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Guest
12-11-2011, 03:00 PM
"Paul is more Republican than the other candidates.

Paul’s campaign themes: freedom, prosperity, and peace are already resonating throughout the country.

Paul thinks philosophically, which is what the debates need, rather than 'unending restatements of neo-conservative positions.' 'You cannot conduct a strong, assertive, and costly foreign policy with a weak economy . . . we must restore confidence in our country’s ability to achieve even greater heights of prosperity than in the past.' "

http://www.newsmax.com/navrozov/Paul-Huckabee-Iowa-Gingrich/2011/12/09/id/420470

Guest
12-11-2011, 03:27 PM
This thread makes no sense - among R's, Paul's is favored by LESS than 10%.

Obviously, Republicans do NOT see Paul as more republican than other candidates.

Guest
12-11-2011, 03:44 PM
from the same link as 1st post in this thread-(did ya even read it?!?)
"A Des Moines Register poll released late Saturday, Dec. 3, found Gingrich leading the GOP field with 25 percent support among likely Iowa caucus goers on Jan. 3; Texas Rep. Paul received 18 percent support; and Romney received 16 percent..."

Guest
12-11-2011, 03:45 PM
This thread makes no sense - among R's, Paul's is favored by LESS than 10%.

Obviously, Republicans do NOT see Paul as more republican than other candidates.

I agree.. Paul is not more Republican.. he is more Conservative.. and he is the only one who has been consistently conservative.. (maybe Bachmann).
The rest are or have been previously pro tarp, pro individual mandate, pro big government, pro abortion, pro "climate change" (hey newt.. you and nancy look comfy on that couch), Pro big spending and interventionist military policy, are only interested in phoney budget "cuts".. ya right..
Too bad most Republicans will make the same mistake they did with nominating the "most electable" like they did with McCain and Bush.. and we will get the same results.. either massive debt like Bush .. or lose to Obama like McCain.
JJ

Guest
12-11-2011, 04:16 PM
from the same link as 1st post in this thread-(did ya even read it?!?)
"A Des Moines Register poll released late Saturday, Dec. 3, found Gingrich leading the GOP field with 25 percent support among likely Iowa caucus goers on Jan. 3; Texas Rep. Paul received 18 percent support; and Romney received 16 percent..."





I was referring to the Presidential Nomination - not Iowa. After all, didn't Bachmann win the useless Iowa straw poll? National polling shows Paul favored by less than 10% of Repubes.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

Romney is still favored to win the nomination.

Guest
12-11-2011, 04:39 PM
Actually Ron Paul is a Libertarian..........I'm just saying

Guest
12-11-2011, 04:42 PM
I like Paul a lot, but not sure he is White House type. Almost too good of a man to qualify for President. Congress would eat him alive.

Guest
12-11-2011, 05:29 PM
Ron Paul is not a Republican. He is a conservative is an anarchist is libertarian.

Not Republican.

Guest
12-11-2011, 07:09 PM
Not saying that Ron Paul does not have some good ideas nor that he is not a very intelligent person - but definitely NOT Presidential material. Absolutely nothing he would start would make it through Congress.

Don't forget that a candidate can say he is for something and will put it at the top of their list when they get to be President - but it still has to make it through Congress intact to get done.

Broad statements like "do away with the Internal Revenue Service or Dept of Education or EPA" may sound good but have NO chance of ever making it through Congress - no matter which party is in control.

Guest
12-13-2011, 07:22 PM
Iowa poll shows Paul and Gingrich almost neck and neck!
Gingrich 22% and Paul 21%

http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/13/in-iowa-paul-closes-to-within-one-point-of-front-runner-gingrich/

Guest
12-14-2011, 08:32 AM
I will most likely be seeing Ron Paul on Saturday. He's holding a town meeting in Nashua at 10am and I think I can make it there. My wife may be at a town meeting with Ron Paul as we speak. She was going to try to get to one scheduled for 8am near where she works.

Guest
12-14-2011, 10:13 AM
by all means keep in mind all the candidates will display, say, do whatever it is they think will make their star shine = display, say, do what ever it takes to get elected....then back to business as usual.

Just as Obama and all other elected officials who have an almost none existent campaign promises kept have done and continue to do.

btk

Guest
12-14-2011, 10:25 AM
by all means keep in mind all the candidates will display, say, do whatever it is they think will make their star shine = display, say, do what ever it takes to get elected....then back to business as usual.

Just as Obama and all other elected officials who have an almost none existent campaign promises kept have done and continue to do.

btk

Let me emphasize up front, that I am no ron paul fan, he reminds me of a rather odd uncle who has some interesting life experiences, but comes up with some off-the-wall ideas that make everyone else in the family uncomfortable. However, I firmly beleive that paul is not one of the candidates you describe who will do or say whatever to get elected. Paul is running to get his ideas aired, and will say what he beleives, much of which is definitely not designed to gain mainstream appeal. He is an interesting politician who appeals to a lot of people's instinctive sense of what is right, but has too many unworkable big ideas to ever gain national support in my opinion.

Guest
12-14-2011, 12:23 PM
Ron Paul is the one candidate who has not wavered on his positions over many years. I like him also because of how he speaks in terms of pure horse sense and he is blunt.....he calls it what it is. His experience as a physician is valuable in the healthcare debate.

Overall, Ron Paul does not seem to be interested in "What's in it for ME?" His positions are here:

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/

Guest
12-14-2011, 12:40 PM
ya.. he might not get his major planks through congress but he would stop a lot of the goofy laws and deficit spending with vetoes.
JJ

Not saying that Ron Paul does not have some good ideas nor that he is not a very intelligent person - but definitely NOT Presidential material. Absolutely nothing he would start would make it through Congress.

Don't forget that a candidate can say he is for something and will put it at the top of their list when they get to be President - but it still has to make it through Congress intact to get done.

Broad statements like "do away with the Internal Revenue Service or Dept of Education or EPA" may sound good but have NO chance of ever making it through Congress - no matter which party is in control.

Guest
12-14-2011, 10:23 PM
i looked at ron paul's website (thanks for the link) but unfortunately he says nothing about foreign policy, which whether we like it or not, must be considered as important...the days of isolationism are over....i resented his remark in the debate about the patriot act taking away our rights...i feel that was a good way to protect us in these days of terrorism...we cannot hide our heads in the sand nor deny that we have enemies. he is a good man but will not get my vote in the primary.

Guest
12-15-2011, 06:26 AM
Oh, there are clauses in the "USA PATRIOT Act" (it's official name) that are good - like letting law enforcement agencies share intelligence. But warrantless wiretaps and so many of the other parts of it are building blocks of a totalitarian state. We may not be there yet - but google "abuses of the patriot act" and you get 700,000 hits.

Guest
12-15-2011, 03:28 PM
Truman's detrctors portayed him as a rube. Yet he read the classic in latin and in my opinion was one of the best presidents in my lifetime. so I suppose we ought not to be too critical of what ron Paul detractor say of him.

I have not counted anyone out of this race yet and like many of you won't really know who I will vote for until I pull the lever or mark my X

Guest
12-15-2011, 04:15 PM
Paul when asked yesterday wouldn't rule out an independent run if he did not win the nomination. That would possibly secure a second obama term.

Guest
12-15-2011, 04:19 PM
I found it on the front page of his website, under Issues... Foreign Policy.
http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/national-defense/
JJ

i looked at ron paul's website (thanks for the link) but unfortunately he says nothing about foreign policy, which whether we like it or not, must be considered as important...the days of isolationism are over....i resented his remark in the debate about the patriot act taking away our rights...i feel that was a good way to protect us in these days of terrorism...we cannot hide our heads in the sand nor deny that we have enemies. he is a good man but will not get my vote in the primary.

Guest
12-16-2011, 03:09 PM
Ron Paul has been consistent abut his political positions;albeit he toned down some from his 2008 bid. He has been nicknamed the "intellectual godfather" by the Tea Party. I like his platforn on limited the size of government starting with slashing $1 trillion from the budget, eliminating five agencies, cutting corporate taxes, taxes on capital gains/dividends and repeal of ObamaCare and Sarbanes Oxley. However I do not like that he does not take much stock in america's excptionalism and hence he stance on foreign policy is something I fundamentally disagree.

He is the sort of guy who would do well as an adviser but as president not safe. You need a guy who can stand up to foreign powers and in that respect he is too wishy washy. He just doesn't have the stomach for it

Guest
12-16-2011, 04:16 PM
Ron Paul has been consistent abut his political positions;albeit he toned down some from his 2008 bid. He has been nicknamed the "intellectual godfather" by the Tea Party. I like his platforn on limited the size of government starting with slashing $1 trillion from the budget, eliminating five agencies, cutting corporate taxes, taxes on capital gains/dividends and repeal of ObamaCare and Sarbanes Oxley. However I do not like that he does not take much stock in america's excptionalism and hence he stance on foreign policy is something I fundamentally disagree.

He is the sort of guy who would do well as an adviser but as president not safe. You need a guy who can stand up to foreign powers and in that respect he is too wishy washy. He just doesn't have the stomach for it

:agree:

Guest
12-16-2011, 05:07 PM
I am sure that both Rubicon and RichieLion agree that a presidential candidate can say whatever they want in order to get elected. (Put in whoever's name you wish - but it is the same result).

Ron Paul's idea of eliminating 5 Federal agencies would have absolutely no chance of making it through Congress as is the same for most of his other ideas. They may sound wonderful to you - but would die in committee - if they ever made it that far.

Ron Paul does have some very good thoughts and whoever is elected President should listen to some of his ideas - does not matter which party wins. Paul is not Presidential material but would be a good person for a sitting president to go to for some advice and guidance from time to time.

Guest
12-16-2011, 06:24 PM
I love and hate the guy at the same time. With any luck I should see him tomorrow morning at a town hall style meeting in Nashua.