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Guest
01-21-2012, 08:36 PM
The Obama Team is jumping for joy now that Gingrich won in South Carolina. They know he is unelectable due to the negative ads that can be created over his philandering ways (that is tom-cattin' around, to you Republicans) and being tossed out of his position as Speaker of the House by his own party and being fined $300,000 for ethics violations. He also caused the Federal government to be shut down twice that ended up costing untold millions of dollars because we Federal workers got paid for every day we were sitting at home while on furlough.

When are we going to get to see the $1.5 million dollar report that Newt wrote for Freddie Mac?:boxing2:

Guest
01-21-2012, 09:01 PM
If you're a Democrat, this is just too good to be true .....

Guest
01-21-2012, 09:04 PM
The Obama Team is jumping for joy now that Gingrich won in South Carolina. They know he is unelectable due to the negative ads that can be created over his philandering ways (that is tom-cattin' around, to you Republicans) and being tossed out of his position as Speaker of the House by his own party and being fined $300,000 for ethics violations. He also caused the Federal government to be shut down twice that ended up costing untold millions of dollars because we Federal workers got paid for every day we were sitting at home while on furlough.

When are we going to get to see the $1.5 million dollar report that Newt wrote for Freddie Mac?:boxing2:

Negative ads that can be created? Who cares?!?! People already know about Newt and it's people who watch all these debates, talk show interviews, read the papers, and then cast their vote.

If there was one thing that pushed Gingrich to the front, it's the low-class tactic of CNN's John King starting a presidential debate with gossip about a candidate's low-class behavior in the past.

They never started an '08 Democrat debate by questioning Hillary Clinton on how Bill's low-class behavior with Lewinsky affected her ability to run the West Wing right.

Their flagrant BIAS is what voters reacted to by propelling Gingrich to the front. People see thru the campaign ads that 24-hour news networks' talking heads produce for free......in the "news" and "debates".

Guest
01-21-2012, 09:07 PM
Celebratory gunfire coming from the white house.

Guest
01-21-2012, 09:42 PM
Right, Obama and his cronies (aka mainstream media) have been doing everything in their power to get Romney nominated because they think they have a strategy that can beat him. Believe me, Newt winning SC tonight scares the Obama reelection team.

Guest
01-21-2012, 11:34 PM
I glad you liberals are happy. it warms my heart.

Americans will never vote out the architect of our nation's decline and vote for Newt instead. Nothing Newt is saying is resonating with the American people and so......you're worry free.

Now, all of you can switch on Bill Maher's latest show and chill out.

Guest
01-22-2012, 01:36 AM
If there was one thing that pushed Gingrich to the front, it's the low-class tactic of CNN's John King starting a presidential debate with gossip about a candidate's low-class behavior in the past.

Their flagrant BIAS is what voters reacted to by propelling Gingrich to the front. People see thru the campaign ads that 24-hour news networks' talking heads produce for free......in the "news" and "debates".

CNN's rude first question allowed Gingrich a beautiful opportunity to "take the moral Highroad" about the indignities and lack of privacy he was encountering. And a lot of the audience bought into it. Gingrich is a real feisty street fighter.

I think Mitch will be a lot more aggressive in future debates and/or speeches.

Guest
01-22-2012, 03:17 AM
Well, I for one am happy and not in a sarcastic way. Mitt has been my choice from the start, but for sure, Newt has been a favorite of mine also. From the beginning I have been very critical of several of the GOP folks running, but since most have obviously agreed with me and we are down to the two that can beat Obama, I am truly happy. Either one will have my vote. Mitt is my first choice, but Newt has the debating ability to knock Obama out of the park with raw truth. You hard left and hard right folks need be aware that most Americans are in the middle and really don't care what party a man comes from, they want a leader to get the world moving forward again. Newt, even over my first choice Romney has what it takes to get that message across to the middle of the road voters and they will decide this election. A lot of folks thought that Santorum would be hot in South Carolina being a very Christian state. WATCH OUT FOR THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD VOTERS.

Guest
01-22-2012, 10:02 AM
last time I checked the state of SC was not the deciding factor in a voting victory.
All it shows is that the religious groups in SC were voting against Romney.
It also shows Romney has the greater total of delegates.
Getting all excited about a Newt lead at this point is like being all excited about your team being ahead in score during the 1st quarter of the game.

It is a point in time; nothing more.:icon_bored:

btk

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01-22-2012, 10:12 AM
There's a long way to go in the primaries but it doesn't matter who wins. Obama is a failed presadent and will loose this Nov.

The American people are going to throw him out no matter how much the liberals spin and whine and smear. Obama and his administration are the poster child of failed policies. All but the Obama Kool Aid drinkers know this... or maybe they do know and just don't care.

Guest
01-22-2012, 11:28 AM
Celebratory gunfire coming from the white house.

OHH; you liberals and your VIOLENT imagery. What would Gabrielle Giffords say?

Guest
01-22-2012, 11:49 AM
Liquor sales are way up in DC with champaign being delivered to Nancy Pelosi's office and hard liquor being delivered to the republican establishment.

Guest
01-22-2012, 11:50 AM
It will be fun to watch the lefties this year spin, whine, defame, lie and smear only to see their anointed one go down in a crushing defeat. Now that's entertainment.

Guest
01-22-2012, 12:03 PM
OHH; you liberals and your VIOLENT imagery. What would Gabrielle Giffords say?

That was low...even for you. :cus:

Guest
01-22-2012, 12:19 PM
That was low...even for you. :cus:

It was sarcasm. The Gifford's shooting was blamed on Republican use of "violent imagery" and it seemed a perfect illustration here to point out how easy it is to do this.

I think you were in on the "Palin bashing" back then. Sorry if the reminder of it is painful.

Guest
01-22-2012, 12:27 PM
It will be fun to watch the lefties this year spin, whine, defame, lie and smear only to see their anointed one go down in a crushing defeat. Now that's entertainment.

Remember when ABC News anchor Peter Jennings famously declared that the voters had a "temper tantrum" when they handed then President Bill Clinton a smashing rebuke 2 years into his term by throwing out enough Democrats and electing enough Republicans to reward both Houses to the Republicans?

This put (OMG) Newt Gingrich on the map as the majority leader in which he shaped the recovery of our economy with a newly contrite President who recognized the winds of change. (Yes, yes, welfare reform, now I get it Newt; OK let's go with it!!)

History has a way of repeating itself when one forgets it's lessons.

Guest
01-22-2012, 01:02 PM
Well folks again better than 40% of SC evangelicals and women voters voted for Newt. This in spite of the fact that the ex-governor (Sanford's) wife made sure everyone knew she was voting for Mitt.

Repeal of ObamaCare is high on my list and Romney won't repeal it and he won't admit RomneyCare was a failed experiment. He is in my preception a RINO and apparently others. Florida will be a real test. Irrespective of who wins the primary my next vote is for the republican candidate.

Finally I do wish we had better choices but the reality is that we don't. Its like when I use to interview had to pick the best candidate from a bad lot. But it could be worse, I mean the Democrats have only one candidate and he's really bad!

Guest
01-22-2012, 01:26 PM
Rubicon, specifically what is it about "Obamacare" that you really do not like? Is it that up to 32 million uninsured Americans will be able to get health insurance?

Ever since I had my first job, I took out health insurance just in case I needed it. I think everyone should have health insurance. Didn't you buy health insurance at your first option?

Do you not like the fact insurance companies will have to insure those with pre-existing conditions?

By the way, repeal of a Federal law is not possible with an Executive Order. It is a long Congressional process and would probably fail in this case.

Guest
01-22-2012, 01:27 PM
I don't think the first 3 states' results are all that indicative of a predicted winner of the nomination. In the other 3 states that already voted, anyone including Obama fans can go in and vote on the Republican primary ticket.

"Unlike the other early-vote states, Florida’s primary is closed meaning that only Republicans can cast ballots.

“We actually have Republicans choosing the Republican nominees,” said Brian Hughes, a veteran political operative and current Republican Party of Florida spokesman.

“A Cuban-American voter in South Florida and a Dixiecrat party switcher are vastly different people,” Hughes said. To be successful, the candidates have to communicate to them across 10 media markets and the vast geography of Florida while competing for more than 2 million votes. So winning that contest — winning Florida — means something.”

But even if Gingrich won Florida — and that’s a big if, considering Romney’s organization — his viability as a candidate who can go the distance is unclear. Gingrich’s name isn’t on ballots in some states such as Virginia.

That can be a killer for Gingrich and a plus for Romney if the election drags on because the nominee will ultimately be decided by the delegates won in each state’s election. It takes 1,144 to wrap up the nomination."

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/21/2601470_p2/newt-gingrich-stomps-mitt-romney.html

Guest
01-22-2012, 03:25 PM
Rubicon, specifically what is it about "Obamacare" that you really do not like? Is it that up to 32 million uninsured Americans will be able to get health insurance?

Ever since I had my first job, I took out health insurance just in case I needed it. I think everyone should have health insurance. Didn't you buy health insurance at your first option?

Do you not like the fact insurance companies will have to insure those with pre-existing conditions?

By the way, repeal of a Federal law is not possible with an Executive Order. It is a long Congressional process and would probably fail in this case.

Hey buggyone: To start with ObamaCare will afford the government control of one sixth of our economy. It will increase the government agencies and hence payroll. In just three years Obama has increased government employment by over 13% while the rest of America is negative 17%.

ObamaCare is RomneyCare on steroids. RomneyCare has created higher insurance premiums, more people uninsured and created a backlog of services. It taks 48 days o get an appoint with a family doctor. Family doctors byt the way that stopped taking on new patients.

IMHO we need only to allow health carriers to compete across state lines
and let the market take its course. Liberals sem to be upset regarding their freedoms under the Patriot Act but not so concerned regarding the individual mandate which by law directly removes their right to decide, a right they claim they are entitled to under the cover of Roe v Wade.

ObamaCare in essence is one more policy allowing Obama to move toward a european Style government...and we know how that worked out for them

there is not a perfect health system but we by far have done exceedlingly better than just about any other nation. Let's not fix something that ain't broke and ony needs a little adjusting. That is my position and no doubt you will differ in yours...I certainly am open to listen to your thoughts

Personal Best Regards

Rubicon
An Insurance Guy

Guest
01-22-2012, 03:49 PM
Rubicon-Might I respectfully add?
If there truly are in fact 32 million uninsured Americans, why didn't he just address them? It has been implied that these 32 million are folks who are just above the poverty level, working jobs where healthcare is either not offered or they cannot afford their portion of the premium cost, and yet making too much money to qualify for Medicaid. Why then, not lower the requirement standards of Medicaid to encompass these folks...? Obamacare is one of the greatest bait and switch con jobs of all time!

Guest
01-22-2012, 04:56 PM
To get back to the subject at hand, and that’s the subject of Newt Gingrich’s big S.C. primary victory. The liberals here would like you to believe they’re gleeful at this happenstance, and maybe they are. I’d be wary of thinking along this line if I were them, but it disturbs me none.

Newt Gingrich will be able to handle any scripted Obama debate attack against him in his usual eloquent easy to understand style, while at the same time he throws the gauntlet back at Obama’s feet. This might be hard for Obama to handle in an impromptu manner as has been evidenced in the past when he has to adlib. (uuuhhhhh, aaahhhhh, eerrrr, uuuummm)

Romney is not quite as adept at spontaneously defending himself, and often is too ready to concede a point, giving his opposition great soundbites which he then has to defend also leading to awkward moments.

I don't think Obama is chomping on the bit to debate Gingrich. In fact, it might be the first time a president has refused to debate if Gingrich is indeed the eventual winner.

Right now it is Gingrich who is saying what the electorate has been waiting to hear, and in his inimitable way, of conveying that he both understands the probem and is confident in the way to confront it.

The liberal media is blowing it big time. If that’s where you liberals are getting your news, it’s no wonder your thinking is skewed. In S.C. 54% of those who voted had a favorable opinion on Gingrich while 14% had a favorable opinion on the media.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gingrich-beats-media-south-carolina-54-14

Guest
01-22-2012, 05:50 PM
SC conservatives do NOT reflect the electorate in any way whatsoever.

Mitt will be the nominee.

Guest
01-22-2012, 06:09 PM
Here are the thoughts of one, and only one, independent voter. I will very likely vote for Romney if he is the republican nominee. I would not be likely to vote for Santorum, though I would be willing to read more about him and listen to his case. Newt is an absolute non-starter for me (please note - FOR ME), and I would consider a Ron Paul third party candidate if newt is the nominee. Newt does not, in my opinion, possess the necessary moral or ethical character to be POTUS. I simply cannot imagine a president who was censured, disgraced, and run out of the congress, by his peers, including most republicans. By the way, gingrich has never won even a statewide election.

I have friends of both right and left leanings as well as others who self-identify as independents. My unscientific, no link FEELING is that some democrats and most independents would vote for Romney, while few democrats and independents would vote for Newt. It seems unlikely in that event, that newt could prevail in the general. Again, this is personal opinion and may be entirely wrong, but my insticts have been pretty good in the past, for example when I predicted an Obama victory the moment after watching McCain name Pallin as his running mate.

Guest
01-22-2012, 06:10 PM
SC conservatives do NOT reflect the electorate in any way whatsoever.

Mitt will be the nominee.

Glad to have your cogent analysis. The points you make are well worth reviewing.

Guest
01-22-2012, 06:12 PM
Here are the thoughts of one, and only one, independent voter. I will very likely vote for Romney if he is the republican nominee. I would not be likely to vote for Santorum, though I would be willing to read more about him and listen to his case. Newt is an absolute non-starter for me (please note - FOR ME), and I would consider a Ron Paul third party candidate if newt is the nominee. Newt does not, in my opinion, possess the necessary moral or ethical character to be POTUS. I simply cannot imagine a president who was censured, disgraced, and run out of the congress, by his peers, including most republicans. By the way, gingrich has never won even a statewide election.

I have friends of both right and left leanings as well as others who self-identify as independents. My unscientific, no link FEELING is that some democrats and most independents would vote for Romney, while few democrats and independents would vote for Newt. It seems unlikely in that event, that newt could prevail in the general. Again, this is personal opinion and may be entirely wrong, but my insticts have been pretty good in the past, for example when I predicted an Obama victory the moment after watching McCain name Pallin as his running mate.

Really?; the "moment" Palin was named? yeah.......ok.

Guest
01-22-2012, 08:16 PM
Really?; the "moment" Palin was named? yeah.......ok.

That would be hurtful, if I valued your opinion.

Guest
01-22-2012, 08:27 PM
I think McPain would have lost by a lot more if he hadn't picked Palin.

Guest
01-22-2012, 09:03 PM
I would not agree with Eweissenbach about it being "the moment" that Snowshoe Sarah was named as VP Candidate. For me, it took at least 30 seconds. I had to carefully survey all possibilities and that took 10 seconds and then I had to open the bottle of ice-cold Yeungling for another 20 seconds.:popcorn:

Guest
01-22-2012, 10:51 PM
That would be hurtful, if I valued your opinion.

I would not agree with Eweissenbach about it being "the moment" that Snowshoe Sarah was named as VP Candidate. For me, it took at least 30 seconds. I had to carefully survey all possibilities and that took 10 seconds and then I had to open the bottle of ice-cold Yeungling for another 20 seconds.:popcorn:

You're both full of it because until that moment when she was picked Sarah Palin was the liberal media's darling due to her role as governor of Alaska of going after the corrupt Republican politicians in her state and going after the oil companies and their money.

When she was picked McCain's numbers jumped through the ceiling, and it was at that point that the liberal media went in their attack dog mode and sent an unprecedented search and destroy team to Alaska to dig up anything and anyone to destroy the popular Ms. Palin.

You guys are rewriting your history for your own aggrandizement, and I ain't buying any of it. You guys must have some great fish stories also.

Guest
01-23-2012, 03:50 AM
Well, I also was bug eyed stunned when she was selected as VP running mate. I was on board with McCain until then. I voted for Obama. I am sure I will be called a liar, but as I live and breath, that was the first time I voted for a democrat in my life time. She hit the stage as a goofy, self righteous fool. Sorry if that offends anyone, but it is how I feel about her.

Guest
01-23-2012, 07:02 AM
Everytime I see Romney, I see "Timid", "Easily Rattled", and "Michael Scott of the Office".

Any Republican is going to have to deal with a negative/Obama supporting Media, Alinsky style tactics, and Obama illegally using taxpayer funded teleprompter campaigning disguised as Presidential speaking stops.

Newt is the ONLY candidate who will be able to counter it, and one who is articulate enough to handle it. I also liked his pledge to follow within 48 hours every Obama speaking stop, and to refute everyone of his puppet master teleprompter read, error riddled, Hollywood produced style of community organizing.

Early Voting on Tuesday for Newt.

Guest
01-23-2012, 07:16 AM
Everytime I see Romney, I see "Timid", "Easily Rattled", and "Michael Scott of the Office".

Any Republican is going to have to deal with a negative/Obama supporting Media, Alinsky style tactics, and Obama illegally using taxpayer funded teleprompter campaigning disguised as Presidential speaking stops.

Newt is the ONLY candidate who will be able to counter it, and one who is articulate enough to handle it. I also liked his pledge to follow within 48 hours every Obama speaking stop, and to refute everyone of his puppet master teleprompter read, error riddled, Hollywood produced style of community organizing.

Early Voting on Tuesday for Newt.

You have something there and although I am first for Romney, the average evangelical is more likely to vote for a Christian with infidelity, and Newts other issues before voting for a Mormon cultist. I am OK with both of them.

Guest
01-23-2012, 10:05 AM
Well, I also was bug eyed stunned when she was selected as VP running mate. I was on board with McCain until then. I voted for Obama. I am sure I will be called a liar, but as I live and breath, that was the first time I voted for a democrat in my life time. She hit the stage as a goofy, self righteous fool. Sorry if that offends anyone, but it is how I feel about her.

I know. The Republicans picked Palin while the astute Democrats picked the brilliant and humble and eloquent Joe Biden as their VP pick.

You'll never be embarrassed being a supporter of Biden.

Guest
01-23-2012, 10:32 AM
You're both full of it because until that moment when she was picked Sarah Palin was the liberal media's darling due to her role as governor of Alaska of going after the corrupt Republican politicians in her state and going after the oil companies and their money.

When she was picked McCain's numbers jumped through the ceiling, and it was at that point that the liberal media went in their attack dog mode and sent an unprecedented search and destroy team to Alaska to dig up anything and anyone to destroy the popular Ms. Palin.

You guys are rewriting your history for your own aggrandizement, and I ain't buying any of it. You guys must have some great fish stories also.

Now among your many other gifts, you are able to devine other peoples thoughts and precisely when they thought them. Give yourself another pat on the back!

Guest
01-23-2012, 11:01 AM
Now among your many other gifts, you are able to devine other peoples thoughts and precisely when they thought them. Give yourself another pat on the back!

Thanks for the recognition. Anytime you need to remember what it is you thought, ask me.

Guest
01-23-2012, 11:10 AM
Thanks for the recognition. Anytime you need to remember what it is you thought, ask me.

I like that response.

Guest
01-23-2012, 11:37 AM
If Newt Gingrich picks Rush Limbaugh for his running mate, together they'll have seven marriages.

Guest
01-23-2012, 12:51 PM
If Newt Gingrich picks Rush Limbaugh for his running mate, together they'll have seven marriages.




And as many mistresses.

Guest
01-23-2012, 03:34 PM
I know. The Republicans picked Palin while the astute Democrats picked the brilliant and humble and eloquent Joe Biden as their VP pick.

You'll never be embarrassed being a supporter of Biden.

Joe Biden experience: US Senator, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee

Sarah Palin experience: President of the PTA, Mayor of Wasilla, half-term Governor of Alaska

And this from the party that gave us Dick Cheney, Dan Quayle, Spiro Agnew

Guest
01-23-2012, 03:40 PM
Joe Biden experience: US Senator, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee

Sarah Palin experience: President of the PTA, Mayor of Wasilla, half-term Governor of Alaska

And this from the party that gave us Dick Cheney, Dan Quayle, Spiro Agnew

.......and Biden speaks so well. The Obama campaign cannot wait for all the witty remarks and comments from Biden. What an asset. You're lucky to have him.

.......I'm sure the VP debate will be awesome for him.

Guest
01-23-2012, 03:43 PM
This from the party that tried to give us Sarah Palin as vice-president?

Guest
01-23-2012, 04:10 PM
Donald Rumsfeld...Ugh!

Joe Biden experience: US Senator, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee

Sarah Palin experience: President of the PTA, Mayor of Wasilla, half-term Governor of Alaska

And this from the party that gave us Dick Cheney, Dan Quayle, Spiro Agnew

Guest
01-23-2012, 10:59 PM
This from the party that tried to give us Sarah Palin as vice-president?

Palin destroyed Biden in the debates they had despite the liberal media spin. You'd have to be a real hack not to admit it.

But I'm sure Biden is smarter than the average liberal, so maybe that's all you expect.

Guest
01-23-2012, 11:18 PM
Losing it! :cus:

Guest
01-23-2012, 11:57 PM
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."

Biden: Obama is first "CLEAN" African American - YouTube

Guest
01-24-2012, 05:40 AM
why are people so impressed with politicians who can ONLY talk the talk.

The current "management " of the USA is not doing the job of what needs to be done. They need to be removed from their jobs. Talking about what is wrong with America all the while dong NOTHING to fix it is just not good for any of us...no matter what the flavor or party!!

btk