Where Are All The Birthers?

[Guest]

Just wondering why none of the Republicans have started questioning Romney's "natural born citizenship" status? Didn't the story just break awhile back about his Grandfather and father being born in Mexico? Since Mitty's daddy was born in Mexico and had duel citizenship, doesn't that make Mitty not a "natural born citizen" the same has President Obama, since the President has personally stated that his father was not born or even a citizen of the United States.

Come on, let's get with it and either forget the US Constitution or both parties have to obey it.

[Guest]

Figmo, that comment was extremely well thought-out. You must be listening to your wife more and more. :coolsmiley:

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What happened to the birthers' investigation of Marco Rubio?

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No, but I have read and do understand the United States Constitution and what is good for the goose should be good for the gander. Right? Either we follow the Constitution or scarp it and forget the rule of law.

Just wondering why they are not jumping on Romney like they did on Obama?

[Guest]

What happened to the birthers' investigation of Marco Rubio?

You do not have to be a "natural born citizen" to be a senator. Why would they investigate him? Please read the US Constitution.

[Guest]

You do not have to be a "natural born citizen" to be a senator. Why would they investigate him? Please read the US Constitution.

They should investigate him just in case somebody is thinking about making him vice-president.

[Guest]

There needs to be no investigation, either both his parents are natural born citizens, mean both of they where born on US soil and are US native citizens, not naturalized, then he is eligible, if his parents where not born in the US then he is not eligible to be vice-president, as he would become president if something happened to the sitting president.

It is really an either/or questions. Either they are and he is or they are not and he is not. Really very simple.

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Marco Rubio is off the short list of vice presidential prospects.

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Marco Rubio's parents came to the USA from Cuba in the late 1950's - during the Batista era in Cuba. Marco was born in the USA. He is a natural born citizen of the USA.

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There needs to be no investigation, either both his parents are natural born citizens, mean both of they where born on US soil and are US native citizens, not naturalized, then he is eligible, if his parents where not born in the US then he is not eligible to be vice-president, as he would become president if something happened to the sitting president.

It is really an either/or questions. Either they are and he is or they are not and he is not. Really very simple.

Not according to Figmo's interpretation of the constitution. "If his parents were not born in the US then he is not eligible to be vice-president, as he would become president if something happened to the sitting president".

And getting back to Figmo's original post question, this is not a recent question. This came up when George Romney ran for president many years ago, since he was the one born in Mexico.

[Guest]

Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as president of the United States:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
The Twelfth Amendment states that, "No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." The Fourteenth Amendment does not use the phrase natural-born citizen. It does provide that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Under Article One of the United States Constitution, representatives and senators are only required to be U.S. citizens.[2][3]

The first several presidents prior to Martin van Buren, as well as potential presidential candidates, were born as British subjects in British America before the American Revolution.[4]

[Guest]

Totally with you on this Figmo! I haven't mentioned it because it didn't get us far with the Bamster. I don't like Mitt either way.

[Guest]

Totally with you on this Figmo! I haven't mentioned it because it didn't get us far with the Bamster. I don't like Mitt either way.

Well if it comes to voting "for" Mitt as a vote "against" The Impostor, I hope you'll do what's right for the country.

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I will vote "against" the Imposter for sure...I wonder how many will do the same if it means a vote "for" Rick Santorum?

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Vattel’s Law of Nations:

“As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

Every Supreme Court Justice knows what the term means, which is why the Supreme Court prefers to never hear the case. The term Natural Born Citizen refers to a citizen by Natural Law (aka the Laws of Nature), the natural offspring of a Father who was at the time of the child’s birth, a legal Citizen of the United States. The nation of the Father is thereby the nation of the child, via Natural Law.

Link: Lex Greene -- Natural Law and Natural Born Facts (http://www.newswithviews.com/guest_opinion/guest197.htm)

Since Romney and Rubio's fathers where citizens at the time of his birth in the US, that makes them "natural born citizens" IAW Natural Law, where on the other hand, President Obama's father clearly was not a citizen at the time of Obama's birth, thererore making him not eligible for the Office of the President. Seems that a judge up in Georgia will decide this question shortly. To bad that there is no main stream media coverage of this proceedings. Wonder how long that judge will have that judgeship?

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Vattel’s Law of Nations:

“As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

Every Supreme Court Justice knows what the term means, which is why the Supreme Court prefers to never hear the case. The term Natural Born Citizen refers to a citizen by Natural Law (aka the Laws of Nature), the natural offspring of a Father who was at the time of the child’s birth, a legal Citizen of the United States. The nation of the Father is thereby the nation of the child, via Natural Law.

Link: Lex Greene -- Natural Law and Natural Born Facts (http://www.newswithviews.com/guest_opinion/guest197.htm)

Since Romney and Rubio's fathers where citizens at the time of his birth in the US, that makes them "natural born citizens" IAW Natural Law, where on the other hand, President Obama's father clearly was not a citizen at the time of Obama's birth, thererore making him not eligible for the Office of the President. Seems that a judge up in Georgia will decide this question shortly. To bad that there is no main stream media coverage of this proceedings. Wonder how long that judge will have that judgeship?

"Since Romney and Rubio's fathers were citizens at the time of his birth in the US, that makes the "natural born citizens" is incorrect pertaining to Rubio. Fact: Marco Rubio was born in Miami on May 28, 1971. His parents became citizens in 1975.

[Guest]

janmcn, then Rubio is correct, he is not eligible. Thanks for clearing that up. I did not research Rubio far enough to look at citizenship dates and birthdates.

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"Since Romney and Rubio's fathers were citizens at the time of his birth in the US, that makes the "natural born citizens" is incorrect pertaining to Rubio. Fact: Marco Rubio was born in Miami on May 28, 1971. His parents became citizens in 1975.

It is essential then they the country demand a full accounting of the validity of Obama's birth. Because to ignore this issue will set precedent allowing future candidates not being "natural born" to run for president or at least it will be argued. and the country can't allow a protracted legal debate interfere with electing a president in a timely fashion. so what do you believe will occur?

I am writing my Senator. Oops that's Rubio. then I'll write the president. Oops that's Obama. then I'll write the Attorney General. Oops that's Holder

think think think

[Guest]

We all need to write our local and state level elected officials. Get their attention, that we will no longer allow something like this to take place. If the candidate can not or will not show prove that he/she is a "natural born citizen," then their name does no go on the ballet. Plain and simple, local and state level to fix this problem.

[Guest]

Gee, if Figmo is stating what a "natural born" person means, would he also exclude a person whose birth was Ceasarian Section? That is not natural as it takes a surgical procedure.

[Guest]

Gee, if Figmo is stating what a "natural born" person means, would he also exclude a person whose birth was Ceasarian Section? That is not natural as it takes a surgical procedure.

Being born by Caesarian would not exclude that person if both parents were in the room at the time of birth....

[Guest]

What does having both parent being in the operating room have to do with being natural born for a Caesarian Section birth?

And what about Marco Rubio being born to Cubans who had not been naturalized citizens at the time of his birth? I would bet the teapartiers would take major exception to that.

[Guest]

Buggyone~ it was an attempt at humor...Ha Ha