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mariluu65
12-07-2011, 07:16 PM
A local organization has taken over a wildlife preserve that borders my back yard. CAN THEY DO THAT? How do I find out who bought this land? It's making me sick to see what they are doing.

bike42
12-07-2011, 07:19 PM
Where are you located?

SgtJohn
12-07-2011, 08:34 PM
What are they doing ?

villages07
12-07-2011, 08:47 PM
If you are in Sumter County, you can go to the property appraiser site, search for your address; navigate to the GIS map of your neighborhood and click on adjoining parcels to see who owns them, when bought, etc.

http://www.sumterpa.com/GIS/Search_F.asp

graciegirl
12-07-2011, 10:09 PM
Mariluu. Please return and tell us where you are located and what they are doing and who "they" are.

Boudicca
12-08-2011, 09:36 AM
Yes, please post again as I was told the "set aside, wildlife area" land is sacrosant.....

buzzy
12-08-2011, 10:01 AM
If you are in Sumter County, you can go to the property appraiser site, search for your address; navigate to the GIS map of your neighborhood and click on adjoining parcels to see who owns them, when bought, etc.

http://www.sumterpa.com/GIS/Search_F.asp

Thanks, that's a really neat feature.

paulandjean
12-08-2011, 10:42 AM
Whats making you sick?,Because they are building a road? Please explain.

chuckster
12-08-2011, 10:42 AM
A local organization has taken over a wildlife preserve that borders my back yard. CAN THEY DO THAT? How do I find out who bought this land? It's making me sick to see what they are doing.

Sounds like someone is "stirring the pot" .......jmho :popcorn::popcorn:

this should be interesting..........:popcorn::popcorn:

angiefox10
12-08-2011, 10:46 AM
Sounds like someone is "stirring the pot" .......jmho :popcorn::popcorn:

this should be interesting..........:popcorn::popcorn:

Yep.... I agree.... We've been punked! :laugh:

memason
12-08-2011, 11:39 AM
Hmmmmm..... Seems like a large percentage of "first time posters" come on here and post a negative or controversial post and then never return.

Not sure that they expect of this forum ????

Just saying . . .

Bill-n-Brillo
12-08-2011, 11:42 AM
HEY CHUCKSTER..............pass some of that down this way!! :popcorn:

Bill :)

2BNTV
12-08-2011, 11:56 AM
HEY CHUCKSTER..............pass some of that down this way!! :popcorn:

Bill :)

If we knew where you lived, you would be getting a lot of popcorn for Christmas. :jester:

:wave:

mariluu65
12-08-2011, 02:53 PM
I am in the village of Santiago, in The Villages

angiefox10
12-08-2011, 03:15 PM
I don't see a forest preserve in that area. The Owl Preserve, but that is on the other side of the golf course.

mariluu65
12-08-2011, 03:24 PM
If you are in Sumter County, you can go to the property appraiser site, search for your address; navigate to the GIS map of your neighborhood and click on adjoining parcels to see who owns them, when bought, etc.

http://www.sumterpa.com/GIS/Search_F.asp

I looked it up and it is owned by The Villages of Lake Sumter. Under "Use Desc.", it says ACREAGE NOT CLASSED AS AG (09900)

Do you know what that means?

pooh
12-08-2011, 03:51 PM
Hi Mariluu,

Exactly what is this group doing to the land? Is it being surveyed? Are trees being removed?

If the land hasn't been designated a preserve, and by the description you found, it doesn't seem to be, then with proper authorization, I'm sure the land can be used in many ways. Sorry about that.

janmcn
12-08-2011, 04:00 PM
It's beginning to sound like all those people that bought homes bordering the "owl perserve" back in 1999 and 2000 got duped, if what MaryLu says is true. There are no trees on this land, and it is nowhere near the golf course. Buyer Beware.

rubicon
12-08-2011, 04:08 PM
I suggest the OP begin making some phone calls to the county planning commission to find out what is going on. It is public record after all and residents have a right to know.

A road implies vehicles and vehicles imply activity. What type of activity?

villages07
12-08-2011, 04:09 PM
Mariluu...not sure what that designation means. Can you provide some more specifics on the location? Bordering streets in The Villages?

It looks like there is a section of Santiago that borders the northern boundary of the private property off of 466 between BV and Morse where the Morse family and other connected folks live. Otherwise, I and others are just guessing about your question.


You might also try calling Janet Tutt's office... They might be able to give you an answer although their domain is CDD owned land.

Bogie Shooter
12-08-2011, 04:45 PM
It's beginning to sound like all those people that bought homes bordering the "owl perserve" back in 1999 and 2000 got duped, if what MaryLu says is true. There are no trees on this land, and it is nowhere near the golf course. Buyer Beware.

Where is there an owl preserve in the village of Santiago?

angiefox10
12-08-2011, 04:48 PM
Where is there an owl preserve in the village of Santiago?

Bogie, You're right. The owl preserve is not in the Village of Santiage. It's just the only preserve I could find close to that village. I don't think what the OP is looking at is a preserve.

chuckster
12-08-2011, 04:58 PM
Mariluu...not sure what that designation means. Can you provide some more specifics on the location? Bordering streets in The Villages?

It looks like there is a section of Santiago that borders the northern boundary of the private property off of 466 between BV and Morse where the Morse family and other connected folks live. Otherwise, I and others are just guessing about your question.


You might also try calling Janet Tutt's office... They might be able to give you an answer although their domain is CDD owned land.

I agree, try and pin point the location (village, streets, etc.) and we might be able to help.

Hey Bill here it comes..................


:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

chuckster
12-08-2011, 04:59 PM
Mariluu...not sure what that designation means. Can you provide some more specifics on the location? Bordering streets in The Villages?

It looks like there is a section of Santiago that borders the northern boundary of the private property off of 466 between BV and Morse where the Morse family and other connected folks live. Otherwise, I and others are just guessing about your question.


You might also try calling Janet Tutt's office... They might be able to give you an answer although their domain is CDD owned land.

I agree, try and pin point the location (village, streets, etc.) and we might be able to help.

Hey Bill here it comes..................two times


:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

janmcn
12-08-2011, 05:02 PM
Where is there an owl preserve in the village of Santiago?

On TV map it's called the Harold S Schwartz Wildlife Preserve, but locals have called it the owl preserve forever. It's south of Azteca Loop and Caribe Drive, east of BVB, west of Arredondo, north of Carvello and Panchos Way.

Bogie Shooter
12-08-2011, 05:19 PM
I sent an email to Janet Tutt, District Manager regarding construction in the Village of Santiago. Here is her reply....


Good Evening,

I really appreciate your helping us to address rumors.

There is plan (subject to District 1 finalizing in the morning) to move forward with a one way path across District property (adjacent to wetland area) to the De La Vista postal facility to allow carts to access it without going out on to Morse.

Other than that, there are no other activities taking place.

Let me know if you need anything further.

Janet

SgtJohn
12-08-2011, 05:21 PM
So, That's it. A cart path. Alrighty then.

graciegirl
12-08-2011, 05:23 PM
I kinda think I would like to vote for Bogie Shooter for president.

SgtJohn
12-08-2011, 05:25 PM
Sounds good. I'll 2nd the emotion.

momesu
12-08-2011, 05:31 PM
So, That's it. A cart path. Alrighty then.


Nope the activity Janet talked about is no where near the Village of Santiago.
The mystery deepens..........I need some of that popcorn.
Suzanne

skip0358
12-08-2011, 05:32 PM
This was mentioned at last weeks CIC meeting. They were exploring a way to get cart traffic to the postal station because there were complaints from residents about driving across Moorse Blvd. Much of the property isv marsh land but they are trying to add the path.

Sunshine Mary
12-08-2011, 05:36 PM
I sent an email to Janet Tutt, District Manager regarding construction in the Village of Santiago. Here is her reply....


Good Evening,

I really appreciate your helping us to address rumors.

There is plan (subject to District 1 finalizing in the morning) to move forward with a one way path across District property (adjacent to wetland area) to the De La Vista postal facility to allow carts to access it without going out on to Morse.

Other than that, there are no other activities taking place.

Let me know if you need anything further.

Janet

Thanks for the homework
I also would vote for Bogie Shooter for president.

Bogie Shooter
12-08-2011, 05:43 PM
Nope the activity Janet talked about is no where near the Village of Santiago.
The mystery deepens..........I need some of that popcorn.
Suzanne

Good point, I will follow up.

duffysmom
12-08-2011, 05:55 PM
As I drive north on Morse Blvd, I've noticed what appears to be a road through marsh land north of the postal facility. It appears to be wet land and it concerned me, now I know what is going on. I feel sorry for the homes that backed up to marsh. Over the year's I've learned that there is no such thing as protected land, especially in Forida.

Bill-n-Brillo
12-08-2011, 05:57 PM
Bogie Shooter for President of TV - can I be one of your cabinet members?

:jester:

Bill :)

downeaster
12-08-2011, 09:37 PM
I sent an email to Janet Tutt, District Manager regarding construction in the Village of Santiago. Here is her reply....


Good Evening,

I really appreciate your helping us to address rumors.

There is plan (subject to District 1 finalizing in the morning) to move forward with a one way path across District property (adjacent to wetland area) to the De La Vista postal facility to allow carts to access it without going out on to Morse.

Other than that, there are no other activities taking place.

Let me know if you need anything further.

Janet

I am reminded of the old adage "another good story spoiled by an eyewitness". Thanks for the clarification, Bogie Shooter.

BTW, hats off to Janet Tutt too. I think she is doing a great job.

mariluu65
12-08-2011, 10:52 PM
Where are you located?

In the village of Santiago in The Villages. Sumter County

mariluu65
12-08-2011, 10:55 PM
What are they doing ?

They are clearing away all the underbrush. Everything except the trees. Now the animals I have always seen will not be there.

They are riding ATV's, golf carts, and small vehicles to carry trash cans , etc. on this dirt road they are making. They are also riding horses on it.

Marilu

mariluu65
12-08-2011, 10:59 PM
Yes, please post again as I was told the "set aside, wildlife area" land is sacrosant.....

When I bought my house it was listed with a wildlife preserve after the fence in my back yard. Now they are making a road for horses and ATV's, golf carts, etc. I can't find anyone who will stop them. I called a lawyer and they want large monies for a consult and then they require a retainer.

Marilu

graciegirl
12-09-2011, 05:24 AM
When I bought my house it was listed with a wildlife preserve after the fence in my back yard. Now they are making a road for horses and ATV's, golf carts, etc. I can't find anyone who will stop them. I called a lawyer and they want large monies for a consult and then they require a retainer.

Marilu

Mariluu

Can you just tell what street you live on? I know you don't want to give away your location. I am sure you are upset. You aren't alone. Someone will help you with the answers.

paulandjean
12-09-2011, 06:56 AM
A single road should not cause to much of a problem.Safety was one of the concerns.Sounds like the area will not be disturbed very much.

graciegirl
12-09-2011, 07:49 AM
A single road should not cause to much of a problem.Safety was one of the concerns.Sounds like the area will not be disturbed very much.

BUT...if it truly was the undisturbable Wildlife Preserve...than there is a REAL problem.

I think anyone who doesn't have anything built behind them is asking for a huge surprise someday, but I really thought some of this was Protected Land...I don't know by whom...The Federal Gubmunt? The Florida uppity-ups? The Society for the protection of Egrets?

I am kinda joking but I am not joking either.

drdodge
12-09-2011, 08:01 AM
all of the land north of 466 where the morse family live to the south of Santiago will be houses sometime in the near future . Its just called a preserve for general purposes.
drd

graciegirl
12-09-2011, 08:31 AM
If this is part of the Morse compound than I guess it isn't protected anything............

Boudicca
12-09-2011, 09:11 AM
That poor little girl from the mining town, graduated from a prestigious college where she'd obtained a full scholarship. She used the money she'd earned while in college from teaching city kids how to play the fiddle, how to properly gut and cook "game meat"to go to a small, yet select private Finishing School in Switzerland. Speach therapy smoothed her country accent (which in reallity was quite charming) Our heroine learned how to walk with a book on her head (huh?) was taught all the "social graces", had a clothing and facial "make-over"........ Then she met the titled man of her dreams (although we don't know the content of those dreams)

graciegirl
12-09-2011, 09:20 AM
That poor little girl from the mining town, graduated from a prestigious college where she'd obtained a full scholarship. She used the money she'd earned while in college from teaching city kids how to play the fiddle, how to properly gut and cook "game meat"to go to a small, yet select private Finishing School in Switzerland. Speach therapy smoothed her country accent (which in reallity was quite charming) Our heroine learned how to walk with a book on her head (huh?) was taught all the "social graces", had a clothing and facial "make-over"........ Then she met the titled man of her dreams (although we don't know the content of those dreams)

Sandra. I am waiting here to hug you.

Boudicca
12-09-2011, 09:25 AM
Thank you, Gracie. I just had to "go there" when I read your little post script:laugh: Will collect that hug, next week....

bike42
12-09-2011, 09:50 AM
all of the land north of 466 where the morse family live to the south of Santiago will be houses sometime in the near future . Its just called a preserve for general purposes.
drd

The land north of 466 where the Morses and SEVERAL OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS live is not part of The Villages and never has been. Private owners of land can do whatever they wish with it, including sell it, as long as they are within the limits of its zoning and setbacks. Anyone who buys a house within The Villages (or any other development) that backs up onto land that is privately owned needs to assume that something may change in the future.

The Preserves within The Villages are clearly marked as such with small white signs along the black board fences ("Nature Preserve, No trespassing, pets, hunting, etc., etc.). If you have a black board fence behind your property that does not have these signs, you are not on a Preserve and cannot expect any future protection of the land by The Villages.

At least the properties in the parcel north of 466 are zoned Agricultural. Down in the newer areas, near 466A, people are buying houses that back up to farms and raving about their wonderful views, feed ing the horses and so forth. Much of that land is zoned Commercial and the owners are just waiting for a chance to capitalize on the growth of The Villages.

pooh
12-09-2011, 10:13 AM
The land north of 466 where the Morses and SEVERAL OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS live is not part of The Villages and never has been. Private owners of land can do whatever they wish with it, including sell it, as long as they are within the limits of its zoning and setbacks. Anyone who buys a house within The Villages (or any other development) that backs up onto land that is privately owned needs to assume that something may change in the future.

The Preserves within The Villages are clearly marked as such with small white signs along the black board fences ("Nature Preserve, No trespassing, pets, hunting, etc., etc.). If you have a black board fence behind your property that does not have these signs, you are not on a Preserve and cannot expect any future protection of the land by The Villages.

At least the properties in the parcel north of 466 are zoned Agricultural. Down in the newer areas, near 466A, people are buying houses that back up to farms and raving about their wonderful views, feed ing the horses and so forth. Much of that land is zoned Commercial and the owners are just waiting for a chance to capitalize on the growth of The Villages.
A good reminder to anyone who is considering a home or lot that backs to open land...check on the zoning or ownership of the land behind your property.

paulandjean
12-09-2011, 10:22 AM
Like I said, It could be a safety issue for the post office traffic. Small golf cart trail will not hurt anything. Remember this area and all of florida could be a preserve. Remember the buffalo preserve,really just a field. Have to relax and not jump to conclusions. So its not a real problem.

janmcn
12-09-2011, 10:25 AM
I sent an email to Janet Tutt, District Manager regarding construction in the Village of Santiago. Here is her reply....


Good Evening,

I really appreciate your helping us to address rumors.

There is plan (subject to District 1 finalizing in the morning) to move forward with a one way path across District property (adjacent to wetland area) to the De La Vista postal facility to allow carts to access it without going out on to Morse.

Other than that, there are no other activities taking place.

Let me know if you need anything further.

Janet

Why doesn't Janet Tutt know what's going on in Village Santiago? Does she not know or is she just not saying?

Bogie Shooter
12-09-2011, 10:54 AM
I sent another email to Janet, here is her reply to my question that I was asking about Santiago and no De Le Vista..........

Good Evening,

I knew you said Village of Santiago. I just wanted you to know what was happening just in case that is where the rumor was coming from re: the roadway. I am not aware of anything happening in Santiago. I have copied Sam in case he is aware of anything.

Have a great weekend.

Janet

-----------------------------------
The Sam mentioned is Sam Wartinbee with District Property Management.
I think the original poster should provide more information to her claim, street, area, etc.

Bogie Shooter
12-09-2011, 10:59 AM
Why doesn't Janet Tutt know what's going on in Village Santiago? Does she not know or is she just not saying?

How would I or anyone else be able to answer your questions? Maybe you could email and ask her. Your implication in your questions seems very unfair to me.

I have found Janet to be very responsive to any question I have asked. She is held in high regard in the way she performs the role of District Manager. And has been complimented by both the POA & HOA in their newsletters.

duffysmom
12-09-2011, 11:09 AM
I hold Janet Tutt in the highest regard. She has been extremely helpful to our family and friends when all else failed. She attends all of the POA meetings as well. :coolsmiley:

Barefoot
12-09-2011, 11:53 AM
A good reminder to anyone who is considering a home or lot that backs to open land...check on the zoning or ownership of the land behind your property.

In 2007, We almost bought a home backing on "horse fields", and highly recommended by the agent for privacy. We drove to the street where the horse farm had frontage, and it had a huge For Sale sign. Buyers Beware!

swimdawg
12-09-2011, 12:44 PM
In 2007, We almost bought a home backing on "horse fields", and highly recommended by the agent for privacy. We drove to the street where the horse farm had frontage, and it had a huge For Sale sign. Buyers Beware!

I bought property last January on a "lake" (Well, Bill would call it a retention pond :) ). Anyway, my sales rep made it exceedingly clear that TV did not own the property on the other side of the lake...........which is now a farm. I signed all kinds of paperwork acknowledging the fact that I understood that TV did not own that property.

Surprisingly......and much to my delight, TV added many lovely trees on the other side of the lake which will eventually obstruct the view of whatever will be built over there. They also added some lovely greenery on our side of the lake. Very classy!

They didn't have to do that.....all the lots had been sold....yes...all the lots were sold! But I was really happy about it. I guess that Morse family likes to have their properties look "top shelf". Yes, TV is TOP SHELF!!!

angiefox10
12-09-2011, 01:36 PM
I bought property last January on a "lake" (Well, Bill would call it a retention pond :) ). Anyway, my sales rep made it exceedingly clear that TV did not own the property on the other side of the lake...........which is now a farm. I signed all kinds of paperwork acknowledging the fact that I understood that TV did not own that property.

Surprisingly......and much to my delight, TV added many lovely trees on the other side of the lake which will eventually obstruct the view of whatever will be built over there. They also added some lovely greenery on our side of the lake. Very classy!

They didn't have to do that.....all the lots had been sold....yes...all the lots were sold! But I was really happy about it. I guess that Morse family likes to have their properties look "top shelf". Yes, TV is TOP SHELF!!!

Huh??? I didn't hear you... what'd you say??? :laugh:

quirky3
12-09-2011, 01:38 PM
On TV map it's called the Harold S Schwartz Wildlife Preserve, but locals have called it the owl preserve forever. It's south of Azteca Loop and Caribe Drive, east of BVB, west of Arredondo, north of Carvello and Panchos Way.

Here is a link to a house in that area that is for sale. The write-up mentions that it is on an Owl Preserve, and the map shows exactly where she is talking about - hope that helps to clarify the area in question.
http://www.trulia.com/property/map/3066607800-1322-Arredondo-Dr-The-Villages-FL-32162

chuckster
12-09-2011, 02:42 PM
Post #48 mentions small white signs on the black rail fence that states "property is a preserve and no trespassing", etc. Could be wrong but in all the views towards the field from the house for sale in prior post didn't see any such signs. jmho but kinda throws doubt onto the area being a preserve even though map might indicate same. Could be Ag/Comm. property. As I said jmho.......don't have a dog in this fight.

quirky3
12-09-2011, 02:49 PM
I agree, I looked for signs on the fence but I didn't see any. However, there was a picture of a burrowing tortoise, which is a federally protected species. Who knows?

Bogie Shooter
12-09-2011, 04:52 PM
Follow up to my earlier posts. I have received a response from Sam Wartinbee because Janet Tutt forwarded my email to him.
Looks like everybody can go back to enjoying the good life and stop the hand wringing and worrying.My advice is, if you see something that you don't understand and want an answer, send Janet an email. These folks don't like rumors any more than we do.

Good Morning,



The property owner in Lakes and Live Oaks south of the Village of Santiago is clearing a path for exercising the horses, a road is not being built.



Sam Wartinbee

Director, District Property Management

3231 Wedgewood Lane

Villages, Fl. 32162

swimdawg
12-09-2011, 08:52 PM
Follow up to my earlier posts. I have received a response from Sam Wartinbee because Janet Tutt forwarded my email to him.
Looks like everybody can go back to enjoying the good life and stop the hand wringing and worrying.My advice is, if you see something that you don't understand and want an answer, send Janet an email. These folks don't like rumors any more than we do.

Good Morning,



The property owner in Lakes and Live Oaks south of the Village of Santiago is clearing a path for exercising the horses, a road is not being built.



Sam Wartinbee

Director, District Property Management

3231 Wedgewood Lane

Villages, Fl. 32162

So all that fretting and worrying was for naught?! Can you see me shaking my head...rolling my eyes? Ohhhh......there's not enough popcorn around for this one! :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Barefoot
12-09-2011, 08:58 PM
Follow up to my earlier posts. I have received a response from Sam Wartinbee because Janet Tutt forwarded my email to him.
These folks don't like rumors any more than we do.[/COLOR]

Good Morning,

The property owner in Lakes and Live Oaks south of the Village of Santiago is clearing a path for exercising the horses, a road is not being built.
Sam Wartinbee
Villages, Fl. 32162

Three cheers for Bogie and his rational approach!

Pturner
12-09-2011, 10:16 PM
Bogie Shooter for President. :)

paulandjean
12-10-2011, 06:55 AM
Remember like I said we should not jump to conclusions. Really not a big problem.Way back on page 5.

graciegirl
12-10-2011, 09:00 AM
moi?:undecided:

nitehawk
12-10-2011, 09:27 AM
Great job Bogie Shooter :bigbow:

skyguy79
12-10-2011, 10:52 AM
Great root'n-toot'n-shoot'n shooter! http://www.allpest.com/wot/smileys/woohoo.gif

graciegirl
12-10-2011, 11:01 AM
In my very humble opinion, Bogie Shooter always gets it right.

He sees the bottom line and has good common sense and knows how to spot a scam, find the answer, and say it like it really is. Plus he is FAIR and doesn't have some hidden agenda.

Boy Howdy. That Bogie is great!!

He reminds me of my Sweetie...and that is the nicest thing I can say about anyone.

Bogie Shooter
12-10-2011, 11:36 AM
In my very humble opinion, Bogie Shooter always gets it right.

He sees the bottom line and has good common sense and knows how to spot a scam, find the answer, and say it like it really is. Plus he is FAIR and doesn't have some hidden agenda.

Boy Howdy. That Bogie is great!!

He reminds me of my Sweetie...and that is the nicest thing I can say about anyone.

Aw shucks, Ma'am. :sigh:

paulandjean
12-10-2011, 03:02 PM
No Problem

mariluu65
12-10-2011, 05:17 PM
Follow up to my earlier posts. I have received a response from Sam Wartinbee because Janet Tutt forwarded my email to him.
Looks like everybody can go back to enjoying the good life and stop the hand wringing and worrying.My advice is, if you see something that you don't understand and want an answer, send Janet an email. These folks don't like rumors any more than we do.

Good Morning,



The property owner in Lakes and Live Oaks south of the Village of Santiago is clearing a path for exercising the horses, a road is not being built.



Sam Wartinbee

Director, District Property Management

3231 Wedgewood Lane

Villages, Fl. 32162

What I told you is a fact....not a rumor. There are ATV's, golf carts, and motorcycles riding on the dirt ROAD that they are making in back of my house!! So it is not a PATH to just exercise horses!

Also, I have in writing that my property bordered a Wildlife Preserve that would always remain rural. Now I see carts carrying garbage cans and pulling horses down this road. I am sick over this and plan to see what I can do legally.

Marilu Smith

graciegirl
12-10-2011, 05:49 PM
Mariluu

You need no help from anyone if you have it in writing. If your home is a resale, then it would be the responsibility of the previous owners unless there is something on the deed.

Where do you live?

Bogie Shooter
12-10-2011, 07:34 PM
i agree with Gracie. Where do you live, what is the street name. You came on here with a gripe, how do you expect anyone to help?

coach
12-10-2011, 08:35 PM
Ms Smith, Is your property located at xxxxxxxxxxxx. in Sumter County?

If so, the Sumter County tax office can answer any questions you have about property that adjoins your property. Your inquires should be directed to the zoning dept.

This forum can do nothing except guess as to your situation. A call on Monday to the county offices can answer all your questions.

The Shadow
12-10-2011, 11:10 PM
I will bet you the property with the path is owned by GTMJ Investments Group value $232,320 and the wild life preserve is a strip of property approximately 65 feet wide and approximately 4/10 miles long running along the back of the properties in your area separating you from the farm land in your area. The 65 feet wide property is owned by The Villages of Lake Sumter. It is obvious do to the shape of this property it will not be built on.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/The_Villages/Map2.jpg

paulandjean
12-11-2011, 07:01 AM
I do not think she wants her address posted. You should respect her wishes.

graciegirl
12-11-2011, 07:50 AM
Shadow. One picture is worth a thousand words.

It is always wise to prepare for a surprise when you buy a lot with nothing on it behind you.

The Shadow
12-11-2011, 09:43 AM
Another 1000 words, note the red “X”.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/The_Villages/Map3.jpg

mariluu65
12-11-2011, 11:53 AM
I will bet you the property with the path is owned by GTMJ Investments Group value $232,320 and the wild life preserve is a strip of property approximately 65 feet wide and approximately 4/10 miles long running along the back of the properties in your area separating you from the farm land in your area. The 65 feet wide property is owned by The Villages of Lake Sumter. It is obvious do to the shape of this property it will not be built on.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/The_Villages/Map2.jpg

Yes, that is the area and our home. And that is the land that a dirt road is being built on. I will be going to the appraiser's office tomorrow.

Thanks to all of you for your help.
MARILU

mariluu65
12-11-2011, 11:56 AM
Mariluu

You need no help from anyone if you have it in writing. If your home is a resale, then it would be the responsibility of the previous owners unless there is something on the deed.

Where do you live?

I have checked with my realtor with no help. Thanks for your help. I will see the appraiser tomorrow.

mariluu65
12-11-2011, 11:57 AM
Ms Smith, Is your property located at xxxxxxxxxxxx. in Sumter County?

If so, the Sumter County tax office can answer any questions you have about property that adjoins your property. Your inquires should be directed to the zoning dept.

This forum can do nothing except guess as to your situation. A call on Monday to the county offices can answer all your questions.

You are correct........I will call tomorrow. Thanks to all of you for pointing me in the right direction.

mariluu65
12-11-2011, 12:01 PM
I do not think she wants her address posted. You should respect her wishes.

Thanks. But I think it's too late for that since The Shadow has found me. I will be going to the appraiser's office tomorrow.

Thank you all.

English Ivy
12-11-2011, 12:03 PM
I will bet you the property with the path is owned by GTMJ Investments Group value $232,320 and the wild life preserve is a strip of property approximately 65 feet wide and approximately 4/10 miles long running along the back of the properties in your area separating you from the farm land in your area. The 65 feet wide property is owned by The Villages of Lake Sumter. It is obvious do to the shape of this property it will not be built on.

I may be wrong, but since that whole area that backs up to Mariluu's home is the family compound, I'm thinking GTMJ stands for Gary, Tracy, Mark Jennifer ... Dad and his three kids.

Mariluu, who exactly put it in writing that the land was a wildlife preserve? Did you purchase originally from The Villages or was this a pre-owned home that you bought?

I'm thinking they can probably do anything they want to with that land.

mariluu65
12-11-2011, 12:05 PM
Shadow. One picture is worth a thousand words.

It is always wise to prepare for a surprise when you buy a lot with nothing on it behind you.


When the Realtor says it is a wildlife preserve....and the paperwork describes the property with the privacy of a wildlife preserve, no one should have to worry about surprises.

The Shadow
12-11-2011, 12:08 PM
Yes, that is the area and our home. And that is the land that a dirt road is being built on. I will be going to the appraiser's office tomorrow.

Thanks to all of you for your help.
MARILU

I would take any paperwork you may have gotten at time of purchase that states this is a reserve. Please keep use posted.

starflyte1
12-11-2011, 01:00 PM
Approx how close to the fence is the area being disturbed? Could it be 65ft from the fence, or is it closer?

mariluu65
12-13-2011, 05:03 PM
This is a follow up and the last I will be talking about the dirt road built behind what I was told was a wildlife preserve.

I went to the Sumter County Appraisers office. They could not help at all. They sent me to Building and Planning on 466a. Nice people who spent a lot of time with me. They said it is not a Preserve, but private property owned by The Villages and Lakes and Live Oaks. Nothing I can do unless I want to sue the Realtor who sold me the property. And that won't stop the road from being built.

I also talked with Janet Tutt and she cannot help since this is not a district problem.

So beware what you have in writing from your Realtor. You need proof of everything.

Thanks for all your help.

Marilu

Boudicca
12-13-2011, 06:21 PM
sorry for all the turmoil you are going through :(

Pturner
12-13-2011, 08:01 PM
I may be wrong, but since that whole area that backs up to Mariluu's home is the family compound, I'm thinking GTMJ stands for Gary, Tracy, Mark Jennifer ... Dad and his three kids.

Mariluu, who exactly put it in writing that the land was a wildlife preserve? Did you purchase originally from The Villages or was this a pre-owned home that you bought?

I'm thinking they can probably do anything they want to with that land.

Good thinking, English Ivy. You probably nailed it.

Mariluu, if the preserve is the 65-foot wide strip that The Shadow located, and the dirt road is not inside the 65-foot strip, then your real estate agent gave you accurate information. I also am hoping that once all the dirt moving is done, the dirt road will not be as intrusive to you as you fear. It's not like anyone who wants can take their carts or dirt bikes onto the Morse's private family farm.

You did well to come here for guidance on how to get more information. I am hopeful for you that this is a situation of, "all's well that end's well".