Bonifay pace of play

[chili557]

We have a new leader in the Villages for slowest round of golf.Played this for the third time this week,POP inproved by 5 minutes.Still took 4 hours and 45 minutes.Need to get Ambassadors doing their jobs and not making people happy by not asking them to pick up the pace.

[rhredd1654]

What's the rush? Bonifay is a new course, and players need to get acclimated. Did you miss your soap opera on the TV?? Up north I would consider anything under 5 hours a fast round. Why don't you request the 7:28 tee time, then you wouldn't have anyone holding you up?

[renrod]

We have a new leader in the Villages for slowest round of golf.Played this for the third time this week,POP inproved by 5 minutes.Still took 4 hours and 45 minutes.
Consider yourself lucky if that is YOUR new leader for slow.:coolsmiley:

[brostholder]

I believe that normal pace of play for 18 holes is usually between 4:15 and 4:35 depending on the course. I don't know what normal is at bonifay, but if it falls between 4:15 and 4:35, then your wait averaged from 30 seconds a hole to 1.5 minutes a hole. Like the previous poster from NY, I have played a number of times where the back up on a par 3 hole was 4 or 5 foursomes and the wait was a half hour for just one hole. I do agree with you that if there are open holes and other golfers aren't keeping their position on the course then the ambassador should hurry them up!

[Mikeod]

Played Bonifay Monday and we were on a pace for a 3 hour nine holes. Always two groups on every tee. After seven holes, an ambassador came by and let us know that it wasn't the group in front of us or the one in front of them, but a group in front of that last group. He had spoken to them about picking up the pace and apparently didn't get a good response. He told us the pro/manager was going out to speak with them. By the turn, we saw the course open up. We still waited a little bit on each tee, but a normal amount. We finished a bit later than we expected, but the second nine was very enjoyable.

It seems every time someone posts about pace of play, there is a post advising people to slow down, smell the roses, etc. With pace of play posted at 4:15 to 4:35, no one is racing around the course. That pace should be attainable for golfers of all skill levels, and would/should not result in slow play comments. Early in my golfing life, it was emphasized to me that you are not alone on a golf course. You are part of a large group and obligated to do your best to allow everyone on the course to enjoy their round. That doesn't mean you must rush around the course. It means that you need to be aware of where you stand in relation to other groups on the course and play without undue delay.

[er9027]

Either the tee times are to close...say less then 9 min. OR play is too slow
which I suspect. For Seniors you can allow a little more time but I say any round 5 hrs on an 18 hole course it TOO LONG...NEED A RANGER TO SPEED UP PLAY!!! IMHO ......FORE

[graciegirl]

Played Bonifay Monday and we were on a pace for a 3 hour nine holes. Always two groups on every tee. After seven holes, an ambassador came by and let us know that it wasn't the group in front of us or the one in front of them, but a group in front of that last group. He had spoken to them about picking up the pace and apparently didn't get a good response. He told us the pro/manager was going out to speak with them. By the turn, we saw the course open up. We still waited a little bit on each tee, but a normal amount. We finished a bit later than we expected, but the second nine was very enjoyable.

It seems every time someone posts about pace of play, there is a post advising people to slow down, smell the roses, etc. With pace of play posted at 4:15 to 4:35, no one is racing around the course. That pace should be attainable for golfers of all skill levels, and would/should not result in slow play comments. Early in my golfing life, it was emphasized to me that you are not alone on a golf course. You are part of a large group and obligated to do your best to allow everyone on the course to enjoy their round. That doesn't mean you must rush around the course. It means that you need to be aware of where you stand in relation to other groups on the course and play without undue delay.

Well said.

[hedoman]

We did Glenview in 3 1/2 hrs yesterday....I could NOT believe it!

[Deerfly]

Have played it once and pace was slow. Waited on almost every hole. Ambassador told us to "pick it up a little". This is after 15 holes of waiting for the group ahead of us. When we reacted surprised he said they were worried that groups behind us wouldn't finish because of darkness. Rookie ambassador!

[karostay]

I don't know about everyone else..When I golf it's to enjoy my time with friends
Not to play speed golf. I enjoy my round.The villages has over 9000 tee times a day. Expecting a fast round of golf less than 4 hours is out of the question.
Just my view

[golf2140]

It's that time of year. :spoken:

[Jim Straz]

I don't know about everyone else..When I golf it's to enjoy my time with friends
Not to play speed golf. I enjoy my round.The villages has over 9000 tee times a day. Expecting a fast round of golf less than 4 hours is out of the question.
Just my view
I agree!

[ajbrown]

I don't know about everyone else..When I golf it's to enjoy my time with friends
Not to play speed golf. I enjoy my round.The villages has over 9000 tee times a day. Expecting a fast round of golf less than 4 hours is out of the question.
Just my view

I agree about it is hard to play in under 4 hours ussually, although there are some days when no on is in front of you when you can fly. As an example, last week our foursome had a the last tee time of the morning wave at Palmer. Did not see a sole in front of us or behind us for most of the day. Our own private CC and we leisurely played without rushing in 3:50.

I do however feel strongly that people that cannot play in the alloted time posted for each course ruin the day for all that follow and need to be addressed so they understand this is NOT acceptable. BTW, the allotted time for Bonifay is 4 hours and 17 minutes. I think the ambassadors should be given more authority and more training to keep a course playing under the alloted time.

If I were in charge I would consider tracking IDs versus time or versus warnings issued to look for trends. :evil6:

[Pturner]

As Mikeod stated well, golf etiquette requires that golfers to keep pace with the group ahead of them. I too golf to enjoy the game, the outdoors and the company of friends. That doesn't give me the right to slow down the course for everyone behind me.

Knowing and following golf's rules of etiquette actually makes golf more enjoyable; and it's something all of us can do, regardless of skill level.

I'm not a good golfer, but at least I'm a good sport.

[stevep]

It should take no longer then 4 hours for a round of golf..
We are all getting older, time is running out.
We need to start moving faster not slower!!!!

[PJOHNS2654]

As Mikeod stated well, golf etiquette requires that golfers to keep pace with the group ahead of them. I too golf to enjoy the game, the outdoors and the company of friends. That doesn't give me the right to slow down the course for everyone behind me.

Knowing and following golf's rules of etiquette actually makes golf more enjoyable; and it's something all of us can do, regardless of skill level.

I'm not a good golfer, but at least I'm a good sport.

:cus:
I have observed that too many golfers don't know how to play ready golf. Drop your playing partner at his ball and go to your ball, play your shot and then pick up your partner. You don't need to wait untill it is your turn if your in the left rough and another player is in the right rough but a few yards further from the green.

[John_W]

I don't know about everyone else..When I golf it's to enjoy my time with friends
Not to play speed golf. I enjoy my round.The villages has over 9000 tee times a day. Expecting a fast round of golf less than 4 hours is out of the question.
Just my view

You're right, with that attitude we should never expect to play in under five hours. Maybe some people should only play executive golf courses. Just my view

[Deerfly]

You're right karostay except that over four and one half hours is unreasonable.

[buckscounty]

You are someone I would not want to be behind on a golf course. If you can't play in 4 hrs. and 15 mins, you should not be out there.

[Mudder]

that's pretty harsh, bucks county.

[SgtJohn]

I thought we were suppose to be relaxing, and enjoying ourselves, our friends and the scenery. I do play quicker, but I would not get my knickers in a wad if a group in front of me were having their difficulties. They are trying their best, and loving life. That's great for them.

[Mikeod]

I thought we were suppose to be relaxing, and enjoying ourselves, our friends and the scenery. I do play quicker, but I would not get my knickers in a wad if a group in front of me were having their difficulties. They are trying their best, and loving life. That's great for them.
No problem with people trying their best. A round of golf is not primarily a social event. It is a sport with opportunities to enjoy each others' company during the round when waiting for the fairway or green to clear. All that is required is to be ready to play when those are clear. That way everyone else on the course can enjoy the round as well, both from a golfing aspect and a conviviality aspect.

In my experience, slow play is less likely to be caused by skill level, than other factors. I have played with people who may shoot in triple figures, but don't dawdle over a shot and recognize that they may be taking longer to complete a hole than standard. They are ready to play when it's their turn and they use tees appropriate to their skill level.

On the other hand, I have played behind "good" golfers who were never ready to play, took inordinate amounts of time to choose a club, took an incredible number of practice swings both before and after the shot, and elected to replay a putt a few times before leaving the green.

I don't think anyone minds waiting a few minutes on a tee while the group in front hits their shots or putts. But when you get to a tee and there are already two groups waiting to play, something is wrong.

[graciegirl]

No problem with people trying their best. A round of golf is not primarily a social event. It is a sport with opportunities to enjoy each others' company during the round when waiting for the fairway or green to clear. All that is required is to be ready to play when those are clear. That way everyone else on the course can enjoy the round as well, both from a golfing aspect and a conviviality aspect.

In my experience, slow play is less likely to be caused by skill level, than other factors. I have played with people who may shoot in triple figures, but don't dawdle over a shot and recognize that they may be taking longer to complete a hole than standard. They are ready to play when it's their turn and they use tees appropriate to their skill level.

On the other hand, I have played behind "good" golfers who were never ready to play, took inordinate amounts of time to choose a club, took an incredible number of practice swings both before and after the shot, and elected to replay a putt a few times before leaving the green.

I don't think anyone minds waiting a few minutes on a tee while the group in front hits their shots or putts. But when you get to a tee and there are already two groups waiting to play, something is wrong.




You are so right again, Mikeod, in my very humble opinion of not playing very good golf but playing a LOT of golf for forty years.

Only part of the trouble I suspect are people who are beginners to golf or haven't played much private club golf and haven't been exposed to the expectations of etiquette on the course in a golf community. It isn't harsh Mudder. It is really just what PTurner said. It is nice manners and thinking about all of the folks out there who are moving along in one big wave. If you are taking mulligans and too many practice swings and chatting too much and changing clubs after you address the ball and not keeping your cart and golf club ready for your next shot and watching your ball and the shots of your foursome...then you are holding someone back. These are ageless timeless expectations of the ladies and gentlemen who play this silly and addictive game.