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jblum315
02-13-2012, 04:08 AM
There is a house in Hadley on Odell with a huge wall (looks like 12 ft.) New construction on an existing house. Do they allow you to build a 12-ft. wall?
graciegirl
02-13-2012, 07:06 AM
Wow. I wouldn't think so. I think you should ask the proper folks on that one. That goes against everything I have ever heard.
Rather than a wall could it be an extension to their home? I am sure you would know that 'cause you are one smart cookie.
Keep us posted.
getdul981
02-13-2012, 07:21 AM
Question - What if someone did build a wall that was not "allowed", who is going to make them take it down?
skip0358
02-13-2012, 07:36 AM
If it's the same house I saw they're putting a large extension on. There was a permit board on the property. That being said ARB had to approve it.Unlike many states up north the owner does NOT have to inform theier neighbors of the plans nor is there an open hearing. So see it when it starts. I just wish a visit to the premises was made before instead of looking a the lao drawing. This way a let's see how it may affect the neighbors can come into play before approval. JMO
graciegirl
02-13-2012, 07:40 AM
Question - What if someone did build a wall that was not "allowed", who is going to make them take it down?
"They" can make them take it down. The deed restrictions are alive and well. I had personal knowledge of someone having to take down a structure placed too close to property line.
asianthree
02-13-2012, 07:51 AM
If they are adding a pool it may be a waterfall or a slide on that wall have seen a few like that while playing golf
getdul981
02-13-2012, 07:55 AM
"They" can make them take it down. The deed restrictions are alive and well. I had personal knowledge of someone having to take down a structure placed too close to property line.
I understand what you're saying, but what will "they" do if you say "No, I'm not taking it down"? Do "they" have any legal powers to enforce the restrictions?
skip0358
02-13-2012, 08:04 AM
Read todays DS. There is an article on a pending case in CCD#2. They do have authority to have it removed IF the ARB votes that way. Again complaint drive. When it doubt call and ask.
skyguy79
02-13-2012, 08:51 AM
If it's just east of the mail station and adult pool on the same side of the street, it looks like it will be an extension of the home with a large ground hole inside it where it appears a swimming pool will go in. I think that this may be the same place that was recently discussed in another thread concerning an house extension being added for, IIRC a grandchild.
getdul981
02-13-2012, 09:16 AM
I wasn't trying to create any ill feelings or stir up anything, but I'll tell you what our builder told us when we closed on this house. He told us that he knew of someone that did a landscaping job that infringed on the normal flow of water on the property. One of his neighbors complained to "they" and "they" told him he had to remove it. He said that he wasn't going to remove it and didn't. Our builder said that it still hadn't been removed. I don't know about this first hand. Just what our builder told us.
graciegirl
02-13-2012, 09:21 AM
I wasn't trying to create any ill feelings or stir up anything, but I'll tell you what our builder told us when we closed on this house. He told us that he knew of someone that did a landscaping job that infringed on the normal flow of water on the property. One of his neighbors complained to "they" and "they" told him he had to remove it. He said that he wasn't going to remove it and didn't. Our builder said that it still hadn't been removed. I don't know about this first hand. Just what our builder told us.
Those construction folks have told me some interesting stuff and MOST of it turned out to be dead on true to the facts and other stuff, not so much.
But I would think that the builder, being the lead guy and all would know what he is talkin' about.
I just know that all the deed restrictions are a good thing for all of us and protect us against this place looking shabby and functioning as well as it does.
skyguy79
02-13-2012, 09:33 AM
I wasn't trying to create any ill feelings or stir up anything, but I'll tell you what our builder told us when we closed on this house. He told us that he knew of someone that did a landscaping job that infringed on the normal flow of water on the property. One of his neighbors complained to "they" and "they" told him he had to remove it. He said that he wasn't going to remove it and didn't. Our builder said that it still hadn't been removed. I don't know about this first hand. Just what our builder told us.Based on what you were told and the accuracy of the information you were given, I would think that unless the water flow was really a problem, the legal costs of persuing the enforcement of the order to remove would not be justified by what it could accomplish. I would be appreciative of a CDD for being prudent in how they spend our CDD's funds!
BTW, I for one do not think you were trying to create any ill feelings at all, and as for stirring any pot, just remember that any of us can present a pot, but it takes the hands others to get any stirring going! :icon_wink:
Pturner
02-13-2012, 09:57 AM
I wasn't trying to create any ill feelings or stir up anything, but I'll tell you what our builder told us when we closed on this house. He told us that he knew of someone that did a landscaping job that infringed on the normal flow of water on the property. One of his neighbors complained to "they" and "they" told him he had to remove it. He said that he wasn't going to remove it and didn't. Our builder said that it still hadn't been removed. I don't know about this first hand. Just what our builder told us.
Getdul,this is interesting. Do you know how long ago the owner was told to remove it? An explanation could be that it's undergoing administrative or legal appeal; or it could be that owner was given x amount of time to comply. Not sure what the process is for "their" ability to enforce deed restrictions.
I wonder if "they" can/do suspend amenity privledges for refusal to comply?
mulligan
02-13-2012, 10:11 AM
P, you'll have to excuse me for a senior moment. I can't remember where I found them, but some of the older districts have established a schedule of fines for specific infractions, which, I believe can become liens on the property. Eventually, I'll remember where I read it.
RichieB
02-13-2012, 10:15 AM
P, you'll have to excuse me for a senior moment.......... Eventually, I'll remember where I read it.
He'll find it.......... aannyy day now........:icon_wink::)
spk7951
02-13-2012, 10:20 AM
Question - What if someone did build a wall that was not "allowed", who is going to make them take it down?
That depends upon what district the structure is located in. The following quote is from the VCDD Deed Compliance web site:
"Village Community Development District Nos. 6-10, currently, are not
qualified to adopt a Rule to Enforce External Deed Restrictions and
are under the Developer’s responsibility."
Now since this wall is located in district 7 then it sounds as though it is an issue for the developer if there is no ARC approval. The other districts do have fine enforcements, which could lead to foreclosure for violations.
spk7951
02-13-2012, 10:21 AM
P, you'll have to excuse me for a senior moment. I can't remember where I found them, but some of the older districts have established a schedule of fines for specific infractions, which, I believe can become liens on the property. Eventually, I'll remember where I read it.
VCDD Community Standards (http://www.districtgov.org/departments/Community-Standards/community-standards.aspx)
angiefox10
02-13-2012, 10:26 AM
I wasn't trying to create any ill feelings or stir up anything, but I'll tell you what our builder told us when we closed on this house. He told us that he knew of someone that did a landscaping job that infringed on the normal flow of water on the property. One of his neighbors complained to "they" and "they" told him he had to remove it. He said that he wasn't going to remove it and didn't. Our builder said that it still hadn't been removed. I don't know about this first hand. Just what our builder told us.
When we met with our builder and I mentioned fixtures in the front yard, He told us that any "fixtures" in the front yard were not allowed. I mentioned a couple of beautiful water falls in a premier area in the front yards. He said they were not allowed.
I just wonder if this was the same property "your builder" was referring to?
He said that no matter how beautiful they were... they were not allowed.
Warren Kiefer
02-13-2012, 11:14 AM
You folk just don't know what one neighbor can do to another neighbor. I suggest all of you interested people drive over to Zaragoza Place in Palo Alto and see the beginnings of a wall that will be 12 feet to 15 feet high above their neighbors property and will be more than 80 feet long. This wall is the one found under "corrections" in Mondays Daily Sun. A major portion of this wall is not an extension of the home but in fact is a pool enclosure.
NotGolfer
02-13-2012, 11:43 AM
As others said...this is an extension of a lanai..with a pool and looks to me like a hottub or water feature too. I think "the wall" is for privacy and probably will be stucco'd like the rest of the house. It doesn't seem to be a wall as one would describe a "wall" to me and is only on the one end!! It appears to have smaller "slots" on top..maybe for windows. It seems to be taking a long time to finish this project...but that being said, they're probably waiting for the "subs" to come and do their thing. It'll be interesting to see the finished project! That home is going to be huge with that new lanai along with the two added rooms and bathroom. :popcorn:
duffysmom
02-13-2012, 12:08 PM
I know of a case where someone complained about landscaping being too close to the road. This was extensive with curbing. He was told to remove it. He called Janet Tutt whoinvestigated and informed him that it was measured and was legal so it stayed. Always to to the top if there is any question. By the way the complaintant was another landscaping company.:ohdear:
cquick
02-13-2012, 02:57 PM
Question - What if someone did build a wall that was not "allowed", who is going to make them take it down?
that's a good question, Greg. I have seen construction removed and whole fences replaced in Hunter's Creek, where we came from if they didn't go by the Home Owners deed, and if they didn't fill out the proper forms and permissions.
One house was completely painted this awful color....DEFINITLY not on the deed restrictions.....they had to have it repainted.
Irishmen
02-13-2012, 07:15 PM
If not corrected the Villages will remedy the situation and place a lien on your property and will recover the cost if and when you sell or transfer property. Count on it.
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