View Full Version : Then What Will We Do? What SHOULD We Do?
Guest
02-20-2012, 07:41 PM
Many of the foreign policy experts have said that Israel has little choice but to bomb Iran. Most think such an action is imminent. The result will almost certainly cause the various factions in the Middle East to coalesce, probably taking positions and action against both Israel and the United States. An already unstable situation in the region would become alarmingly less stable.
What would motivate the U.S. to be drawn into a war in the region? If those controlling the supply of oil or the ability to ship it line up against the U.S., our economy and way of life would be dramatically and significantly degraded very quickly. The ability of Israel to survive as a nation would be threatened.
What would we do? What should we do?
Guest
02-20-2012, 08:27 PM
Many of the foreign policy experts have said that Israel has little choice but to bomb Iran. Most think such an action is imminent. The result will almost certainly cause the various factions in the Middle East to coalesce, probably taking positions and action against both Israel and the United States. An already unstable situation in the region would become alarmingly less stable.
What would motivate the U.S. to be drawn into a war in the region? If those controlling the supply of oil or the ability to ship it line up against the U.S., our economy and way of life would be dramatically and significantly degraded very quickly. The ability of Israel to survive as a nation would be threatened.
What would we do? What should we do?
We should buy off the Iranian people with a payroll tax cut, extend their unemployment benefits, pay their doctors more than we agreed to pay them before we started passing doc fixes, and offset it with a new MILLIONAIRE tax on the filthy lousy American "RICH"!!
Then we can have an apology tour, bow and say.. See how much we love your poor and your middle CLASS, so... pretty please give up your Nukes!
I am certain that will do it.
Guest
02-20-2012, 09:14 PM
We know what Iran is doing and what it's plans are. We have to stand behind Israel.
Guest
02-20-2012, 09:32 PM
We know what Iran is doing and what it's plans are. We have to stand behind Israel.Does "standing behind Israel" mean the deployment of large numbers of U.S. troops back to the Middle East to support Israel in a ground war?
If that's what you mean, Richie, I respectfully disagree. I don't think the majority of Americans would support such an action...nowhere near a majority really. And given our current fiscal state of affairs, I don't believe the country can afford such a war.
Guest
02-20-2012, 09:35 PM
Does "standing behind Israel" mean the deployment of large numbers of U.S. troops back to the Middle East to support Israel in a ground war?
If that's what you mean, Richie, I respectfully disagree. I don't think the majority of Americans would support such an action...nowhere near a majority really. And given our current fiscal state of affairs, I don't believe the country can afford such a war.
If your loyal friend was about to be attacked, would you abandon him because you were afraid your nose would be bloodied, or would you stand beside him come hell or high water?
Friendship has it's responsibilities.
Guest
02-20-2012, 09:38 PM
If your loyal friend was about to be attacked, would you abandon him because you were afraid your nose would be bloodied, or would you stand beside him come hell or high water?
Friendship has it's responsibilities.Like I said, I respectfully disagree.
Guest
02-21-2012, 03:13 AM
Does "standing behind Israel" mean the deployment of large numbers of U.S. troops back to the Middle East to support Israel in a ground war?
If that's what you mean, Richie, I respectfully disagree. I don't think the majority of Americans would support such an action...nowhere near a majority really. And given our current fiscal state of affairs, I don't believe the country can afford such a war.
Your right on this Kahuna. Defense not aggression. Nobody in the middle east attacked us for killing bin laden as they knew we had the right. If Iran attacks first, we loose. If we wait they will build the bombs. WE NEED TO DO MORE TO PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS FINANCIALLY. The world can do that but the world will turn their back on us if we pull another BUSH IRAQ fiasco.
Guest
02-21-2012, 06:51 AM
I can't see us with more ground troops out there. More air and logistics support? Yes. Boots on the ground? No.
Guest
02-21-2012, 06:59 AM
I can't see us with more ground troops out there. More air and logistics support? Yes. Boots on the ground? No.
YES YES. Bring back the 8 day war if we have to, but history has shown us over and over that boots on the ground does nothing more than cost lives and money. I am a Viet Nam vet and was very proud to be there, but now I know for sure it was a waste of 50 thousand plus lives and gained us nothing.
Guest
02-21-2012, 10:08 AM
Like I said, I respectfully disagree.
Good to know. I hope your friends know how you feel about endangering yourself in their defense.
(that was my analogy, and you did answer)
Guest
02-21-2012, 10:50 AM
with the intelligence we would hope both Israel and the USA have about the where abouts of Iran's strategic locations, we would hope that if Israel goes in first they do so with the objective in mind to eliminate the targets from existence....what ever it takes.
The USA should of course be ready, which we have to assume they are, and do nothing until such time as either a US held entity is attacked by Iran or Iran begins unleashing it's promised horrors on the people of Israel. Then The USA should go in hard and fast with maximum destruction and minimum collateral damage....WHERE POSSIBLE.
Iran's post attack capabilities should be reduced to smoldering heaps with no possible recovery!!!
Remember these are people who have promised to remove Israel from the map. They are known supporters of terrorism and death against the USA.
And for the constant retro reminders of days past, shall we all assume there are WMD in Iran being cultivated to destroy Israel and the USA....or do we need a couple of years for them to hide it all like others in the past have done.
In any case we should all hope the Obama administration does not turn the other cheek and try to talk our way out of it. It has been proven over and over again dealing with these people in strength and resolve is what it takes....NOT WORDS...words got us to where we are....a more deadly enemy!!!!
Per my recent post on $4+++ gasoline, the sooner we disconnect from mideast oil the better. We have wasted 40 years and trillions of dollars to be energy independent and have just the opposite to show for it....more dependent now than 40 years ago.
My biggest fear of the above happening sooner than later is we will be at the mercy of an administration that has a very poor leadership track record.
btk
Guest
02-21-2012, 11:19 AM
Will this be another act of aggression without a Declaration of War as required by the United States Constitution. Did you realize that there has been only two wars authorized by Congress? Do you know which ones they are?
On collatoral damage? Are you kidding me. Look what happened to Germany. The United States leveled most of the country and the Russians took care of the other half. I'm a supporter of leveling a country if that counties government threatens our way of life, after a Declaration of War by the Congress as required by the Constitution. To bad about the people, I see that the muslims did not worry about killing civilians on 9/11. War is nasty business and should not be taken lightly and should only be declared according to the provisions stated in the United States Constitution with the draft reinstated so that all get to service their country in time of need.
Guest
02-21-2012, 12:44 PM
Will this be another act of aggression without a Declaration of War as required by the United States Constitution. Did you realize that there has been only two wars authorized by Congress? Do you know which ones they are?
On collatoral damage? Are you kidding me. Look what happened to Germany. The United States leveled most of the country and the Russians took care of the other half. I'm a supporter of leveling a country if that counties government threatens our way of life, after a Declaration of War by the Congress as required by the Constitution. To bad about the people, I see that the muslims did not worry about killing civilians on 9/11. War is nasty business and should not be taken lightly and should only be declared according to the provisions stated in the United States Constitution with the draft reinstated so that all get to service their country in time of need.Agree totally. Going to war should be a national commitment, agreed upon by our elected representatives. It should NOT commence based only on the decisions of a few politically-motivated ideologues.
If the decision to go to war is made, the sacrifice of the soldiers who are asked to go into harm's way should be shared across socio-economic classes (read that as "draft", if you wish) and the cost of such a war should be paid for with treasure earned and not borrowed.
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