Obama plays race card, and now he's urging church's to preach his praises.

[Guest]

It's not bad enough that the President is playing the race card by opening campaigning for blacks to organize their fellow blacks to vote for him because he's black, but now he's violating the separation of church and state restrictions by campaigning for black people to pressure their church's to get out his message via the "faith community". He urges his fellow American's to become "faith captains".

Church's who do this would be inviting IRS scrutiny. If they do this, they better pray Obama wins.

Prison Planet.com » Obama Plays Race Card, Calls on Churches to Support Campaign (http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-plays-race-card-calls-on-churches-to-support-campaign.html)

(As soon as the NYT or WP reports on this breaking story, I'll link it:))

[Guest]

I think the author was being somewhat timid with the subject by using Ron Paul as an example. A better one, that merely extrapolates going through the door Obama opened....a new campaign....Whites for (to be announced) we need you to get out and vote as we outnumber the opposition.

Absurd? Why? The point is he is demonstrating he is unsure of that the following he had in 2008 might not be there in 2012. Why else would he cross the line and deploy a tactic he certainly knows is going to be seized upon.
In this day and age of scrutiny of all things being said, for him to launch a racial plea shows desperation. He and his handlers are achieving new lows!!!

btk

[Guest]

I think the author was being somewhat timid with the subject by using Ron Paul as an example. A better one, that merely extrapolates going through the door Obama opened....a new campaign....Whites for (to be announced) we need you to get out and vote as we outnumber the opposition.

Absurd? Why? The point is he is demonstrating he is unsure of that the following he had in 2008 might not be there in 2012. Why else would he cross the line and deploy a tactic he certainly knows is going to be seized upon.
In this day and age of scrutiny of all things being said, for him to launch a racial plea shows desperation. He and his handlers are achieving new lows!!!

btk


That's an excellent point BTK. Maybe he IS feeling the pressure. The surging gas prices can't be giving him any comfort coupled with the rising unemployment numbers and the backlash of his Afghanistan apology.

I'm sorry I didn't notice that you linked this story in another thread before I posted this thread. The story needs to be told, though. So I hope you don't mind.

[Guest]

Then add the fact that in the African American community, it is very difficult to speak out against this kind of crap too. If you aren't on board with your "people", things are going to be rough for you. Ask Allen West, Alan Keyes, JC Watts, and Star Parker.

[Guest]

Like him or not you have to hand it to this guy. He will stop at nothing to transform America.

I am still sending my wishes into the universe for a change.
I am tired of him and his crew!

First he says to the churches in health care, my way or the highway, and then he has the, you know whats, to ask for them to help him. Wow!

[Guest]

Go tell it on the mountain...o'er the fields.....and every where......:doh:

[Guest]

Look at the reactionary right wing lunatic fringe website that the story comes from. It is the same one that had the false conspiracy theory one of Homeland Security having a Directive of spotting terrorists or Nazis.

The bet is still for an ice-cole Yeungling against a bar-brand bourbon if anyone can show me a .pdf of that particular Dept. of Homeland Security Directive.

[Guest]

Then add the fact that in the African American community, it is very difficult to speak out against this kind of crap too. If you aren't on board with your "people", things are going to be rough for you. Ask Allen West, Alan Keyes, JC Watts, and Star Parker.

Don't forget H. Eugene Stevens, Oprah Winfrey, or Ventris Gibson.

[Guest]

Look at the reactionary right wing lunatic fringe website that the story comes from. It is the same one that had the false conspiracy theory one of Homeland Security having a Directive of spotting terrorists or Nazis.

The bet is still for an ice-cole Yeungling against a bar-brand bourbon if anyone can show me a .pdf of that particular Dept. of Homeland Security Directive.

Sometimes you kill me Buggy. You go off on the media site that brings you the story, and somehow that negates it??

Did you notice that "Prison Planet" presented a video of the one, the only, the race baiting President of the United States speaking in a video ad. The words coming straight out of his mouth??

Unfreakinbelievable.

Here......I'll separate it from the website, so you don't have to worry about the monsters under the bed tonight if you actually looked at the story. (Near the end is the call for the "congregation captains". If you won't believe me, will you at least believe him.)

President Obama Announces the 2012 Launch of African Americans for Obama - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BdjoHA5ocwU)

[Guest]

Like him or not you have to hand it to this guy. He will stop at nothing to transform America.

I am still sending my wishes into the universe for a change.
I am tired of him and his crew!

First he says to the churches in health care, my way or the highway, and then he has the, you know whats, to ask for them to help him. Wow!

You can send your wish to the moon care of: Newt Gingrich. :doh:

[Guest]

When are people going to realize the Hitler did the same thing that obama is doing. Don't be fooled by this guy. Read your history books.

[Guest]

You can send your wish to the moon care of: Newt Gingrich.


Nope, mine are out to the universe! I am not for Newt, can't win. The moon is not far enough.

I sent it out to the big one. Really want him out!

But thanks for the options.

[Guest]

the debate/rebutal always seems to default back to a discussion about the credibility/caliber/character/political origin of the messenger and a complete absence of commentary on the validity of the message.
Very consistent!

btk

[Guest]

the debate/rebutal always seems to default back to a discussion about the credibility/caliber/character/political origin of the messenger and a complete absence of commentary on the validity of the message.
Very consistent!

btk

Seriously.......this is a story where all the libs "can and will do" is attack the messenger, and/or ridicule the poster, and those who agree that this is a significant issue.

Divert and ridicule; it's all the libs have.

[Guest]

seriously.......this is a story where all the libs "can and will do" is attack the messenger, and/or ridicule the poster, and those who agree that this is a significant issue.

Divert and ridicule; it's all the libs have.

lol

[Guest]

It's not bad enough that the President is playing the race card by opening campaigning for blacks to organize their fellow blacks to vote for him because he's black, but now he's violating the separation of church and state restrictions by campaigning for black people to pressure their church's to get out his message via the "faith community". He urges his fellow American's to become "faith captains".

Church's who do this would be inviting IRS scrutiny. If they do this, they better pray Obama wins.

Prison Planet.com » Obama Plays Race Card, Calls on Churches to Support Campaign (http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-plays-race-card-calls-on-churches-to-support-campaign.html)

(As soon as the NYT or WP reports on this breaking story, I'll link it:))

I did view the YouTube (but not on the PrisonPlanet website). President Obama is 100% right in doing the video. His being President does show how far that African-Americans have come since the bigoted days of Selma and Little Rock. I only heard the word "church" mentioned once or twice. I did not hear "faith captain" but did hear "congregation captain" one time. Nothing wrong with that.

If you go to many non-denominational "Christian" churches, you will hear the minister telling you who to vote for - - and it is not for Obama.

Does RichieLion's statement about separation of church and state hold true for the opposite party? Or the Internal Revenue Service comment? Hmmm.

Santorum addresses voters at Grace Bible Church in Columbia - Columbia Missourian (http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2012/02/03/santorum-addresses-voters-grace-bible-church/)

The Last Tradition: Pastor at Santorum rally: Americans won’t vote for Mormon president, Mormon church is racist (http://thelasttradition.blogspot.com/2012/01/pastor-at-santorum-rally-americans-wont.html)

[Guest]

then you agree that it is also OK for Romney/Santorum to solicit whites in kind...i.e. I need the white-Americans to be sure to support me and get out and vote. Wow would the feces hit the oscillator then?

Every discussion I have ever heard or posts I have seen tout how he will carry the black vote again. Really? Then why the appeal?
The view that he has doubts about pulling the same level of support as in 2008 is obvious.

btk

[Guest]

then you agree that it is also OK for Romney/Santorum to solicit whites in kind...i.e. I need the white-Americans to be sure to support me and get out and vote. Wow would the feces hit the oscillator then?

Every discussion I have ever heard or posts I have seen tout how he will carry the black vote again. Really? Then why the appeal?
The view that he has doubts about pulling the same level of support as in 2008 is obvious.

btk

If Obama and his supporters start paying people for their vote, Buggy will come up with a way to justify it. It's just the way it is.

[Guest]

the debate/rebutal always seems to default back to a discussion about the credibility/caliber/character/political origin of the messenger and a complete absence of commentary on the validity of the message.
Very consistent!

btk

Its the "singer" not the "song". Bottom line we have far too many people (liberals) who apparently continue to feel guilty concerning the treatment of blacks decades ago. However, sensible people have come o realize that this situation has been rectified....and then some. How much longer are sensiblr people going to let opportunist beat this dead horse?

[Guest]

BTK, just look at the links I provided. Santorum was at black church in Florida trying to get votes. If Santorum or Romney set up a Mormons or Catholics website for themself, I would have no problem. If they were of a minority that was denied voting or representation like the African-Americans were until 1964, I would have no problem with them having pride in their culture and setting up a "Whatever (fill in the blank)-Americans for Santorum".org. However, none of the Republican candidates belong to a culture or race that was denied voting or representation like African-Americans until 1964. I remember gasoline station restrooms in Virginia being labeled as "Whites Only". I never saw one that said "Italians Only".

Part of Richie's post was about the church related aspect of the YouTube clip. You noticed, I hope, both of my links were regarding the Republican candidates preaching at the churches. Once again, he is picking and choosing what piece he wants to read. Typical of conservatives, isn't it?

[Guest]

BTK, just look at the links I provided. Santorum was at black church in Florida trying to get votes. If Santorum or Romney set up a Mormons or Catholics website for themself, I would have no problem. If they were of a minority that was denied voting or representation like the African-Americans were until 1964, I would have no problem with them having pride in their culture and setting up a "Whatever (fill in the blank)-Americans for Santorum".org. However, none of the Republican candidates belong to a culture or race that was denied voting or representation like African-Americans until 1964. I remember gasoline station restrooms in Virginia being labeled as "Whites Only". I never saw one that said "Italians Only".

Part of Richie's post was about the church related aspect of the YouTube clip. You noticed, I hope, both of my links were regarding the Republican candidates preaching at the churches. Once again, he is picking and choosing what piece he wants to read. Typical of conservatives, isn't it?

buggyone: discrimination existed for every nationality that came to these shores save the original pilgrims and they had to face native americans. I do not remember reading anything concerning any of these other groups demanding the moon and beyond ....you get the point. The affirmative action programs where never something these groups demanded. Instead they fought their way to the top. Perhaps an afirmative action for blacks was necessary in the short run, we will let history decide, but it continues on ad nauseam.

By the way since you are from Virginia you might remember that in and around Norfolk area as late as the 60's the people in that area had sign posted that said No dogs, blacks (they used another name) and sailors allowed on the lawn. I don't recall the U.S. Navy implementing a sailor afirmative action program

[Guest]

Everyone is missing the point, Obama is asking for the black vote because he will do more to improve their lives than the republican MAN. It has nothing to do with the small amount of black DNA in himself. You should think of Obama as mostly white due to his Grandparents on his mothers side of the Family.

[Guest]

BTK, just look at the links I provided. Santorum was at black church in Florida trying to get votes. If Santorum or Romney set up a Mormons or Catholics website for themself, I would have no problem. If they were of a minority that was denied voting or representation like the African-Americans were until 1964, I would have no problem with them having pride in their culture and setting up a "Whatever (fill in the blank)-Americans for Santorum".org. However, none of the Republican candidates belong to a culture or race that was denied voting or representation like African-Americans until 1964. I remember gasoline station restrooms in Virginia being labeled as "Whites Only". I never saw one that said "Italians Only".

Part of Richie's post was about the church related aspect of the YouTube clip. You noticed, I hope, both of my links were regarding the Republican candidates preaching at the churches. Once again, he is picking and choosing what piece he wants to read. Typical of conservatives, isn't it?

Santorum preached at a church? Is that what you're saying. Did the pastor of the church tell his parishioners to vote for Santorum?

Obama is organizing blacks to vote for him because he too is black.

Obama is asking for black church's to organize their parishioners to vote for him because he's black.

[Guest]

Santorum preached at a church? Is that what you're saying. Did the pastor of the church tell his parishioners to vote for Santorum?

Obama is organizing blacks to vote for him because he too is black.
Obama is asking for black church's to organize their parishioners to vote for him because he's black.

I do not believe that for a second. I am appalled that you do, but understand now why you like Perry and Santorum.

[Guest]

Yes, Richie, the pastor did tell the congregation to vote for Santorum.

Look up on Yahoo or Google the information on Rev. Dozier. Very interesting to say the least.

[Guest]

I do not believe that for a second. I am appalled that you do, but understand now why you like Perry and Santorum.

Listen to the video V; he'll tell you out of his own mouth. yeesh!!

[Guest]

Yes, Richie, the pastor did tell the congregation to vote for Santorum.

Look up on Yahoo or Google the information on Rev. Dozier. Very interesting to say the least.

I did look now. Why didn't you say this was an African-American pastor. I bet most here think the guy's a redneck.

He's a pastor at a non-denominational church. I'm guessing Obama's operatives will be investigating him in short order.

Still, it's interesting what you left out.