Brownwood....to open in the fall of 2012

[swimdawg]

When talking about misinformation, I really like to get my info right from the horse's mouth. Well...maybe from the pony's mouth....(not the a--hole's mouth!) ;)

Okay.....Brownwood Square is scheduled to open THIS FALL! There will elevated seating.....and it's going to be WONDERFUL!

Here's the latest. These videos never cease to amaze me. Those who are so quick to diss the Morse Family.......need to look at each one of these videos to appreciate what goes into the making of a wonderful (but not perfect) community!

Enjoy!
The Building of Brownwood - Episode 3 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1ORX4Yzy20&feature=player_embedded#)!

[Happinow]

What will they think of next?? This square is sure to please a lot of people. I must admit, I'm not a western fan but the concept is cool. :crap2:

[Uptown Girl]

Hey Swimdawg, THANKS!
Of course, could be that the negative Cocoa-Puffs around these parts may consider it phony baloney propaganda.

I tried to teach a pig to sing opera once, but all I succeeded in doing was exhausting myself and annoying the pig.
Know what I mean, jelly bean?
:jester:

[swimdawg]

Hey Swimdawg, THANKS!
Of course, could be that the negative Cocoa-Puffs around these parts may consider it phony baloney propaganda.

I tried to teach a pig to sing opera once, but all I succeeded in doing was exhausting myself and annoying the pig.
Know what I mean, jelly bean?
:jester:

Just too darn bad that I already gave the Swimdawg Post of the Day Award earlier....because YOU would have certainly have won! Well, you do get second place....oh yes! :clap2:

[keithwand]

Its like coming home for me.

I spent my summers on Torch Lake in Northern MI within walking distance of Brownwood Acres. The locals called it The Honey House and still do.

For a while the Morse family had a restaurant/ club there but the population there is mainly in the summer so they shut the restaurant portion down. Maybe thats when he went to TV. In the SS logo store they sell Brownwood jellies and mustards etc. and they are good.

W. Torch Lake Drive and Brownwood Blvd are real places in MI and soon to TV.

[Yorio]

Morse and his family certainly have a vision for TV. As they move from north to south, many things are improved as they see areas of how they improve whether it be wider cart roads, more walk ways or extra touch for the homes like walk-in showers. Seating areas for Brownwood is another. I may be slaughtered for equating Morse with Steve Jobs but Jobs was no angel but he knew what people wanted. Morse has that touch and he can be called the Steve Jobs of Real Estate or certainly one for Retired Community. He took that away from Del Webb by a mile IMHO.

[Pathel]

Morse and his family certainly have a vision for TV. As they move from north to south, many things are improved as they see areas of how they improve whether it be wider cart roads, more walk ways or extra touch for the homes like walk-in showers. Seating areas for Brownwood is another. I may be slaughtered for equating Morse with Steve Jobs but Jobs was no angel but he knew what people wanted. Morse has that touch and he can be called the Steve Jobs of Real Estate or certainly one for Retired Community. He took that away from Del Webb by a mile IMHO.

Well, slaughter may not be the correct term. But - I think it's unfair to equate any of the Morse Family (or the founder) with Steve Jobs. I have read the Jobs book and I do not see a lot in common, other than putting out a quality product.

I would not be so quick to judge the Morse Family.

[wendyquat]

Wow! Thanks for sharing swimdog! Gives all us cowhands something to look forward to! Yee haw!:crap2:

[spk7951]

Well, slaughter may not be the correct term. But - I think it's unfair to equate any of the Morse Family (or the founder) with Steve Jobs. I have read the Jobs book and I do not see a lot in common, other than putting out a quality product.

I would not be so quick to judge the Morse Family.


And I tend to think it would be difficult to find anyone with better visions in their particular endeavors than the Morse family or Steve Jobs. On that I feel they are on similar ground.

[Posh 08]

And I tend to think it would be difficult to find anyone with better visions in their particular endeavors than the Morse family or Steve Jobs. On that I feel they are on similar ground.

Both parties are/were very intelligent plus have/had vision.

[buggyone]

Brownwood Town Center will be very close to Wildwood. As we all know, the town squares, restaurants, businesses, and bars are open to all the public. I am wondering if Brownwood Town Center is going to be a popular spot for the citizens of Wildwood to hang out at and enjoy the music, entertainment, and dancing each night. Hope it would not become too crowded so residents of The Villages would not have the same enjoyment as as Spanish Springs or Lake Sumter Landing - which are also open to everyone but a further distance from Wildwood.

[jblum315]

Morse and his family certainly have a vision for TV. As they move from north to south, many things are improved as they see areas of how they improve whether it be wider cart roads, more walk ways or extra touch for the homes like walk-in showers. Seating areas for Brownwood is another. I may be slaughtered for equating Morse with Steve Jobs but Jobs was no angel but he knew what people wanted. Morse has that touch and he can be called the Steve Jobs of Real Estate or certainly one for Retired Community. He took that away from Del Webb by a mile IMHO.

I'm not sure I agree. I think the older rec centers and country clubs, when they were new, were nicer than the ones being built currently.

[joanofarctv]

Thanks! Love to see the progress on Brownwood. Can't wait to actually be able to check it out in person.

[rubicon]

Aw shucks those Morse's are so gum darn nice

[JimJoe]

I watched the video.. It looks great.
JJ

[mrsyarbie]

The new town square is not based on a western theme. My hubby Joe is a Florida "cracker"
which means he was born here. The town square is going to look like the original Florida towns looked when they were covered with cattle and Florida cowboys on them. They used to crack their whips to help move the cattle hence came the nickname "Crackers". Florida actually has a very interesting history. I grew up in WI. so I had a lot to learn becoming a Florida transplant. But I am still a Green Bay Packer Backer fan !!
The town center is supposed to have lots of big oak trees with spanish moss hanging on them like we had in our yard in our our current part of the state Tampa Bay. and Azelas I hear which are beautiful flowering bushes in bloom this time of year as well.They are colored white an dall shades of pink. They love to grow under the big oaks. Hope all is going your way we are right behind you in April.

[babs1199]

My Grandfather had a home on Torch Lake, I spent summer's there. I cannot wait till it is finished, I am sure it will bring back memories....

[Whatever]

The new town square is not based on a western theme. My hubby Joe is a Florida "cracker"
which means he was born here. The town square is going to look like the original Florida towns looked when they were covered with cattle and Florida cowboys on them. They used to crack their whips to help move the cattle hence came the nickname "Crackers". Florida actually has a very interesting history. I grew up in WI. so I had a lot to learn becoming a Florida transplant. But I am still a Green Bay Packer Backer fan !!
The town center is supposed to have lots of big oak trees with spanish moss hanging on them like we had in our yard in our our current part of the state Tampa Bay. and Azelas I hear which are beautiful flowering bushes in bloom this time of year as well.They are colored white an dall shades of pink. They love to grow under the big oaks. Hope all is going your way we are right behind you in April.

You might want to get a copy of " A LAND REMEMBERED " which, though fiction, gives the early history of Florida. The book, I believe, is required reading for FL high schoolers. Enjoy!

[Schaumburger]

I will be in TV in June for a week. Hurrah! The good Lord willing and the creek don't rise, I would like to come back to TV for another visit mid-October. How close to opening will Brownwood be by mid-October? I could also do an end of October visit. I would really like to see Brownwood this fall.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Schaumburger, I've not see a specific timeframe noted for the opening of Brownwood......just "in the fall".

Bill :)

[Schaumburger]

Thanks, Bill. I will have to keep watching The Villages official web site. I'm sure opening status info. will be posted on TOTV in the coming months.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

The latest allusion I've seen or heard was in the most recent "The Building of Brownwood" episode (#3) on TV's web site. At around the 14 minute mark or so in the video, it's stated that they hope to have things punched out in the July/August timeframe "for the grand opening in the fall".

Bill :)

[skyguy79]

We drove by Brownwood today on the way back from the Wildwood Farmers Market and have to say I liked the view from 44A better than what we've been able to see from the 44 side. Judging by how quickly it's been developing, it wouldn't surprise me if they meet the timeline they've stated!

[bogeybabe]

Brownwood Town Center will be very close to Wildwood. As we all know, the town squares, restaurants, businesses, and bars are open to all the public. I am wondering if Brownwood Town Center is going to be a popular spot for the citizens of Wildwood to hang out at and enjoy the music, entertainment, and dancing each night. Hope it would not become too crowded so residents of The Villages would not have the same enjoyment as as Spanish Springs or Lake Sumter Landing - which are also open to everyone but a further distance from Wildwood.
if you go to either square on a weekend night, you will find it full of kids from all outlying areas - Wildwood, Leesburg, Bellview? who knows. No doubt they will flock to Brownwood also. Just because Brownwood is close to Wildwood does not mean there will be any more outsiders/kids than already spend time in the other squares. Let's just enjoy it when it is built!!!

[CarGuys]

For us living in Tamarind Grove I think it will be pretty cool were halfway to Brownwood and halfway to LSL.

[swimdawg]

Schaumburger, I've not see a specific timeframe noted for the opening of Brownwood......just "in the fall".

Bill :)

Office space, some restaurants and movie theatre are scheduled to open by October.

[bike42]

It's worth a drive down to the bottom of Buena Vista to see what's going on -- the movie theatre (big building) now has a mural on the walls.

[Bogie Shooter]

Office space, some restaurants and movie theatre are scheduled to open by October.

Just wondering where is this information published?

[swimdawg]

Just wondering where is this information published?

I'll never tell! ;)

It is credible, though.

[skyguy79]

It's worth a drive down to the bottom of Buena Vista to see what's going on -- the movie theatre (big building) now has a mural on the walls.Make sure to get a peek from the 44A side!

[Schaumburger]

Office space, some restaurants and movie theatre are scheduled to open by October.

That is good, as I'm planning my second visit this year to TV for October. Wonder when the announcement(s) will be made as to what restaurants will be at Brownwood?

[PPreu]

The mayor of Wildwood is a friend of mine and a golfing buddy. Sunday afternoon, March 18th, I played golf with him and he was grining from ear to ear, while gushing about Brownwood.

He has a vested interest in accuracy, and he told me, a "September opening is expected."

Take it for what its worth.

[momesu]

hmmm I may need to be looking for a job in the fall I wonder if the opening of Brownwood will mean more jobs available????? Not looking for anything with top pay, need just enough for those little extras in life.

Suzanne

[keithwand]

My Grandfather had a home on Torch Lake, I spent summer's there. I cannot wait till it is finished, I am sure it will bring back memories....

Me too from 1959 to 1972.

[buggyone]

I am still wondering what impact the citizens of Wildwood will have upon Brownwood. As we know, the squares, entertainment, restaurants, movies, and bars are open to the public. Since Brownwood and Wildwood are so very close to each other, I wonder if Wildwood citizens will be very numerous at Brownwood and some of the undesireable aspects (drug dealing) might transfer to Brownwood if their young people go to Brownwood for entertainment, movies, and drinking.

Just wondering what might happen.

[momesu]

I am still wondering what impact the citizens of Wildwood will have upon Brownwood. As we know, the squares, entertainment, restaurants, movies, and bars are open to the public. Since Brownwood and Wildwood are so very close to each other, I wonder if Wildwood citizens will be very numerous at Brownwood and some of the undesireable aspects (drug dealing) might transfer to Brownwood if their young people go to Brownwood for entertainment, movies, and drinking.

Just wondering what might happen.

I would think if TV wants to keep these elements out they are capable of doing a policing job which will let the so called undesirables know they are not welcome and will not be tolerated. After all the activities you are worried about re illegal. If people know it is not safe to take part in illegal activities at Brownwood they will go elsewhere where there is less risk. If a blind eye is turned to illegal activities it will take place. Just my opinion.

Suzanne

[Bogie Shooter]

I am still wondering what impact the citizens of Wildwood will have upon Brownwood. As we know, the squares, entertainment, restaurants, movies, and bars are open to the public. Since Brownwood and Wildwood are so very close to each other, I wonder if Wildwood citizens will be very numerous at Brownwood and some of the undesireable aspects (drug dealing) might transfer to Brownwood if their young people go to Brownwood for entertainment, movies, and drinking.

Just wondering what might happen.

What makes you think the the "undesireable aspects" are not in Spanish Springs & Lake Sumter Landing squares. A question really is, just what are you really trying to say??

[CarGuys]

When we first visited and traveled into Spanish Springs past the 9 oclock bed time for TV.

We walked around the town around 10pm and I oberved the gang bandanas and the speakers were mind numbing thumping out the Rap.

My wife said were outta here! Thats what he is trying to say. That his makes some uncomfortable!

And yes its a public square and they have the right to hang there. And I have the right to not hang there.

Cause I'm not Bad A-- enought to defend myself agaist teenagers. Unless Figmo is with me!:police:

[keithwand]

You should visit downtown Orlando some weekend night.
All the young "whipper snappers" partying and having a good time. Man I'm jealous.

[buggyone]

You should visit downtown Orlando some weekend night.
All the young "whipper snappers" partying and having a good time. Man I'm jealous.

Nothing wrong with partying and having a good time at all.

Since Brownwood is going to be much closer to Wildwood (which has a higher crime rate than Lady Lake or Fruitland Park), I was only wondering if some of their undesirable activities will spill over into Brownwood on a regular basis and basically turn into a Wildwood hangout.

[Bogie Shooter]

Nothing wrong with partying and having a good time at all.

Since Brownwood is going to be much closer to Wildwood (which has a higher crime rate than Lady Lake or Fruitland Park), I was only wondering if some of their undesirable activities will spill over into Brownwood on a regular basis and basically turn into a Wildwood hangout.

What is the source of this information?
BTW Wildwood will be hiring two additional officers to be assigned to Brownwood. This was part of the reporting of Wildwood council meeting.

[buggyone]

Wildwood Crime Statistics : Florida ( FL ) - CityRating.com (http://www.cityrating.com/crime-statistics/florida/wildwood.html)

Fruitland Park Crime Statistics : Florida ( FL ) - CityRating.com (http://www.cityrating.com/crime-statistics/florida/fruitland-park.html)

This compares Fruitland Park and Wildwood.

[janmcn]

I am still wondering what impact the citizens of Wildwood will have upon Brownwood. As we know, the squares, entertainment, restaurants, movies, and bars are open to the public. Since Brownwood and Wildwood are so very close to each other, I wonder if Wildwood citizens will be very numerous at Brownwood and some of the undesireable aspects (drug dealing) might transfer to Brownwood if their young people go to Brownwood for entertainment, movies, and drinking.

Just wondering what might happen.

I see a bigger problem when all the people that live in the trailer parks along 44 show up at the crack of dawn to save tables and chairs for special events. Perhaps The Villages could enact a "stand your table" law much like Florida's "stand your ground" law.

[buggyone]

It is very possible that the trailer park residents could come and save chairs for an entire group of trailer park residents for special events at Brownwood. They do not have to show an ID card as all are welcome at The Village events. Combined with the youths from Wildwood hanging around and the trailer park residents, will Brownwood be a place for The Villages or an all community gathering place that we will be funding with our amenity fees?

[villages07]

It is very possible that the trailer park residents could come and save chairs for an entire group of trailer park residents for special events at Brownwood. They do not have to show an ID card as all are welcome at The Village events. Combined with the youths from Wildwood hanging around and the trailer park residents, will Brownwood be a place for The Villages or an all community gathering place that we will be funding with our amenity fees?

First off, our amenity fees do not support the operation of the squares. They are funded by the commercial property owners and Villages Entertainment Dept.

Also, the main seating in Brownwood will be permanent bleacher/stadium type seating. I daresay it will be more difficult, but certainly not impossible, to rope off and save seats. It's still TBD if there will also be daily removable plastic chairs. Still, it would be great if some proactive signage or design would help deter seat savers.

I won't even get into the discussion about trailer parks and Wildwood. I have confidence that local security and police presence will ensure that crime and behavior are kept in check.

[graciegirl]

First off, our amenity fees do not support the operation of the squares. They are funded by the commercial property owners and Villages Entertainment Dept.

Also, the main seating in Brownwood will be permanent bleacher/stadium type seating. I daresay it will be more difficult, but certainly not impossible, to rope off and save seats. It's still TBD if there will also be daily removable plastic chairs. Still, it would be great if some proactive signage or design would help deter seat savers.

I won't even get into the discussion about trailer parks and Wildwood. I have confidence that local security and police presence will ensure that crime and behavior are kept in check.

We have chosen to live in The Villages. People close by Brownwood have lived in that Community of modular homes well before The Villages were flourishing. They are people who are looking to enjoy the Florida sunshine too, very much like what motivated all of us to move here. I bet they are sitting out on their front patios with their friends talking about all of us "snobs" who will be soon moving up close to their part of Paradise.

Modular homes are very much the same size as many of our homes and are a mainstay in Florida as a choice for snowbirds, snowflakes and year round residents. Some are small and others are quite roomy and people are very proud of their castles, no matter which moat they cross.

I have relatives and friends who live in "trailers" in Florida.

But maybe after reading the comments made by folks about trailer parks I got all defensive over nothin'. Maybe I read wrong and no one meant to look down on those folks, just worrying they were gonna save tables. Some times I am too late with too little and sometimes I am too early with too much.

[Bogie Shooter]

It is very possible that the trailer park residents could come and save chairs for an entire group of trailer park residents for special events at Brownwood. They do not have to show an ID card as all are welcome at The Village events. Combined with the youths from Wildwood hanging around and the trailer park residents, will Brownwood be a place for The Villages or an all community gathering place that we will be funding with our amenity fees?

First it was "undesireable aspects" now "trailer park residents"............wonder what will be next?

[skip0358]

It's not even open yet and we're beating the crap out of it. How many people from outside visit TV on a daily basis. When the square opens if you don't want to mix with the likes of the so called outsiders of that area DON'T go to Brownwood. Just remember when the malll opens on the otherside of Brownwood maybe you shouldn't got there or the Butterbaenery or Spars or Continental CC or anything else outside the bubble. Everybody lives someplace and they're all entitled to visit TV. Maybe when you came to visit the first time those how lived here said oh great another outsider coming . It's not private property and we live here and own a very small piece of the big picture.

[buggyone]

First it was "undesireable aspects" now "trailer park residents"............wonder what will be next?


I posted first about the undesireable aspects of Wildwood such as their drug dealing that goes on in Wildwood. It was another poster who added in "I see a bigger problem when all the people that live in the trailer parks along 44 show up at the crack of dawn to save tables and chairs for special events."

I said nothing about outsiders not being welcome at Brownwood. I was only wondering about the effects of large numbers of outside residents having upon the residents of The Villages feeling same and happy.

[Bogie Shooter]

It's not even open yet and we're beating the crap out of it. How many people from outside visit TV on a daily basis. When the square opens if you don't want to mix with the likes of the so called outsiders of that area DON'T go to Brownwood. Just remember when the malll opens on the otherside of Brownwood maybe you shouldn't got there or the Butterbaenery or Spars or Continental CC or anything else outside the bubble. Everybody lives someplace and they're all entitled to visit TV. Maybe when you came to visit the first time those how lived here said oh great another outsider coming . It's not private property and we live here and own a very small piece of the big picture.

I agree!

[looneycat]

I see a bigger problem when all the people that live in the trailer parks along 44 show up at the crack of dawn to save tables and chairs for special events. Perhaps The Villages could enact a "stand your table" law much like Florida's "stand your ground" law.

next you'll be complaining about Villagers from the 'historical' side!!!
:shocked:

[keithwand]

What "Mall" will be near Brownwood?

[skip0358]

What "Mall" will be near Brownwood?

On the West Side of Rt. 139 & the N. side of Rt. 44 where the big piece of land is cleared going west towards Rt 301. There's a large mall scheduled to be built there. No stores mentioned yet.

[janmcn]

next you'll be complaining about Villagers from the 'historical' side!!!
:shocked:

I was not complaining about anyone, just pointing out the problem with too many people saving tables and chairs at special events in the squares.

[angiefox10]

Is this mall going to be "golf cart accessible"?

[gvsulakerfan]

On the West Side of Rt. 139 & the N. side of Rt. 44 where the big piece of land is cleared going west towards Rt 301. There's a large mall scheduled to be built there. No stores mentioned yet.

there is no mall scheduled here. there will be 'big box' but not a traditional 'indoor mall'

[skip0358]

there is no mall scheduled here. there will be 'big box' but not a traditional 'indoor mall'

I miss quoted. Coming from NY not all Malls were Enclosed. So I misstated this as a mall. It was originly going to be called Antril Dell. There is also another large parcel on the south side off rt 44 opposite the general area of Brownwood for sale zoned mixed use.

[Bogie Shooter]

Is this mall going to be "golf cart accessible"?

TV is building it so..........................yes!

[looneycat]

I was not complaining about anyone, just pointing out the problem with too many people saving tables and chairs at special events in the squares.

on that I agree, there should be a box in each square where you can dump the stuff people put on chairs to save them, putting something on a chair and walking away for an hour is just plain rude.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Here are a couple of bits of info on Antrim Dells:

Antrim Dells (http://nullrefer.com/?http://thevillagescommercialproperty.com/prop-Antrim%20Dells.asp)

Bill :)