Santorum Does it Again

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In an attempt to discredit Obama once again Santorum made a statement that on the environment, Obama acts as if humans are a parasite on the earth and then laughed like that was ridiculous.

WELL WAKE UP Santorum. The definition of a parasite is one thing living off of another or somebody who exploits others without doing anything in return. We the people are parasites on the earth. Who is advising this guy.

Does Obama elevate Earth above man? - Political Hotsheet - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57381085-503544/does-obama-elevate-earth-above-man/)

Please people, this guy is at least a few grains short of a full bushel.

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He's speaking in code to the extremist right-wingers and then the next day simply says he didn't literally mean what he said. It is a strategy that works for the crazy base but will drive independents away in droves.
As I said before, Santorum would be a gift from God, or whoever, for the Democratic election victory. :doh:

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I was watching a little bit (very little) of Fox News Sheperd Smith last night. They were telling of how Santorum and his staff were scrambling yesterday with comments, retractions, and "what they really meant" statement.

Santorum's comments about Obama belonging to a false theology was the good one - and he backpedaled to "what he really meant" was something about the environment and not church. His spokesman then said Obama's views were "Islamic radical" and then later said she meant to say "environmentally radical". Shepard Smith scoffed at that and said, "Yeah, those two words get mixed up all the time."

It was something to hear Shepard Smith actually scoffing at Santorum. He commented that Santorum was talking only about religion and social issues and not the important things like the economy and how he could fix it. Well, obviously, Santorum has no idea of (a) what is important - the economy and (b) what to do to fix it.

The Obama administration is glad that Santourm is making good headway to becoming the Republican candidate. He is a sure loser for November against President Obama.

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I have watched Santorum bounce around the leading position with amazement. I can only assume that Santorum is getting support because of his position on abortion. I agree that is an important issue, but to place all hope in a candidate for that reason at the expense of loosing the election is not very clever. Other than being a devout Christian, Santorum is such a poor example of what this country needs. Romney has the ability and desire to put us back in the drivers seat in reference to the economy.

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As I said before, Santorum would be a gift from God, or whoever, for the Democratic election victory. :doh:


The Obama administration is glad that Santourm is making good headway to becoming the Republican candidate. He is a sure loser for November against President Obama.

I agree with Buggy and Dale (and I never thought I'd say that)! Obama will be a happy camper if Santorum becomes the Republican candidate.

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villagerII, did you read your own link? where is the keystone pipeline? why are we letting canada's oil go to china instead of us? mr. obama is all talk and no action!

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I would like to know if ChaCha and others realize that there are many oil pipelines that crisscross the USA right now and many come from Canada and Alaska?

How much more crude oil would be transported by the Keystone XL pipeline and how long would it take to build the pipeline and how costworthy would it be from start to finish to the gas tank of your car?

Take a look at this link. It is very interesting. Oil Pipelines Criss-Cross the United States: Why the Fuss Over Keystone XL? (http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Oil-Pipelines-Criss-Cross-the-United-States-Why-the-Fuss-Over-Keystone-XL.html)

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In an attempt to discredit Obama once again Santorum made a statement that on the environment, Obama acts as if humans are a parasite on the earth and then laughed like that was ridiculous.

WELL WAKE UP Santorum. The definition of a parasite is one thing living off of another or somebody who exploits others without doing anything in return. We the people are parasites on the earth. Who is advising this guy.

Does Obama elevate Earth above man? - Political Hotsheet - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57381085-503544/does-obama-elevate-earth-above-man/)

Please people, this guy is at least a few grains short of a full bushel.


How about the Earth First group's endorsement of Obama because he's simpatico with there ideals? Read it yourself, and then you can apologize to Sen. Santorum afterwards.

7 Reasons You Should Sleep Like a Baby Tonight (http://earthfirst.com/7-reasons-you-should-sleep-like-a-baby-tonight/)

Obama Victorious! Let the Green Collar Economy Begin (http://earthfirst.com/obama-victorious-let-the-green-collar-economy-begin/)

http://earthfirst.com/obama-energy-environment-team-gets-busy/

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How about the Earth First group's endorsement of Obama because he's simpatico with there ideals? Read it yourself, and then you can apologize to Sen. Santorum afterwards.

7 Reasons You Should Sleep Like a Baby Tonight (http://earthfirst.com/7-reasons-you-should-sleep-like-a-baby-tonight/)

Obama Victorious! Let the Green Collar Economy Begin (http://earthfirst.com/obama-victorious-let-the-green-collar-economy-begin/)

Obama Energy & Environment Team Gets Busy (http://earthfirst.com/obama-energy-environment-team-gets-busy/)

I hear ya and agree, but that has nothing to do with the stupid comment made my santorum.

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I hear ya and agree, but that has nothing to do with the stupid comment made my santorum.

Actually, it has everything to do with it. Earth First is lauding Obama because they think he's one of them. Santorum agrees with Earth First. Where's the confusion?

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Rick Santorum is the biggest joke since Barry Goldwater became the republican nominee. If Santorum wins the republican nomination, President Obama is the luckiest man on earth.

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I think it will be hard for him to gain the necessary plurality based on his angrily presented extremist views. There's lots to like about the man, but this conduct isn't part of it.

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You guys are so predictable it's funny. Whomever is the front runner of the week is or even who you think it might be, that's who you go after. You'll all switch up by next week again. Liberals are so easy.

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i don't see him as angry..i see him as passionate about loving this country. a stark contrast to the arrogance of obama.

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Just thinking...the environmentalists are celebrating a victory for halting the Keystone pipeline project into the US...their concerns were that this pipeline would cross through sensitive aquifers...it seems (as cited in this thread) there are already many oil pipelines passing through these regions?

Now the US environmentalists, emboldened by their success in halting the pipeline south are now working in Canada to completely halt the Keystone project to their west coast, to supply China.

Is the objective here to protect the environment or just stop producing oil in North America...as gas prices continue to climb, I smell nothing but radical green agenda politics, we don't have the technology to count on.

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I would like to know if ChaCha and others realize that there are many oil pipelines that crisscross the USA right now and many come from Canada and Alaska?

How much more crude oil would be transported by the Keystone XL pipeline and how long would it take to build the pipeline and how costworthy would it be from start to finish to the gas tank of your car?

Take a look at this link. It is very interesting. Oil Pipelines Criss-Cross the United States: Why the Fuss Over Keystone XL? (http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Oil-Pipelines-Criss-Cross-the-United-States-Why-the-Fuss-Over-Keystone-XL.html)

i looked at this link and i think it points out the conservative view exactly...we have many pipelines and the small risk of accident is negligible compared to the impact on our economy of $4 a gallon gas! i don't see your point unless i missed something!

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Hijack alert:

She from Orlando, He from Massachusetts - we compromised and settled half-way between.

I LOVE THIS!!!!

Sorry...please continue!

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Essentially the difference between Santorum and Obama can be summed up in one word "conviction". In his 2008 campaign Obama declared marriage to be defined between a man and a woman. What is his stance now? Santorumalso defines marriage to be between and aman and a woman and lok at the reaction he gets. Whe Obama used a prayer breakfast to suggest Gospel of Luke was calling for taxes on the rich the media hardly raised an eyebrow. Yet when Santorum pointed out Obama's phony theology cocnerning his world view we heard an uproar from the media. The media understands that Obama's motives are purely theatrical or shall i say political.
He will bend in any direction needed to or throw anyone under the bus to promote his agenda.

When it comes to politicians "trust but verify". However when it comes to Obama you know he is srputing falsehoods. How ? His lips are moving.

Despite what anyone suggests the XL Pipeline is needed and unlike the "green" agenda (solyanda, etc) actually cost efficient and producing sorely needed supplies of oil independent of foreign oil from unfriendly and unreliabe sources.

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remember that all the thousands of miles of existing pipelines are less safe for the environment and have no where near the safety features built in that are in the Keystone plan.

Keystone, the safest pipeline for the environment gets rejected!!!! Does this raise the spelling of POLITICS to capital letters....absolutely!!! Wishy washy no spine, permissive, pacifist politicians...business as usual!!

btk

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I see the liberals on this forum have abandoned their attempt to paint Santorum a looney for calling Obama an "Earth First-er" after it was pointed out that Earth First is itself claiming Obama as one of their own.

Now it's just back to Santorum bashing on general principle. Hilarious.

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Does Santorum think he's running for Theologian-in-Chief?

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ChaCha,

I am not against the Keystone Pipeline at all. However, how necessary is it? There is already lots and lots of oil from Canada and Alaska being pumped through existing pipelines. The oil to Keystone is from oil sand deposits. It is costly to separate from the sand and to refine. Is all the technology in place at this time to do that or is building the pipeline step #1 and then we would have to wait several years for the crude to start coming through the pipeline?

I have no problem with another pipeline if there is available crude waiting to be pumped - but not if there is a long waiting time for the crude to be produced or extracted.

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I agree with Buggy and Dale (and I never thought I'd say that)! Obama will be a happy camper if Santorum becomes the Republican candidate.

Absolutely correct. This country does not need a theocracy....

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Does Santorum think he's running for Theologian-in-Chief?

Hard to tell as his tongue keeps getting in the way of his eye teeth so he can't see what he is saying. No wonder he lost his re-election bid in PA by a slim margin of 700,000 votes.

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The environmentalists think they've won a battle against Keystone and they're wrong because alternate routes are being worked out. Keystone is very much ALIVE no matter what they say.

The conservatices think they've won a battle against Obama because they think Obama killed Keystone and THEY are wrong for the very same reasons.

Now, I don't know when these reviews are going to be done but - if it's before November, Obama will be able to say that they worked a more environmentally sound version of the route. That'll tick of the tree-huggers and take the wind out of the sails of the right-wing. I *think*, however, those plans aren't going to be ready by then.

It just gets me that all these people can claim victory when a simple Google search finds this link: Keystone Pipeline Project (http://www.transcanada.com/keystone.html) with the truth. Oh, look! How about this quote from that page:


On January 18, 2012, TransCanada announced it will re-apply to the U.S. Department of State (DOS) for a Presidential Permit. TransCanada expects that the findings of an exhaustive, three-year environmental review process already completed by the DOS will be taken into account as part of the new application process

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thank you djplong. This should put this to rest.

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The environmentalists think they've won a battle against Keystone and they're wrong because alternate routes are being worked out. Keystone is very much ALIVE no matter what they say.

The conservatices think they've won a battle against Obama because they think Obama killed Keystone and THEY are wrong for the very same reasons.

Now, I don't know when these reviews are going to be done but - if it's before November, Obama will be able to say that they worked a more environmentally sound version of the route. That'll tick of the tree-huggers and take the wind out of the sails of the right-wing. I *think*, however, those plans aren't going to be ready by then.

It just gets me that all these people can claim victory when a simple Google search finds this link: Keystone Pipeline Project (http://www.transcanada.com/keystone.html) with the truth. Oh, look! How about this quote from that page:

So, the official line is "it's hopeful". I'll take that with a grain of salt, if you don't mind. I don't buy it as long as the "environmentalist" in chief is in office. This may be, and probably is, a smokescreen until the sheeple put him back in office in a lame-duck status where he can thumb his nose at us all.

You can look at the "hope" and feel fine about it. I've had it up to here with Obama's "hope".

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So, the official line is "it's hopeful". I'll take that with a grain of salt, if you don't mind. I don't buy it as long as the "environmentalist" in chief is in office. This may be, and probably is, a smokescreen until the sheeple put him back in office in a lame-duck status where he can thumb his nose at us all.

You can look at the "hope" and feel fine about it. I've had it up to here with Obama's "hope".

Richie.....sounds like you are conceding the election already. No confidence in the stiff and the two wackos seeking the Repub nomination? :doh:

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Richie.....sounds like you are conceding the election already. No confidence in the stiff and the two wackos seeking the Repub nomination? :doh:

My post is "what ifs" that the Obama-nation is hoping for. If he's elected he can officially squash any pipeline hope. That how I meant it if it wasn't apparent.

I know defeating the Obama-nation is not going to be easy, because the Republicans have to fight the Democrat machine which includes the National Media which is unofficially an arm of the Democrat Party and will highlight supposed Republican flaws while ignoring their platform; all the while ignoring Obama flaws and ginning up news events to seem to be in Obama's favor. It's not an easy task, and will take work.

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I am quite sure that I would vote for the Democrats in the fall and the reason is because "The Devil Made Me Do It"..:wave:

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But the Republicans will have Santorum and Fox Noise on their side - the side for a theocrasy. We winced when it happened in Iran - we sure will not tolerate it here in the USA.

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what do you mean by a theocracy? are you suggesting that santorum will enact laws forcing everyone to become a catholic? are we so afraid of a man who actually lives by faith and convictions that we would rather have a man who is ruining our economy, ignoring our constituion, and leading us into socialism, communism and one world government? open your eyes, people!

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what do you mean by a theocracy? are you suggesting that santorum will enact laws forcing everyone to become a catholic? are we so afraid of a man who actually lives by faith and convictions that we would rather have a man who is ruining our economy, ignoring our constituion, and leading us into socialism, communism and one world government? open your eyes, people!

The libs know all their B.S. is in fact that; B.S. This is why they act so foolish and say foolish things. The devolution of our country is all a joke to them, and mostly on them. I read a paper a long time ago of a regime who spoke of it's loyal supporters as "useful idiots". We're witnessing that here and now. Stand fast and keep the faith. All is possible to those who are in the right and never stop striving.

I know I'll get more wiseacre remarks for this post from the children.

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Good grief, chacha!

You know, if you want to say that Obama's policies are more leftist or socialistic, you'd have an argument.

But you lose almost ALL credibility when you throw around words like "Communist". Let's not forget - the government has *SOLD* the stock they had in Citicorp (at a profit) and most of the stock they had in GM (now waiting for the price to rise further - earlier this week it went up 10% in one day because of good news). Obamacare is welfare for PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANIES.

And the whole "faith and convictions" thing? Isn't that what people on your side have accused Obama of doing - but as a secret Muslim? (or is it radical Christian under Rev. Wright - I can never decide).

Ruining our economy? Well, it could certainly be better - but take a look at ANY graph concerning job growth and look what we have versus what we had. Are we so quick to forget that we were losing THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION JOBS PER MONTH when Bush left office?

Ignoring our Constitution? Well, you've got some traction there. (The TSA, the health care mandate)

But that means only one of your bits there is holding water. Overall it's hyperbole and I honestly think that's doing you no favors.

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Good grief, chacha!

You know, if you want to say that Obama's policies are more leftist or socialistic, you'd have an argument.

But you lose almost ALL credibility when you throw around words like "Communist". Let's not forget - the government has *SOLD* the stock they had in Citicorp (at a profit) and most of the stock they had in GM (now waiting for the price to rise further - earlier this week it went up 10% in one day because of good news). Obamacare is welfare for PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANIES.

And the whole "faith and convictions" thing? Isn't that what people on your side have accused Obama of doing - but as a secret Muslim? (or is it radical Christian under Rev. Wright - I can never decide).

Ruining our economy? Well, it could certainly be better - but take a look at ANY graph concerning job growth and look what we have versus what we had. Are we so quick to forget that we were losing THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION JOBS PER MONTH when Bush left office?

Ignoring our Constitution? Well, you've got some traction there. (The TSA, the health care mandate)

But that means only one of your bits there is holding water. Overall it's hyperbole and I honestly think that's doing you no favors.

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have you ever considered that the only jobs obama has saved were big union jobs in order to solidify his hold on a huge voting block? the auto workers union owns most of gm, the teacher's union is in the tank for saving teachers' jobs. not to mention the army of govt workers which has grown like a cancer. the terrible costs he is running up are no problem, as he does not care who is going to pay for them...the sooner the US loses its national sovereignty, the sooner the powers behind obama can push us into the One World Global utopia that they invision...there are communists in our govt...do your research...i recommend googling trevor loudon...elected officials are not required to go through security checks and they get in and get their friends of the same ideology into high ranking positions...and as for Satan, did you know that Saul Alinsky dedicated his book, Rules for Radicals, to Lucifer, the first great radical, who fought against the establishment and managed to get his own kingdom? i don't know whether obama is a muslim, but it really doesn't matter...why did he do nothing when the people of iran were begging for our help? because iran is part of the big block of our enemies, china, russia, korea, venezuela, cuba and the rest of the communist block..his ideology is harmful to our nation either way....i know it sounds unbelievable but if we don't start thinking rationally about how and why this is happening, it will be too late.

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Chacha. I mean this in all sincerity. You're being lied to. Let me take some of your arguments in order.

The UAW doesn't directly own GM stock. Their health care administration fund owns *17.5%* of GM stock. Less than 1/6th is not "most" of GM.

The army of government workers? Umm.. As near as I can tell, that's from the 2010 Census where a *lot* of temporary workers were hired. Speaking from my own experience as an Air Force employee, there are jobs cuts in places that never expected them. This is unlike when Bush was President and you'd get 2 contractors hired for every civilian let go. Check out the following link: PolitiFact | Paul Krugman says government jobs have fallen by half million since January 2009 (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jul/11/paul-krugman/paul-krugman-says-government-jobs-have-fallen-half/) - it basically says that a HALF MILLION *FEWER* government employees now than when Obama took over in 2009.

Do you not care that someone is PLAYING you?

Saul Alinsky dedicating a book to Lucifer? Umm, I read the quote that Rush Limbaugh reported (ok, now I know where you're getting your news) and it wasn't a dedication. It was an acknowledgement of who the first 'rebel' was - and I got this information from posts on Catholic.org, if you can believe it.

And Iran? Have you perhaps heard that they DO NOT WANT OUR DIRECT HELP? If they were to 'get help' from the United States, that would be all the Imams need to clamp down on them even more.

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Chacha....blah,blah,blah...

Do you not care that someone is PLAYING you?

Saul Alinsky dedicating a book to Lucifer? Umm, I read the quote that Rush Limbaugh reported (ok, now I know where you're getting your news) and it wasn't a dedication. It was an acknowledgement of who the first 'rebel' was - and I got this information from posts on Catholic.org, if you can believe it.


Who is playing her?

Acknowledgement-dedication...What's the big difference?!?!?

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have you ever considered that the only jobs obama has saved were big union jobs in order to solidify his hold on a huge voting block? the auto workers union owns most of gm, the teacher's union is in the tank for saving teachers' jobs. not to mention the army of govt workers which has grown like a cancer. the terrible costs he is running up are no problem, as he does not care who is going to pay for them...the sooner the US loses its national sovereignty, the sooner the powers behind obama can push us into the One World Global utopia that they invision...there are communists in our govt...do your research...i recommend googling trevor loudon...elected officials are not required to go through security checks and they get in and get their friends of the same ideology into high ranking positions...and as for Satan, did you know that Saul Alinsky dedicated his book, Rules for Radicals, to Lucifer, the first great radical, who fought against the establishment and managed to get his own kingdom? i don't know whether obama is a muslim, but it really doesn't matter...why did he do nothing when the people of iran were begging for our help? because iran is part of the big block of our enemies, china, russia, korea, venezuela, cuba and the rest of the communist block..his ideology is harmful to our nation either way....i know it sounds unbelievable but if we don't start thinking rationally about how and why this is happening, it will be too late.

YOU GO GIRL!!!!! :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

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Katz: Who's playing her? Well, off the top of my head, I would say Rush Limbaugh - since some of her comments *seem* to have come from him (when I Googled what she said, that's where I was lead). A little further out on the limb, I'd say Fox news as well.

They are entertainers who sensationalize in their own way to get ratings. Just like so many others before them and there will be so many others after them.

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have you ever considered that the only jobs obama has saved were big union jobs in order to solidify his hold on a huge voting block? the auto workers union owns most of gm, the teacher's union is in the tank for saving teachers' jobs. not to mention the army of govt workers which has grown like a cancer. the terrible costs he is running up are no problem, as he does not care who is going to pay for them...the sooner the US loses its national sovereignty, the sooner the powers behind obama can push us into the One World Global utopia that they invision...there are communists in our govt...do your research...i recommend googling trevor loudon...elected officials are not required to go through security checks and they get in and get their friends of the same ideology into high ranking positions...and as for Satan, did you know that Saul Alinsky dedicated his book, Rules for Radicals, to Lucifer, the first great radical, who fought against the establishment and managed to get his own kingdom? i don't know whether obama is a muslim, but it really doesn't matter...why did he do nothing when the people of iran were begging for our help? because iran is part of the big block of our enemies, china, russia, korea, venezuela, cuba and the rest of the communist block..his ideology is harmful to our nation either way....i know it sounds unbelievable but if we don't start thinking rationally about how and why this is happening, it will be too late.This one really rambles around in an attempt to fire as many shots as possible in the fewest words, ChaCha. But let me attack one allegation.

Before I do that, let me say that I will not be voting for President Obama's re-election. Let's get that possible counter attack out of the way.

But as far as where the job growth is coming from, do you really think that the people that are unemployed care where their new job comes from? As long as they can get reasonable compensation and maybe healthcare coverage, do you think they give a damn whether the maker of their paycheck is the government, a school district that could hire them because they got federal funds, a car company or supplier that is hiring because the government bailed out GM and Chrysler?

I posit that the newly employed could care less. And to the extent that increasing employment results in an improving domestic economy, we should applaud whatever is causing it to happen. I know that's tough for anyone who has such deep imbedded hatred for President Obama that they will always...always...find the glass half full of the bitterest of potions.

For me, I'm happy that more jobs are being created, wherever they are, even if they don't happen to be at the local hardware store, florist or carpet cleaning service. And I hope and pray that if the guy I vote for to replace President Obama wins, that he won't screw it up.

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Katz: Who's playing her? Well, off the top of my head, I would say Rush Limbaugh - since some of her comments *seem* to have come from him (when I Googled what she said, that's where I was lead). A little further out on the limb, I'd say Fox news as well.

They are entertainers who sensationalize in their own way to get ratings. Just like so many others before them and there will be so many others after them.


I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion. I happen to think with my own brains, and I think that Rush is usually spot on!

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These Con debates are great. Every time there's another "debate" Obama gains another 2-3 points.

"I love this country. I actually love this state. It just feels good, being back in Michigan," Romney said. "I like the fact that most of the cars I see are Detroit-made automobiles. I drive a Mustang and a Chevy pickup truck. Ann drives a couple of Cadillacs actually".

Way to go, Mittens - that's how to connect with the working guy, tell him your wife drives a couple of Caddys.

Obama just won Michigan.

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you may be surprised to know that i do not get fox news, nor cnn. i do listen to rush and i don't know how anyone who listens to him for a week would not realize that he is very savvy about what goes on in politics...same with sean hannity...but most of my knowledge comes from speakers who enlighten us at tea party meetings, and from the internet....part of the obamacare package is hiring up to 2o,ooo new IRS workers....don't you see that once the great majority is dependent on govt for either their job or their welfare and food stamps, that the party which controls this controls everything...and then nothing will stop them from pushing their agenda much further to the left than most democrats would be comfortable with....check out agenda 21, UN initiative which takes away personal property rights for the good of the society, the global society! these leftists have been working to bring us down for many, many years...obama is just the current instrument. even voting him out will not be the end of the problem...do i sound paranoid? i hope i never live to see myself proven right, but our dear grandchildren will.

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you may be surprised to know that i do not get fox news, nor cnn. i do listen to rush and i don't know how anyone who listens to him for a week would not realize that he is very savvy about what goes on in politics...same with sean hannity...but most of my knowledge comes from speakers who enlighten us at tea party meetings, and from the internet....part of the obamacare package is hiring up to 2o,ooo new IRS workers....don't you see that once the great majority is dependent on govt for either their job or their welfare and food stamps, that the party which controls this controls everything...and then nothing will stop them from pushing their agenda much further to the left than most democrats would be comfortable with....check out agenda 21, UN initiative which takes away personal property rights for the good of the society, the global society! these leftists have been working to bring us down for many, many years...obama is just the current instrument. even voting him out will not be the end of the problem...do i sound paranoid? i hope i never live to see myself proven right, but our dear grandchildren will.

Liberals have never been able to put a host on the air who could compete with Rush's unprecedented success. He's been the highest rated talk show host for over 20 years and no one else comes close. The most notable failure was the attempt to put former NY Governor Mario Cuomo opposite Rush some years back. All the liberal media thought the glib tongued liberal former governor would give Rush a run for his money. He failed miserably.

Rush's show is informative and upbeat all the time. The whining liberals and their doom and gloom could never gain a foothold. So, rival stations decided to fight fire with fire and gave top rated TV personality Bill O'Reilly a lot of money to go up against Rush, and again the media thought this would be the end of Rush's preeminence in radio. O'Reilly packed it in after a time. His radio ratings were never a threat to Rush Limbaugh industry leading position.

The Liberals are jealous as hell at how Rush can do what he does. This is why many attempts have been made to get him off the air. They tried to get him banned during his much publicized battle with prescription drug addiction, and then they tried resurrecting the old "fairness doctrine". If they can't compete with him, they figure they can destroy him. Thankfully, we have that pesky First Amendment that keeps getting in the Liberals way.

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Lets remember for statistical purposes that Liberals are Kind, Positive, Half Full thinking people.

Conservatives are more inclined to focus on anything Hateful, Negative, Half Empty approach to problems.

These facts give an open road to idiots like Bech and Rush.

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Chacha: Once again, YOU'RE BEING LIED TO and you just accept the lies that you're being spoon-fed without checking them.

Take a look here: FactCheck.org : IRS and the Health Care Law, Part II (http://www.factcheck.org/2011/02/irs-and-the-health-care-law-part-ii/)

Yeah, *ONE* thousand new workers to make sure tax credits are properly distributed.

So where did the TWENTY thousand come from? Hmm.. Seems it came from John Huntsman. And when checking his claims of 19,500 new IRS workers, it was rate "Pants On Fire":

PolitiFact | Jon Huntsman says the IRS will hire 19,500 new workers because of health care mandate (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/oct/13/jon-huntsman/jon-huntsman-says-irs-will-hire-19500-new-workers-/)

Chacha, I mean this in all sincerity. I don't doubt your sincerity - but I feel that you are quick to accept anything that supports your positions without checking it thoroughly. In the last two days, I've been able to counter, with fact, every single allegation I've *seen* you make. Quite frankly, if I were in your shoes I would be *livid* at those feeding me false information.

Don't get me wrong - when Bush was in office, I saw the same things coming from liberals. Quick to latch on to ANY allegation without checking the source. I mean, the first I saw of stuff like this was the liberals who used to cry about Reagan sleeping through cabinet meetings (which turned out to be absolutely false). It kept going through the years with comments on VP Quayle being stupid and uninformed (when he was, in fact, almost the only person in the White House who saw the Kuwait invasion coming).

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Lets remember for statistical purposes that Liberals are Kind, Positive, Half Full thinking people.

Conservatives are more inclined to focus on anything Hateful, Negative, Half Empty approach to problems.

These facts give an open road to idiots like Bech and Rush.

Finally.....out of the shadows and into the glare of the sun. No more hiding. Standing proud with your brothers and sisters.

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/wakytimes/John-Kerry_salutes.jpg

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do rich people work in the factories that make the cadillacs?
There is also a misconception inflected in the post alluding that only rich people drive caddys....how totally untrue....a failed spin attempt.

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I don't watch TV, Fox or otherwise. I don't listen to Rush unless on vacation. I do recieve his publication and cannot put it down until I've read it cover to cover. He is going strong because 99.9% of the time he presents the TRUTH, and the TRUTH is very difficult to ignore or argue with because the TRUTH never changes!

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Finally.....out of the shadows and into the glare of the sun. No more hiding. Standing proud with your brothers and sisters.

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/wakytimes/John-Kerry_salutes.jpg

Thanks for the support Richie. I talked to a member last night who convinced me to leave just because of a few racist nut cases on the forum would be the wrong thing to do. So I am back with hopes of bringing some of them into the light of day.

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"...Kind, Positive, Half Full...."

"...Hateful, Negative, Half Empty..."

The error in the post that contained the above extracts is the allusion (or is it illusion?) that these adjectives are specific to an R or D....when they in fact are representative of any population.

Since there are some of each in either R or D the completion of the syllogism is therefore:

failed spin.

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I don't watch TV, Fox or otherwise. I don't listen to Rush unless on vacation. I do recieve his publication and cannot put it down until I've read it cover to cover. He is going strong because 99.9% of the time he presents the TRUTH, and the TRUTH is very difficult to ignore or argue with because the TRUTH never changes!

Serious question. Why doesn't he run for office? Somebody has too, why won't he come off the sidelines and put his shoulder to the load? Not critizing, just curious.

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"...Kind, Positive, Half Full...."

"...Hateful, Negative, Half Empty..."

The error in the post that contained the above extracts is the allusion (or is it illusion?) that these adjectives are specific to an R or D....when they in fact are representative of any population.

Since there are some of each in either R or D the completion of the syllogism is therefore:

failed spin.

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WHAT? I think you are asking me to label one or the other. Not the case. Both, all, every category on here fits one way or the other, but is not specific to any party. No Party has ownership of half empty/half full or Negative/positive etc. etc. Does that clear it up for you? My point is there are just too many negative folks PERIOD.

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Serious question. Why doesn't he run for office? Somebody has too, why won't he come off the sidelines and put his shoulder to the load? Not critizing, just curious.

He knows he does not have enough supporters to elect him for even sanitation department head. Before anyone slams me, in my opinion that is a serious answer.

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Thanks for the support Richie. I talked to a member last night who convinced me to leave just because of a few racist nut cases on the forum would be the wrong thing to do. So I am back with hopes of bringing some of them into the light of day.

Really???........."racist nuts"..........would you like to name these so called "racist nuts"..........do you have the courage???

I would love to see the links to the comments by members here that caused you to label them "racist nuts"......

When you point fingers, you really need to look in a mirror.

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Really???........."racist nuts"..........would you like to name these so called "racist nuts"..........do you have the courage???

I would love to see the links to the comments by members here that caused you to label them "racist nuts"......

When you point fingers, you really need to look in a mirror.

It is not allowed to address members directly with negative comments.

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It is not allowed to address members directly with negative comments.

But just saying there are posts here put up by "racist nuts" without pointing to anything they've said is OK??

You have a funny way of seeing things. I don't mean that with any humor implied.

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But just saying there are posts here put up by "racist nuts" without pointing to anything they've said is OK??

You have a funny way of seeing things. I don't mean that with any humor implied.

Sorry if you don't understand, but I am offering my opinion on issues and you don't have to agree with them all, but not to agree with even one in 6 years, is a little bit hard to understand for any of us on the forum.

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Sorry if you don't understand, but I am offering my opinion on issues and you don't have to agree with them all, but not to agree with even one in 6 years, is a little bit hard to understand for any of us on the forum.

I don't very often agree with the liberals, you know that.

You join date is 2009...............you're revealing your "secret".............watch it now.

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I don't very often agree with the liberals, you know that.

You join date is 2009...............you're revealing your "secret".............watch it now.

I think you have made it very clear so I don't have to.

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http://SANTORUM - "WON'T BACK DOWN."

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http://SANTORUM - "WON'T BACK DOWN."

link won't work for me.

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just click google search and it will come up...great example of his leadership...you will notice the other candidates listening carefully and realizing his potential....go Rick! and the truth shall set you free!

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just click google search and it will come up...great example of his leadership...you will notice the other candidates listening carefully and realizing his potential....go Rick! and the truth shall set you free!

Describe "principled leadership".

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just click google search and it will come up...great example of his leadership...you will notice the other candidates listening carefully and realizing his potential....go Rick! and the truth shall set you free!

OR Go to youtube, then search for the title-SANTORUM-"WON'T BACK DOWN"

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OR Go to youtube, then search for the title-SANTORUM-"WON'T BACK DOWN"

I got it thanks. Not a true believer in him (yet). That little maneuver with the Cyber School money sticks in my craw. His voting record also shows some inconsistencies. So my jury is still out.

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Posh08~ In late 2011, I posted that I would jump ship and go with Ron Paul if Romney got the nomination and Paul went Independent. I got a delulge of responses from the conservatives on this forum that I should vote for whoever the GOP choice was, anything to be done with Obama. However, since Santorum has come up in the rankings, some of these same folks are changing their tune. I have point blank asked who of them will pull the lever for Santorum if he is the GOP candidate...Still waiting on a response from alot of them.

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OR Go to youtube, then search for the title-SANTORUM-"WON'T BACK DOWN"

You can bet that Tom Petty will not allow him to use that song for his campaign. :doh: