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Tom Hannon
12-06-2011, 05:47 AM
I want to get my wife something simple to read her email. She is not to good on a computer. It is her 60th birthday and Christmas two days apart. I already bought her a few other things but want to add to the list.
An IPAD might be easier to stuff in her pocketbook but a netbook might be more universal. But for just reading/replying to emails and storing pictures ...would an IPAD be better for her. Can she still search the web with an IPAD to read news or watch the shopping channel or would the netbook be a better option? I could get a netbook for under $300 but I see the IPAD go for close to $500. Being on a fixed income I need to watch my spending. Which is a better option? Thanks
jblum315
12-06-2011, 07:03 AM
The new Amazon Kindle Fire ($199) does almost everything an iPad does. It is basically a small netbook. You can set it up to read and send email. You can download and read books on it. Many apps available. However it only works with WiFi, no 3G available.
Tom Hannon
12-06-2011, 07:04 AM
The new Amazon Kindle Fire ($199) does almost everything an iPad does. It is basically a small netbook. You can set it up to read and send email. You can download and read books on it. Many apps available. However it only works with WiFi, no 3G available.
What is 3G?
Avista
12-06-2011, 07:06 AM
I've had both an Netbook and an IPad 2. The i Pad2 is the winner hands down.
angiefox10
12-06-2011, 07:27 AM
I have both as well.... IPad wins!
RichieB
12-06-2011, 07:28 AM
What is 3G?
It appears that I'm in the same boat as you on this Tom. I have to get educated on this stuff.
djplong
12-06-2011, 07:28 AM
And iPad, or any tablet for that matter, is MISERABLE for entering data. So while you can read email on an iPad with ease, reply or creating emails are a royal pain unless you get some kind of external keyboard (which usually means pairing a Bluetooth device to your iPad).
I have a Kindle Fire and while I really like it, the mail client on it is AWFUL.
Answering some other questions..
3G is a name for a certain kind of cellular data service implying certain speeds that were better than the original "dial-up quality" speeds from several years ago. It about as fast as a slow DSL connection.
If you buy an iPad, you're also going to have to get a data plan (usually around $30/mo) UNLESS you get a WiFi-only model. BUT - with WiFi-only, you don't have universal coverage - you're a slave to depending on WiFi hotspot availability.
getdul981
12-06-2011, 07:41 AM
I'm glad you brought this up Tom, because I've been wondering if my wife could use any of these devices to play Farmville on. It appears from djplon's response that neither of these devices would be acceptable.
Anyone use something like these to play on-line games?
Tom Hannon
12-06-2011, 07:45 AM
I'm glad you brought this up Tom, because I've been wondering if my wife could use any of these devices to play Farmville on. It appears from djplon's response that neither of these devices would be acceptable.
Anyone use something like these to play on-line games?
My wife applications will consist of email, storing photos, reading NY newspapers and as a camara
getdul981
12-06-2011, 07:59 AM
I believe there is a blue tooth wireless keyboard available that your wife could use to input data and type e-mails.
Bill-n-Brillo
12-06-2011, 08:20 AM
Tom -
Can't help you with info re: iPad as I don't have one.
I can tell you that a netbook is nothing other than a downsized and somewhat decontented laptop computer..........which is really just a portable computer. So if she doesn't like fooling with a standard computer, laptop or desktop, she probably won't be real fond of a netbook/notebook/laptop. I bought a netbook a couple of years ago and like it for what it is. I like mine but functionally, it's the same as operating any other standard-type computer.
Bill :)
getdul981
12-06-2011, 08:31 AM
Tom -
Can't help you with info re: iPad as I don't have one.
I can tell you that a netbook is nothing other than a downsized and somewhat decontented laptop computer..........which is really just a portable computer. So if she doesn't like fooling with a standard computer, laptop or desktop, she probably won't be real fond of a netbook/notebook/laptop. I bought a netbook a couple of years ago and like it for what it is. I like mine but functionally, it's the same as operating any other standard-type computer.
Bill :)
We bought one several years ago also and find it is tooooo sllllloooooooowwwww.
Snowbirdtobe
12-06-2011, 08:41 AM
I love the iPad, iPhone, iMac, but just bought a Gateway notebook for some software development.
The notebook has an intel i3 processor and 4 gb memory and was $329 on a black Friday BestBuy web deal.
Don't get a netbook. The whole category is dying.
Bill-n-Brillo
12-06-2011, 08:41 AM
We bought one several years ago also and find it is tooooo sllllloooooooowwwww.
True true! Part of the "decontented" concept - mine runs Windows 7 Starter which is a skinnied-down version of 7.....no internal optical (CD/DVD) drive......processing speed is definitely slower by most current standards - - - - but I only use it when we're on vacation/in TV. I just grit my teeth and keep on clickin' the keys... :D The very small size was the appeal to me when I bought it.
Bill :)
njbchbum
12-06-2011, 09:26 AM
tom - unless your wife carries a large tote, the 10" ipad will not fit into her purse for convenient carrying around...the 7" tablet is better for that. and that is one reason why i went to the tablet rather than the ipad.
i bought the barnes and noble nook tablet because i do not need all of the bells and whistles of the ipad. i will not be taking pictures - so i do not need the rear camers; i woll not be doing video conferencing, so i do not need the front facting camera. i am looking to be entertained and be able to watch a streaming movie now and then, read a book frequently, check my email when i travel and play games when i am riding between nj and maine and nj and fl!
with the nook tablet i can read a book that i downloaded before i leave home or can download at a wi-fi spot on the road. i can check my email at any wi-fi spot along my travel route. i can watch that movie at our overnite spot along the road [or read my book] after my husband has gone to sleep because the lighting of the nook can be adjusted for same - and it will not interfere with a sleeping husband while i am entertained. i can read my book at any pool in the villages because of the adjustable lighting flexibility of the nook as well. and there are lots of games to buy for the nook that do not require a wi-fi connection which will keep me entertained along my travel routes! waiting for internet access until we reach a spot along our travel route does not bother me - i do not intend to be attached to this device so that we are inseparable!
my suggestion is that you head over to barnes and noble and have the nook salesperson give you an in-depth demo of that device, then head out to best buy and ask a salesperson to show you the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (16GB) tablet - a 7" device that has front/back cameras and the ability to connect to the internet without having to rely on a wi-fi spot [it's like using your cell phone sorta]. it is set up in the store to let you explore its capabilities right there - internet and all.
am not sure whether best buy sells the ipad or not, i know walmart dies - but i'm sure another poster will come along and let you know where you could do an ipad test drive there in the villages.
someone can also probable also let you know where you can try out the amazon kindle fire - that, too, is more e-reader than computer - like the nook tablet. it can only access the internet in a wi-fi spot. the one thing that the kindle fire does not offer compared to the nook is the ability to add a micro sd card that allows for the expansion of memory - that would let your wife store mor pictures on a nook than on a kindle - though, i think there is lots of storage space on either device.
there is lots of good info about the ipad, various tablets and e-readers at:
http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/
and
http://reviews.cnet.com/best-tablets/best-5-android-tablets
Blackie
12-06-2011, 09:50 AM
With an iPad you can do most things that a regular computer will. There are hundreds of thousands of apps for the iPad. There's a strong rumor that Microsoft will be releasing "Office" apps - "Word, Excel etc. "
The Kindle Fire will do no where near as much as the iPad. The Fire is designed to consume products from Amazon, for example you cannot put your own videos on it.
Here is a link to one of many articles defining the issues users are finding with the Kindle.
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/kindle-fire-usability.html
swimdawg
12-06-2011, 10:05 AM
iVote iVote iVote for the iPad!
Sunshine Mary
12-06-2011, 10:48 AM
Ipad ...
I got both IPad .
Ipad1 and Ipad 2 and well get the new one when it come out it nice to take in my handbag,take to the pool with me I take it every were I go ...Love it and she would love it
Avista
12-06-2011, 10:58 AM
My iPad 2 fits in my handbag. Also my 3 G with ATT costs $15/Month, but only get it for the month I will use it. It is great or traveling or waiting at doctor offices etc.
nkrifats
12-06-2011, 11:20 AM
iPad
Sunshine Mary
12-06-2011, 11:21 AM
My iPad 2 fits in my handbag. Also my 3 G with ATT costs $15/Month, but only get it for the month I will use it. It is great or traveling or waiting at doctor offices etc.
Yes You should get the 3 G with your Ipad that important I got the $25 /Month,
But I am computer addiction .The last house we rented here in the Village could not get on line way to slow so I use my ipad .
yes you are right waiting at the Dr office is great time go fast with your Ipad
batman911
12-06-2011, 01:01 PM
Kindle Fire does not have a camera (one of your requirements). iPad is a better deal.
Tom Hannon
12-06-2011, 01:27 PM
The jury has announced its verdict. It looks like IPAD2 is the way to go. The Samsung Galaxy looks just as good but I might as well go with the IPAD2. Thanks for all the expert advice. I will try to get away without the 3G. Most of the time she will use it is inside our house.
aljetmet
12-06-2011, 01:48 PM
Directv has just came out with an APP that will allow you to watch live TV on you IPAD. (You must be on your home network though)
The jury has announced its verdict. It looks like IPAD2 is the way to go. The Samsung Galaxy looks just as good but I might as well go with the IPAD2. Thanks for all the expert advice. I will try to get away without the 3G. Most of the time she will use it is inside our house.
Remember this, Tom, once she starts using her new toy, she might just want it to be able to do more. I toys are sort of addicting... ;)
You're a good hubby!
njbchbum
12-06-2011, 06:01 PM
tom - if you are going the ipad2 route, i agree with pooh that you should consider getting the 3g version for the difference in price. there is nothing that says your MUST subscribe to a data plan from the gitgo. that can come at a later date. with the initial purchase you just have to decide which data provider you would want at that later date - verizon or at&t.
data plans could make great gifts for your wife down the line!!! ;) i'd pop for an ipad2 if i had someone to sponsor my data plan!!!
Tom Hannon
12-06-2011, 06:04 PM
tom - if you are going the ipad2 route, i agree with pooh that you should consider getting the 3g version for the difference in price. there is nothing that says your MUST subscribe to a data plan from the gitgo. that can come at a later date. with the initial purchase you just have to decide which data provider you would want at that later date - verizon or at&t.
data plans could make great gifts for your wife down the line!!! ;) i'd pop for an ipad2 if i had someone to sponsor my data plan!!!
I'm afraid when she opens the present she will say, "What the hell am I going to do with this?" And throw it at me.
I'm afraid when she opens the present she will say, "What the hell am I going to do with this?" And throw it at me.
We can compile a list for you if you like... ;)
It's just something different and so often, it takes a bit of getting used to something. We'll start on that list for you and your Sweetie!
1. Weather alert app....$9.99 She can check the weather in locations she picks and be alerted to watches or warnings from the National Weather Service.
(I have this app on my Iphone and Ipod to check on things at our rental property as well as weather for my family in various locations.)
2. ANGRY BIRDS.... ;) Ah, it speaks for itself....addicting and fun,
3. Book reading through a number of providers....Amazon, B&N, IBooks, Google, various libraries.
4. Taking pictures...and once she takes them, she can e-mail them to friends and family.
5. Skype...and FACETIME...
6. Games, crossword puzzles, search the web.
7. Shopping online.... :)
8. Learning how to do something she wants to learn...bridge, canasta, etc.
9. If you have Netflix, she can watch movies.
10. Others can add to the list now... ;)
jblum315
12-06-2011, 07:37 PM
Pandora, of course
And now Sirius XM radio is available for iPad
wendyquat
12-06-2011, 11:08 PM
Tom, if she throws it, send it my way!
memason
12-07-2011, 06:25 AM
Tom,
Here's a thread with lots of app suggestions from the TOTV folks.
Your wife is gonna love her new toy!
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30126
natickdan
12-07-2011, 08:39 AM
I've had my ipad2 for several months and I don't have any regrets. For the most part, it has replaced my laptop. In fact, when I travel, I bring my iPad with me and leave the laptop at home.
There are also ipad traing classes offered here in TV.
Good luck!
Pathel
12-07-2011, 09:21 AM
I've had my ipad2 for several months and I don't have any regrets. For the most part, it has replaced my laptop. In fact, when I travel, I bring my iPad with me and leave the laptop at home.
There are also ipad traing classes offered here in TV.
Good luck!
Are those classes held at the Lifelong Learning College?
linandvin
12-07-2011, 07:56 PM
When do you think the iPad 3 will be out? I'm trying to hold off. Definitely 3G ...especially for those drives to and from NY! It helps pass the time.
Sunshine Mary
12-07-2011, 08:00 PM
When do you think the iPad 3 will be out? I'm trying to hold off. Definitely 3G ...especially for those drives to and from NY! It helps pass the time.
Hay I can't wait till IPAd 3 out .I well get it
villages07
12-07-2011, 08:28 PM
Most of the Apple rumor sites are speculating that the ipad 3 will be out in March-April of 2012. I have the original iPad and will seriously consider buying the 3 when it comes out....more a want than a need. It is such a cool device (especially if you're not already exposed to all the smartphone stuff).
Here's an excerpt from one rumor site on version3:
It will have a faster processor, which is rumored to be the A6 processor, a camera with better resolution and clearer photo capture, a retina display that will surely be appreciated by tablet lovers, and other improved iPad apps.
Tom Hannon
12-07-2011, 08:40 PM
It appears the IPad does not come out of the box working. Something about attaching it to my old computer and using Itunes which I don't have. My wife will be away most of the day on Friday. Can any of you guys work me thru this over the phone if need be. iT will be my dime.
villages07
12-07-2011, 08:44 PM
Tom.... I don't think that is the case any longer. With version 5 of the iOS operating system they removed the requirement to have a "master" computer and sync the ipad to it.
I think you can activate and use it right out of the box.
Tom Hannon
12-07-2011, 08:59 PM
Tom.... I don't think that is the case any longer. With version 5 of the iOS operating system they removed the requirement to have a "master" computer and sync the ipad to it.
I think you can activate and use it right out of the box.
Thanks. I was ready to return it. LOL. I intend to get everything ready to go for my wife on Friday. ( she will be away al day with her sister) I should have time to set everything up. This way, on Christmas Day she can open the present and start playing right away.
njbchbum
12-07-2011, 09:03 PM
tom - if you run into a snag - the geek squad at best buy will handle everything for you - they did so for a friend's daughter without a hassle.
Tom Hannon
12-07-2011, 09:11 PM
tom - if you run into a snag - the geek squad at best buy will handle everything for you - they did so for a friend's daughter without a hassle.
I bought the IPAD at PC Richard. Would it matter to the GEEKS?
njbchbum
12-07-2011, 10:11 PM
I bought the IPAD at PC Richard. Would it matter to the GEEKS?
i don't believe so - i see their ads on television for all sorts of computer glitch response. maybe call before you head to best buy just to make sure?
Sunshine Mary
12-07-2011, 10:55 PM
Thanks. I was ready to return it. LOL. I intend to get everything ready to go for my wife on Friday. ( she will be away al day with her sister) I should have time to set everything up. This way, on Christmas Day she can open the present and start playing right away.
Hay Tom I hope your Wife is not a member on here .Because she going to know about her GREAT Gift
Tom Hannon
12-08-2011, 05:43 AM
Hay Tom I hope your Wife is not a member on here .Because she going to know about her GREAT Gift
No Mary. She is not a member of TOTV. Maybe once she learns how to use the IPAD she will be.
Tom Hannon
12-08-2011, 06:06 AM
Are those classes held at the Lifelong Learning College?
I'b like to know the answer to that question also. Dan, tell us more.
njbchbum
12-08-2011, 09:36 AM
Originally Posted by Pathel:
Are those classes held at the Lifelong Learning College?
and then followed up by tom:
I'b like to know the answer to that question also. Dan, tell us more
lifelong learning college offers several classes for using the ipad - llc can be reached by link from tv's home page under the lifestyle tab if this tab does not work for ya:
http://www.thevillageslifelongcollege.com/pdfs/2012/College_Catalog_spring_2012_online_version.pdf
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Tom Hannon
12-08-2011, 10:17 AM
FANTASTIC. What a great site this is. All these helpful answers to my quetion about an IPAD. Everyone has been so helpful.
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