More Jewelry Taken

[Figmo Bohica]

In the Sun News todays edition, another story about stolen jewelry. More care needs to be taken.

[graciegirl]

This time it was $20,000 worth of jewelry in Woodbury on the 17200 block of Lee Avenue. Taken during the day when the couple was gone. Sometime between January 8 and January 14, the slider latch was pried. The couple said they had a rod in the slider but it would allow it to open a small way. Does anyone know if that Village is close to the other two? I can't find my map but I seem to remember that Woodbury was north of 466 and on the west side off Buena Vista and that would be near the other two. The other two were just a short distance from each other and they happened during the day when the couple was away from home.

Here I am starting a rumor. Steve, or someone that lives up that way, Pturner, Buggy? Is Woodbury close to the other two which I do recall were north of the Savannah center.

[chuckinca]

Woodbury is East of Buena Vista Blvd.

East of the Village of Briar Meadow and North of the Village of Springdale.
It is the furthest village at the Northeast edge of TV.

http://thevillages4rent.com/maps/


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[graciegirl]

Woodbury is East of Buena Vista Blvd.

East of the Village of Briar Meadow and North of the Village of Springdale.
It is the furthest village at the Northeast edge of TV.

http://thevillages4rent.com/maps/


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Thank you for the map. It is in the NorthWEST section of TV not too far from the other two.

The other two were also off Buena Vista and north of El Camino Real.

Are all three done by the same perps? Seems like they could be.

I watch too many detective shows on TV.

[texasfal]

Just goes to show the old stick in the slider will not stop the crooks.

[bkcunningham1]

I'm not a detective and I don't know anything more about the cases than what was reported in the Daily Sun from the police blotters. But, doesn't it seem strange that there is a breaking and entering into a residence and only jewelry is taken? IMHO, if it is a legit burglary, it would seem most likely to be someone who has been in the house and knows there is valuable jewelry inside. A contractor or a cleaning person perhaps?

[bkcunningham1]

*whispers* Grace, the Daily Sun "Law Enforcement Briefs" said, "A Village of Woodbury couple reported the theft Saturday of jewelry valued at more than $12,000 from their home, according to Marion County Sheriff's Office Records. ... The couple told the police that sometime between Jan. 8 and Saturday, an unidentified suspect forcible entered through a rear sliding-glass door leading to their bedroom and stole jewelry valued at about
$12,280, including a $9,000 diamond ring , from the home, the incident report states..."

Not in addition to; including. I thought the same thing you did when I read the info. But it was approximately $12,000, not $20,000.

[buggyone]

I think that bkcunninghamI is definitely on the right track. You would think the police would be trying to piece together if the 3 people who had jewelry stolen had common elements such as a cleaning person or had used the same repair people who might have had access to a bedroom. The burglar(s) also knew when the homeowners were going to be gone.

A diamond ring worth $9,000 is a lot of ring! Wouldn't that be stored in a safe deposit box? If my wife had a ring like that (fat chance on my pension), I would think about a wall safe or even one of those lockboxes that looks like an ordinary book and you put it in with others on your bookshelf, or some other disguised hiding place.

Bottom line is to make sure the house is locked tight when you leave, hide expensive jewelry in a well disguised hiding place, DO NOT let workers alone in parts of your home (follow them wherever they go) and if they have used the bathroom - check right afterward to see if your prescriptions are still there and they have not unlocked a bathroom or bedroom window for access when you are not home.

[Army Guy]

When wife and I read that we were thinking, and THEY JUST REPORTED IT NOW????
Something very fishy about it, or as Arsino use to say, "Things that make you say, Hmmmmmm"

Also for those wondering how to better secure there patio doors. At Market of Marion there was either a Kisok or booth that had info on these special latches you can have installed on them. We got them and they work GREAT! It is two pieces one goes on each side of the slide door frame and is about 6 inches by 2 inches. They use metal rods that slide in and out of a sleeve place on the opposite side of the casing from the rods. Quick and easy to use, and prevents sliding of the door AND lifting from track. HIGHLY recommend!

Army Guy

[jackz]

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[Army Guy]

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[Bill-n-Brillo]

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[bkcunningham1]

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[downeaster]

I think that bkcunninghamI is definitely on the right track. You would think the police would be trying to piece together if the 3 people who had jewelry stolen had common elements such as a cleaning person or had used the same repair people who might have had access to a bedroom. The burglar(s) also knew when the homeowners were going to be gone.

A diamond ring worth $9,000 is a lot of ring! Wouldn't that be stored in a safe deposit box? If my wife had a ring like that (fat chance on my pension), I would think about a wall safe or even one of those lockboxes that looks like an ordinary book and you put it in with others on your bookshelf, or some other disguised hiding place.

Bottom line is to make sure the house is locked tight when you leave, hide expensive jewelry in a well disguised hiding place, DO NOT let workers alone in parts of your home (follow them wherever they go) and if they have used the bathroom - check right afterward to see if your prescriptions are still there and they have not unlocked a bathroom or bedroom window for access when you are not home.

My guess is the police are fitting the pieces together. I think the similarities and locations of the events give them plenty to work on.

We have a bank safe deposit box and keep nothing of value in the house.

[NotGolfer]

The common thread element....the police will investigate and I believe find the "perps". Thieves always think they're smart but in reality are not. Someone has had to have seen them if it's happening in the daytime. It's sad however that folks have lost something valuable, along with that, piece of mind!! Violation of personal property is huge!!!!

My thought also went to...what about someone these folks had appointments with?? I think alot of people are too free with information, talking about trips etc. with people they barely know.

[Happinow]

This is exactly why we will have a home security system installed. They won't get one foot in our home without the sirens blaring! (Sorry neighbors)

[The Shadow]

In the eyes of this profiler the bad guy knows exactly what he is after, his present in the neighborhood goes unnoticed, he knows under what circumstances the jewelry will be in the residence like when owner swims, golfs and such. How long and at what time the home owner indulges in said activities.

The bad guy lives in the neighborhood and goes to neighborhood parties, he talks to everyone and his wife admires everyone�s jewelry at the party.

[graciegirl]

In the eyes of this profiler the bad guy knows exactly what he is after, his present in the neighborhood goes unnoticed, he knows under what circumstances the jewelry will be in the residence like when owner swims, golfs and such. How long and at what time the home owner indulges in said activities.

The bad guy lives in the neighborhood and goes to neighborhood parties, he talks to everyone and his wife admires everyone�s jewelry at the party.

I don't disagree, but it could be a house cleaner or a trades person who has a bad boyfriend. It isn't me ever whose jewelry is admired. I am not fond of jewelry. I wear what I own of value. I think a safety deposit box is a VERY good idea. I may put my best dutch oven in one.

[brostholder]

If you have valuable jewelry I would recommend that you insure it. The best place I have found is Jewelry Mutual and you can access them on-line at www.jewelersmutual.com. Easy to get an on-line quote.

[rubicon]

If jewlery was all that was stolen then it is likely that the thief(s) know the difference between expensive and inexpensive jewlery, it is their only interest and also have an outlet to unload their spoils.

I don't keep anything of value in my home, except my wife.;)

[Figmo Bohica]

This is exactly why we will have a home security system installed. They won't get one foot in our home without the sirens blaring! (Sorry neighbors)

If you have enough stuff that is that valuable and a thief wants it, a home security system will not stop him. They can all be by passed and if its worth the time to by pass they will. Alarms are like locks, they only keep the not quit honest, honest.

[Happinow]

Figmo, I have to disagree with you on the alarm system. Our business in Upstate was broken into last summer while we were away for a weekend. They were sophisticated.....sawed through the roof. They had a rope and repelled up the building and onto the roof. The minute the roof tiles fell the alarm fell and his feet didn't even hit the ground and the sirens were going off! He put holes in the wall scrambling back up the wall to get out and got away with.....well....NOTHING!!! So, I will certainly have a top of the line security system in my home and I'll bet if the thieves know that our home is secure, they will move on to one that's an easier target. That's my personal experience with security systems.

[Annabelle]

Common sense would dictate that in today�s market, with the high price of gold, jewelry (gold, diamonds, etc) would be a much more lucrative item to steal than large electronic equipment (television, etc).

Furthermore, why should the criminal be a �contractor� or a �cleaning person?� For a refreshing change of pace there are two groups of people often over-looked on this forum when �speculating� as to the identity of the culprit.

First, there are young adults residing in TV with their parents. Perhaps some of these kids are unemployed and have too much time on their hands and/or their parents are not giving them enough spending money.

Second, there are a very large number of �rentals� in TV. Many of these �vacation� homes are advertised as �sleeping 4, 6 ( even 8) people with ONLY ONE PERSON MUST BE OVER AGE 55. What a perfect opportunity for thieves to be able to survey their neighbor�s daily schedules �up close and personal.� Perhaps some of the reports of furniture (etc) stolen were actually taken from these rental properties.

To assume that a robber must have �knowledge� that expensive jewelry is kept in one�s home shows little knowledge of how and why robbers target some homes and not others. Yes, at times a robbery is committed by someone who has previously visited a home. On the other hand, there are many home invasions whereby a robber has never set foot in the home prior to the robbery and is a complete stranger to the homeowner.

Whether we like it or not, seniors are considered an easy target by just about everyone, except some seniors. I agree wholeheartedly with those who recommend keeping their jewelry in a bank and having an alarm system. And if you chose to keep your jewelry in your home, take photos of each piece and as was suggested have it appraised.

Regardless of whether it�s �The Case of the Vanishing Jewelry, Golf Carts, or Clubs,� I am truly sorry for the victims of these crimes and do hope that members of TOTV will continue to alert their neighbors, so they may take the appropriate measures that will ensure their personal safety.

Annabelle

[Figmo Bohica]

Happinow, all alarm systmes can be by passed no matter how good. Those that hit you were amatures not professionals. Pro go for the big things amatures go for whatever and make lots of mistakes. If a man built it another man can defeat it. Murphy's Law.

Annabelle, you are correct. As the economy gets worse and as the news said today, by summer gas will be $5.00 a gallon, you can expect more of this type of activity. Though TV is a relatively safe area, you are correct in the senior thing. We must be watchful and look out for each other and those that live around us. I will watch out for you and you watch out for me.

[Annabelle]

"Annabelle, you are correct. As the economy gets worse and as the news said today, by summer gas will be $5.00 a gallon, you can expect more of this type of activity. Though TV is a relatively safe area, you are correct in the senior thing. We must be watchful and look out for each other and those that live around us. I will watch out for you and you watch out for me."

Figmo,
Hey, I've got your back boy!!!!

Annabelle

[CarGuys]

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[CarGuys]

Happinow, all alarm systmes can be by passed no matter how good. Those that hit you were amatures not professionals. Pro go for the big things amatures go for whatever and make lots of mistakes. If a man built it another man can defeat it. Murphy's Law.

Annabelle, you are correct. As the economy gets worse and as the news said today, by summer gas will be $5.00 a gallon, you can expect more of this type of activity. Though TV is a relatively safe area, you are correct in the senior thing. We must be watchful and look out for each other and those that live around us. I will watch out for you and you watch out for me.

Got in Alarms went off they cut power to the home and battery backup. Internet. Made off with the valuables. The security company just said Oh well they were good!

[graciegirl]

WE ARE the biggest neighborhood watch of anywhere in the world, I would guess.

On another thread this morning, the one about the vacuum cleaner, I have asked Advisor if anything new has been found. He/she said that he/she is the home that was burglarized last week. We are all interested to hear what if anything has been learned.

I think that these break ins are possibly someone, maybe younger, who lives in that specific area with their parents, and needs to feed a drug habit. I feel that this is gonna be solved.

I think security cameras on houses are much better deterrents than security systems inside. I think we are catching more crooks because we catch them on camera. You never know these days who is taking your picture.

Are you reading this, you ugly, nasty, yellow bellied crooks???????

[bkcunningham1]

If we are throwing out thoughts just for discussion without any real facts to back up our words; the first thing I thought of in both cases were fraud. Times are tough and perhaps the homeowners thought reporting a burglary (supposedly days after the fact) and making a $12,000-plus insurance claim would be an easy and quick way to make a few buck.

[paulandjean]

Maybe the dog had something to do with it.

[memason]

If we are throwing out thoughts just for discussion without any real facts to back up our words; the first thing I thought of in both cases were fraud. Times are tough and perhaps the homeowners thought reporting a burglary (supposedly days after the fact) and making a $12,000-plus insurance claim would be an easy and quick way to make a few buck.

I have a close relative in the insurance business, as a claims investigator. The scenario you describe is highly plausible . . . :undecided:

[Happinow]

Like Gracie said, we are neighborhood watch communities and neighbors should look out for neighbors. After a while, you get use to how your neighbors live and know if the garage door is open or windows are open there may be a problem. We are very security minded. I think even if someone gets into the home and doesn't have to chance to steel anything it's certainly better than getting away with something. It's such an invasion of privacy and creepy knowing someone has entered your home. We can only do our best to outsmart the thieves. Put in motion lights and keep doors and garage door secured at all times, even if your home. Lets all stay one step ahead of them.

[The Shadow]

Got in Alarms went off they cut power to the home and battery backup. Internet. Made off with the valuables. The security company just said Oh well they were good!

No, no, no you have to enter the home to cut the battery backup power. In the process of entering the home or in the process of looking for the backup power the alarm will sound. The second obstacle is the backup power is enclosed in a box, you must open the box to cut the power. I can not even open the box on my alarm without it going off. Many alarm devices have tamper switches open the device and even if the alarm is not armed it will sound.

[mrfixit]

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Many alarm devices have TAMPER SWITCHES ... open the device and even if the alarm is not armed it will sound.

.....You are correct........I also heard it called a "dead-man".

..The alarm guy said "....if you mess with that again....You are a Dead-Man".

.....actually that would be a "Dead-BROKE-Man"......That service call ...$$$..OUCH.

Nothing of monetary value in this household anyway...
.......NEVER could afford jewelry.....or much of anything extra.
.......why would I even need an alarm system?
>>>don't answer that....I DO know why???

[CarGuys]

WE ARE the biggest neighborhood watch of anywhere in the world, I would guess.


I think security cameras on houses are much better deterrents than security systems inside. I think we are catching more crooks because we catch them on camera. You never know these days who is taking your picture.

Are you reading this, you ugly, nasty, yellow bellied crooks???????

Our school was having lockers broke into tobacco chew spit on the walls and floors. Hall ways keyed and doors scratched. Depris throw up into the ceilings.

Toilets uriniated on and deficated on. Mirrors ripped of the wall sinks busted, Smoke filled bathrooms

When we as a collective staff asked the Super for cameras and help we heard NO! It is their RIGHT! to not be video taped or a pic taken.

Aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! This county is in deep do do! Kids taking over from adults.

Go get em Grace!
YOU GO GIRL! YEA Gracie

[rubicon]

Well we certainly are not short of Charlie Chans here in The Villages.

[bkcunningham1]

Well we certainly are not short of Charlie Chans here in The Villages.

"Ancient ancestor once say, accidents can happen, if planned that way," Charlie Chan.

[Posh 08]

No, no, no you have to enter the home to cut the battery backup power. In the process of entering the home or in the process of looking for the backup power the alarm will sound. The second obstacle is the backup power is enclosed in a box, you must open the box to cut the power. I can not even open the box on my alarm without it going off. Many alarm devices have tamper switches open the device and even if the alarm is not armed it will sound.

:thumbup:

[Happinow]

I don't have much "stuff" to protect either but it's such an invasion of privacy that I don't want anyone pawing through my things looking for something that isn't there. You,d probably never feel the same about your home once someone riffled through it. Yuck!

[jackz]

If you have enough stuff that is that valuable and a thief wants it, a home security system will not stop him. They can all be by passed and if its worth the time to by pass they will. Alarms are like locks, they only keep the not quit honest, honest.

Maybe this sign on your lawn will deter would be burglars:

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