Any Chance That Golf Carts Could Be Banned?

[Posh 08]

Now with accident numbers being collected and maybe or maybe not golf cart accidents are on the rise. Will golf carts always be allowed on TV streets and paths?

[MrMark]

Now with accident numbers being collected and maybe or maybe not golf cart accidents are on the rise. Will golf carts always be allowed on TV streets and paths?

Of course they will. It's the nuts behind the wheel that should be banned!

[Bogie Shooter]

Now with accident numbers being collected and maybe or maybe not golf cart accidents are on the rise. Will golf carts always be allowed on TV streets and paths?

The HOA estimated there were 50,000 golf carts in the villages.........that should answer your question.

[Posh 08]

The HOA estimated there were 50,000 golf carts in the villages.........that should answer your question.

No it doesn't answer it. Please do. Will they be banned in the future because of accidents?

[Bogie Shooter]

No it doesn't answer it. Please do. Will they be banned in the future because of accidents?

No!

[RichieLion]

No it doesn't answer it. Please do. Will they be banned in the future because of accidents?

Ban the number 1 attraction and symbol of The Villages "life style"? You must be joking. That's never going to happen.

[Posh 08]

Ban the number 1 attraction and symbol of The Villages "life style"? You must be joking. That's never going to happen.

Not taking a stance one way or the other. But with data being collected it could open up some liability questions perhaps.

[graciegirl]

Not taking a stance one way or the other. But with data being collected it could open up some liability questions perhaps.

Posh.

I am trying to understand. The golf carts are owned by individuals. Who or what entity would be liable? The individual who is behind the wheel would be liable for harm to person, place or thing.

There are many car accidents across this country, but cars aren't banned.

The data being collected would be to make us aware of how and where many accidents happen, I would think and under what circumstances. But perhaps I am missing a valid point.

I am trying to remember if you have visited The Villages, Posh.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Vehicle (car/truck) accidents, bus accidents, train accidents, airplane accidents, motorcycle accidents................things happen for a variety of reasons and under a variety of circumstances. The public and the gov't/controlling authorities are always looking for ways to reduce accidents but they will still happen. All of those modes of transportation still continue today and always will.

I can't believe it would ever be fathomable that golf cart use in TV would be eliminated.

Bill :)

[Barefoot]

Now with accident numbers being collected and maybe or maybe not golf cart accidents are on the rise. Will golf carts always be allowed on TV streets and paths?

:ohdear: Golf Carts will NOT be banned until Jetpaks are commonplace, that will allow us to individually fly everywhere. Hope there are no roundabouts in the sky.

[Figmo Bohica]

The carts don't need to be banned, but the drivers of carts need to be licensed, just like for autos. Seems that not one cart driver knows what STOP means or when or where you should just stop, like never stop in the lanes of travel, especially on a curve. Ban some drivers, its not the carts fault.

As you may know there is a cure for ignorance, but stupid has not cure.

[Posh 08]

:ohdear: Golf Carts will NOT be banned until Jetpaks are commonplace, that will allow us to individually fly everywhere. Hope there are no roundabouts in the sky.

I heard Segways mentioned on the Brownwood video. Didn't see any of those when we visited, bet we'll have a colony on the moon before we jetpaks in TV but I'll be first in line to try :a040:

[Posh 08]

The carts don't need to be banned, but the drivers of carts need to be licensed, just like for autos. Seems that not one cart driver knows what STOP means or when or where you should just stop, like never stop in the lanes of travel, especially on a curve. Ban some drivers, its not the carts fault.

As you may know there is a cure for ignorance, but stupid has not cure.

You can't fix stupid. I'm leaning your way with licensed carts etc. Some more regs of some sort.

[Barefoot]

The carts don't need to be banned, but the drivers of carts need to be licensed, just like for autos. Seems that not one cart driver knows what STOP means or when or where you should just stop, like never stop in the lanes of travel, especially on a curve. Ban some drivers, its not the carts fault.
As you may know there is a cure for ignorance, but stupid has not cure.

You are so right, any driver of a golf cart needs to be licensed to drive them. And this includes people renting.

[Posh 08]

You are so right, any driver of a golf cart needs to be licensed to drive them. And this includes people renting.

This could potentially eliminate folks driving carts that come for a LS visit. Any thoughts on our to educate them?

[VillagesFlorida]

I can remember when we could not drive our cart after dusk or before dawn. Golfers were actually ticketed for arriving at the starter shack before it was light enough. What a wonderful day it was when we could "stay out after dark"! I have maintained for a long time that anyone who drives a golf cart on the roads here should be licensed. The "rules" say 14 is old enough. WHAT??? How many 14 year-olds know much about the rules of the road? I think it is ridiculous that these kids can take off in Grandma and Grandpa's cart and not have a clue as to what they are doing. I just hope that we all exercise good judgement when driving our carts or we just might go back to being restricted after dark! Horrors!

[getdul981]

EVERYONE should have to pass a class to be eligible to operate a golf cart. I know when we first got here, we asked if there was anything we should know and the guy that took us to the rental said, nope, just get in and drive. We had to figure out things for ourselves. Thank goodness we had TOTV to help us learn some of the ins and outs about what should and shouldn't be done while driving a cart.

One instance I can think of off hand is we had been here in TV for months before we found out there is a tunnel under CR 103 just before you get to Wal-Mart. We had seen people going up Wedgewood and crossing so we thought that was the way. I don't remember how we found out, but probably here on TOTV. We have seen people doing the same thing and have told them that there is a tunnel and they didn't know about it either.

[uujudy]

When we first rented we checked in at the Sales Office, and we asked the helpful folks behind the desk if there was anything we should know about using the golf cart that came with the house. They were a wealth of information, and gave us the golf cart map so we wouldn't get lost.

I would think that whoever you rent your golf cart from should tell you there IS a free golf cart trail map. Maybe we can spread the word on TOTV?

[paulandjean]

Please no more talk of having a license to drive a golf cart. This is just plain silly. Would your auto drivers license be good enough. This is a very safe place to drive your cart. If you are having problems in your cart maybe its your fault.We do not need studies to tell us where accidents have taken place. Everyone just drive defensive and you will not have any problem. Just what we need here "special license to drive a cart or a bike or under 50 cc motorcycle. Watch what you ask for.

[red tail]

EVERYONE should have to pass a class to be eligible to operate a golf cart. I know when we first got here, we asked if there was anything we should know and the guy that took us to the rental said, nope, just get in and drive. We had to figure out things for ourselves. Thank goodness we had TOTV to help us learn some of the ins and outs about what should and shouldn't be done while driving a cart.

One instance I can think of off hand is we had been here in TV for months before we found out there is a tunnel under CR 103 just before you get to Wal-Mart. We had seen people going up Wedgewood and crossing so we thought that was the way. I don't remember how we found out, but probably here on TOTV. We have seen people doing the same thing and have told them that there is a tunnel and they didn't know about it either.

are you saying everyone should have to take a class because you need one?
lets get serious!!!

[graciegirl]

I guess that it seems that I have always played golf and always driven a golf cart, although our long four seater does require some extra skill.

It requires the same awareness just like driving a car, that another cart hitting you head on is maybe the end of you.

A little fear is a good thing.

Licensing is another issue. Perhaps just your driver license?

[jebartle]

on LSV's?.....They are studying whether LSV's should be allowed to cross 441/27.....We waited 10 minutes for a disabled scooter crossing at the intersection where 441 and 27 divide in Leesburg....We were both very concerned for the gentleman in the scooter on such a BUSY road....Not sure the scooter was going faster than 7 mph....Very very dangerous...

[bluedog103]

Now with accident numbers being collected and maybe or maybe not golf cart accidents are on the rise. Will golf carts always be allowed on TV streets and paths?
Can you imagine how crazy traffic would be on TV streets if we didn't have carts?

[DGx2]

Graciegirl, you are 100% right. DG

[dmorhome]

Think there is accidents now , ban golf carts and see how many accidents there are.

[VillagesFlorida]

Please no more talk of having a license to drive a golf cart. This is just plain silly. Would your auto drivers license be good enough. This is a very safe place to drive your cart. If you are having problems in your cart maybe its your fault.We do not need studies to tell us where accidents have taken place. Everyone just drive defensive and you will not have any problem. Just what we need here "special license to drive a cart or a bike or under 50 cc motorcycle. Watch what you ask for.

I can't speak for the others who have posted here saying that they feel that cart drivers should be licensed. What I CAN say is that a regular driver's license works for me. I see no need for a special "golf cart driver's license".

[Posh 08]

:clap2: Thanks for your responses. Mischief was my motive plus some concern.

[Mikeod]

My understanding is that carts are allowed on streets in TV because of a special waiver/exemption in the vehicle code passed by the legislature. As mentioned above, previously carts were only allowed in daylight hours. If the legislature can allow carts on streets, it can also ban them. All it would take is for someone to decide to sue declaring that the state/county/locality created an unsafe situation that resulted in injury (the Morse bridge crossing) and our use of carts could be examined and revoked. Think of the buffalo situation.

I would expect the political clout of the Morse's and the importance of TV to Sumter county would prevent that, but you just don't know.

Bottom line is to be careful out there with carts. They're not toys. And for those who get a thrill from their 35 mph carts, you just might kill the golden goose.

[superuke]

Go figure if these same people that have accidents in Golf Carts where allowed to drive cars what would happen? It wouldn't be safe to walk anywhere. Besides how would they look at their coupons driving a car.?

[bkcunningham1]

Since it is just opinions, I'll give mine. Ban golf carts? Never. They will eventually require insurance, tags, registration, decals, inspections...whatever localities can think of to generate revenue. I believe that is why there are so many stats collected on golf carts. Just remember, I told you so.

[Posh 08]

My understanding is that carts are allowed on streets in TV because of a special waiver/exemption in the vehicle code passed by the legislature. As mentioned above, previously carts were only allowed in daylight hours. If the legislature can allow carts on streets, it can also ban them. All it would take is for someone to decide to sue declaring that the state/county/locality created an unsafe situation that resulted in injury (the Morse bridge crossing) and our use of carts could be examined and revoked. Think of the buffalo situation.

I would expect the political clout of the Morse's and the importance of TV to Sumter county would prevent that, but you just don't know.

Bottom line is to be careful out there with carts. They're not toys. And for those who get a thrill from their 35 mph carts, you just might kill the golden goose.

Well said.

[Posh 08]

Since it is just opinions, I'll give mine. Ban golf carts? Never. They will eventually require insurance, tags, registration, decals, inspections...whatever localities can think of to generate revenue. I believe that is why there are so many stats collected on golf carts. Just remember, I told you so.

Also well said and thought before said.

[joannej]

I would highly recommend everyone go to the above meeting offered by TV, which is free of charge. There are also police officers present at the meeting that answer questions regarding golf cart laws, etc.

[Posh 08]

I would highly recommend everyone go to the above meeting offered by TV, which is free of charge. There are also police officers present at the meeting that answer questions regarding golf cart laws, etc.

When and where?

[DDoug]

Lot of accidents with cars did they ban those

[Barefoot]

Please no more talk of having a license to drive a golf cart. This is just plain silly. Would your auto drivers license be good enough. This is a very safe place to drive your cart. If you are having problems in your cart maybe its your fault.We do not need studies to tell us where accidents have taken place. Everyone just drive defensive and you will not have any problem. Just what we need here "special license to drive a cart or a bike or under 50 cc motorcycle. Watch what you ask for.

I'm curious .... what makes you think that people who are driving golf carts have valid driver's licenses?

[pooh]

Don't need a driver's license to drive a golf cart, but you do need one to drive a street legal golf cart. Not sure with all the traffic, I'd want to be driving in automobile and truck lanes.

Remember all, Never say Never...

[Posh 08]

I'm curious .... what makes you think that people who are driving golf carts have valid driver's licenses?

Good question. Canadian DLs valid in the USA?

[golf2140]

Please no more talk of having a license to drive a golf cart. This is just plain silly. Would your auto drivers license be good enough. This is a very safe place to drive your cart. If you are having problems in your cart maybe its your fault.We do not need studies to tell us where accidents have taken place. Everyone just drive defensive and you will not have any problem. Just what we need here "special license to drive a cart or a bike or under 50 cc motorcycle. Watch what you ask for.

:bigbow: :bigbow:

[buggyone]

One of the previous posters said that golf carts may someday require inspections, decals, insurance, tags, etc.

I would heartily suggest you do have insurance on your golf cart. Have an accident with your golf cart without insurance and you will be up the creek without a paddle. Your homeowner insurance or car insurance does not pay for damages with your golf cart. Injure someone and you could end up losing everything you worked for.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

....... I would heartily suggest you do have insurance on your golf cart. Have an accident with your golf cart without insurance and you will be up the creek without a paddle. Your homeowner insurance or car insurance does not pay for damages with your golf cart. Injure someone and you could end up losing everything you worked for.

Getting an "umbrella policy" through your insurance company wouldn't be a bad idea either. Provides additional liability coverage above and beyond what your various policies on your home, cars, golf cart, etc. have. Could really save your bacon in some cases!!

Bill :)

[Bogie Shooter]

Why didn't someone announce that silly season had started???

[Jim 9922]

Why didn't someone announce that silly season had started???

Have we all turned into blithering idiots that need to be ruled and legislated in our every action and activity? How in the world have us Villagers managed to live so long and so well without all the useless laws and regulations that will be passed tomorrow or the next day? Wrap me in bubble wrap and guide my every step so that I can exercise no risk, no caution, no common sense!:MOJE_whot:

[RichieLion]

Have we all turned into blithering idiots that need to be ruled and legislated in our every action and activity? How in the world have us Villagers managed to live so long and so well without all the useless laws and regulations that will be passed tomorrow or the next day? Wrap me in bubble wrap and guide my every step so that I can exercise no risk, no caution, no common sense!:MOJE_whot:

Yes, yes, yes...........thank you so much. I didn't know how to express the wonder that I had to all of these postings of people who crave more supervision of their lives. You've expressed my feelings brilliantly.

[vtcyclist]

Golf carts will be banned when the Morse family register as Democrats!!!

[skyguy79]

Good question. Canadian DLs valid in the USA?Absolutely but not if there is a conflict with FL regulations. i.e. if a province issues a legal drivers license to a 15 year old (not that any do) and FL minimum age for licensing is 16, that 15 year old does not have reciprocal privileges to drive in FL. That's pretty standard with all states. (this is just an example)

on LSV's?.....They are studying whether LSV's should be allowed to cross 441/27.....We waited 10 minutes for a disabled scooter crossing at the intersection where 441 and 27 divide in Leesburg....We were both very concerned for the gentleman in the scooter on such a BUSY road....Not sure the scooter was going faster than 7 mph....Very very dangerous...I absolutely guarantee that it was NOT me on that mobility scooter that you saw! :ohdear:

Driving a mobility scooter with a max of 7mph myself, I cannot imagine any mobility scooter holding up traffic for even a minute let alone 10, especially if in a cross walk at an intersection... unless of course they were drunk and on a joy ride. Even then... 10 minutes? I can go a half mile in 10 minutes.

Golf carts will be banned when the Morse family register as Democrats!!!Did someone say something about elephants flying? :1rotfl:

[pqrstar]

How would anyone get their golf cart to the golf courses if they were banned?

Here is a link to the golf cart safety brochure.
(you may have to scroll down a little)

Village Community Development Districts (http://www.districtgov.org/PdfView/PdfView.aspx?path='/PdfUpload/GolfCartBrochure.pdf'&ql=standard)

Also, found this at the Homeowners' Association website

The VHA Golf Cart Safety Clinics are held the third Wed. of each month with he exception of December always at 10:00am at Savannah Center and are free to The Villages residents.

[Barefoot]

Good question. Canadian DLs valid in the USA?

Yes, Canadian licenses are valid here, and your licenses are valid in Canada.

[hedoman]

Not taking a stance one way or the other. But with data being collected it could open up some liability questions perhaps.

Will we ban cars on the road as they have more accidents...think about it

[villages07]

:clap2: Thanks for your responses. Mischief was my motive plus some concern.

The OP admits "mischief" was one of his motives for starting this thread. There is no truth nor even a rumor that such a move to ban golf carts is being considered. This thread has generated some thoughtful replies but also fed into some unnecessary hysteria.

Let's not worry too much about something not even remotely on the radar. There are enough real topics worthy of our collective wisdom where our positive energy can be focused.

All IMHO, of course.

[graciegirl]

The OP admits "mischief" was one of his motives for starting this thread. There is no truth nor even a rumor that such a move to ban golf carts is being considered. This thread has generated some thoughtful replies but also fed into some unnecessary hysteria.

Let's not worry too much about something not even remotely on the radar. There are enough real topics worthy of our collective wisdom where our positive energy can be focused.

All IMHO, of course.

Village07, Always the voice of reason and good cause for summary.

but I must add....

In some golf course communities, the only carts allowed on the course are the ones owned by the course. Our friends live in such a posh community in Sarasota and the cart fees are twenty five dollars a round.

You must also pay LARGE initiation fees each time you buy there (they have had two homes) and the monthly fee of approximately six hundred dollars, not including the club house meals fee that must be paid whether you use it up or not. Very typical of a upscale private country club.

We have almost all of that at a very reasonable price. We are so lucky.

Consider this a hijack. Topicop will be here soon.

[l2ridehd]

Golf carts will never be banned. What will happen over time is more regulation. The local government in it's never ending quest for more money will view carts as a cash cow. There will be inspections, speed tests, registrations, licenses, all in the name of safety and your protection. Isn't government wonderful to be so concerned about us?

And then the insurance companies will want there piece of the pie and cost of insurance will increase to the point where some people will give up their carts.

[villages07]

L2...perhaps that is where things are heading. Sumter County is the governing body (for the majority of the Villages) and the commissioners and Sheriff are elected by the voters. I think if they start messing with us too much they will see an increase in Villages voter activism that will result in "pro-resident" candidates running for and winning office. So, they also have a vested interest in keeping us happy.

[buggyone]

12ridehd writes "There will be inspections, speed tests, registrations, licenses, all in the name of safety and your protection. Isn't government wonderful to be so concerned about us?

And then the insurance companies will want there piece of the pie and cost of insurance will increase to the point where some people will give up their carts."
Personally, I do not think all of that is a bad idea. The speed tests, registration, and insurance should be mandatory on golf carts. With over 50,000 golf carts in The Villages, these ideas could not hurt the community.

[graciegirl]

12ridehd writes "There will be inspections, speed tests, registrations, licenses, all in the name of safety and your protection. Isn't government wonderful to be so concerned about us?

And then the insurance companies will want there piece of the pie and cost of insurance will increase to the point where some people will give up their carts."
Personally, I do not think all of that is a bad idea. The speed tests, registration, and insurance should be mandatory on golf carts. With over 50,000 golf carts in The Villages, these ideas could not hurt the community.


Well, it is a way to create jobs...........................:popcorn:

[Posh 08]

Golf carts will never be banned. What will happen over time is more regulation. The local government in it's never ending quest for more money will view carts as a cash cow. There will be inspections, speed tests, registrations, licenses, all in the name of safety and your protection. Isn't government wonderful to be so concerned about us?

And then the insurance companies will want there piece of the pie and cost of insurance will increase to the point where some people will give up their carts.

Good morning all. This has turned into a zesty thread. I would tend to agree that somewhere along the line some government folks would like to see fees. 50,000 x $25. Not bad.

[eweissenbach]

This could potentially eliminate folks driving carts that come for a LS visit. Any thoughts on our to educate them?

Easy - have them take an online course, followed by an online exam. They could then print out a license. Not perfect, but would require most people to at least study the rules of the road prior to getting into a cart. They could be told that was a prerequisite when they call to book a lifestyle preview.

[eweissenbach]

Please no more talk of having a license to drive a golf cart. This is just plain silly. Would your auto drivers license be good enough. This is a very safe place to drive your cart. If you are having problems in your cart maybe its your fault.We do not need studies to tell us where accidents have taken place. Everyone just drive defensive and you will not have any problem. Just what we need here "special license to drive a cart or a bike or under 50 cc motorcycle. Watch what you ask for.

are you saying everyone should have to take a class because you need one?
lets get serious!!!

Taking an online class and test would be an easy solution and should be required for EVERYONE. Driving a cart and the rules for them are somewhat different from driving a car.

[Bogie Shooter]

Bill, please fire up the popper!
:popcorn:

[2BNTV]

Are golf carts going to be banned?

NO!!!

As Sgt. Estaurhaus said: "Let's be careful out there".

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Bill, please fire up the popper!
:popcorn:

........ As Sgt. Estaurhaus said: "Let's be careful out there".

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

Hill Street Blues - 'Let's be careful out there' - YouTube



Popcorn's hot and ready!!! :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :D Pass it on down - - -

Bill :wave:

[RichieLion]

It really really bothers me that so many want more interference in their daily lives, as if we don't have enough.

"Please Big Brother, save us from ourselves"..........Bah!!

[ajdeck]

My understanding is that carts are allowed on streets in TV because of a special waiver/exemption in the vehicle code passed by the legislature. As mentioned above, previously carts were only allowed in daylight hours. If the legislature can allow carts on streets, it can also ban them. All it would take is for someone to decide to sue declaring that the state/county/locality created an unsafe situation that resulted in injury (the Morse bridge crossing) and our use of carts could be examined and revoked. Think of the buffalo situation.

I would expect the political clout of the Morse's and the importance of TV to Sumter county would prevent that, but you just don't know.

Bottom line is to be careful out there with carts. They're not toys. And for those who get a thrill from their 35 mph carts, you just might kill the golden goose.


That's where I think TV has gotten caried away - street legal carts.

It should be restricted to low mph carts and on carts paths or trails/streets at set a side for them. If you need to go that fast then what are you doing in retirement? Also, if you need to go that fast best take your car, it goes even faster.

[rubicon]

Now with accident numbers being collected and maybe or maybe not golf cart accidents are on the rise. Will golf carts always be allowed on TV streets and paths?

Posh08....By the time they collect sufficient data to make a reliabe and supportable claim most of us will be with our ancestors. That is my way of saying compiling such stats for cart use is just plain silly.;albeit it may help solidify that multi-modal paths were not the brightest creation.

My guess is that the majority of people having problems with driving their carts are the same people who are having trouble driving their cars.

[paulandjean]

Study the rules of the road. You have to be kidding, Golf cart instruction,here it is. key on,gas,brake, lights, turn signal, forward and reverse. stop and go. What in the world do we need instruction for. I would feel insulted to take a test to drive a golf cart. Money maker is the only reason they would think of license for carts. Do not give them any ideas.

[Villages PL]

You are so right, any driver of a golf cart needs to be licensed to drive them. And this includes people renting.

One of the big attractions that brings many people to the villages is the right to drive a golf cart when they can no longer drive a car. That's partly what a golf cart community is all about; it's not just about golfing.

I knew a woman who came here from New York City and had never driven a car and probably couldn't afford one. So she bought a golf cart. Granted, she was a terrible driver and eventually side swiped a car. :) But not everyone is going to do that and there is a big demand for this lifestyle.

I own a car and have never owned a golf cart. But I would think twice about requiring golf cart drivers to be licensed. We are all getting older and may need to use a golf cart in the future, when we no longer qualify for a driver's license.

In the mean time, be careful. When you see a golf cart, don't assume it will stop at stop signs and don't assume it will not run you over as you go for your walk. :duck:

[eweissenbach]

Study the rules of the road. You have to be kidding, Golf cart instruction,here it is. key on,gas,brake, lights, turn signal, forward and reverse. stop and go. What in the world do we need instruction for. I would feel insulted to take a test to drive a golf cart. Money maker is the only reason they would think of license for carts. Do not give them any ideas.

YOU have to be kidding. You really think people would not benefit from knowing how to handle situations that are particular to golf carts, golf cart paths, merging, where to exit, how to handle tunnels, who has right-of-way, what streets and areas are off limits, among others? I think most people can learn these things relatively quickly, but would save a lot of the learning curve, and possible problems, by taking a quick online course and exam. Maybe I'm the only one but I would have been happy to have some instruction on the rules and particular traffic flow of TV prior to coming here. I was a driver education instructor for many years, so maybe I am more sensitive to the situation than others.

[rubicon]

Study the rules of the road. You have to be kidding, Golf cart instruction,here it is. key on,gas,brake, lights, turn signal, forward and reverse. stop and go. What in the world do we need instruction for. I would feel insulted to take a test to drive a golf cart. Money maker is the only reason they would think of license for carts. Do not give them any ideas.

pauland jean....whoooa! key, gas, brake forward reverse you are going too fast for me :MOJE_whot:

[CarGuys]

The carts don't need to be banned, but the drivers of carts need to be licensed, just like for autos. Seems that not one cart driver knows what STOP means or when or where you should just stop, like never stop in the lanes of travel, especially on a curve. Ban some drivers, its not the carts fault.

As you may know there is a cure for ignorance, but stupid has not cure.

It's like folks have been forced to obey vehicle traffic laws and then get a cart and it all goes to Heck! Still rules of the road for common sense safety!

Ignorance can be fixed with education but stupidity takes great salesmanship

[Skybo]

I don’t discount the number of accidents caused by bad golf cart drivers, but I think the most prevalent and dangerous problems that cart drivers face are the speeding and inattentive vehicle drivers that we share the roads with.

And from what I’ve seen, contractors and delivery drivers are the absolute worst offenders. Every single day, while driving down St. Charles I see contractor trucks pulling trailers or large delivery trucks going 10 or 15 mph over the speed limit. When they pass carts travelling in the cart lane they either blast by them within a foot or two or else they cross over the center line. They do this regardless of oncoming vehicle traffic, which results in the oncoming vehicles swerving into the cart lane on their side of the road. It’s just human nature and instinct to pull to the right when you suddenly see an oncoming vehicle in your lane, and one of these days there is going to be a golf cart there when it happens.

I frequently see contractor and delivery trucks, as well as personal cars, roll through stop signs and into the cart lane before they even start to look to the left. Those folks are usually talking on a cell phone. And I’ve almost been sucked out of the cart lane by large speeding trucks. Southern Lifestyle Furniture delivery drivers are especially bad about that (speeding on St. Charles). I can’t wait until all of the construction and landscaping is finished in the Tamarind Grove area. I just hope that the residents of TG, St. James and the other Villages along St Charles live that long. We’ve already had one cart driver fatality caused by a landscaping vehicle.

Having said all that, I agree that some kind of mandatory golf cart safety briefing would be a good idea. It may be easy to drive a cart, but it’s also pretty easy to turn them over, which new cart drivers may not realize. More than anything, there are a lot of defensive driving tactics specific to driving a cart in TV which would greatly benefit anyone who hasn’t already learned them the hard way.

[Mikeod]

Having said all that, I agree that some kind of mandatory golf cart safety briefing would be a good idea. It may be easy to drive a cart, but it’s also pretty easy to turn them over, which new cart drivers may not realize. More than anything, there are a lot of defensive driving tactics specific to driving a cart in TV which would greatly benefit anyone who hasn’t already learned them the hard way.
I don't disagree about trucks and cars intruding on carts, but I also see carts that don't seem to be able to stay in their dedicated lane, drifting over the line and back. And those drivers who can't seem to keep their knees and legs inside the cart. Add them together and you get a dangerous interaction between body parts and cars. And that may be a reason cars and trucks cross the double yellow when passing a cart.

Since TV is designed as a golf cart community, it would be advantageous for there to be some information regarding cart rules of the road presented to new owners of both new and resale homes. I know there are plenty who will scoff at the idea, "I've driven golf carts before. I know how to do it." But I'll bet they haven't driven golf carts sharing the road with large trucks and cars. And driving a cart at 20 mph is different from the 10-15 on a golf course. A golf course is different from what we have here.

[Skybo]

I don't disagree about trucks and cars intruding on carts, but I also see carts that don't seem to be able to stay in their dedicated lane, drifting over the line and back. And those drivers who can't seem to keep their knees and legs inside the cart. Add them together and you get a dangerous interaction between body parts and cars. And that may be a reason cars and trucks cross the double yellow when passing a cart.

Since TV is designed as a golf cart community, it would be advantageous for there to be some information regarding cart rules of the road presented to new owners of both new and resale homes. I know there are plenty who will scoff at the idea, "I've driven golf carts before. I know how to do it." But I'll bet they haven't driven golf carts sharing the road with large trucks and cars. And driving a cart at 20 mph is different from the 10-15 on a golf course. A golf course is different from what we have here.

Yep, I completely agree!!

[billethkid]

studying the rules, taking and passing the driver's test, registering the vehicle and learning the laws for vehicle ownership......all of what has been proposed for golf carts already exists for the motor vehicles on our streets called CARS and it certainly has had no effect on the safety, accident rates, carelessness, etc.....as was said earlier in the thread it ain't the vehicles it is the nuts behind the wheel.

I always maintain TV is FL friendliest hometown....unless they are behind the wheel!!

Just adding the the humor of the thread:)

btk

[graciegirl]

The length of this thread so quickly, the number of posts, the intensity of the responses, shows how much we LOVE driving around in golf carts.

You Dickens Posh...doing this to push our buttons. Well it worked!!!

[Gerald]

Lets think about this, cars go speeds always upto and over the speed limit and weight tons. Golf carts go about 20mph and weight is much less. Now this may be just a thought but which one do you think would create the most damage. If a ban should ever be needed it would be on cars in the villages.

[paulandjean]

No I am not kidding. When I turned in my state drivers license for my Florida state license there was no test. They did not inform me of the tunnels and roundabouts here in the villages,then way should I have to be informed about golf cart safety,they do think so. Just another money maker idea. Watch what you are wishing for.

[Nelsc]

How about for starts just banning GAS golf carts or at least requiring them to have emission control. Walking and biking in the Villages is miserable. Every time a gas golf cart passes, or you go through a tunnel, you get a snoot full of nasty smelling exhaust. Real healthy. Never mind fearing for your life on the multi-model paths and streets if you are on foot or a bicycle . The truth of the matter is the Villages is poorly designed for all the types of traffic and the number of users. There are no sidewalks (except south of 466 on the main boulevards which is a start) and no walking or biking trails that do not permit motorized vehicles. In a community of senior citizens that is INSANE! One of the main forms of exercise in that age group is WALKING & BIKING! The so called Springdale fitness trail is a golf cart path. Try relaxing and going for a walk when you are dodging golf carts and inhaling fumes. I am not against golf carts as a mode of transportation, but plan the community to accommodate all types of traffic that is going to be permitted. The streets are simply not wide enough for cars and golf carts and bicycles and walkers and dog walkers! There is no wonder why there are many accidents...I just can't figure out why there aren't a lot more walkers and bicyclist killed!

[memason]

How about for starts just banning GAS golf carts or at least requiring them to have emission control. Walking and biking in the Villages is miserable. Every time a gas golf cart passes, or you go through a tunnel, you get a snoot full of nasty smelling exhaust. Real healthy. Never mind fearing for your life on the multi-model paths and streets if you are on foot or a bicycle . The truth of the matter is the Villages is poorly designed for all the types of traffic and the number of users. There are no sidewalks (except south of 466 on the main boulevards which is a start) and no walking or biking trails that do not permit motorized vehicles. In a community of senior citizens that is INSANE! One of the main forms of exercise in that age group is WALKING & BIKING! The so called Springdale fitness trail is a golf cart path. Try relaxing and going for a walk when you are dodging golf carts and inhaling fumes. I am not against golf carts as a mode of transportation, but plan the community to accommodate all types of traffic that is going to be permitted. The streets are simply not wide enough for cars and golf carts and bicycles and walkers and dog walkers! There is no wonder why there are many accidents...I just can't figure out why there aren't a lot more walkers and bicyclist killed!

Are you sure you're living in The Villages, Florida ????

Just saying . . . :shocked:

[Bogie Shooter]

How about for starts just banning GAS golf carts or at least requiring them to have emission control. Walking and biking in the Villages is miserable. Every time a gas golf cart passes, or you go through a tunnel, you get a snoot full of nasty smelling exhaust. Real healthy. Never mind fearing for your life on the multi-model paths and streets if you are on foot or a bicycle . The truth of the matter is the Villages is poorly designed for all the types of traffic and the number of users. There are no sidewalks (except south of 466 on the main boulevards which is a start) and no walking or biking trails that do not permit motorized vehicles. In a community of senior citizens that is INSANE! One of the main forms of exercise in that age group is WALKING & BIKING! The so called Springdale fitness trail is a golf cart path. Try relaxing and going for a walk when you are dodging golf carts and inhaling fumes. I am not against golf carts as a mode of transportation, but plan the community to accommodate all types of traffic that is going to be permitted. The streets are simply not wide enough for cars and golf carts and bicycles and walkers and dog walkers! There is no wonder why there are many accidents...I just can't figure out why there aren't a lot more walkers and bicyclist killed!

So, did you buy your place sight unseen.......and discover all these problems after you moved in? Funny you did not notice there were no sidewalks in Chatham.

[Villages PL]

No it doesn't answer it. Please do. Will they be banned in the future because of accidents?

Perhaps there might be a compromise between banning and not banning. For example: They might consider lowering the maximum speed of a cart to 16 mph.. :)

[Villages PL]

Are you sure you're living in The Villages, Florida ????

Just saying . . . :shocked:

There are two Villages: One in the summer when you can cross a major boulevard and there's no traffic in sight. And then there's the "winter Villages," a time when streets can be busy.

[paulandjean]

Would you be willing to ban automobiles burning gasoline,or just golf carts burning gas?

[Bogie Shooter]

Bill, we need more popcorn!

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Sorry, Bogie.......choking on fumes here.....gasoline powered popper....gasp....

:duck:

Bill :) :popcorn:

[2BNTV]

The length of this thread so quickly, the number of posts, the intensity of the responses, shows how much we LOVE driving around in golf carts.

You Dickens Posh...doing this to push our buttons. Well it worked!!!

MY right leg is now pulled 2 inches longer than my left leg. :) VIVA GOLF CARTS!!!!!!

I have to go eat some popcorn. :)

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[skyguy79]

Bill, we need more popcorn!

Sorry, Bogie.......choking on fumes here.....gasoline powered popper....gasp....

:duck:

Bill :) :popcorn:The two of you just gave me a brilliant idea.
http://static.wix.com/media/bcd89310bd9abdf230aa6e2b4a18cc1b.wix_mp_128

The two of you could get together and develop a golf cart engine that runs on popcorn! :throwtomatoes:

[Bill-n-Brillo]

skyguy - - - - Having a "liquid dinner" tonight??? :1rotfl:

Bill :)

[Villages PL]

Would you be willing to ban automobiles burning gasoline,or just golf carts burning gas?

Cars have emissions control devices but I don't believe the same can be said for golf carts. I'm not taking sides, I'm just stating what I believe to be a fact.

I just remembered something. Way back in 1969, while camping at Florida Campland, I met a retired man with emphyzema. When the conversation came around to how he thought he might have gotten it, he said he worked for many years repairing small engines. With the garage door open, he would start them up briefly after repairing them, to see how they would run. I imagine it's not all that different than the brief exposure one might get in a tunnel.

Chronic lung disease became the 3rd. leading cause of death in 2008.

[Campbell soup]

By the looks of your avatar...you are a cruiser. I would be worried after the Italy incident that cruise ships not golf carts would be band LOL.......

[Frank7]

I was an invited guest at the FRUITLAND PARK CITY COMMISION meeting
This past week and they had the first reading for adopting an ordenence
To make FRUITLAND PARK a golf cart friendly city.
This would allow both golf carts & LSV vehicles to be used on there streets with speed limits under 35 MPH.
This New ordenence was presented to increase commerce in that city.
just as a note the ordenence included an annual safety inspection of the vehicles
Presented by the police dept.
So to answer the original question, no I don't think golf carts would be eliminated from The Villages just better awareness of the carful use of the carts and maintaining good equipment.

[Nelsc]

You might think it is funny inhaling gasoline fumes from your gas golf carts, but when you are dead from lung disease, who will have the last laugh then?? Me, with my :popcorn:, because there will be one less Villager in a gas golf cart!

[paulandjean]

WOW, What do you do when they come over and cut your grass,Gas mower, gas trimers, gas blowers.

[Barefoot]

You might think it is funny inhaling gasoline fumes from your gas golf carts, but when you are dead from lung disease, who will have the last laugh then?? Me, with my :popcorn:, because there will be one less Villager in a gas golf cart!

Unfortunately, it is the other drivers in the tunnel following the smelly gas cart who inhale most of the fumes. :ohdear: I'm ducking now. :duck:

[graciegirl]

You might think it is funny inhaling gasoline fumes from your gas golf carts, but when you are dead from lung disease, who will have the last laugh then?? Me, with my :popcorn:, because there will be one less Villager in a gas golf cart!


Boy Howdy.

[The Village Girl]

You might think it is funny inhaling gasoline fumes from your gas golf carts, but when you are dead from lung disease, who will have the last laugh then?? Me, with my :popcorn:, because there will be one less Villager in a gas golf cart!

Somebody didn't have their coffee this morning..... :mornincoffee:

[mrdills]

Golf cart won't be band because the Villages make too much money off them, but the price of Insurance will be going up so hang on to your wallets, maybe they can price the Insurance the same as they do LSV's...........