"tour de villages"

[MrMark]

Can anyone explain why hordes of bicyclists are allowed to ride on roads that have no bike or cart paths with 35 MPH speed limits posted? Personally I think they are a menace, not only to themselves but to all vehicles who are forever trying to avoid hitting them or risking accidents by trying to stay out of their way. Nowhere is this a bigger issue than on the many roundabouts in TV where these brightly clad daredevils seem to think they are the only one's on the road. While I do admit that they look lovely in their bright colored tour de france like outfits (way to tight for many of them) I am sure that some day, somewhere one of them is going to be on the wrong side of an accident caused by some poor soul trying to avoid them. If golf carts (except street legal) aren't allowed to travel on these roads why in world are these two wheeled wonders not prohibited.

[Bogie Shooter]

Can anyone explain why hordes of bicyclists are allowed to ride on roads that have no bike or cart paths with 35 MPH speed limits posted? Personally I think they are a menace, not only to themselves but to all vehicles who are forever trying to avoid hitting them or risking accidents by trying to stay out of their way. Nowhere is this a bigger issue than on the many roundabouts in TV where these brightly clad daredevils seem to think they are the only one's on the road. While I do admit that they look lovely in their bright colored tour de france like outfits (way to tight for many of them) I am sure that some day, somewhere one of them is going to be on the wrong side of an accident caused by some poor soul trying to avoid them. If golf carts (except street legal) aren't allowed to travel on these roads why in world are these two wheeled wonders not prohibited.

Because we are a retirement community.

[ukgolfer]

Bikes were around before cars........ ride your bike, live your life, share the road

[cybermuda]

The 35 MPH speed limit is the upper, not the lower, limit. You should not be travelling that fast if it is not safe to do so, such as there being slower road users in the vicinity.

[Mallory]

They are allowed to ride on The Villages' roads and roads in Florida because that is the law in this state; they are allowed by law to ride on cart paths and multi-modal paths as well. If it's a problem, you need to take the lead and get a movement going to change the law.

[Bosoxfan]

Not only are we allowed on the roads but by law you're supposed to give us 3 feet of clearance!

[cybermuda]

[QUOTE=MrMark;447465]Can anyone explain why hordes of bicyclists are allowed to ride on roads that have no bike or cart paths with 35 MPH speed limits posted? Personally I think they are a menace...QUOTE]

These "problems" arise because people neglect to do their homework before coming to The Villages.

It is a golf cart-friendly, active retirement community, so you are bound to come across slower vehicles and people exercising.

If all you want to do when you retire is speed from one Burger King to another then find a NASCAR-friendly community for couch potatoes.

Clearly The Villages is not for you, but please don't expect the 70,000 people here to change just to suit your desired lifestyle.

[Jim Straz]

[QUOTE=MrMark;447465]Can anyone explain why hordes of bicyclists are allowed to ride on roads that have no bike or cart paths with 35 MPH speed limits posted? Personally I think they are a menace...QUOTE]

These "problems" arise because people neglect to do their homework before coming to The Villages.

It is a golf cart-friendly, active retirement community, so you are bound to come across slower vehicles and people exercising.

If all you want to do when you retire is speed from one Burger King to another then find a NASCAR-friendly community for couch potatoes.

Clearly The Villages is not for you, but please don't expect the 70,000 people here to change just to suit your desired lifestyle.
Bravo!

[Bosoxfan]

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These "problems" arise because people neglect to do their homework before coming to The Villages.

It is a golf cart-friendly, active retirement community, so you are bound to come across slower vehicles and people exercising.

If all you want to do when you retire is speed from one Burger King to another then find a NASCAR-friendly community for couch potatoes.

Clearly The Villages is not for you, but please don't expect the 70,000 people here to change just to suit your desired lifestyle.

[Challenger]

[QUOTE=MrMark;447465]Can anyone explain why hordes of bicyclists are allowed to ride on roads that have no bike or cart paths with 35 MPH speed limits posted? Personally I think they are a menace...QUOTE]

These "problems" arise because people neglect to do their homework before coming to The Villages.

It is a golf cart-friendly, active retirement community, so you are bound to come across slower vehicles and people exercising.

If all you want to do when you retire is speed from one Burger King to another then find a NASCAR-friendly community for couch potatoes.

Clearly The Villages is not for you, but please don't expect the 70,000 people here to change just to suit your desired lifestyle.

Well said:coolsmiley:

[duffysmom]

What's the rush?:ohdear:

[Mikeod]

I wonder if MrMark is from an urban area as the posts, to me, show an individual who is accustomed to rushing about. I came to TV from So. California and spent many years moving quickly, whether is was on the freeways, or side streets when the freeways were backed up. We walked fast, talked fast, did everything fast. Speed limits were a "suggestion" for many. I remember being on a freeway with a speed limit of 65, in traffic moving at 75, and having people pass me as if I were stopped. Gaining a car length in rush hour was a commuting victory.

It took me a while after moving here to really slow down. I mean REALLY slow down in both actions and attitude.

Just sayin'.

[blueridge]

My hubby used to ride his bike in the outskirts of our city. It had become so dangerous because people didn't feel they should share the road.

We hope that when we arrive in TV forever that hubby can once again ride his bike again and get those terrific Dr. reports that he once had.

[MrMark]

I wonder if MrMark is from an urban area as the posts, to me, show an individual who is accustomed to rushing about. I came to TV from So. California and spent many years moving quickly, whether is was on the freeways, or side streets when the freeways were backed up. We walked fast, talked fast, did everything fast. Speed limits were a "suggestion" for many. I remember being on a freeway with a speed limit of 65, in traffic moving at 75, and having people pass me as if I were stopped. Gaining a car length in rush hour was a commuting victory.

It took me a while after moving here to really slow down. I mean REALLY slow down in both actions and attitude.

Just sayin'.

Not one of you has bothered to read my original post from the perspective that I'm concerned about YOUR safety.

A couple of comments: The law probably does require me to give you 3 foot clearance. Can't do that if you are riding 2-3 abreast when two lanes of traffic are going in the same direction as you are. Tell me that's not so!

Many times you don't obey the laws of the road. My observation is that many of you don't think stop signs are meant for you. Tell me that's not so!

I never considered bicycle traffic when I moved here 20 years ago. There was virtually none and they certainly didn't roam in packs of 20 + without considering that cars were trying to avoid hitting them.

If you've ever seen any of my restaurant comments you'd know I've never been to a Burger King so why do you think I'm in a hurry to get there.

Can't believe you don't see this topic from the perspective of SAFETY. Your safety, not mine or any other automobile driver. Who do you think is going to win when one of you gets hit by a car who doesn't know you think you are invincible. Ride the cart paths like other slow moving vehicles or stay on street with cart or bicycle paths.

[cappyjon431]

Can't believe you don't see this topic from the perspective of SAFETY. Your safety, not mine or any other automobile driver. Who do you think is going to win when one of you gets hit by a car who doesn't know you think you are invincible. Ride the cart paths like other slow moving vehicles or stay on street with cart or bicycle paths.

And where do you think bicyclists should go in other metropolitan areas where there are no bike paths, cart paths, or multi-modal paths? Why should TV be any different?

The bottom line is that bicyclists, car drivers, and cart drivers need to drive with caution and share the road, just like everywhere else in the world. If bikers ignore rules of the road and get hurt, it is their fault. If car drivers don't exercise caution around bicyclists and cart drivers than the car driver can be at fault.

I think a little tolerance and respect is all that is needed here.

[MrMark]

Aye, Aye Captain Jon,

How convenient to switch the topic to other metro areas. The point is,which you obviously don't want to acknowledge, is that TV does have lots of much safer roads for bike riders to use. We do have streets with bike lanes, we do have cart paths and we do have multi modal paths. Why can't we just use them instead of talking about unfortunate other metro areas that aren't so blessed.

[cappyjon431]

Aye, Aye Captain Jon,

How convenient to switch the topic to other metro areas. The point is,which you obviously don't want to acknowledge, is that TV does have lots of much safer roads for bike riders to use. We do have streets with bike lanes, we do have cart paths and we do have multi modal paths. Why can't we just use them instead of talking about unfortunate other metro areas that aren't so blessed.

Four reasons, which I believe are correct:

1. Many riders have ridden for decades on the streets/roads of their communities without having any unfortunate safety issues. Why should they change now because a few don't want them on "their" roads (see the large majority of the previous posts).

2. They are within their legal rights doing so.

3. They are willing to assume the risk. If they violate the rules of the road, they assume risk, just like the drivers of other vehicles.

4. They pay taxes just like you and I--taxes which help keep up the roads that we ALL utilize.

I apologize if I threw you off with mentioning other metro area, but my argument is that if it is legal for these riders to ride on the streets in their previous home towns AND it is legal for them to do the same on Sumter/Marion/Lake county roads, I don't think they should have to change where they ride simply because you want them to.

[lightworker888]

if I am reading you properly, your point is about cyclists riding 2-3 abreast on the roads, and I understand that concern. I believe they are allowed to ride on any of the roads, but I don't think that they are allowed to ride 2-3 abreast. I know that I have to be extra cautious when 1 rider is on the road and I give him a wide berth. I haven't seen 2+ cycists abreast at any given time although I have passed long rows of cyclists and I do find that a little nerve wracking. But then I see that as my challenge not theirs.


LW888

[cybermuda]

[QUOTE=MrMark;447823]Not one of you has bothered to read my original post from the perspective that I'm concerned about YOUR safety.

Can't believe you don't see this topic from the perspective of SAFETY. Your safety, not mine or any other automobile driver.QUOTE]


The following quotes from your original post sound rather sarcastic and negative for someone who claims to be solely concerned about the safety of the cyclists:

...hordes of bicyclists...
...I think they are a menace...
...brightly clad daredevils...
...look lovely in their bright colored....outfits (way to tight for many of them)...
...two wheeled wonders...

but if you really are concerned then "thank you"

[cappyjon431]

[QUOTE=MrMark;447823]Not one of you has bothered to read my original post from the perspective that I'm concerned about YOUR safety.

Can't believe you don't see this topic from the perspective of SAFETY. Your safety, not mine or any other automobile driver.QUOTE]


The following quotes from your original post sound rather sarcastic and negative for someone who claims to be solely concerned about the safety of the cyclists:

...hordes of bicyclists...
...I think they are a menace...
...brightly clad daredevils...
...look lovely in their bright colored....outfits (way to tight for many of them)...
...two wheeled wonders...

but if you really are concerned then "thank you"

I didn't want to say anything, but I'm glad you did.:bigbow:

[aljetmet]

And where do you think bicyclists should go in other metropolitan areas where there are no bike paths, cart paths, or multi-modal paths? Why should TV be any different?

The bottom line is that bicyclists, car drivers, and cart drivers need to drive with caution and share the road, just like everywhere else in the world. If bikers ignore rules of the road and get hurt, it is their fault. If car drivers don't exercise caution around bicyclists and cart drivers than the car driver can be at fault.

I think a little tolerance and respect is all that is needed here.

Totally agree with this post. Just recently when travelling to my favorite Vietnamese restaurant in Memphis(which we'll miss so much when we move), found newly painted bike paths on a main road. It was a real surprise. Midtown Memphis which is a very artsy part of town near the U of Memphis. So I guess they are catering to people who like to exercise. Now I travel to the gym very early before sunrise and pass a slew of cyclists quite often. They wear outfits that light up and you can see them a mile away. They are very safe.

I just don't get the golf carts that are suped up to go over 25...

[memason]

. . . I just don't get the golf carts that are suped up to go over 25...

They're suped up to keep from being passed by the cyclists! :clap2:

[Bosoxfan]

I think a little tolerance and respect is all that is needed here.

Wish all people would live their lives with this in mind.Wouldn't that be nice!