View Full Version : Media Finally Paying Attention to Obama Eligibility
Guest
02-29-2012, 10:22 PM
Most of the liberal media has laughed and ignored the issue when talk turns to the serious question on what constitutes eligibility to be elected President.
But, it'll be standing room only tomorrow, Thursday March 1st, at a news conference to be held by Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona.
This event will take place at 3 PM EST. The news conference will deal with the findings of Sheriff Arpaio's cold case squad which dealt with the question of Obama's eligibility.
The issues to be discussed include Obama’s eligibility under the U.S. Constitution’s requirements and questions about the Connecticut Social Security number he uses and the image of his supposed birth certificate from Hawaii.
Expected to attend are reporters from the AP, Reuters, the Washington Times and NBC, CBS and ABC, as well as U.S. radio networks, among many others.
The press conference is expected to draw protesters who object to the sheriff’s office review of the allegations that Obama may attempt to use false documents to have his name placed on the 2012 presidential election ballot in Arizona.
Sheriff Arpaio has said the findings “could be a shock.”
Sheriff Arpaio’s investigation is the first official law enforcement investigtion into the allegations of Obama’s eligibility. Many of the private investigators who have investigated these allegations say there are too many questionable circumstances to believe that everything regarding Obama is above-board.
Editor and CEO Joseph Farah of World Net Daily, which will be streaming the event live tomorrow said, “Until now, as hard as it may be to believe, no official vetting of Obama’s credentials has been done – not by the 50 secretaries of state who oversee elections, not by the Federal Elections Commission that administers the nation’s elections laws, not by the Electoral College, not by any judge in America, not by Congress, not by anyone,” he continued.
Even before the results become public, Farah said he’s confident there will be a significant impact.
“I strongly believe it could be a game-changer,” he said.
Media finally paying attention to eligibility? (http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/media-finally-paying-attention-to-eligibility/)
Guest
02-29-2012, 11:17 PM
What will the Tea Party say about this? Their darling, Marco Rubio, will not be eligible since his parents were not US citizens when he was born.
Guest
03-01-2012, 12:01 AM
What will the Tea Party say about this? Their darling, Marco Rubio, will not be eligible since his parents were not US citizens when he was born.
Let just hear what Sheriff Arpaio's Cold Case Squad dug up about our maybe foreign born President with his "records sealed" life.
We'll worry about Rubio later.
Guest
03-01-2012, 07:31 AM
Arpaio is a joke. Don't plan on Obama fleeing the country before this clowns new conference, publicity stunt. :doh:
Guest
03-01-2012, 09:41 AM
Arpaio is a joke. Don't plan on Obama fleeing the country before this clowns new conference, publicity stunt. :doh:
Looks like someone trying to get votes in AZ at some later time. Is this Sheriff's Office elected? Politics as usual. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio
The timing also seems very funny. The birther rabbit just happens to get pulled out of the hat in an Election Year?
I thought that the birthers had had more than their 15 minutes?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories
Guest
03-01-2012, 09:58 AM
LOL - Sheriff Arpaio has said the findings “could be a shock.”
This won't be a real birther news conference unless the great Birther Queen herself, Oily Taits is there.
And where is The Donald? And his cracker-jack team of "special investigators"?
Guest
03-01-2012, 10:22 AM
Looks like someone trying to get votes in AZ at some later time. Is this Sheriff's Office elected? Politics as usual. Joe Arpaio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio)
The timing also seems very funny. The birther rabbit just happens to get pulled out of the hat in an Election Year?
I thought that the birthers had had more than their 15 minutes?
Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories)
The timing is funny??.......because it's an......election year??
Exactly when would be a better time to find out if a candidate is indeed eligible to even be President than......during an election year??
There's too many questions and too many sealed records. Somethings up and everyone with a brain knows it. Will we find out the dark dirty secrets of Barack Hussein Obama??...........I don't know, but shouldn't the truth be revealed if it's possible??
I'll probably be on the "back 9" at the time of the news conference and I'll read about it late tonight after I come home from a dinner outing with friends. I hope it's a good read and not just more questions.
Guest
03-01-2012, 10:35 AM
Cowboy Joe and Oily Taitz should be so happy they are living in the USA. If they tried this kind of treasonous talk in countries where they belong - like North Korea or Iran - they would be executed in no time flat.
Neither Cowboy Joe or Oily Taitz are patriots but rather are traitors to America.
Guest
03-01-2012, 10:47 AM
The timing is funny??.......because it's an......election year??
Exactly when would be a better time to find out if a candidate is indeed eligible to even be President than......during an election year??
There's too many questions and too many sealed records. Somethings up and everyone with a brain knows it. Will we find out the dark dirty secrets of Barack Hussein Obama??...........I don't know, but shouldn't the truth be revealed if it's possible??
I'll probably be on the "back 9" at the time of the news conference and I'll read about it late tonight after I come home from a dinner outing with friends. I hope it's a good read and not just more questions.
The correct election year for this to have come out was 2008 not 4 years after the fact. Dirty secrets (really if any) should have come out before the POTUS took office.
Guest
03-01-2012, 10:54 AM
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Guest
03-01-2012, 10:56 AM
The timing is funny??.......because it's an......election year??
Exactly when would be a better time to find out if a candidate is indeed eligible to even be President than......during an election year??
There's too many questions and too many sealed records. Somethings up and everyone with a brain knows it. Will we find out the dark dirty secrets of Barack Hussein Obama??...........I don't know, but shouldn't the truth be revealed if it's possible??
I'll probably be on the "back 9" at the time of the news conference and I'll read about it late tonight after I come home from a dinner outing with friends. I hope it's a good read and not just more questions.
Back Nine at 3:00PM? What could be more exciting than an Arizona news conference. Oh, I get it, reduced golf rates in the afternoon.
Guest
03-01-2012, 11:11 AM
I will hold my comments until the "revelation".
I am suspect about most things until I am convinced or see for myself firsthand. I will not be able to do the latter so can only wait for the convincing.
One would have to believe, like it or not does not enter into the equation, that the powers that be (who ever or what ever organization and what ever laws/regulations) have been researched long before Obama was anointed the democratic candidate for 2008. One would think with as much legal capability as there would be involved with a 'suspect' situation especially for POTUS that any and all smoking guns were addressed prior to him being chosen as a POTUS candidate. If not then one would most certainly think those wanting to exploit the possibilities being tossed around for the last 4 years would have revealed real evidence by now.
The name calling defense mechanism/method of some folks must be unacceptable to a lot of dems as it is consistently predictable and accomplishes and most certainly changes NOTHING.
btk
Guest
03-01-2012, 11:23 AM
You can not be serious and call Joseph Farah Media. OMG, this guy is beyond crazy. People, please do your own research. This guy is totally disconnected from reality. OMG what a nut.
Guest
03-01-2012, 03:38 PM
Even Fox News didn't cover this side show. I will have to read the "shocking news" in the Enquirer.
Guest
03-01-2012, 04:24 PM
Even Fox News didn't cover this side show. I will have to read the "shocking news" in the Enquirer.
I doubt if they would carry a story from this weirdo. When you go to that fella for news, you are not scraping the bottom of the barrel, you are underneath the barrel. What a funny thread.
:jester::pepper2:
Guest
03-01-2012, 05:16 PM
So Richie, when are you going to tell us about these shocking revelations? Divulged that Obama is really a space alien sent to take over the USA from within? Or perhaps, Frederick Douglas reincarnated? Or a clone?
American want to know!!! :doh:
Guest
03-01-2012, 05:30 PM
Not familiar with this website that someone tweeted me. Sounds like same old, same old. Fake birth certificate, fake selective service, on and on. Doesn't anybody think that Clinton and McCain's team turned over every rock trying to find something?
Arpaio probe concludes Obama's birth certificate a 'forgery'... - StumbleUpon (http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2Ddqu1/www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/01/arpaio-probe-concludes-obamas-birth-certificate-a-forgery/)
Guest
03-01-2012, 05:37 PM
Barney Fife's "shocking news" is that Obama was the shadowy figure on the grassy knoll.
Yes, even a 2-year old can fire a gun.
Guest
03-01-2012, 05:44 PM
Cowboy Joe and Goobernator Jan Brewer have together made Arizona the laughing stock of any state in the union.
No wonder the Mexicans are not coming to Arizona in the numbers as in past years. Even the Mexican illegal immigrants are ashamed to say they were in Arizona.
Guest
03-01-2012, 05:49 PM
Most of the liberal media has laughed and ignored the issue when talk turns to the serious question on what constitutes eligibility to be elected President.
But, it'll be standing room only tomorrow, Thursday March 1st, at a news conference to be held by Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona.
This event will take place at 3 PM EST. The news conference will deal with the findings of Sheriff Arpaio's cold case squad which dealt with the question of Obama's eligibility.
The issues to be discussed include Obama’s eligibility under the U.S. Constitution’s requirements and questions about the Connecticut Social Security number he uses and the image of his supposed birth certificate from Hawaii.
Expected to attend are reporters from the AP, Reuters, the Washington Times and NBC, CBS and ABC, as well as U.S. radio networks, among many others.
The press conference is expected to draw protesters who object to the sheriff’s office review of the allegations that Obama may attempt to use false documents to have his name placed on the 2012 presidential election ballot in Arizona.
Sheriff Arpaio has said the findings “could be a shock.”
Sheriff Arpaio’s investigation is the first official law enforcement investigtion into the allegations of Obama’s eligibility. Many of the private investigators who have investigated these allegations say there are too many questionable circumstances to believe that everything regarding Obama is above-board.
Editor and CEO Joseph Farah of World Net Daily, which will be streaming the event live tomorrow said, “Until now, as hard as it may be to believe, no official vetting of Obama’s credentials has been done – not by the 50 secretaries of state who oversee elections, not by the Federal Elections Commission that administers the nation’s elections laws, not by the Electoral College, not by any judge in America, not by Congress, not by anyone,” he continued.
Even before the results become public, Farah said he’s confident there will be a significant impact.
“I strongly believe it could be a game-changer,” he said.
Media finally paying attention to eligibility? (http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/media-finally-paying-attention-to-eligibility/)
Way to go Richie. The press conference confirmed that you don't know when to stay away from your computer. Keep trying as you have until November to keep putting your foot in your mouth.
Arpaio's press conference puts him in league with the "birthers," the conspiracy theorists who claim - against overwhelming evidence - that Mr. Obama was not born in the United States and thus is not eligible to be president.
But, to his credit; he does make his prisoners wear pink undies.
Guest
03-01-2012, 05:51 PM
Let's hope this investigation is wrapped up soon so Sheriff Joe's crack(pot) cold case squad can get back to searching for Elvis, or perhaps help OJ find the real killer.
Guest
03-01-2012, 06:44 PM
Those who failed to vet Obama whether they be friend or foe and the liberal media along with the Hollywood liberals will fight and frustrate efforts to keep this issue away from the public by reducing its visibility because for one reason or another they have a position to protect.
sheriff Joe and people like him are a a huge disadvantage in exposing this secret. The news media have barrels and barrels of ink and the liberal elite bleed money
However and despite that fact there are many many americans who have come to recognize that Obama is not in his heart and cognitive processes "a true red blooded American." Unlike Obama, marco rubio has shown by word and action his love for our country and our democratic way of life.
Guest
03-01-2012, 07:01 PM
Do you think perhaps Sheriff Arpaio could be deflecting attention from the Justice Department investigation of him?
Marco Rubio is a swell guy. He got caught putting personal expenses on his state credit card while speaker of the house. He misrepresented when his parents actually immigrated to the US from Cuba. This probably was not his doing, but his brother-in-law was a drug dealer in South Florida during the 1980's. All reasons why he will never be in any higher office. Another reason, hispanics in the rest of the country do not like Cuban immigrants.
Guest
03-01-2012, 07:07 PM
I forgot the biggest reason of all why Marco Rubio will never be elected to higher office. He was a co-sponser of the Blount-Rubio amendment that was defeated today in the US Senate. I doubt any woman would ever vote for him. JMHO
Guest
03-01-2012, 07:20 PM
Do you think perhaps Sheriff Arpaio could be deflecting attention from the Justice Department investigation of him?
Marco Rubio is a swell guy. He got caught putting personal expenses on his state credit card while speaker of the house. He misrepresented when his parents actually immigrated to the US from Cuba. This probably was not his doing, but his brother-in-law was a drug dealer in South Florida during the 1980's. All reasons why he will never be in any higher office. Another reason, hispanics in the rest of the country do not like Cuban immigrants.
OR the DOJ investigation of him was in retaliation for his desire to review the facts of Obama's citizenship?
It appears fro what you say that marco Rubio has an emotional and adverse affect on you? When that happens to me I regroup and say to myself "what things, acts, etc can i learn about this person that might change my opinion about him or her? for instance marco Rubo has genuinely shown that he is a proud American and he defends our democratic way of life.
Personal Best Regards
Guest
03-01-2012, 09:26 PM
Richie???
Guest
03-01-2012, 11:32 PM
Richie???
Dale???
Guest
03-02-2012, 06:04 AM
Don't fret Richie, We all stick foot in mouth on occasion.
:loco:
Guest
03-02-2012, 06:07 AM
Honestly - if there was EVER anything to these allegations, you'd think at least Fox News would be ALL OVER this.
Guest
03-02-2012, 07:17 AM
:wave:
Guest
03-02-2012, 08:43 AM
Honestly - if there was EVER anything to these allegations, you'd think at least Fox News would be ALL OVER this.
Bingo.
Guest
03-02-2012, 09:09 AM
Honestly - if there was EVER anything to these allegations, you'd think at least Fox News would be ALL OVER this.
And Hillary Clinton's team and John McCain's opposition research team.
Guest
03-02-2012, 12:43 PM
OR the DOJ investigation of him was in retaliation for his desire to review the facts of Obama's citizenship?
It appears fro what you say that marco Rubio has an emotional and adverse affect on you? When that happens to me I regroup and say to myself "what things, acts, etc can i learn about this person that might change my opinion about him or her? for instance marco Rubo has genuinely shown that he is a proud American and he defends our democratic way of life.
Personal Best Regards
Sheriff Arpaio has been under investigation by the Department of Justice for three years for racial profiling and other things. I don't know how long Sheriff Joe and his posse have been on this witchhunt.
Guest
03-02-2012, 04:04 PM
Oh good, all you liberals are still having a good time here. I'm glad to be of service in keeping you all out of trouble.
I'll check back later to see if you're all still happy.
Guest
03-02-2012, 04:08 PM
...would have been better planned on April 1st.
Absolutely nothing there from reading the various relevant sections of Wikipedia's article on Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories.
Arpaio is a joke. Don't plan on Obama fleeing the country before this clowns new conference, publicity stunt. :doh:
Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories)
Guest
03-10-2012, 07:45 PM
Pravda reporting on the dearth of major media interest in the revelations of Sheriff Joe Arpaio's investigation into the eligibility of Obama to be the President.
They cite what they considered to be compelling evidence in the six damaging videos presented by Sheriff Arpaio.
I think it's scandalous that we have no investigative journalism in this country anymore by the major media (unless, of course, someone can find a Republican with a girlfriend)
Arizona sheriff finds Obama presidential qualifications forged - English pravda.ru (http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/07-03-2012/120708-arizona_sheriff_obama-0/)
Arpaio: ‘Probable cause’ Obama certificate a fraud (http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-joes-posse-probable-cause-obama-certificate-a-fraud/)
Guest
03-10-2012, 07:53 PM
Pravda reporting on the dearth of major media interest in the revelations of Sheriff Joe Arpaio's investigation into the eligibility of Obama to be the President.
They cite what they considered to be compelling evidence in the six damaging videos presented by Sheriff Arpaio.
I think it's scandalous that we have no investigative journalism in this country anymore by the major media (unless, of course, someone can find a Republican with a girlfriend)
Arizona sheriff finds Obama presidential qualifications forged - English pravda.ru (http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/07-03-2012/120708-arizona_sheriff_obama-0/)
Arpaio: ‘Probable cause’ Obama certificate a fraud (http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-joes-posse-probable-cause-obama-certificate-a-fraud/)
GREAT POST RICHIE.....to be honest I never really got into this part of the mans shadowy background but this is, to me, a HUGE indictment of our press.....love this comment in the one article...
"Yet, in the five days since his revelations there has been little in the way of serious reporting on the findings he presented in his presser. With 6 short videos, the Sheriff and his team presented a devastating case, one the tame US press is apparently unable to report.
I always have maintained since 2008 that there would be a unraveling of this mans background....did not think it would begin with this issue to be honest, but I KNOW there is much more to come.
Guest
03-10-2012, 08:32 PM
Wow, this is probably the lowest form of linked credibility that I have seen anyone (liberal or conservative) cite. Citing PRAVDA as a source of truth? How desperate (as well as other words that would get me banned for life) can you possibly get to try and "out" your President? That is exactly what I would have said several months ago - but not now.
I have gotten to personally know Richie and he has a knockout sense of humor designed to push buttons just right to get the maximum effect. He and I obviously were destined to be friends as I have been known to try the same thing - but not with his quick wit. Mine is only half as quick.
Bravo, the PRAVDA cite was a masterpiece. It did get the hackles up - for a second.
Guest
03-10-2012, 08:40 PM
Wow, this is probably the lowest form of linked credibility that I have seen anyone (liberal or conservative) cite. Citing PRAVDA as a source of truth? How desperate (as well as other words that would get me banned for life) can you possibly get to try and "out" your President? That is exactly what I would have said several months ago - but not now.
I have gotten to personally know Richie and he has a knockout sense of humor designed to push buttons just right to get the maximum effect. He and I obviously were destined to be friends as I have been known to try the same thing - but not with his quick wit. Mine is only half as quick.
Bravo, the PRAVDA cite was a masterpiece. It did get the hackles up - for a second.
I believe the post and thread were about media......and it IS ACCURATE....you show me what is inaccurate about their claims relative to the media ? You cannot.
I recall Romney back in 2008 being REQUIRED to have a press conference to discuss his Morman religion because the media just would not stop.....No, this article is spot on relative to the media !!! Your attempt to make this what it is not is noted.
ps...this is typical....totally get off what is being talked about and try to make it some sort of conspiracy thread
AND if I read your post correctly, you make quite an accusation about RICHIE
Guest
03-10-2012, 09:01 PM
Wow, this is probably the lowest form of linked credibility that I have seen anyone (liberal or conservative) cite. Citing PRAVDA as a source of truth? How desperate (as well as other words that would get me banned for life) can you possibly get to try and "out" your President? That is exactly what I would have said several months ago - but not now.
I have gotten to personally know Richie and he has a knockout sense of humor designed to push buttons just right to get the maximum effect. He and I obviously were destined to be friends as I have been known to try the same thing - but not with his quick wit. Mine is only half as quick.
Bravo, the PRAVDA cite was a masterpiece. It did get the hackles up - for a second.
I believe the post and thread were about media......and it IS ACCURATE....you show me what is inaccurate about their claims relative to the media ? You cannot.
I recall Romney back in 2008 being REQUIRED to have a press conference to discuss his Morman religion because the media just would not stop.....No, this article is spot on relative to the media !!! Your attempt to make this what it is not is noted.
ps...this is typical....totally get off what is being talked about and try to make it some sort of conspiracy thread
AND if I read your post correctly, you make quite an accusation about RICHIE
Buggy's right that I like to push buttons, and that's because that's the surest way to catch your opponent off balance. But, I take this story seriously and the source of the journalism disturbs me none at all. I didn't link them as a source of "truth", as they do not know for sure, but as a source of journalism, which is sorely lacking in our own homegrown media.
I was waiting for some media source to, even in a little way, look into the work that Sheriff Arpaio had done, and lo and behold......zippo, nada, no siree bob.
Even FOX News, that the left ignorantly and mistakenly believe is simply a Republican mouthpiece, did little except look at it, which is more than any liberal media source, but still pathetic journalism.
I thank you Bucco for your post, and your points are spot on. You correctly saw my intent, and my intent was in a serious vein.
In my daily reading I discovered the story by Pravda and was blown away. It appears only they looked into this story and found it needing more than cursory investigation. (I guess President Obama being one of the only world leaders to congratulate Putin on "winning" his election carried little weight.)
Guest
03-11-2012, 08:40 AM
Paraphrasing.
What Pravda said "We're surprised this public official doesn't get more attention"
What Pravda didn't say "His allegations carry no weight because everything has been debunked"
I mean, come on, you expect a foreign news source to do something in-depth?
The only time in recent memory I've seen that was when it was *Al-Jazeera* that provided coverage of the fate of the 9/11 responders health bill. *Every* major news organization ignored it except for Jon Stewart (a *comedian* for crying out loud!) and Al-Jazeera English.
Guest
03-11-2012, 10:53 AM
Paraphrasing.
What Pravda said "We're surprised this public official doesn't get more attention"
What Pravda didn't say "His allegations carry no weight because everything has been debunked"
I mean, come on, you expect a foreign news source to do something in-depth?
The only time in recent memory I've seen that was when it was *Al-Jazeera* that provided coverage of the fate of the 9/11 responders health bill. *Every* major news organization ignored it except for Jon Stewart (a *comedian* for crying out loud!) and Al-Jazeera English.
There's been no real investigative journalism into these allegations ever. The liberal lamestream media just accepts anything Obama's people put in front of them and say "duhhh, OK I guess that explains it.....duhhh". It's pathetic and journalistic malpractice.
At least this foreign news source is wondering why; and so am I.
Debunked???.......that's so much crap. Debunked by who?
Sheriff Arpaio's evidence should be investigated and lab tested, and his allegations based on what he found, vetted..
Guest
03-11-2012, 02:58 PM
Richie - since I haven't had a chance to see the WHOLE thing, perhaps you can tell me..
Is there anything in that video that does NOT have something we haven't already heard? (Like the birth certificate is a forgery, etc)?
Is there actually anything new in this?
Guest
03-11-2012, 03:10 PM
Pravda and Joe...are you kidding me?
Guest
03-11-2012, 03:10 PM
Richie - since I haven't had a chance to see the WHOLE thing, perhaps you can tell me..
Is there anything in that video that does NOT have something we haven't already heard? (Like the birth certificate is a forgery, etc)?
Is there actually anything new in this?
You have not seen it ? You said in your earlier post all in that video had been debunked ??????/
Guest
03-11-2012, 05:40 PM
Richie - since I haven't had a chance to see the WHOLE thing, perhaps you can tell me..
Is there anything in that video that does NOT have something we haven't already heard? (Like the birth certificate is a forgery, etc)?
Is there actually anything new in this?
I posted the vids, you tell me and then add the story where an real investigative lab looked carefully at the evidence and debunked it.
I'll save you the trouble, because no one looked into it, or evaluated it in any forensic way.
("Yes Mr. President; oh, thats a legal copy of your certificate, uh huh, uh huh, yep....that's good enough for us......sorry to bother you Mr. President......we've seen enough. Now if you'll excuse us, we're still sifting through Gov. Palin's garbage. We've found nothing but we're hopeful. Thanks for the good luck wishes, Mr. President)
Guest
03-12-2012, 04:26 AM
OMG will the conspiracy theories ever end for you paranoid people? When I was in the military, I worked side by side with several members of the local Masons. They live and breath these conspiracy theories. You are wasting your life on this silliness. Get behind Romney with all this wasted energy and you will not have to worry about carbon dating Obamas birth certificate. chilout
Guest
03-12-2012, 05:36 AM
Yes, I saw parts of it and the main thrust seemed to be the whole "the birth certificate is forged" argument that came out approximately 4 seconds after the President released it.
For these people, *no* answer will do. It reminds me of some of the stuff I saw on "Ancient Aliens" this weekend. The most preposterous proposals to questions presented as "facts" with every subsequent mention. The first mention is "what if" and *all* of the mentions after the first treat it as fact.
Guest
03-12-2012, 10:12 AM
Ahhh, so it comes down to faith in Obama's honesty and the blind acceptance of document copies that were presented with no forensic investigation into the discrepancies, or even a look by an expert in document fraud, despite all the questions to the validity of the documents.
Pravda is correct in that the US Media is just giving this story a pass.
Unlike DJ and Villager II, apparently, I don't have blind faith in this administration's scrupulousness
Guest
03-12-2012, 10:43 AM
Ahhh, so it comes down to faith in Obama's honesty and the blind acceptance of document copies that were presented with no forensic investigation into the discrepancies, or even a look by an expert in document fraud, despite all the questions to the validity of the documents.
Pravda is correct in that the US Media is just giving this story a pass.
Unlike DJ and Villager II, apparently, I don't have blind faith in this administration's scrupulousness
I learned about WH scruples, or lack of them with that little ol Watergate thing. Never let my guard down since.
Guest
03-12-2012, 11:38 AM
Ahhh, so it comes down to faith in Obama's honesty and the blind acceptance of document copies that were presented with no forensic investigation into the discrepancies, or even a look by an expert in document fraud, despite all the questions to the validity of the documents.
Pravda is correct in that the US Media is just giving this story a pass.
Unlike DJ and Villager II, apparently, I don't have blind faith in this administration's scrupulousness
Not to sound snarky, but do you believe the birth announcement in the Honolulu papers at the time of his birth are also fake?
That's one reason I dismiss the birther's claims. There's just no way that such a conspiracy could have been either hatched nearly 50 years ago or implemented so quickly in 2007. The corroborating evidence goes beyond a "preponderance of the evidence".
Guest
03-12-2012, 01:26 PM
Not to sound snarky, but do you believe the birth announcement in the Honolulu papers at the time of his birth are also fake?
That's one reason I dismiss the birther's claims. There's just no way that such a conspiracy could have been either hatched nearly 50 years ago or implemented so quickly in 2007. The corroborating evidence goes beyond a "preponderance of the evidence".
I disagree emphatically. This whole thing is getting pushed under the rug, and I have no faith in the bureaucrats of Hawaii signing off on this Presidents birth certificate which is just a copy that had a lot of questions before, and now apparently fails preliminary forensic testing in Sheriff Arpaio's investigation.
There is absolutely no "preponderance of evidence". There is a copy of a paper that apparently has been compromised.
You can accept it, but don't pretend you know diddly about any authentication of these documents. You only have the word of bureaucrats whom you know nothing about.
You have blind faith and cannot claim more than that.
Guest
03-12-2012, 02:09 PM
So.. Someone snuck into more than one Honolulu newspaper and altered the microfilm records from 1961 in addition to forging the birth certificate and the PDF of it?
Guest
03-12-2012, 02:17 PM
So.. Someone snuck into more than one Honolulu newspaper and altered the microfilm records from 1961 in addition to forging the birth certificate and the PDF of it?
Whatever........you have no proof to show the documents are authentic, and Sheriff Arpaio's investigation points toward fraud, indeed , being committed.
If we had a "Woodward and Bernstein" looking into this and investigating this with the same fervor they put into Nixon, they maybe we'd have answers.
You accept what you've been told and have faith in Obama and the bureaucrats?
Sorry, I cannot.
Guest
03-12-2012, 02:27 PM
So why isn't Fox News, The Washington Examiner, The New York Post, The Boston Herald, and other conservative organizations, investigating Joe Arpaio's allegations? Certainly these news organizations have the resources to blow this thing wide open, as Woodward and Bernstein did 50 years ago.
Guest
03-12-2012, 02:43 PM
So why isn't Fox News, The Washington Examiner, The New York Post, The Boston Herald, and other conservative organizations, investigating Joe Arpaio's allegations? Certainly these news organizations have the resources to blow this thing wide open, as Woodward and Bernstein did 50 years ago.
Your guess is as good as mine. Just because a paper is editorially conservative leaning doesn't make it a conservative organization.
We just don't have that kind of journalism anymore. They all just investigate from the chair in front of their computer, like you and me.
Guest
03-12-2012, 02:45 PM
So why isn't Fox News, The Washington Examiner, The New York Post, The Boston Herald, and other conservative organizations, investigating Joe Arpaio's allegations? Certainly these news organizations have the resources to blow this thing wide open, as Woodward and Bernstein did 50 years ago.
Hopefully they are, and would suppose they are. Have no idea how it might end up but it should have been done in 2008, and I know there are other shoes to drop that were not in 2008. Not into conspiracy and dont think there really is one EXCEPT that we do not know all we should about the man in the WH. Maybe it would not have mattered...maybe it does not matter now....THE POINT IS AND IS VERY IMPORTANT, things were withheld in 2008 and the vetting process was poor
Guest
03-12-2012, 04:58 PM
The pivotal issue for me has to do what Obama & Staff and their very defensive position concerning Obama's eligibility. It seems that Obama's background is shrouded in secrecy and /or denials as respects affiliations with certain people and organizations. And in fact his wife's scholastics records are also heavily guarded.
Clearly Obama had a close relationship with Ayers, Rev Wright, a radical professor recently revealed, a radical rabbi, etc. Just based on associations one could draw some logical and factual conclusions. Of course the liberal media will not. As for conservative media they will ignore it because they do not want the distraction.
Simply stated "methinks Obama protests too much"
Again the country can't withstand the reality that Obama was not or improperly vetted and those are the reasons two of the reasons this issue won't go away.
Guest
03-12-2012, 05:58 PM
Your guess is as good as mine. Just because a paper is editorially conservative leaning doesn't make it a conservative organization.
We just don't have that kind of journalism anymore. They all just investigate from the chair in front of their computer, like you and me.
Regardless of a news organization's political persuasion, the media should be swarming all over Joe Arpaio's evidence for the good of the country. This could be the biggest story of the century, just as Watergate was the biggest story of the last century. I'll stay tuned.
Guest
03-12-2012, 06:09 PM
Regardless of a news organization's political persuasion, the media should be swarming all over Joe Arpaio's evidence for the good of the country. This could be the biggest story of the century, just as Watergate was the biggest story of the last century. I'll stay tuned.
What size story was a candidate attending church at a church that taught Black Liberation and whose pastor preached hate FOR TWENTY years and having that pastor being called by the candidate his mentor and advisor ?
What size story was/is a candidate who was friend with Bill Ayers, a radical from the 60's who has killed people (this is denied by Obama, although he admits to knowing him) ?
What size story is it to know that a candidate while a community organizer was closely affliated with ACORN ?
What size story is it that a presidential candidate is a fan and actually TAUGHT the teachings of Saul Alinsky ?
ALL were just passed off by the media....and now add the recent video and a picture begins to emerge, to me anyway. None of that makes the President a criminal or anything but allow me after you answer those questions you add his youth and TOTAL AND COMPLETE lack of doing anything other than teach for a bit...community organize and then politics....what kind of philosophy do you think he brings with him ?
These are not from many many years ago..he is still a young man and I have not even mentioned all the secrecy that surrounds his past, like the grades that have been sealed...all of it together paints a picture.
So why were they all not followed up on or made to be an issue
Sorry RICHIE...will now shut up and go away
Guest
03-12-2012, 06:31 PM
The Washington Examiner, FOX News, New York Post are just waiting for more evidence of Cowboy Joe's to be further authenticated by PRAVDA, North Yemen News, North Korean Herald, and Hugo Chavez Press.
I am still laughing at how one poster sucked in so many intelligencia from the far right with his antics.
Guest
03-12-2012, 06:34 PM
The Washington Examiner, FOX News, New York Post are just waiting for more evidence of Cowboy Joe's to be further authenticated by PRAVDA, North Yemen News, North Korean Herald, and Hugo Chavez Press.
I am still laughing at how one poster sucked in so many intelligencia from the far right with his antics.
You can surely laugh at anyone you want, but MOST readers appear to understand that this thread has NOTHING to do with whether anything is real or not, BUT the lack of media attention to it.
I have not seen many folks, you being one exception, who has not understood what it is about
RICHIE....if Buggy is correct and you are simply playing with everyone, let us know PLEASE.
Guest
03-12-2012, 07:19 PM
why would any media pay attention to any of this garbage?
Guest
03-12-2012, 07:29 PM
why would any media pay attention to any of this garbage?
I suppose the same reason the attention paid to Romney money...Romney's past business dealings. Santorium losing by a lot years ago.a speech he made years ago. Gingerich's past political problems, etc.
I am curious to ask WHICH of what I typed is "garbage" or untrue ????
Guest
03-12-2012, 07:33 PM
I suppose the same reason the attention paid to Romney money...Romney's past business dealings. Santorium losing by a lot years ago.a speech he made years ago. Gingerich's past political problems, etc.
I am curious to ask WHICH of what I typed is "garbage" or untrue ????
Cain's "affair", Palin's pregnant, unwed daughter, Rush Limbaugh's lack of descretion, etc,etc,etc....While "comedians" like Bill Maher get free rein to slander anyone he wants to. I also doubt that Mr. Maher will be getting sued by anyone for his comments regarding the virtue of any women.
Guest
03-12-2012, 10:48 PM
You can surely laugh at anyone you want, but MOST readers appear to understand that this thread has NOTHING to do with whether anything is real or not, BUT the lack of media attention to it.
I have not seen many folks, you being one exception, who has not understood what it is about
RICHIE....if Buggy is correct and you are simply playing with everyone, let us know PLEASE.
Of course I'm not playing with this, and I'm 100% in your corner here in commenting how the media has given "The One" a complete pass on anything that could hurt him.
Buggy, and the rest of the Obama sycophants are just using the tried and true leftist tactic of "diversion and ridicule" which I've brought up time and again. When they know they have no cogent argument, that's their fall back plan. It's supposed to shut us up.
Buggy and all the other shameless leftists know that there's been no investigation, and like Buggy told me tonight, "C'mon it's been 4 years already"; so I guess the search for the truth on all these revelations slowing grinding out is beyond the leftist's statute of limitations.
I won't shut up about it. I'm not easily buffaloed.
Guest
03-13-2012, 06:11 AM
to say this hasn't been investigated if pure selective nonsense. Joe and his boys found nothing,Trumpie found nothing,I'm sure McCain and Clinton found nothing. I think some of you don't like the results so it must be a conspiracy by everyone else to hide the truth.
Guest
03-13-2012, 09:53 AM
to say this hasn't been investigated if pure selective nonsense. Joe and his boys found nothing,Trumpie found nothing,I'm sure McCain and Clinton found nothing. I think some of you don't like the results so it must be a conspiracy by everyone else to hide the truth.
Everything you wrote above is bogus, but don't let that stop you.
Guest
03-13-2012, 01:00 PM
Richie,I beg to disagree.
Guest
03-13-2012, 02:01 PM
Richie,I beg to disagree.
Beg all you want.
Guest
03-13-2012, 02:35 PM
In my opinion, it is time to move on to a new topic of conversation. This one keeps whipping that dead horse and it is not going anywhere.
Guest
03-13-2012, 02:59 PM
In my opinion, it is time to move on to a new topic of conversation. This one keeps whipping that dead horse and it is not going anywhere.
Do you always announce your exit? Move along then Buggy, as you've run out of false points anyway. See you on another thread. I posted one today you'll love :)
Guest
03-13-2012, 04:12 PM
Do you always announce your exit? Move along then Buggy, as you've run out of false points anyway. See you on another thread. I posted one today you'll love :)
Hahahaha, I was just looking at that. Not many bites YET on it. Just a matter of time. :BigApplause:
Guest
03-13-2012, 08:48 PM
please,please,please
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