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Guest
02-20-2012, 06:00 AM
I have been reading some very disagreeable posts. So may I suggest that we all start off by some portion of agreement. And if you cannot agree, then at least acknowledge a person's comments with a "I understand how you would come to that conclusion; however let me share with you another point of view."

I do expect at least one smart aleck response:cold:

Communication tools such as this are for learning by sharing of ideas I am not feeling that right now:confused:

Guest
02-20-2012, 06:27 AM
I have been reading some very disagreeable posts. So may I suggest that we all start off by some portion of agreement. And if you cannot agree, then at least acknowledge a person's comments with a "I understand how you would come to that conclusion; however let me share with you another point of view."

I do expect at least one smart aleck response:cold:

Communication tools such as this are for learning by sharing of ideas I am not feeling that right now:confused:

I am with you on this. I will start:

Obama is an intelligent president and has given us hope, but I feel his approach to fixing the economy is falling short of the mark. We need more reduction in subsidies to big business and social programs.

Guest
02-20-2012, 10:39 AM
I have been reading some very disagreeable posts. So may I suggest that we all start off by some portion of agreement. And if you cannot agree, then at least acknowledge a person's comments with a "I understand how you would come to that conclusion; however let me share with you another point of view."

I do expect at least one smart aleck response:cold:

Communication tools such as this are for learning by sharing of ideas I am not feeling that right now:confused:

What if you cannot understand how someone came to their conclusion?

When one's views are in stark contrast to another's, it's always going to be deemed "disagreeable", no matter the verbiage.

Just my opinion.

Guest
02-20-2012, 11:06 AM
I have been reading some very disagreeable posts. So may I suggest that we all start off by some portion of agreement. And if you cannot agree, then at least acknowledge a person's comments with a "I understand how you would come to that conclusion; however let me share with you another point of view."

I do expect at least one smart aleck response:cold:

Communication tools such as this are for learning by sharing of ideas I am not feeling that right now:confused:

What about all the "one liners" whose sole purpose is to start an argument?

Guest
02-20-2012, 11:15 AM
If you just listen to Rick Santorum talk about "phony theology" and medical tests leading to abortion as a goal of Obama how can anyone try to civilly respond to that? :mad:
Having said that I can only hope that Santorum gets the nomination. :D

Guest
02-20-2012, 11:27 AM
If you just listen to Rick Santorum talk about "phony theology" and medical tests leading to abortion as a goal of Obama how can anyone try to civilly respond to that? :mad:
Having said that I can only hope that Santorum gets the nomination. :D

Santorum should be a lithiums test. If you like him, you have a twisted mentality.

Guest
02-20-2012, 11:52 AM
Maybe we should start with something a little easier... the Earth is round.

(Go for it Richie!)

Xavier

Guest
02-20-2012, 11:54 AM
Santorum should be a lithiums test. If you like him, you have a twisted mentality.

My desire to have Santorum be the Republican nominee is that he doesn't have a ghost of a chance to win the election. Americans are far to intelligent and humane that to support someone with such extreme views. :doh:

Guest
02-20-2012, 12:17 PM
My desire to have Santorum be the Republican nominee is that he doesn't have a ghost of a chance to win the election. Americans are far to intelligent and humane that to support someone with such extreme views. :doh:

I agree with you, but for whatever reason, there are some on this site that think he is A GOOD MAN. I just cannot for the life of me understand how someone with such obvious prejudices have supporters unless they also harbor the same despicable prejudices.

Guest
02-20-2012, 12:37 PM
nice TRY rubicon to get a discussion above school yard banter.

btk

Guest
02-20-2012, 12:41 PM
Santorum should be a lithiums test. If you like him, you have a twisted mentality.

Just call me KrazeeKatz! I love the guy and praying that he is innaugurated next January as President of these United States of America!

Guest
02-20-2012, 01:13 PM
Just call me KrazeeKatz! I love the guy and praying that he is innaugurated next January as President of these United States of America!

I know Katz, but this guy is filled with so much hate, I just cannot believe he has a chance. His dream of America is WHITE and Heterosexual and no room for anything else. We just can't go back to that 1950's mentality.

Guest
02-20-2012, 01:23 PM
Santorum should be a lithiums test. If you like him, you have a twisted mentality.

I do not support Santorum for the nomination, nor do I think he has a shot at it, HOWEVER...

This post which attacks him and his followers is sort of the anti post for this thread.....wow...if you dont agree..attack him and his folowers personally !!

Guest
02-20-2012, 01:38 PM
I do not support Santorum for the nomination, nor do I think he has a shot at it, HOWEVER...

This post which attacks him and his followers is sort of the anti post for this thread.....wow...if you dont agree..attack him and his folowers personally !!

I think I see what you mean. I meant no disrespect for the followers of this redneck racist idiot and apologize if they took it that way.

Guest
02-20-2012, 01:44 PM
Villager II,

It is not nice to call Santorum a redneck racist idiot. He is not a redneck.

Guest
02-20-2012, 02:41 PM
Liberals are craaaaaaaazzzzy
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/wakytimes/Unknown.jpg

Guest
02-20-2012, 03:09 PM
If you just listen to Rick Santorum talk about "phony theology" and medical tests leading to abortion as a goal of Obama how can anyone try to civilly respond to that? :mad:
Having said that I can only hope that Santorum gets the nomination. :D




And he picks Palin as his running mate ........

Guest
02-20-2012, 03:10 PM
Liberals are craaaaaaaazzzzy
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/wakytimes/Unknown.jpg





What a coincidence - those were Osama Bin Laden's last words .....

Guest
02-20-2012, 03:29 PM
i think most people who have read my occasional posts would say that i choose my words wisely and make cogent arguments...i am very much a santorum supporter, but i have actually heard him speak in person, where one hears the entire remarks in context, and is not subjected only to twisted, outrageous snipets. the "theology" remark to which daleMN refers was from a speech about the green extremism which puts the earth above the needs of man, rather than viewing man as a steward of its resources for the betterment of mankind. this is not a christian theology but it is nevertheless a warped world view, or "theology". the remark about amneioscentesis was to point out that this procedure, although serious enough to risk a miscarriage, is used mainly to determine if a child is going to be handicapped in any way, and then the family is encouraged to abort..this is undeniably true...rush made a very good analogy today about how quickly "Pro choice" liberals would change their tune if a prenatal test could determine whether a child would be homosexual, and then encouraged to be aborted. suddenly all the left wing would see the inhumanity of this! but they cannot seem to see it for a disabled person. all life has worth and reason for being. every outrageous thing you hear has a very good explanation if you will only seek it out...this man speaks truth, and truth is written on our hearts.

Guest
02-20-2012, 04:25 PM
i think most people who have read my occasional posts would say that i choose my words wisely and make cogent arguments...i am very much a santorum supporter, but i have actually heard him speak in person, where one hears the entire remarks in context, and is not subjected only to twisted, outrageous snipets. the "theology" remark to which daleMN refers was from a speech about the green extremism which puts the earth above the needs of man, rather than viewing man as a steward of its resources for the betterment of mankind. this is not a christian theology but it is nevertheless a warped world view, or "theology". the remark about amneioscentesis was to point out that this procedure, although serious enough to risk a miscarriage, is used mainly to determine if a child is going to be handicapped in any way, and then the family is encouraged to abort..this is undeniably true...rush made a very good analogy today about how quickly "Pro choice" liberals would change their tune if a prenatal test could determine whether a child would be homosexual, and then encouraged to be aborted. suddenly all the left wing would see the inhumanity of this! but they cannot seem to see it for a disabled person. all life has worth and reason for being. every outrageous thing you hear has a very good explanation if you will only seek it out...this man speaks truth, and truth is written on our hearts.

Thank you chachacha!
I was pregnant in the beginning of the era that presented a waiver if you did not want the amniocentesis done. I signed it, as I was planning to give birth no matter what the test would find. So why go through a painful procedure for no reason whatsoever.

Guest
02-20-2012, 04:35 PM
i think most people who have read my occasional posts would say that i choose my words wisely and make cogent arguments...i am very much a santorum supporter, but i have actually heard him speak in person, where one hears the entire remarks in context, and is not subjected only to twisted, outrageous snipets. the "theology" remark to which daleMN refers was from a speech about the green extremism which puts the earth above the needs of man, rather than viewing man as a steward of its resources for the betterment of mankind. this is not a christian theology but it is nevertheless a warped world view, or "theology". the remark about amneioscentesis was to point out that this procedure, although serious enough to risk a miscarriage, is used mainly to determine if a child is going to be handicapped in any way, and then the family is encouraged to abort..this is undeniably true...rush made a very good analogy today about how quickly "Pro choice" liberals would change their tune if a prenatal test could determine whether a child would be homosexual, and then encouraged to be aborted. suddenly all the left wing would see the inhumanity of this! but they cannot seem to see it for a disabled person. all life has worth and reason for being. every outrageous thing you hear has a very good explanation if you will only seek it out...this man speaks truth, and truth is written on our hearts.

In both cases it's still crazy, extremist rant. :doh:

Guest
02-20-2012, 04:48 PM
Maybe we should start with something a little easier... the Earth is round.

(Go for it Richie!)

Xavier

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

OMG this is to good.

Guest
02-20-2012, 05:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xavier
Maybe we should start with something a little easier... the Earth is round.

(Go for it Richie!)

Xavier


From the Scientific American
To keep track of Earth's shape, scientists now position thousands of Global Positioning System receivers on the ground that can detect changes in their elevation of a few millimeters, Gross says. Another method, dubbed satellite laser ranging, fires visible-wavelength lasers from a few dozen ground stations at satellites. Any changes detected in their orbits correspond to gravitational anomalies and thus mass distributions inside the planet. Still another technique, very long baseline interferometry, has radio telescopes on the ground listen to extragalactic radio waves to detect changes in the positions of the ground stations. It may not take much technology to understand that Earth is not perfectly round, but it takes quite a bit of effort and equipment to determine its true shape.

I hate to say it but the case is still open on this one!!! :loco:

Guest
02-20-2012, 07:13 PM
Okay, you guys are losing me here. Not that it's that difficult.

Guest
02-20-2012, 07:34 PM
I think I see what you mean. I meant no disrespect for the followers of this redneck racist idiot and apologize if they took it that way.

Hey TVII, No offense taken here. However, I am wondering about something. When everyone was sure that Mitt would get the nomination by a landslide, I mentioned that I would go Independent and vote for Ron Paul. I had a deluge of folks bombard me with the mantra-"ya gotta vote whoever is the Republican nominee, we gotta stick together!" I think you might have been one of those giving me such friendly advice.
Hmmm, but now that it looks like Santorum could be on the ticket, folks are changing their tune. Even you are jumping to the Independent party. Is that a "do as I say, but not as I do" mentality? How crazy is that?!?

Guest
02-20-2012, 07:51 PM
I have been reading some very disagreeable posts. So may I suggest that we all start off by some portion of agreement. And if you cannot agree, then at least acknowledge a person's comments with a "I understand how you would come to that conclusion; however let me share with you another point of view."


I do enjoy the interesting exchange of ideas and even the ascerbic comments in Political. I get so bored with threads about dog poop and roundabouts and the bond. I come to Political to learn and to be entertained, and that happens whether the posts are nice or nasty.

Honestly, Rubicon, I understand your position. But I have to say that it would be a yawn if every post started with "I understand how you would come to that conclusion, however let me share with you another point of view". It just wouldn't feel like Political! It would feel like a Ladies Knitting Circle. (Not that there is anything wrong with knitting, or with ladies!) :evil6::duck:

Guest
02-21-2012, 06:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xavier
Maybe we should start with something a little easier... the Earth is round.

(Go for it Richie!)

Xavier


From the Scientific American


I hate to say it but the case is still open on this one!!! :loco:

Okay, you're correct. I forgot who my audience was ... how about ...

The Earth is Not kitchen-table flat.

Now, have at it folks.

Xavier

Guest
02-21-2012, 06:40 PM
I do enjoy the interesting exchange of ideas and even the ascerbic comments in Political. I get so bored with threads about dog poop and roundabouts and the bond. I come to Political to learn and to be entertained, and that happens whether the posts are nice or nasty.

Honestly, Rubicon, I understand your position. But I have to say that it would be a yawn if every post started with "I understand how you would come to that conclusion, however let me share with you another point of view". It just wouldn't feel like Political! It would feel like a Ladies Knitting Circle. (Not that there is anything wrong with knitting, or with ladies!) :evil6::duck:

Thank goodness. I feel the same way but felt if I said anything I would get reamed as mean and callous again by the "easily offended" people on this forum who insult everyone and then point fingers.

You've been my hero before Barefoot, and now you are again.

Guest
02-22-2012, 02:06 AM
Hey TVII, No offense taken here. However, I am wondering about something. When everyone was sure that Mitt would get the nomination by a landslide, I mentioned that I would go Independent and vote for Ron Paul. I had a deluge of folks bombard me with the mantra-"ya gotta vote whoever is the Republican nominee, we gotta stick together!" I think you might have been one of those giving me such friendly advice.
Hmmm, but now that it looks like Santorum could be on the ticket, folks are changing their tune. Even you are jumping to the Independent party. Is that a "do as I say, but not as I do" mentality? How crazy is that?!?

I remember that exchange and NO I was not one of them. I understand when someone is objectionable. I would have voted for any of the original candidates except Perry and Santorum. I like Paul. Newt would be fine etc. But Santorum is prejudice and that I cannot except in the WH.

Guest
02-22-2012, 09:45 AM
If there was a Republican who was fiscally conservative, had all the Ronald Reagan qualities, was a believer in strict constitutional virtues, BUT also espoused PRO CHOICE (he himself believed in pro-life, but would not force that onto anyone else) - would any of you conservatives vote for that person for President?

I would like this as simple as possible with a yes or no - not nitpicking my statement apart like "he could not because ..." Just a yes or no, please.

Guest
02-22-2012, 10:03 AM
help me remember what this thread was supposed to be about?
Consistently like most they always seem to skid off on some tangent. But what is more amusing is the proposal of the thread was walked over and ignored and like in Washington....business as usual!.

btk

Guest
02-22-2012, 11:17 AM
help me remember what this thread was supposed to be about?
Consistently like most they always seem to skid off on some tangent. But what is more amusing is the proposal of the thread was walked over and ignored and like in Washington....business as usual!.

btk

I think it was: Let's build on something that we can all agree on. How'd that work out?

Xavier (so sad that you have to :1rotfl:)

Guest
02-22-2012, 12:12 PM
If there was a Republican who was fiscally conservative, had all the Ronald Reagan qualities, was a believer in strict constitutional virtues, BUT also espoused PRO CHOICE (he himself believed in pro-life, but would not force that onto anyone else) - would any of you conservatives vote for that person for President?

I would like this as simple as possible with a yes or no - not nitpicking my statement apart like "he could not because ..." Just a yes or no, please.


Yes

Guest
02-22-2012, 02:56 PM
NO.