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Hancle704
01-28-2012, 02:07 PM
in today's Daily Sun on page A-1 above the fold, Mitt Romney coming to TV Monday for appearance at Square in LSL. Story with pictures on first page continued on page A-3.

Same "news" paper, on page C-1 in 2X3" Column on bottom left side, report that Newt Gingrich coming to TV Sunday, no picture. Reports he will be in parking lot near Barnes and Noble.

This is fair and balanced reporting?

Jim 9922
01-28-2012, 02:22 PM
This is fair and balanced reporting?

It depends on who you are supporting. :boxing2:

janmcn
01-28-2012, 02:30 PM
And where do you think it would be announced if President Obama visited TV?

Posh 08
01-28-2012, 02:39 PM
Since Newt slapped John King he is going to have a tough time with the press/media.

Hancle704
01-28-2012, 02:44 PM
Thought the editor/owner's opinions appear on the Editorial page.

jblum315
01-28-2012, 02:46 PM
It has been said many times and worth repeating: The Daily Sun is not a newspaper. It is an advertising vehicle for the developer.

graciegirl
01-28-2012, 02:58 PM
If you live here, you must accept on some level that the newspaper reflects the political views of the developer who owns The Daily Sun. That is fine if you agree with those views and not so fine if you don't. Every newspaper I have read has a political slant.

It is what it is.

pooh
01-28-2012, 03:04 PM
:agree:If you live here, you must accept on some level that the newspaper reflects the political views of the developer who owns The Daily Sun. That is fine if you agree with those views and not so fine if you don't. Every newspaper I have read has a political slant.

It is what it is.
:agree:

Just about every newspaper is slanted towards one party or another.

Posh 08
01-28-2012, 03:08 PM
If you live here, you must accept on some level that the newspaper reflects the political views of the developer who owns The Daily Sun. That is fine if you agree with those views and not so fine if you don't. Every newspaper I have read has a political slant.

It is what it is.

Always has been in a free society and always will be. We hope.

Midge538
01-28-2012, 03:12 PM
The Morses donated $500,000.00 to the Romney PAC.

"(A new Super PAC created to support Mitt Romney raised $12.2 million in the first half of the year entirely from high-dollar contributors and spent just over $22,000, according to a report filed with the FEC.)

Renee Morse, who owns the Florida mega-retirement community, The Villages, gave $250,000 and the company matched that amount

BOMBERO
01-28-2012, 03:18 PM
If you live here, you must accept on some level that the newspaper reflects the political views of the developer who owns The Daily Sun. That is fine if you agree with those views and not so fine if you don't. Every newspaper I have read has a political slant.

It is what it is.

:agree:


Hancle704 When you start your paper....you can be as fair and balanced as you want. IMHO

Some time after ducati1974 builds his town square in the correct location.

How the hell did the Morse Family get where they are without input from some people here on TOTV ????

duffysmom
01-28-2012, 03:19 PM
I enjoy reading The Sun daily. I have my own political ideas and find it amusing that people believe that their rhetoric can sway my beliefs.:ohdear: I take what I want and leave the rest.

rubicon
01-28-2012, 03:27 PM
You would expect that the 1% is going to support the 1%. I just explained in another thread wherein Romney's claims of 15% tax as carried interest may be creative accounting because the income in question has to derive from services provided to Bain which Romney left in 1999. so if what he did disclose is questionable then one has a right to question what he did not disclose.

Further an WSJ editorial explained tha the claims by Romney concerning Gingrich's $300,000 fine and resignation were nothing more than an vendetta by democraticv and also used as cover because of Clinton's ethical woes.
Gingrich copped a plea because he did not want further political damage. yet the IRS invesitgation exoneratd him in 1999

Obama is playing class warfare. Romney is the 1% Obama wants people to hate. It doesn't take much to see the collison if Romney is nominated. Further Romney is being pushed by the Establishment. The fight in GOP is among the Establishment, Evangelical Christians and Tea Party. If Romney wins nothing will materially change because the 1% won't let it. The GOP win must be grass roots

This explains in part why people are dissatisifed with the Daily Sun. I am not of the mind that its the Developer's paper and so he can do what he wants. I mean this is America not Russia. this morning on my way home on buena vista a woman in front of me started to turn right to enter a village and stopped to let a cart go ahead. she was halfway through her turn. she almost was rear ended and the horns sounded simultaneously, she meant to be nice but.....Well that's what happens when people want to always say nice things when in fact the truth is what needs to be said. these folks do more harm than good because they reinforce bad behavior. If drivers didn't beep their horns today this driver would have thought this nice gesture was good and who knows the nest time someone is going to rear end her and psuh her car into the cart and driver she is deferring to:spoken:

uujudy
01-28-2012, 03:50 PM
And where do you think it would be announced if President Obama visited TV?

Hahaha. He did visit The Villages when he was campaigning. He stopped at a business in Spanish Springs, and The Daily Sun reported it afterward in a little 2 x 3 article.

Bogie Shooter
01-28-2012, 03:52 PM
Move this to political.

kentucky blue
01-28-2012, 04:00 PM
I enjoy reading The Sun daily. I have my own political ideas and find it amusing that people believe that their rhetoric can sway my beliefs.:ohdear: I take what I want and leave the rest.

Nobody has ever said "The Daily Sun " is "Fair and Balanced" so i'm with you ,i read it with amusement, i do enjoy the sports and lifestyle sections, and the price is right.All newspapers should just report the facts and leave the spin to the rest of us. If people force their opinions(spin) on others,you will only attract like forces to you,and that's really boring and so are you.Of course, i stopped believing in the facts when my childhood was SHATTERED, when i saw my mommy kissing Santa Claus.

BobKat1
01-28-2012, 04:19 PM
Move this to political.

Best comment so far....

rubicon
01-28-2012, 04:33 PM
:agree:


Hancle704 When you start your paper....you can be as fair and balanced as you want. IMHO

Some time after ducati1974 builds his town square in the correct location.

How the hell did the Morse Family get where they are without input from some people here on TOTV ????

Its a primordial response for people to comment on issues. Would you deny their right to do so? If so then why are you on TOTV because that is exactly the philosophy/reason as to why TOTV exits and people belong. Perhaps we should use ESP when responding and then you won't be affected as much.....I just saying. GEEEZ

graciegirl
01-28-2012, 04:45 PM
I was taught by Mrs. Belcher in my high school English class that every publication had a political bias. Every magazine and every newspaper that was independently owned by someone.

We had to read them and tell her the bias. That was really hard because we didn't know much about politics at that young age.

She taught me something that I have since then seen to be correct. I read a lot and do not limit myself to newspapers and magazines and periodicals that only reflect my views.

The people who own and run this place are Republican. And in fact according to the statistics, much more than half of the people who live here are too.

I think this needs to be said often so people are not surprised or angry over that fact if they are considering this place to be their home.

2BNTV
01-28-2012, 05:13 PM
I was taught by Mrs. Belcher in my high school English class that every publication had a political bias. Every magazine and every newspaper that was independently owned by someone.

We had to read them and tell her the bias. That was really hard because we didn't know much about politics at that young age.

She taught me something that I have since then seen to be correct. I read a lot and do not limit myself to newspapers and magazines and periodicals that only reflect my views.

The people who own and run this place are Republican. And in fact according to the statistics, much more than half of the people who live here are too.

I think this needs to be said often so people are not surprised or angry over that fact if they are considering this place to be their home.

Excellent points Gracie. :)

I vote this should be moved to political.

rubicon
01-28-2012, 06:21 PM
I was taught by Mrs. Belcher in my high school English class that every publication had a political bias. Every magazine and every newspaper that was independently owned by someone.

We had to read them and tell her the bias. That was really hard because we didn't know much about politics at that young age.

She taught me something that I have since then seen to be correct. I read a lot and do not limit myself to newspapers and magazines and periodicals that only reflect my views.

The people who own and run this place are Republican. And in fact according to the statistics, much more than half of the people who live here are too.

I think this needs to be said often so people are not surprised or angry over that fact if they are considering this place to be their home.

Mrs Belcher was right but we have moved from political bias to out right publishing of misinformation...and no information is better than misinformation

swimdawg
01-28-2012, 06:52 PM
Move this to political.

Another high five for this one.....:highfive:

JimJoe
01-28-2012, 07:07 PM
Do not move this to political. It is not about politics (although I admit it almost got hijacked). It is about an observation of a newspaper's treatment of news. Personally I enjoy reading "the sun" when I am in TV. It is a very big paper at a very reasonable price. I agree with those that say every paper has a slant. It is our job to understand that and get our news from diverse sources. I even watch msnbc sometimes!!
JJ

Move this to political.

Hancle704
01-28-2012, 07:08 PM
is that I thought a newspaper was clearly divided between reporting of the news, editorials, op-eds, letters to editor and advertisements. Seems like I was wrong and many folks accept that a combination of all three on the front page is okay.

UpNorth
01-28-2012, 08:30 PM
Back home, my uber-liberal local paper features a lopsided liberal opinion page and political cartoons that are always anti-Republican. So, it is refreshingly nice to see cartoons that make Obama and his cronies look like the fools that they are, and columnists that are rarely featured back home. I often take copies back home to prove to the locals that not all political cartoons are anti-republican.

BobKat1
01-28-2012, 08:45 PM
Excellent points Gracie. :)

I vote this should be moved to political.

See the post above. it reinforces your (mine too) vote for a move to the appropriate location.

ilovetv
01-28-2012, 08:55 PM
Back home, my uber-liberal local paper features a lopsided liberal opinion page and political cartoons that are always anti-Republican. So, it is refreshingly nice to see cartoons that make Obama and his cronies look like the fools that they are, and columnists that are rarely featured back home. I often take copies back home to prove to the locals that not all political cartoons are anti-republican.

This is what we have had up north, too. Major newspapers in two huge metro areas are all-democrat and openly, heavily biased.

So I read what I'm interested in and leave the rest.......just as I do with the Daily Sun here. If I read something that's "news to me" and it seems awfully biased, I go looking online for other sources, both lefty and righty.

That's the great thing about the good ole USA. We can "take it or leave it".....it's our freedom of choice to read whatever the heck we want to.

It's a great country!!! Let's keep it that way!

Schaumburger
01-28-2012, 09:01 PM
This is what we have had up north, too. Major newspapers in two huge metro areas are all-democrat and openly, heavily biased.

So I read what I'm interested in and leave the rest.......just as I do with the Daily Sun here. If I read something that's "news to me" and it seems awfully biased, I go looking online for other sources, both lefty and righty.

That's the great thing about the good ole USA. We can "take it or leave it".....it's our freedom of choice to read whatever the heck we want to.

It's a great country!!! Let's keep it that way!

:agree:

jblum315
01-28-2012, 10:30 PM
Renee Morse, who owns the Florida mega-retirement community, The Villages, gave $250,000 and the company matched that amount

Who on earth is Renee Morse? Never heard that name before!

kentucky blue
01-28-2012, 10:40 PM
Who on earth is Renee Morse? Never heard that name before!

She is the wife of Gary Morse....................share the wealth:icon_wink:

graciegirl
01-29-2012, 06:58 AM
It is not a secret that the Morses are large contributors to the Republican party and it seems clear recently who they are endorsing. I wondered which of the front runners it would be.

For those new to the forum, no Democrat has been asked to speak at the squares.

I find that there are few who aren't passionate about their politicial views here and very few whose minds will be changed by debate.

I also think there are more moderates that are silent.

People will say that your politics doesn't matter here. But I really think it does matters here. We become quite sure of our opinions as we age.

However, I have never heard politics discussed at social events....unless the other attendees were sure your politics matched theirs.

And if you disagree please chime in, but don't be hurtful. Everyone is entitled to their views.

tainsley
01-29-2012, 07:00 AM
I enjoy reading The Sun daily. I have my own political ideas and find it amusing that people believe that their rhetoric can sway my beliefs.:ohdear: I take what I want and leave the rest.

I am with you! I like the paper. I never read the political crap. I like to read about the people in TV, rec schedules, dinner specials, who is appearing at the Squares, people helping people, the local communities, high school sports, and this day in history. I just love this place! I am going to go get the paper in my driveway now to what is for dinner this evening. Have a happy day everyone!

swimdawg
01-29-2012, 07:19 AM
And if you disagree please chime in, but don't be hurtful. Everyone is entitled to their views.

And you are always welcome to join the POLITICAL forum if you enjoy all that political bantering.

graciegirl
01-29-2012, 07:20 AM
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Bogie Shooter
01-29-2012, 09:18 AM
in today's Daily Sun on page A-1 above the fold, Mitt Romney coming to TV Monday for appearance at Square in LSL. Story with pictures on first page continued on page A-3.

Same "news" paper, on page C-1 in 2X3" Column on bottom left side, report that Newt Gingrich coming to TV Sunday, no picture. Reports he will be in parking lot near Barnes and Noble.

This is fair and balanced reporting?

Today (Sunday) Gingrich, with picture, on front page of Daily Sun.
What would this site do without conspiracy theories??

skyguy79
01-29-2012, 09:56 AM
...http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/Imptress/exactly.gif

brostholder
01-29-2012, 10:29 AM
Today (Sunday) Gingrich, with picture, on front page of Daily Sun.
What would this site do without conspiracy theories??
Now someone will complain that the Romney story was above the fold and the Gingrich story was below the fold!

ladydoc
01-29-2012, 10:31 AM
in today's Daily Sun on page A-1 above the fold, Mitt Romney coming to TV Monday for appearance at Square in LSL. Story with pictures on first page continued on page A-3.

Same "news" paper, on page C-1 in 2X3" Column on bottom left side, report that Newt Gingrich coming to TV Sunday, no picture. Reports he will be in parking lot near Barnes and Noble.

This is fair and balanced reporting?

Fair and balanced would include mentioning a democratic candidate once in awhile. But the paper thinks we are too dumb to process differing opinions. This is a company town....

RichieLion
01-29-2012, 10:43 AM
Fair and balanced would include mentioning a democratic candidate once in awhile. But the paper thinks we are too dumb to process differing opinions. This is a company town....

There's only one Democrat candidate, and I'm positive if he were to visit TV it would be in every Florida paper, including The Daily Sun.

I think the paper is what it is. It reflects the mindset of the publisher, as every other paper everywhere does.

For a long time now I've considered the famous New York Times as an editorially left wing political tool and stopped reading it, because they slyly print "news stories" which promote their liberal agenda.

I only search an article on line from time to time when it's referenced in one of the publications I do read and I want to know more detail than the excerpts I've read.

If you feel that way about the Daily Sun, I suggest you do likewise.

Mikeod
01-29-2012, 10:52 AM
Railing against the political leanings of the Daily Sun is the same as ranting about the two-lane roundabouts, etc. And it will get you the same result, an ulcer.

What is the old saying?
Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

swimdawg
01-29-2012, 11:06 AM
Railing against the political leanings of the Daily Sun is the same as ranting about the two-lane roundabouts, etc. And it will get you the same result, an ulcer. What is the old saying?

Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

Oh..........I think you've got the famous....or is it infamous?....award for today. It's early, I know.....but I've gotta do it....

You get the SWIMDAWG Post of the Day Award!

kentucky blue
01-29-2012, 11:50 AM
Railing against the political leanings of the Daily Sun is the same as ranting about the two-lane roundabouts, etc. And it will get you the same result, an ulcer.

What is the old saying?
Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

I agree,don't waste your time trying to change political leanings,it's just not going to happen.We all like to vote for the best person,but unfortunately he or she is never a candidate.As far as i'm concerned all politicians and diapers should be changed frequently,and for the exact same reasons.

Indydealmaker
01-29-2012, 01:44 PM
I agree,don't waste your time trying to change political leanings,it's just not going to happen.We all like to vote for the best person,but unfortunately he or she is never a candidate.As far as i'm concerned all politicians and diapers should be changed frequently,and for the exact same reasons.

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

Bigben007
01-29-2012, 02:19 PM
The Morses donated $500,000.00 to the Romney PAC.

"(A new Super PAC created to support Mitt Romney raised $12.2 million in the first half of the year entirely from high-dollar contributors and spent just over $22,000, according to a report filed with the FEC.)

Renee Morse, who owns the Florida mega-retirement community, The Villages, gave $250,000 and the company matched that amount



I knew I liked the Morse family, now I like them even more!

collie1228
01-29-2012, 02:48 PM
Freedom of the press comes from the 1st Amendment to the Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." There's not a word in there about any requirement for "fair and balanced" reporting. If you don't like the paper, you have every right not to buy it. And if you really don't like it, you can always start your own paper and compete with it.

Pathel
01-29-2012, 03:04 PM
I knew I liked the Morse family, now I like them even more!

Yes!!!! :agree:

janmcn
01-29-2012, 03:45 PM
Freedom of the press comes from the 1st Amendment to the Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." There's not a word in there about any requirement for "fair and balanced" reporting. If you don't like the paper, you have every right not to buy it. And if you really don't like it, you can always start your own paper and compete with it.

And where in The Villages am I allowed to get on my soapbox and exercise my freedom of speech or petition the Government for a redress of grievances?

graciegirl
01-29-2012, 04:21 PM
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Bettiboop
01-29-2012, 04:55 PM
If you live here, you must accept on some level that the newspaper reflects the political views of the developer who owns The Daily Sun. That is fine if you agree with those views and not so fine if you don't. Every newspaper I have read has a political slant.

It is what it is.

I agree with GG on this one.

I don't think The Daily Sun ever claimed to be "fair and balanced." They just "is what they is" and I always find it better for me (read less stressful) to take away what I want from it and leave the rest. It's the same approach I take when listening to a news channel who makes the claim of "fair and balanced." :icon_wink:

buggyone
01-29-2012, 07:41 PM
And where in The Villages am I allowed to get on my soapbox and exercise my freedom of speech or petition the Government for a redress of grievances?


You can get on a soapbox anywhere it is not private property. The town squares are private property but you could set your soapbox up in a parking space next to the square. You could rent a room at any of the Recreation centers. You could put your soapbox in your driveway, pay for an advertisement in the newspaper, offer free coffee and donuts, and you would get a standing room only crowd to hear you talk on any subject you want. Villagers would do almost anything for free coffee and donuts.

buggyone
01-30-2012, 05:57 PM
I am still waiting for the advertisement for your soapbox talk to come out in The Daily Sun. I prefer Bavarian Creme Donuts from Dunkin' Donuts and make my coffee kind of strong with a dollop of whipped cream on it.

janmcn
01-30-2012, 06:04 PM
I can't compete with Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, so I'm waiting until after the election and still trying to come up with a topic. Any suggestions? If I'm hauled off to jail, then I'll know I have no first amendment rights while living in The Villages.

SALYBOW
01-30-2012, 06:23 PM
in today's Daily Sun on page A-1 above the fold, Mitt Romney coming to TV Monday for appearance at Square in LSL. Story with pictures on first page continued on page A-3.

Same "news" paper, on page C-1 in 2X3" Column on bottom left side, report that Newt Gingrich coming to TV Sunday, no picture. Reports he will be in parking lot near Barnes and Noble.

This is fair and balanced reporting?
If I am not mistaken it is Fox News that claims to be "fair and balanced." The Daily Sun doesn't care to be "fair and balanced" and they aren't. No surprise to me.

skyguy79
01-30-2012, 07:27 PM
I am still waiting for the advertisement for your soapbox talk to come out in The Daily Sun. I prefer Bavarian Creme Donuts from Dunkin' Donuts and make my coffee kind of strong with a dollop of whipped cream on it.Sounds good to me ... the donuts and coffee that is!

http://www.smileyarena.com/emoticons/Main/Food_and_Drinks/donut4.gif http://www.jms7.com/cultura/a025.gif
http://board.jokeroo.com/images/smilies/wow1.gif

bmarlo767
01-30-2012, 11:30 PM
The Question by John King was a set up, CNN expected the reaction and how it would play out. It was expected that it would help Gingrich. They would much rather have
Newt than Mit against Obama.

mgjim
01-31-2012, 09:26 AM
Did somebody say there'd be free coffee and donuts?

twinklesweep
01-31-2012, 09:58 AM
I thought that the front page of the NEWS section that day would include some reporting about the horrific accident that took place close to The Villages on I-75 that claimed ten lives and sent eighteen to the hospital. I was wrong.

Bill-n-Brillo
01-31-2012, 10:54 AM
I thought that the front page of the NEWS section that day would include some reporting about the horrific accident that took place close to The Villages on I-75 that claimed ten lives and sent eighteen to the hospital. I was wrong.

The OP was referring to Saturday's paper, I believe. The accident on I-75 happened very early Sunday morning. With the timing of everything, I don't think that news would have made it to print until Monday's edition.

Bill :)