their own "private" well water. By experience, (before moving to Villages) learned to have TWO "stink tanks" at our other place in Fl.

What does this mean "in ALL the yards"? Where are there private wells in TV???

[Bill-n-Brillo]

.....I have a garage sink being installed will see about having it discharge to that drain. .....

You should be good to go for running the water softener drain to the sink. Check local plumbing codes - will need to have an "air gap" (can check that out via Google) for that drain line.

Bill :)

[ladydoc]

The water here tastes awful! I found a site that rates water quality from 0-10 and the water here was rated at 2.something. We recently put in a water softener that also is a whole house water FILTER! All problems solved. The water tastes great, no white residue, no orange crud in the shower, my hair is soft again! It is from Sears...and it is wonderful!

[RichieLion]

I've lived here for 2 1/2 years and find there's not much wrong with the water. Just like up north I use a filtered pitcher to make coffee and to have a cold glass of water. The water is fine for bathing and cleaning and it's not the worst tasting water I've had out of a tap. Everywhere I've been the water has tasted a little different.

Unless everyone else is getting an inferior water to mine, I don't get it. I just figure these people trying to sell me a whole house system have a good scam going here.

[Taj44]

It seems to vary from Village to Village. We lived in Ashland, and I found the water to be not very good. We have friends in Lynnehaven that have awful water. They don't have a filter, and it just tastes like medicine coming out of the tap. Our water here in Mallory is fine - no weird tastes or odors. I use the refrigerator door filtered water for coffee and drinking water, and right out of the tap for cooking. I guess it must be another thing to think of when purchasing a home - make sure you check out the drinking water, lol!

[mrfixit]

....

........ "Come out of the shower smelling like a three day old egg"........
It's giving new meaning to the term,
toilet water! At least I'm not alone.

........That is an excellent descriptive narrative......

........IF the water fits that "rotten egg" description in the "heated" water.........perhaps could be caused by the...... magnesium or aluminum sacrificial anode IN your HOT water heater.

.....go here for details http://www.waterheaterrescue.com/

.....Then..... click on "Smelly,Stinky,Rotten-EggHot Water" left side column-- 5th bullet down........Good Luck......

[GOJODO]

Denis G
We are interested in the Whirlpool filter you installed.
I understand it requires to be connected up to a drain,
where in the house did you hook it up and how did you do this.
Thank you:wave:

[Doodlegirl]

I'll ask a handy neighbor to help me with this, but the whole issue is so
smelly I don't know if the peroxide will help or not. Will give it a try. My doglets used to be so shiny and soft after a bath outside with the hose, now they look like a bad hair day. Poor us.

[Russ_Boston]

It seems to vary from Village to Village. We lived in Ashland, and I found the water to be not very good. We have friends in Lynnehaven that have awful water. They don't have a filter, and it just tastes like medicine coming out of the tap. Our water here in Mallory is fine - no weird tastes or odors. I use the refrigerator door filtered water for coffee and drinking water, and right out of the tap for cooking. I guess it must be another thing to think of when purchasing a home - make sure you check out the drinking water, lol!

Same as Taj - I have no trouble with the drinking water from the filter in the refrigerator. But I don't know about other areas (we're in Buttonwood).

[red tail]

try this for your shower. works great and anyone can install.

http://www.amazon.com/Sprite-Showers-HOB-CM-Output-Shower/dp/B000FZ2O8G/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1321804880&sr=1-1-catcorr

[ladydoc]

Same as Taj - I have no trouble with the drinking water from the filter in the refrigerator. But I don't know about other areas (we're in Buttonwood).

We are also in Buttonwood. Filtered drinking water from the fridge is good, but it does not address the damage to the appliances, horrible white spots on everything from the dishwasher (but mostly the glasses), white spots on the shower door and tile and dry hair.

[graciegirl]

The water here in the summer just smells to high heaven of bleach. Probably because heat promotes the growth of microoganisms and that is the way to kill them.

I haven't noticed any sulfur smell either in Hadley or in new house.

Pooh warned of orange mold in shower and Pooh is a meticulously good housekeeper. Orange mold is a new one for me, but all kinds of molds can grow in showers here simply because of the high humidity and the darkness. I don't think it has anything to do with water quality. More the surface and the circumstances. Those with windows in showers are better off. And with fans in showers too.

A weekly bleaching is good to deter mold in showers but sometimes straight bleach will break down the grout. Some will aim a portable fan toward the shower after using it and if you have a door on shower, leave it open to dry as well as it can.

We are in the semi tropics here, well maybe not technically, but you get what I mean.

[ladydoc]

The water here in the summer just smells to high heaven of bleach. Probably because heat promotes the growth of microoganisms and that is the way to kill them.

I haven't noticed any sulfur smell either in Hadley or in new house.

Pooh warned of orange mold in shower and Pooh is a meticulously good housekeeper. Orange mold is a new one for me, but all kinds of molds can grow in showers here simply because of the high humidity and the darkness. I don't think it has anything to do with water quality. More the surface and the circumstances. Those with windows in showers are better off. And with fans in showers too.

A weekly bleaching is good to deter mold in showers but sometimes straight bleach will break down the grout. Some will aim a portable fan toward the shower after using it and if you have a door on shower, leave it open to dry as well as it can.

We are in the semi tropics here, well maybe not technically, but you get what I mean.

Hi Gracie- since we put in the water softener/water filter we have not had any orange moldy stuff....

[Russ_Boston]

Hi Gracie- since we put in the water softener/water filter we have not had any orange moldy stuff....

You had it prior? You haven't been there that long have you? I haven't noticed any mold or white spots but then again we've only been down 5-6 weeks this year.

[HelenLCSW]

We have been living in Miami for over twenty years --more humid than the villages. While mold is an issue in Florida, the orange stuff is not mold, but minerals. Sounds as though there are two issues with the water in TV. The discoloration and calcification from minerals and tge taste of bleach from the chlorinization of the water to make it potable --so I guess that means we will need both a water softener to address the minerals and a filter to address the taste --or is there a one-size-fits-all?:oops:

[janmcn]

I was told several years ago that vets were seeing a large number of kidney stones in dogs that they contributed to TV water. I gave my dogs only bottled water since 2004, but my 12 year old male pom has a kidney stone and there's nothing they can do about it.

[graciegirl]

You are right Russ. I haven't lived here long enough to get orange mold. I think Pooh had been here for five or six years when she saw it. She solved problem by removing tiles and putting in solid surface, no grout. I have never seen any kind of mold in showers here, House in Hadley, and rental except black kind. And our house here is only six weeks lived in so no mold at all yet and no big problem with water. BUT it tastes and smells more bleachy than Cincinnati.

We only had Hadley house for three years and only saw a little black mold in shower under shower stoop (We had door) and in corners.

No one I know personally has ever told me their hair turned orange..:wave:

[ladydoc]

You had it prior? You haven't been there that long have you? I haven't noticed any mold or white spots but then again we've only been down 5-6 weeks this year.

Yes, we had it before we put the water conditioner/water filter in. We were here in July and put in the water conditioner in October. And that was long enough for the orange stuff to appear.

[ladydoc]

We have been living in Miami for over twenty years --more humid than the villages. While mold is an issue in Florida, the orange stuff is not mold, but minerals. Sounds as though there are two issues with the water in TV. The discoloration and calcification from minerals and tge taste of bleach from the chlorinization of the water to make it potable --so I guess that means we will need both a water softener to address the minerals and a filter to address the taste --or is there a one-size-fits-all?:oops:

Yes..go to Sear.com and go to water softeners. The hybrid one for $799 is both a water softener AND a whole house water filter. It works great...solved all the water and mold and orange stuff issues.

[graciegirl]

Dying to know what it is. Just curious as to how many have seen orange stuff in shower, and the opinion of expert in the field as to it's origin.

If there is a fungus among us, there must be a biochemist by trade too.

Gracie, who still lives by the scientific method.

[lovsthosebigdogs]

I don't mean to sound stupid, but my only experience with 'soft water' is a trip years ago to my aunt's house and she had a whole house water softener which made my skin and hair feel like I could never wash the soap/shampoo out. The feeling was so awful that I was in the shower for twice as long as usual until she finally came up and asked if I was ok. I told her my skin and hair seemed soapy after several minutes under the water and I couldn't wash out the soap. She laughed and said it was only the softener. Is that the way it is for everyone and do you just have to adjust to that feeling? Or, have they made improvements to the system in the many years since I experienced this as a teenager? I sure hope that this isn't the way I have to live the rest of my days, never knowing if the soap is on or off (truly, no exaggeration on the feeling in my memory. It has stayed with me for 40+ years).
Can anyone tell me if their softener makes any noticable difference when showering or washing?

[Bogie Shooter]

I don't mean to sound stupid, but my only experience with 'soft water' is a trip years ago to my aunt's house and she had a whole house water softener which made my skin and hair feel like I could never wash the soap/shampoo out. The feeling was so awful that I was in the shower for twice as long as usual until she finally came up and asked if I was ok. I told her my skin and hair seemed soapy after several minutes under the water and I couldn't wash out the soap. She laughed and said it was only the softener. Is that the way it is for everyone and do you just have to adjust to that feeling? Or, have they made improvements to the system in the many years since I experienced this as a teenager? I sure hope that this isn't the way I have to live the rest of my days, never knowing if the soap is on or off (truly, no exaggeration on the feeling in my memory. It has stayed with me for 40+ years).
Can anyone tell me if their softener makes any noticable difference when showering or washing?

This may help...............

Do you have hard water? If you do, you may have a water softener to help protect your plumbing from scale buildup, prevent soap scum, and lessen the amount of soap and detergent needed for cleaning. You've probably heard that cleaners work better in soft water than in hard water, but does that mean you will feel cleaner if you bathe in soft water? Actually, no. Rinsing in soft water may leave you feeling a little slippery and soapy, even after a thorough rinsing. Why? The answer lies in understanding the chemistry of soft water and soap.
Hard water contains calcium and magnesium ions. Water softeners remove those ions by exchanging them for sodium or potassium ions. Two factors contribute to that slippery-when-wet feeling you get after soaping up with soft water. First, soap lathers better in soft water than in hard water, so it's easy to use too much. The more dissolved soap there is, the more water you need to rinse it away. Second, the ions in softened water lessen its ability to 'stick' to the soap molecules, making it more difficult to rinse the cleanser off your body.

The reaction between a triglyceride molecule (fat) and sodium hydroxide (lye) to make soap yields a molecule of glycerol with three ionically-bonded molecules of sodium stearate (the 'soap' part of soap). This sodium salt will give up the sodium ion to water, while the stearate ion will precipitate out of solution if it comes into contact with an ion that binds it more strongly than sodium (e.g., the magnesium or calcium in hard water). The magnesium stearate or calcium stearate is a waxy solid that you know as soap scum. It can form a ring on your tub, but it rinses off your body. The sodium or potassium in soft water makes it much more unfavorable for the sodium stearate to give up its sodium ion so that it can form an insoluble compound and get rinsed away. Instead, the stearate clings to the slightly charged surface of your skin. Essentially, soap would rather stick to you than get rinsed away in soft water.

There are a few ways you can address the problem. You can use less soap, try a synthetic liquid body wash (synthetic detergent or syndet), or rinse with naturally-soft water or rainwater (probably won't contain elevated levels of sodium or potassium).

[graciegirl]

This may help...............

Do you have hard water? If you do, you may have a water softener to help protect your plumbing from scale buildup, prevent soap scum, and lessen the amount of soap and detergent needed for cleaning. You've probably heard that cleaners work better in soft water than in hard water, but does that mean you will feel cleaner if you bathe in soft water? Actually, no. Rinsing in soft water may leave you feeling a little slippery and soapy, even after a thorough rinsing. Why? The answer lies in understanding the chemistry of soft water and soap.
Hard water contains calcium and magnesium ions. Water softeners remove those ions by exchanging them for sodium or potassium ions. Two factors contribute to that slippery-when-wet feeling you get after soaping up with soft water. First, soap lathers better in soft water than in hard water, so it's easy to use too much. The more dissolved soap there is, the more water you need to rinse it away. Second, the ions in softened water lessen its ability to 'stick' to the soap molecules, making it more difficult to rinse the cleanser off your body.

The reaction between a triglyceride molecule (fat) and sodium hydroxide (lye) to make soap yields a molecule of glycerol with three ionically-bonded molecules of sodium stearate (the 'soap' part of soap). This sodium salt will give up the sodium ion to water, while the stearate ion will precipitate out of solution if it comes into contact with an ion that binds it more strongly than sodium (e.g., the magnesium or calcium in hard water). The magnesium stearate or calcium stearate is a waxy solid that you know as soap scum. It can form a ring on your tub, but it rinses off your body. The sodium or potassium in soft water makes it much more unfavorable for the sodium stearate to give up its sodium ion so that it can form an insoluble compound and get rinsed away. Instead, the stearate clings to the slightly charged surface of your skin. Essentially, soap would rather stick to you than get rinsed away in soft water.

There are a few ways you can address the problem. You can use less soap, try a synthetic liquid body wash (synthetic detergent or syndet), or rinse with naturally-soft water or rainwater (probably won't contain elevated levels of sodium or potassium).

And I thought you were just another pretty face...........

[Bogie Shooter]

And I thought you were just another pretty face...........

Gracie, Its just Google.com......................

[Russ_Boston]

Yes, we had it before we put the water conditioner/water filter in. We were here in July and put in the water conditioner in October. And that was long enough for the orange stuff to appear.

3 months was very quick and hopefully it was an exception. Anyone else (especially in Buttonwood or newer sections) have this orange mold issue? I'll certainly be on the lookout (but then again I don't think I'd overlook something orange growing in my shower:))

[lovsthosebigdogs]

[QUOTE=Bogie Shooter;420336]This may help...............

This was much more of an explanation than I ever expected but it was pretty impressive. Google or not, I was glad to get it. I guess I can get used to it or use less soap/shampoo or, as you said, change to a different kind. That slippery feeling is what I was talking about and it is weird but a person can get used to anything in paradise!

[thekeithfan]

Actually salty water is good for the palms. In fact I salt my palms with epsom salt every other month. Makes them green and grow like they are on something!

[B. Johnson]

Have read many comments about water quality in various areas of TV; anyone care to comment about the water taste, smell, hardness in Tamarind Grove?

[CarGuys]

Have read many comments about water quality in various areas of TV; anyone care to comment about the water taste, smell, hardness in Tamarind Grove?

As a owner there I am going to be very interested. I am going to have my friends in Tamarind who are there now have the water tested.

[Bogie Shooter]

As a owner there I am going to be very interested. I am going to have my friends in Tamarind who are there now have the water tested.

Be sure you know the reputation of the one doing the testing.

[ladydoc]

As a owner there I am going to be very interested. I am going to have my friends in Tamarind who are there now have the water tested.

You just need to taste it....

[CarGuys]

Thank you for your recommendation. This July we did.

That is why I am getting it tested by a independant lab. Not a water salesperson or the local water authority.

With a Cattle pasture in back of our home. Drainage ponds everywhere, fertilizer and who knows what that runs off the streets and down into the Aguifers. Puplic water has to be safe. Chlorine kills everything.
I believe in test don't guess.

It's a CarGuy thing. Verify don't assume.

[Russ_Boston]

That is why I am getting it tested by a independant lab. Not a water salesperson or the local water authority.

....

Verify don't assume.

Very smart on your part. Think I'll do the same.

[ladydoc]

Very smart on your part. Think I'll do the same.

You guys are right about testing for the nasties and crawlies, but even if there are none (and there won't be none) it would still taste terrible.

[Russ_Boston]

You guys are right about testing for the nasties and crawlies, but even if there are none (and there won't be none) it would still taste terrible.

Actually don't mind the taste from the refrigerator filter.

[CarGuys]

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov AKA Beaver Fever! - NO Snide rude JOKES Please

This is why the Nasty chlorine taste, Even in the Finger lakes where we have a 300 ft deep ice cold 16 mile long class AAA drinking water lake that supplies all of Syacuse and surrounding areas.

Skaneateles was just told it has to better treat its water without chlorine.

There are so many Dairy Farms and Golf Courses and People with Lawn Treatments. It all runs down hill folks.

As a side note -More waste oil runs into our Oceans every single day from drainage run offs, leaking cars equipment etc. Than the Valdez Oil Spill did in one day in Alaska.

One Gallon of used motor oil can contaminate one million gallons of fresh drinking water. So that leaking Golf Cart, Tractor, Truck drips. It rains it washes off to TV street drains and thats not the end of the story?

[CaptJohn]

I believe in test don't guess.

Verify don't assume.

Ditto. :agree: The old 'trust but verify' thing of the cold war.

[rubicon]

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov AKA Beaver Fever! - NO Snide rude JOKES Please

This is why the Nasty chlorine taste, Even in the Finger lakes where we have a 300 ft deep ice cold 16 mile long class AAA drinking water lake that supplies all of Syacuse and surrounding areas.

Skaneateles was just told it has to better treat its water without chlorine.

There are so many Dairy Farms and Golf Courses and People with Lawn Treatments. It all runs down hill folks.

As a side note -More waste oil runs into our Oceans every single day from drainage run offs, leaking cars equipment etc. Than the Valdez Oil Spill did in one day in Alaska.

One Gallon of used motor oil can contaminate one million gallons of fresh drinking water. So that leaking Golf Cart, Tractor, Truck drips. It rains it washes off to TV street drains and thats not the end of the story?

Allied signal contaminated Lake Ontario. The heavy development all around Skaneateles Lake didn't help there. Owasco lake is landlocked and that helps it. I haven't been on Cayuga lake or Oneida lake for some time.
and Cayuga Lakes

[CarGuys]

They built a prison on a old farm in Moravia at the end of Owasco. They dump the " Treated" sewage right into a fresh water drinking lake! And when it rains hard the plant by passes treatments.

The water there has been on alert for years and beach swim warnings.

Ontario is OK Allied Chemical runined Onondaga Lake. It has become a marvelous study of how with care and $$$$$$$ of treatment a dead lake can come back alive again. VERY SLOW! but returning. Will Salmom ever swim in it again as in the past???

Yes developement has hurt many areas. In TV I am concerned about the water tables lowering and our homes going into sink holes. But that is another topic

Thanks for the reply.

Regards- Herv

[graciegirl]

They built a prison on a old farm in Moravia at the end of Owasco. They dump the " Treated" sewage right into a fresh water drinking lake! And when it rains hard the plant by passes treatments.

The water there has been on alert for years and beach swim warnings.

Ontario is OK Allied Chemical runined Onondaga Lake. It has become a marvelous study of how with care and $$$$$$$ of treatment a dead lake can come back alive again. VERY SLOW! but returning. Will Salmom ever swim in it again as in the past???

Yes developement has hurt many areas. In TV I am concerned about the water tables lowering and our homes going into sink holes. But that is another topic

Thanks for the reply.

Regards- Herv

Carguy...what makes me think you are a worrier?? Maybe because I am one too...or used to be.

Look around you here and you will see folks who are walking upright and drink the water everyday. If it was making them sick, there would be a huge outcry. I think that the filtered water from the refrigerator is fine and if you want to be sure add a little alcohol. That should get rid of any microscopic critters.

Water is easy to have tested, but don't rely on the guys trying to sell you something.

Good Morning Herve!:wave:

[wesmin]

Back water flush is housed outside and returned to ground water.

[CarGuys]

Yep its mostly a three part problem Gracie, Me thinks my posts read worse than my concerns. How else can I get to 8000 like you.

Part one- My dermatologists and countless meds from City water. Took a trip to the Adirondacks MTS for a week this Fall all problems cleared up. Was the water.

Visited TV. Fell in Love with the people area and homes. Did not fall in Love with the water. Problems returned.

Part three- Have spent way to many hours in Earth science environmental class's and field trips. My students have to learn the cause and effect of a Automobile and its carbon foot print from Well to Wheels and then recycled back.

After visiting countless water treatment plants and sewage treatment plants I recieved Wayyyyyyyy to many visuals and information..

It will all be fine! I just have to start drinking Jack Daniels again! but thats another post.

See you in January- Merry Christmas All

[graciegirl]

Car.

Each of my kids and grandkids went through a stage of being vegetarians because the idea of eating an animal was so abhorrant to them at the time. Schools try to educate but sometimes they sensitize in areas that are not good for visual pictures for your whole life. Some of us are way more visual than others and we really don't need to see the xxxx floating in what will become drinking water.

Nature has it's own processes of restoring water to clean...or fairly clean and now we are doing the job for nature.

It is just like surgery, not everyone wants or needs to know the visual, even though our lives depend on it.

So everyone who just read what I wrote above take deep breaths and look at all the folks in golf carts driving around not sick or dead from the water. And if I have ruined drinking water for the rest of your lives, please choose something healthy to drink.

The water we drink has been recycled for.......ever. AND we are still here, now thanks to the processes of modern science.

Good morning all. I really do just love all of you.

[CarGuys]

The water we drink has been recycled for.......ever. AND we are still here, now thanks to the processes of modern science.

Good morning all. I really do just love all of you.[/QUOTE]

Now if you can only find that recycled fountain of youth Gracei we will be all set .

Have a good day which I know you will .Were off to the stress pitt.

Herv

[KNOLEN]

We are new here and are also wondering if a filter system for the water is what we should get. Would love to hear from all.

[CarGuys]

If you are so inclined.

Home Depot will give you a envelope with a test strip in it.

It is from Rain Soft they have been testing water since 1953.

No charge to the homewoner and not affilated with local City Water or County Health Departments.

PM me with the results.

Gracie - I'm trying!

I will not worry
I will not worry
I will not worry:icon_bored:

[Villages PL]

I will search previous posts, but have decided that we will just drink it. Probably better than bottled water.

Good decision! I've been drinking TV water since 1999 and enjoy great health. (Actually, I've been drinking Florida well-water since 1969.)

There's always a lot of concern about drinking water and I don't blame anyone for being concerned. If only people would be as concerned about all the other stuff they put in their mouth.

:wave:

[2BNTV]

WOW - I am a big drinker of water.

I guess I'm going to have to put drinking water in the budget. :jester:

[Russ_Boston]

WOW - I am a big drinker of water.

I guess I'm going to have to put drinking water in the budget. :jester:

I drink filtered tap but has anyone seen the ad for 'zero water'? Maybe this would be a cheaper alt than bottled if you are so inclined.

[Doodlegirl]

would niether drink or bathe in the water. That report appears to be 2010,
I will be looking forward to the 2011 report. Very bad, and I believe it was
Lady Doc who reported it as 2.1 on a list of 10 as the highest and best score.
I've lived in Florida for nearly 40 years, I've not seen this low a mark on water quality in those years. When I got out of my shower this a.m. I thought I was standing in a swamp. Can't let this continue without calling the water quality people in...shocking, and shocked. And the smell is horrible.
Not smart to say we see lots of people walking, upright in TV, we don't really know how much this bad water situation in some of the villages might be
impacting health on an ongoing basis. I wish the developer didn't own the
water supply in my village...am afraid I might be put on an ice floe like the old
eskimo's if I complain. Very bad marks, very bad 'stuff' in the water in Duval, at least.

[Russ_Boston]

would niether drink or bathe in the water. That report appears to be 2010,
I will be looking forward to the 2011 report. Very bad, and I believe it was
Lady Doc who reported it as 2.1 on a list of 10 as the highest and best score.
I've lived in Florida for nearly 40 years, I've not seen this low a mark on water quality in those years. When I got out of my shower this a.m. I thought I was standing in a swamp. Can't let this continue without calling the water quality people in...shocking, and shocked. And the smell is horrible.
Not smart to say we see lots of people walking, upright in TV, we don't really know how much this bad water situation in some of the villages might be
impacting health on an ongoing basis. I wish the developer didn't own the
water supply in my village...am afraid I might be put on an ice floe like the old
eskimo's if I complain. Very bad marks, very bad 'stuff' in the water in Duval, at least.

Could you post a link to the report you're talking about if possible. The last report I got from them looked fine.

[Doodlegirl]

On that site you choose the utility you are looking for by zip code. The
report from North Sumter Utilities is listed there with all of the carcinogens.
I haven't lived here long enough to have recieved a report from the utility
itself, but I hope someone with a report would compare it to what that site
reports. I don't believe everything I read, but the taste and smell of the water in my house is horrible. And, I've lived in Florida for nearly 40 years,
this is the worst, worst, worst. As I said, my dogs won't even drink it!

[Russ_Boston]

On that site you choose the utility you are looking for by zip code. The
report from North Sumter Utilities is listed there with all of the carcinogens.
I haven't lived here long enough to have recieved a report from the utility
itself, but I hope someone with a report would compare it to what that site
reports. I don't believe everything I read, but the taste and smell of the water in my house is horrible. And, I've lived in Florida for nearly 40 years,
this is the worst, worst, worst. As I said, my dogs won't even drink it!

I found the site but I also don't have my last report from them. I remember that I wasn't alarmed when I did read it.

As I said earlier I'm from MA and even though every up here loves the water (as do I), I don't notice much issue with the taste and smell of the tap water in TV but I do drink it filtered. The irrigation water smell on the other hand....

[Doodlegirl]

in addition to the taste and smell is whether the report/s from Homefacts
differ from those of the Utility itself. That would be very interesting.
Not saying the developer is with holding information critical to health and
safety, but wondering how two reports might differ. The one on Homefacts, I think, is the same one Lady Doc noted about 2.1 on a scale to 10. I'm
just one HO saying, "Ugh", but it feels like people have spent lots of dollars
working around the 'problem'. It would seem to me the developer ought to
be helping those of us with cruddy water.

While I looked at the house obviously, had an inspection prior to making an
offer, I didn't taste the water, nor did the inspector mention he did...or the
odor emanating. Could be the best kept secret,but not a good one, Russ.
I'll be looking for the report whenever it is published.

It shows Gary Morse as head of the North Sumter Utility, does that mean it
is a public or private utility? Do you know?

[Russ_Boston]

I don't know.

But the site says the reports are from 2004-2008. Much of the area developed below 466 was after that time including my area of Buttonwood. As I said I have no complaints about smell or taste but I would have concerns if contaminants were present in abundance.

[graciegirl]

My water out of the tap smells of bleach...sometimes slightly and sometimes hugely and usually that depends on the outdoor temperature. It never smells of swamp or of anything putrid. The water outside does...and frequently. It IS reclaimed water that we use for watering the lawn.

The filtered water from the refrigerator tastes fine.

My response about people walking around not sick was to the post about microorganisms which cause the obvious and right away.

Is the report from Homefacts from 2004-2008? My home in Hadley wasn't built until 2008.

People who sell expensive water systems have a lot to gain.

AND I am very suspicious of what they say.

[CarGuys]

would niether drink or bathe in the water. That report appears to be 2010,
I will be looking forward to the 2011 report. Very bad, and I believe it was
Lady Doc who reported it as 2.1 on a list of 10 as the highest and best score.
I've lived in Florida for nearly 40 years, I've not seen this low a mark on water quality in those years. When I got out of my shower this a.m. I thought I was standing in a swamp. Can't let this continue without calling the water quality people in...shocking, and shocked. And the smell is horrible.
Not smart to say we see lots of people walking, upright in TV, we don't really know how much this bad water situation in some of the villages might be
impacting health on an ongoing basis. I wish the developer didn't own the
water supply in my village...am afraid I might be put on an ice floe like the old
eskimo's if I complain. Very bad marks, very bad 'stuff' in the water in Duval, at least.

:bigbow::bigbow:

Gracie and others. This may sound dumb but can that irrigation water be running into the aquifers? After all the number of Golf courses and Homes are growing right?

I must say some of us have the medical reasons to not be ingesting anything into our bodies that causes the filtering system to work over time.

Gracie with the up most respect I have several friends who were walking around up right and having a great time and then died from paint solvents or Dairy Farm chemicals that built up in their body and killed them well before retirement time.

On national TV many years ago they ran a story of Florida residents that were getting very sick . It was traced back to water from shower heads that entered a person sinuses thru the nose. It some cases it was very very bad infection!

Our Cortland NY Aquifers were deemed safe yet people were getting cancer here. Companies that let chemicals run into the Citys drinking supply. Of course they bailed out of town and now manufacture your home goods in Mexico!

I want to enjoy TV and I think for me the answer will come only when I get there and have the water tested. It seems like most of us have picked a camp on this topic. Ignor it or fix it.

I still revert back to my mentors in automotive college. They said don't be a xpert! A xpert is this. A X is a HAS BEEN and a SPURT is a drip under constant pressure. "Test Don't Guess!

Great comments and concerns from all. The next best way for this community to wrap it up is TEST. Every one get it done and we compile Data from all the Village areas. I know there are those on this site and living in TV that are pretty darn good with a spread sheet. Just because it " Tasted Good" does not mean it is good for you. And also some bad smelling water can be OK but just Smelly.

I appreciate all of you who have expressed concerns positive neutral or negative.

Merry Christmas all.

[graciegirl]

../

[graciegirl]

:bigbow::bigbow:

Gracie and others. This may sound dumb but can that irrigation water be running into the aquifers? After all the number of Golf courses and Homes are growing right?

I must say some of us have the medical reasons to not be ingesting anything into our bodies that causes the filtering system to work over time.

Gracie with the up most respect I have several friends who were walking around up right and having a great time and then died from paint solvents or Dairy Farm chemicals that built up in their body and killed them well before retirement time.

On national TV many years ago they ran a story of Florida residents that were getting very sick . It was traced back to water from shower heads that entered a person sinuses thru the nose. It some cases it was very very bad infection! (It that is what was happening it probably was MOLD, that by it's nature grows in hidden dark places and shower heads are such places...spraying them weekly with bleach should fix that)

Our Cortland NY Aquifers were deemed safe yet people were getting cancer here. Companies that let chemicals run into the Citys drinking supply. Of course they bailed out of town and now manufacture your home goods in Mexico!

I want to enjoy TV and I think for me the answer will come only when I get there and have the water tested. It seems like most of us have picked a camp on this topic. Ignor it or fix it.

I still revert back to my mentors in automotive college. They said don't be a xpert! A xpert is this. A X is a HAS BEEN and a SPURT is a drip under constant pressure. "Test Don't Guess!

Great comments and concerns from all. The next best way for this community to wrap it up is TEST. Every one get it done and we compile Data from all the Village areas. I know there are those on this site and living in TV that are pretty darn good with a spread sheet. Just because it " Tasted Good" does not mean it is good for you. And also some bad smelling water can be OK but just Smelly.

I appreciate all of you who have expressed concerns positive neutral or negative.

Merry Christmas all.

Car.

I just had a birthday in November and I was born in 1939.

I have had cancer once ...when I lived in Ohio.

It takes a while for carcinogens to work on you. I probably have 30-40 good years left.

And, whatever is said about the Morse conglomerate, and their mountains of dough is that they have the cash and can fix almost anything in order to make more mountains of dough. I imagine that they can have some really dandy folks who install diatomese paste filters and can hire a chemist or two every once in awhile to test the water and keep it as clean as most in the U.S.

PLUS. None of us are really young and having children and ain't none of us are gettin' out of here alive.

The Morses may be pouring lead and arsenic into the water and chortling madly like the Republicans they are...

But they may be taking care of business too.

I see your aquifer and I raise you one osmosis.

Try not to worry Car.

See you soon. I will pour Scotch into your water as you sit by our tree.

Hugs,
Gracie

[SunCity]

:bigbow::bigbow:

Gracie and others. This may sound dumb but can that irrigation water be running into the aquifers? After all the number of Golf courses and Homes are growing right?

I must say some of us have the medical reasons to not be ingesting anything into our bodies that causes the filtering system to work over time.

Gracie with the up most respect I have several friends who were walking around up right and having a great time and then died from paint solvents or Dairy Farm chemicals that built up in their body and killed them well before retirement time.

On national TV many years ago they ran a story of Florida residents that were getting very sick . It was traced back to water from shower heads that entered a person sinuses thru the nose. It some cases it was very very bad infection!

Our Cortland NY Aquifers were deemed safe yet people were getting cancer here. Companies that let chemicals run into the Citys drinking supply. Of course they bailed out of town and now manufacture your home goods in Mexico!

I want to enjoy TV and I think for me the answer will come only when I get there and have the water tested. It seems like most of us have picked a camp on this topic. Ignor it or fix it.

I still revert back to my mentors in automotive college. They said don't be a xpert! A xpert is this. A X is a HAS BEEN and a SPURT is a drip under constant pressure. "Test Don't Guess!

Great comments and concerns from all. The next best way for this community to wrap it up is TEST. Every one get it done and we compile Data from all the Village areas. I know there are those on this site and living in TV that are pretty darn good with a spread sheet. Just because it " Tasted Good" does not mean it is good for you. And also some bad smelling water can be OK but just Smelly.

I appreciate all of you who have expressed concerns positive neutral or negative.

Merry Christmas all.

did you put a little somethin extra in your water this morning? i mean x-tra.

[Bogie Shooter]

Too lazy to read all 90 posts but, has anyone asked the local water company to come out and check the odor, taste,color that you are complaining about? If so, what was the response?

[swimdawg]

Too lazy to read all 90 posts but, has anyone asked the local water company to come out and check the odor, taste,color that you are complaining about? If so, what was the response?

............and the answer is??????

Patiently waiting..............

[Doodlegirl]

I noticed the POA had an article...bit mystifying to me...that Gary Morse was
selling North Sumter Utilities...not sure I understod the article, perhaps someone more familiar with the terminology and history here could recap.

[CarGuys]

............and the answer is??????

Patiently waiting..............

Ok Swimdawg plan two while we are waiting-

Ruth is putting on my tie dyed tee shirt facing South in the Rocking chair with You tube gently playing Kumbaya-

[CarGuys]

Yea! The Drinking Water Post has at last dried up.

Thanks for all that participated.

Merry Christmas All

Herv