Is there a French dream?

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Is there a British dream? think about it....why is there an American Dream??? my dear people, there is an American Dream because our founding fathers were radicals!! yes, RADICALS!! prior to our magnificent Constitutional Rebuplic, all men on earth were under the subjugation of a monarch or despot...there was no concept of all men being equal...rights were given at the whim of one's king through "divine right". our entire greatness comes from the belief that all men have unalienable rights given by their CREATOR!!! without this foundation, without a moral people, our great republic cannot stand...

and yet we move further and further away from dependence on our Creator and on our friends and neighbors, as it should be, to dependence on our new god, the government....will we be so foolish as to let our American Dream die an ignoble death at the hands of corrupt politicians? the world is waiting...if our dream dies, so will the dream of freedom for all mankind.

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Is there a British dream? think about it....why is there an American Dream??? ....... our entire greatness comes from the belief that all men had unalienable rights given by their CREATOR!!! without this foundation, without a moral people, our great republic cannot stand...
and yet we move further and further away from dependence on our Creator and on our friends and neighbors, as it should be, to dependence on our new god, the government....will we be so foolish as to let our American Dream die an ignoble death at the hands of corrupt politicians? the world is waiting...if our dream dies, so will the dream of freedom for all mankind.

The best explanation of this war against the inalienable rights given to us by our Creator is in Mark Levin's book, "Liberty and Tyranny":

"For the Statist, liberty is not a blessing but the enemy. It is not possible to achieve Utopia if individuals are free to go their own way. The individual must be dehumanized and his nature delegitimized.

Through persuasion, deception and coercion, the individual must be subordinated to the state. He must abandon his own ambitions for the ambitions of the state. He must become reliant on and fearful of the state. His first duty must be to the state--not family, community, and faith, all of which have the potential of threatening the state. Once dispirited, the individual can be molded by the state.

The Statist's Utopia can take many forms, and has throughout human history, including monarchism, feudalism, militarism, fascism, communism, national socialism, and economic socialism. They are all the same species--tyranny. The primary principle around which the Statist organizes can be summed up in a single word--equality.

Equality as understood by the Founders is the natural right of every individual to live freely under self-government, to acquire and retain the property he creates through his own labor, and to be treated impartially before a just law. Moreover, equality should not be confused with perfection, for man is also imperfect, making his application of equality even in the most just society, imperfect. .......

...The Statist, however, misuses equality to pursue uniform economic and social outcomes. He must continuously enhance his power at the expense of self-government and violate the individual's property rights at the expense of individual liberty, for he believes that through persuasion, deception, and coercion he can tame man's natural state and man's perfection can, therefore, be achieved in Utopia. The Statist must claim the power to make that which is unequal equal and that which is imperfect perfect. This is the hope the Statist offers, if only the individual surrenders himself to the all-powerful state. Only then can the impossible be made possible.

President Barack Obama made this point when lecturing the Wesleyan University graduating class of 2008 during his campaign: "Our individual salvation depends on collective salvation."

But salvation is not government's to give....."

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Is there a British dream? think about it....why is there an American Dream??? my dear people, there is an American Dream because our founding fathers were radicals!! yes, RADICALS!! prior to our magnificent Constitutional Rebuplic, all men on earth were under the subjugation of a monarch or despot...there was no concept of all men being equal...rights were given at the whim of one's king through "divine right". our entire greatness comes from the belief that all men have unalienable rights given by their CREATOR!!! without this foundation, without a moral people, our great republic cannot stand...

and yet we move further and further away from dependence on our Creator and on our friends and neighbors, as it should be, to dependence on our new god, the government....will we be so foolish as to let our American Dream die an ignoble death at the hands of corrupt politicians? the world is waiting...if our dream dies, so will the dream of freedom for all mankind.

This is a really good thought-provoking post, chachacha. I am still pondering it. I think you have hit on something really important here: the birth of this nation as a dream extensible through succeeding generations. I really don't know if the British or the French have such a "dream" and I don't know that the Germans or the Italians had such a dream of unification prior to Bismarck or Garibaldi (respectively). I'm going to think about this.

I disagree, however, with only one facet of your thesis: "dependence on our new god, the government...our dream dies." I think the new god is money, wealth, and the acquisition thereof. Government is only a tool that many use to gain the leverage to facilitate the acquisition and maintenance of wealth. As such a tool, it needs to be trimmed, and rendered practically impotent, except in matters pertaining to "form a more perfect union, establish justice, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty...."

In his first letter to Timothy at the church in Ephesus, St. Paul wrote "for the love of money is the root of all evil." Many have pointed out, and I believe correctly, that it is not evil to have money and wealth. It is God's blessing; but to love money more than God is not a good thing. I think an interesting statistic would be: how many Americans check their account balances each week, and how many Americans go to church each week.

Thank you again, chachacha, for a very thought-provoking post. (I hope this wasn't too long; I do go on sometimes.)

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Psalm 33:12Blessed (happy, fortunate, to be envied) is the nation whose God is the Lord, the people He has chosen as His heritage. Amplified Bible

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thanks for such good replies...i must admit this question was not original with me, but it touched me so deeply i wanted to share the conversation...it was posed by matt spaulding of the Heritage Foundation at the state Tea Party convention recently..i have been pondering it ever since...i am sure that other leaders had dreams of empire or grandeur or unity, but no one before or since has lifted up the worth of the individual as did our founding fathers. and now the cancer of "collectivism" is threatening to rob us of our birthright. please pose this question to your fellow americans and ask them to really think about why our country has been so great until now and whether they think it may be in decline.

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Chacha says "and yet we move further and further away from dependence on our Creator and on our friends and neighbors, as it should be, to dependence on our new god, the government....'

Are you saying that we should depend on churches and charities and not government assistance to the needy? Churches and chariites can do only so much while the government has much more money. Instead of huge amounts of foreign aid to countries who do not like us (Pakistan), let's have more domestic assistance so families can be helped off the dole and put back to work.

A welfare to work program can certainly be started and maintained that even the Tea Party should like.