When the build out ends?

[RayinPenn]

Some years back My father-in-law bought a time share in the powattan plantation in virgina. When they were building and selling new units the place was beautiful, well maintained and a pleasure to visit. A few years later when the units were all sold the deterioration was almost immediate. They simply took huge fees for maintenance and didn't put it back into the facility. Walls, rugs and interiors were just nasty. Their gold resort status was lost which made the units less desirable to trade.. It was just a disaster.

So I wonder what is to stop TV from going down the path? Is there some organizational/structural difference to prevent this? I want to buy but have this concern. Am I crazy?

[mulligan]

Yup. As each district is completed, as in districts 1-6, they are turned over to owner control. All the mechanism's are in place to continue maintenance into infinity and beyond.

[RayinPenn]

So there are owners associations that decide on maintenance levels nd fees?

[brostholder]

As I understand it, the districts are much more than owner associations. They are a form of government, and as such they develop and administer a budget for upkeep of our common areas. I also believe that we are charged for this through our amenities fees and increases to our amenities fees are limited to cost of living inflation. Again, it has been some time since I attended the primer class on this, so if my memory has once again failed me, I am sure that someone more knowledgeable will help.

[mrfixit]

Yup. As each district is completed, as in districts 1-6, they are turned over to owner control. All the mechanism's are in place to continue maintenance into infinity and beyond.

....or at least until 2034..(or 2036).....for the NON-homeowner property,
........................................'iffen ya reads the fine print.
...In 2034, will begin my worry-phase.

...PLUS... in Matthew 6:34 it plainly states.........
Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will
worry about itself. (as frequently "Quoted" by my STONER 'cuzzin )

[EdV]

Sorry but the turnover does not include the recreational facilities, clubhouses, pools and executive golf courses that are in those districts. They are, and will remain the property of the developer. They are maintained by your amenity fees but are and will be managed by a board of trustees that he and he alone appoints.

[mrfixit]

Sorry but the turnover does not include the recreational facilities, clubhouses, pools and executive golf courses that are in those districts. They are, and will remain the property of the developer. They are maintained by your amenity fees but are and will be managed by a board of trustees that he and he alone appoints.

........EXACTLY.......

........at least TWO of us have been reading the fine print...
Therefore in 2034 (or 2036)...I shall BEGIN my worry phase.

[missypie]

Some years back My father-in-law bought a time share in the powattan plantation in virgina. When they were building and selling new units the place was beautiful, well maintained and a pleasure to visit. A few years later when the units were all sold the deterioration was almost immediate. They simply took huge fees for maintenance and didn't put it back into the facility. Walls, rugs and interiors were just nasty. Their gold resort status was lost which made the units less desirable to trade.. It was just a disaster.

So I wonder what is to stop TV from going down the path? Is there some organizational/structural difference to prevent this? I want to buy but have this concern. Am I crazy?

I have been there and know what you are saying. TV is not like a Timeshare. Different animals.

[RayinPenn]

Obviously TV isn't a timeshare what my concern is about unchecked greedy corporations..

[EdV]

But keep in mind that unlike a traditional residential community developer, after the build out, this developer and his extended family will have a huge commercial property base to manage and continue to profit from.

[Graytop]

Obviously TV isn't a timeshare what my concern is about unchecked greedy corporations..

For your concerns, there is a property owners association independant of the developer that is always on the lookout for us. The developer has their own in place also.

[graciegirl]

But keep in mind that unlike a traditional residential community developer, after the build out, this developer and his extended family will have a huge commercial property base to manage and continue to profit from.

Good thing you said that Ed. I was loadin' up my squirt gun with hot water after your previous post.

[Graytop]

Obviously TV isn't a timeshare what my concern is about unchecked greedy corporations..

....unchecked, greedy corporations,....where have I heard that before? :rolleyes:

[SunCity]

when we first moved into sun city, it was clean and wonderful. it was kept up great. then we had 'build out' and del webb moved on. our place is nice but not the same as when del webb was the owner. it has definitely gone down the tubes.

i have been keeping an eye on the villages. i have friends who live there. i even watch their youtube thing on the website. it sure looks and sounds like your developer is going to be there for a long time to come.

you guys are lucky. your place is so much nicer than sun city.

i wish our family was in florida, not here in arizona. i think you have got a good developer who will keep your place up even after your build out. could you send that developer to sun city?

[janmcn]

Sorry but the turnover does not include the recreational facilities, clubhouses, pools and executive golf courses that are in those districts. They are, and will remain the property of the developer. They are maintained by your amenity fees but are and will be managed by a board of trustees that he and he alone appoints.

Is this going to be different from the facilities north of 466 which were turned over to the VCDD at a highly inflated price to the residents?

[aljetmet]

Is this going to be different from the facilities north of 466 which were turned over to the VCDD at a highly inflated price to the residents?

Is this related to the IRS issues where the Developer sold the future value of amenity fees to the VCDD? which sold tax free bonds to the public and handed the proceeds to the Developer?

I must admit I was under the impression that tax free bonds were to be used for public works. How could tax free bonds be used for up keep of pools and golf courses?

Hopfully I'm just a confused and uninformed wanabee....

[Carla B]

Another thing to consider is what happens as the population ages and dies off. We own a condo in a 400-unit complex built in the late 1970s. A few of the original occupants still live there. As can be expected several owners move on or die each year. Families who inherit the property are willing to sell at a low price to get rid of the responsibility of ownership, thereby driving prices down.

Even though the buildings are 35 years old, the complex is in a good location by the water, has strong management, and is beautifully maintained. But it is not drawing enough new buyers to replace the old and keep the prices up.

Maybe this is part of Sun City's problem? I've heard the term "old" used to describe Sun City Center FL near Tampa, meaning the general feeling of the place. If there aren't enough younger people moving in to replace the older ones that is the result. So the key would be to keep the development vibrant enough to encourage younger retirees to keep coming and hope no one builds a more appealing product in the meantime.

[whistling dixie]

This thread hits on my major concern. The issue of ownership of the amenities, the amenities fees and who receives them and what happens when TV is built out. When the facilities were sold to the home owners in the old section, did their amenities fees go with them? If not, how do they pay for the maintenance of those buildings? I also don't understand why IRS is going after the home owners on the bond investigation? As I understand the issue, they should be going after the builder, no?

[Pathel]

Is this going to be different from the facilities north of 466 which were turned over to the VCDD at a highly inflated price to the residents?

Says who?

[skyguy79]

But keep in mind that unlike a traditional residential community developer, after the build out, this developer and his extended family will have a huge commercial property base to manage and continue to profit from.I was thinking similarly! After build out there will still be a whole lot of money to be had in just their pre-owned home sales department alone without even considering all their commercial sources or future ventures. IMHO, I believe their will be plenty incentive for the developer and their heirs or successors to maintain TV, both visually pleasing and recreationally rich for many future generations. Besides, who knows what plans they may have in mind for the future that hasn't been revealed to the public yet?

[JohnN]

yes, you're crazy. if that's all that's holding you back, you'd better just jump on in. This place has a lot going for it in size and money.

[keithwand]

Sun City Center is a different animal. My parents lived on the lake on Flamingo Ln from 1992 until my Dad passed in 1997 and my Mother passed in 2010.
The area has deteriorated from when they first moved in.
It seems people just don't take care of their homes.
There was/ is a definate lack of restaurants and services. It was huge to finally get Home Depot and Walmart. They had to jump on I75 to do most anything inc. a movie.
This is where I got my negativity towards 55+ comm. UNTIL visiting TV.
We can't wait to the Design Center thing in 2 weeks and start building.

[janmcn]

Says who?

This subject has been covered in great detail on this forum and in the newspapers for the last ten years.

[BobKat1]

We've spent time in a couple of the older areas of TV and yes some homes in those areas are a bit "tired" looking.

IMO it's to be expected as the homeowners age, pass away etc. It happens everywhere.

We've been wondering if these older homes/neighborhoods will get revitialized as new retirees buy them at a good price and update the exteriors, landscaping etc. Or if they'll opt for new homes until the build out.

[NJblue]

Sorry but the turnover does not include the recreational facilities, clubhouses, pools and executive golf courses that are in those districts. They are, and will remain the property of the developer. They are maintained by your amenity fees but are and will be managed by a board of trustees that he and he alone appoints.

This is not exactly true. The developer has turned over/sold all of the amenities north of 466 and a small portion of those south of 466 to the CDD. The plan is that he will eventually turn those over as well. The CDD, headed by Janet Tutt, runs all of the amenities, including those still owned by the developer. Currently the CDD collects all of the amenity fees and then pays a prorated portion of these back to the developer for the share that he still owns. The developer in turn pays the CDD for the cost of running them.

Why haven't more of the amenities been turned over? My guess that the hold up is the resolution of the tax issue - they need a clear guidance on whether the bonds that the CDD will sell to acquire these amenities can be sold as municipal bonds or not.

[NotGolfer]

By the mid-30's we won't be here to have to think about it. Anyway think it's been taken care of and it will all be fine!!!

[Golfer in Sanibel]

By the mid-30's we won't be here to have to think about it. Anyway think it's been taken care of and it will all be fine!!!

My thought, exactly.

[kentucky blue]

By the mid-30's we won't be here to have to think about it. Anyway think it's been taken care of and it will all be fine!!!

I believe that statement is the perfect example of the idiomatic expression................."Bury your head in the sand".We all need to educate ourselves about TV long term plans, and the part we can play , in making sure TV is just as captivating to all future residents.

[Irishmen]

The 3 counties have to maintain all the roads no matter. It's why we are not a a true gated community. The sales staff of The Villages act like ears and eyes for the developer. Any weeds on the golf course, flower beds dead, or any other issue affecting sales is immediately reported and taken care of.

[Happy Villager 1]

The beauty of The Villages is what first caught our eye and was the main contributing factor in choosing to buy here. We love living here "but" there is a situation in our neighborhood with one homeowner whose property is definitely an eyesore and has been for four or five months now. There are golf figures up on the front shutters, the grass has been killed by chinch bugs and the lawn has looked like a sandbox for months. The son of the owner is playing at landscape and is making it worse. It truly is an eyesore and the talk of the neighborhood! One of the neighbors did recently file a complaint.
Now the neighborhood is waiting to see what can or will be done. If you want to see for yourself take a drive to Livingston Loop located near the Churchhill St Rec Center and hope this doesn't occur where you live.:cryin2:

[Happy Villager 1]

My husband just reminded me there are 8 old golf cart tires being stored on the side of this eyesore house along with a garden hose. I really hope some of you members take the time to view this mess and please give us your opinion or ideas on how to get this rectified. Livingston Loop is located in
the Village of Lynnhaven.

[golfball]

I suggest a call to Community Standards (751-6719) would help with your concerns.

GB

[Harry Gilbert]

This is not exactly true. The developer has turned over/sold all of the amenities north of 466 and a small portion of those south of 466 to the CDD. The plan is that he will eventually turn those over as well. The CDD, headed by Janet Tutt, runs all of the amenities, including those still owned by the developer. Currently the CDD collects all of the amenity fees and then pays a prorated portion of these back to the developer for the share that he still owns. The developer in turn pays the CDD for the cost of running them.


I haven't seen a straight answer to this anywhere yet so I'll try here. If Ms Tutt is the head of the CCD's and the CCD's are a quasi gov't then who placed her in this position? homeowners? the developer?

Nothing against the lady I've seen nothing but good about her just trying to figure out the "gov't" there. Or is the developer the "gov't"?

[OLD GEEKZER]

........EXACTLY.......

........at least TWO of us have been reading the fine print...
Therefore in 2034 (or 2036)...I shall BEGIN my worry phase.

But you forget.. the end of the world is in December of this year so we have nothing to worry about

[NJblue]

I haven't seen a straight answer to this anywhere yet so I'll try here. If Ms Tutt is the head of the CCD's and the CCD's are a quasi gov't then who placed her in this position? homeowners? the developer?

Nothing against the lady I've seen nothing but good about her just trying to figure out the "gov't" there. Or is the developer the "gov't"?

This is a question I am not 100% sure on. Each of the ten numbered districts and the two village districts have a 5-member board of supervisors. Initially the numbered districts have their supervisors selected by the developer, but in time the residents take control and vote for them. Since the two village districts have no residents, their supervisors are selected by the developer.

Now, how the 12 districts (10 numbered plus two village) decide on the manager is not clear to me. If each district has one vote, then ultimately it would follow that the manager is indirectly selected by the residents (since there will be 10 resident-controlled districts and only 2 developer-controlled.) However, it is always possible that the bylaws are written such that the numbered districts combined get one vote and each of the village districts gets one vote, thus giving ultimate control back to the developer. I don't know.

What I do know is that all meetings for each of the 12 boards is done under the Florida sunshine laws so the public is invited to attend and comment and all documents are available to the public for scrutiny. There is also an outside auditor who comes in and evaluates all of the books for each of the districts.

[bestmickey]

The issues raised in this thread are some of the reasons why I will probably rent in TV long-term, rather than purchase a home. Worrying about build-out is one thing, but having to live next to a home that has a half-dozen cart tires piled up on the outside, along with lack of lawn maintenance, etc is just too much risk. What will that do to the neighbor's property values? I'd hate to try to sell my home if my neighbor's house looked like that! I don't think I want that risk. Easier to just rent and then, if the neighborhood goes downhill, I could just move at the end of the lease.

[mrfixit]

But you forget..THE END OF THE WORLD IS IN DECEMBER of this year so we have nothing to worry about

...........OH_ SNAP............
....................Thank You for the reminder....That's Right...21-DEC-2012.
............Man-oh-man.......am I gonna MAX out all the credit cards :loco:,
..................AND...Eat Burgers and Fries..at 5 GUYS....:mmmm:...DAILY.

[Indydealmaker]

The issues raised in this thread are some of the reasons why I will probably rent in TV long-term, rather than purchase a home. Worrying about build-out is one thing, but having to live next to a home that has a half-dozen cart tires piled up on the outside, along with lack of lawn maintenance, etc is just too much risk. What will that do to the neighbor's property values? I'd hate to try to sell my home if my neighbor's house looked like that! I don't think I want that risk. Easier to just rent and then, if the neighborhood goes downhill, I could just move at the end of the lease.

The fact that the property in question has been allowed to fester in its deteriorating condition is entirely on the neighbors. The documents and the developer and Janet Tutt have made it repeatedly clear that the "police" are "us". If we don't complain, then it is unlikely that compliance will be achieved.

[skyguy79]

But you forget.. the end of the world is in December of this year so we have nothing to worry aboutNot me! I plan on back dating my clock by 30 year, then I should be good to go. If I should happen to live another 30 years, I can then just back date it again!
http://www.felix-riesterer.de/main/images/gaestebuch/wacky2.gif:1rotfl:

[CarGuys]

...........OH_ SNAP............
....................Thank You for the reminder....That's Right...21-DEC-2012.
............Man-oh-man.......am I gonna MAX out all the credit cards :loco:,
..................AND...Eat Burgers and Fries..at 5 GUYS....:mmmm:...DAILY.

I Love those burgers! Never had one till I visited here!

:mmmm::mmmm:

[skyguy79]

I Love those burgers! Never had one till I visited here!

:mmmm::mmmm:I had them back in Clifton Park, NY and they're so greasy, but as Mr. Food (http://www.mrfood.com/) would say... "Ooh, it's sooo good!" :mmmm::mmmm:

[CarGuys]

I had them back in Clifton Park, NY and they're so greasy, but as Mr. Food (http://www.mrfood.com/) would say... "Ooh, it's sooo good!" :mmmm::mmmm:

I'm running away from my Doctor here, till my new down here catch's me being bad!

Now where are the good wings and ribs?

[Happy Villager 1]

The fact that the property in question has been allowed to fester in its deteriorating condition is entirely on the neighbors. The documents and the developer and Janet Tutt have made it repeatedly clear that the "police" are "us". If we don't complain, then it is unlikely that compliance will be achieved.

I agree Indydealmaker......this has been reported approximately 4 weeks
ago. The original poster's question was "What will happen when build out ends?" That question will be answered either in the negative or postive when the mess in the neighborhood is cleaned up or left to fester. I'll will keep you posted if anybody cares.

Another issue is Village Community Watch. Why isn't one of their duties to police the deed restrictions? It used to be when we first moved here. I have heard or read where it costs over 1 million dollars to have Village Community Watch and that is a little expensive in my book to be just a deterent to crime when we also pay taxes for a police force. We didn't live in a gated community, and still don't, before we moved here and never worried about crime. Having to turn in neighbors is not The Villages Friendliest Place To Be.
I'm not trying to be negative but there is definitely room for improvement.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

I Love those burgers! Never had one till I visited here!

:mmmm::mmmm:

Hey Herv!!! Do not - and I repeat....DO NOT - go to their web site and check out the Nutritional Information on a large order of fries! :shocked:

Here's the link, just to make sure you don't trip across it accidentally: :D

Nutritional Information | Five Guys Burgers and Fries (http://www.fiveguys.com/menu/nutritional-information.aspx)

:faint:

Sandy and I DO love their burgers!

Bill :wave:

[Mikeod]

I agree Indydealmaker......this has been reported approximately 4 weeks
ago. The original poster's question was "What will happen when build out ends?" That question will be answered either in the negative or postive when the mess in the neighborhood is cleaned up or left to fester. I'll will keep you posted if anybody cares.

Another issue is Village Community Watch. Why isn't one of their duties to police the deed restrictions? It used to be when we first moved here. I have heard or read where it costs over 1 million dollars to have Village Community Watch and that is a little expensive in my book to be just a deterent to crime when we also pay taxes for a police force. We didn't live in a gated community, and still don't, before we moved here and never worried about crime. Having to turn in neighbors is not The Villages Friendliest Place To Be.
I'm not trying to be negative but there is definitely room for improvement.
If I remember correctly, there is a process that allows the homeowner some period of time to correct the situation. If the response is inadequate, there is another period of time before action is taken by the district to eliminate the discrepancy and the homeowner is billed/charged.

[Happy Villager 1]

Mikeod you are correct. Our District 5 just recently gained the authority to start the procedure where fines can be given if the situation isn't cleaned up in a certain length of time. I believe they are given 3 warnings 15 days apart but I will need to read up on that again to be certain. I was just told today by a neighbor the owner of this home told him his son is putting a putting green on part of the front lawn! Hopefully he will be in for a big surprise when he finds out, according to our deed restrictions, 51% of the lawn viewed by a road needs to be sod and also artifical turf (whether silk, plastic or other material) is not an approved substitute for sod. In the mean time
the neighborhood is not happy.

[Mikeod]

Mikeod you are correct. Our District 5 just recently gained the authority to start the procedure where fines can be given if the situation isn't cleaned up in a certain length of time. I believe they are given 3 warnings 15 days apart but I will need to read up on that again to be certain. I was just told today by a neighbor the owner of this home told him his son is putting a putting green on part of the front lawn! Hopefully he will be in for a big surprise when he finds out, according to our deed restrictions, 51% of the lawn viewed by a road needs to be sod and also artifical turf (whether silk, plastic or other material) is not an approved substitute for sod. In the mean time
the neighborhood is not happy.
Fortunately, we came here from a place that had deed restrictions, and an architectural review board, so we were accustomed to these and learned to live with them. But I'll bet there are many people who have come from places without these restrictions and either did not read the restrictions or did not believe they really would be enforced or apply to them.

Let us know how it works out. You may also want to let the HOA and POA know about this. The more involved, the merrier (?).

[Happy Villager 1]

Fortunately, we came here from a place that had deed restrictions, and an architectural review board, so we were accustomed to these and learned to live with them. But I'll bet there are many people who have come from places without these restrictions and either did not read the restrictions or did not believe they really would be enforced or apply to them.

Let us know how it works out. You may also want to let the HOA and POA know about this. The more involved, the merrier (?).

I know TOTV isn't the place to be venting but it can be so frustrating when we read the deed restrictions before we signed for our home purchase and agreed to abide by them and then have this situation we are faced with. Thanks Mikeod for listening and I will let you know how it is resolved. It is difficult to have to report a neighbor when you really do like them on a personal basis.

[Army Guy]

Fortunately, we came here from a place that had deed restrictions, and an architectural review board, so we were accustomed to these and learned to live with them. But I'll bet there are many people who have come from places without these restrictions and either did not read the restrictions or did not believe they really would be enforced or apply to them.

Let us know how it works out. You may also want to let the HOA and POA know about this. The more involved, the merrier (?).

You are very true, that many do not know what the restrictions are. Even though we all had to sign that we read them most did not.

Army Guy

[bestmickey]

The fact that the property in question has been allowed to fester in its deteriorating condition is entirely on the neighbors. The documents and the developer and Janet Tutt have made it repeatedly clear that the "police" are "us". If we don't complain, then it is unlikely that compliance will be achieved.

Yes, I understand. But the poster's first note said it has been reported. It's even more worrisome that it's been reported and it's still a mess!

Edit: Sorry Indydealmaker! I just read the entire thread and see that the original poster already pointed out that the situation has already been reported.

[Uptown Girl]

I believe that statement is the perfect example of the idiomatic expression................."Bury your head in the sand".We all need to educate ourselves about TV long term plans, and the part we can play , in making sure TV is just as captivating to all future residents.

I post frequently using idiomatic expression. On purpose. It 'paints a picture' concisely. It 'tickles my funny bone' and it's free.

I wouldn't say that post is a perfect example of 'burying your head in the sand'. We don't 'all NEED' to do anything. There is no 'part in the play' that we are 'dropping the ball' on. No reality that we are refusing to face.

Choosing to focus on a dire possible scenario and 'getting verklempt' over it without even a visible wisp of manifestation is, to me, a mistaken use of those wonderful 'creative juices' we all possess.... but you can use your vision that way if you want to..... I will not try to change your mind.

Nor will I discount those who don't share or resonate to your vision....

[2 Oldcrabs]

I am not convinced The Villages will be done building in 2015. There is a lot of vacant land around The Villages. Time will tell.:crap2:

[graciegirl]

I post frequently using idiomatic expression. On purpose. It 'paints a picture' concisely. It 'tickles my funny bone' and it's free.

I wouldn't say that post is a perfect example of 'burying your head in the sand'. We don't 'all NEED' to do anything. There is no 'part in the play' that we are 'dropping the ball' on. No reality that we are refusing to face.

Choosing to focus on a dire possible scenario and 'getting verklempt' over it without even a visible wisp of manifestation is, to me, a mistaken use of those wonderful 'creative juices' we all possess.... but you can use your vision that way if you want to..... I will not try to change your mind.

Nor will I discount those who don't share or resonate to your vision....

SWIMDAWG??? This post should get an award!! Look at this post and see if it isn't sassy, true, reasonable, humorous and "right as rain".

Uptown girl, You are the cat's pajamas.

[swimdawg]

I post frequently using idiomatic expression. On purpose. It 'paints a picture' concisely. It 'tickles my funny bone' and it's free.

I wouldn't say that post is a perfect example of 'burying your head in the sand'. We don't 'all NEED' to do anything. There is no 'part in the play' that we are 'dropping the ball' on. No reality that we are refusing to face.

Choosing to focus on a dire possible scenario and 'getting verklempt' over it without even a visible wisp of manifestation is, to me, a mistaken use of those wonderful 'creative juices' we all possess.... but you can use your vision that way if you want to..... I will not try to change your mind.

Nor will I discount those who don't share or resonate to your vision....

This Uptown Girl is definitely on a roll. Yes, Gracie, she does get the Swimdawg Post of the Day Award. She would have received it yesterday...but I already gave it away....so I had to give her 2nd place!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
March 3: Uptown Girl...responding to the Brownwood video and the Morse Family:
"Of course, could be that the negative Cocoa-Puffs around these parts may consider it phony baloney propaganda.

I tried to teach a pig to sing opera once, but all I succeeded in doing was exhausting myself and annoying the pig.
Know what I mean, jelly bean?"

Swimdawg: "Just too darn bad that I already gave the Swimdawg Post of the Day Award earlier....because YOU would have certainly have won! Well, you do get second place....oh yes!"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Keep up the good work, Uptown Girl. You may be in the running for the finals, "The Gracie Awards"!

[Bosoxfan]

I am not convinced The Villages will be done building in 2015. There is a lot of vacant land around The Villages. Time will tell.:crap2:
:agree:

[EdV]

This is not exactly true. The developer has turned over/sold all of the amenities north of 466 and a small portion of those south of 466 to the CDD. The plan is that he will eventually turn those over as well. The CDD, headed by Janet Tutt, runs all of the amenities, including those still owned by the developer....

Yes, he sold most of the recreational amenities north of 466 to the VCCDD, but since he still owns most of the commercial property that is part of that district, he remains in control of that district. As reported in the Sept 2011 audit, “four of the five members of the Board of Supervisors are employees of or affiliated with the Developer.” Consequently, in spite of the fact that he profited handsomely from the sale of those amenities, he still controls them and will continue to do so.

And Janet Tutt does not head the VCCDD. She is the District’s Manager, a staff member of the district who reports to the district’s Board of Supervisors who in turn report to the Developer.

But nothing I say here should be construed as necessarily negative. I’m just pointing out what I know.