What the HECK!?!

[Guest]

Alex Jones: “This represents absolute 100 per cent proof that the military industrial complex which runs the United States is under the control of foreign central banks who are imposing a military dictatorship.”

"Panetta’s testimony that the US looks to obtain “international permission” before it acts, allied with Obama citing the UN as the supreme authority while trashing the power of Congress, prove that the United States has ceded control over its own affairs to unelected international bureaucrats, just as the countries of the European Union have done likewise."

Obama Admin Cites 'Int'l Permission,' Not Congress, As 'Legal Basis' For Action In Syria - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5zNwOeyuG84)

[Guest]

I think you have it backwards.

Going on those statements - it would be the MIC looking for reasons to justify itself - wanting to get involved in every single conflict they can to make themselves indispensable.

Asking permission is RESPECTING THE SOVEREIGNTY OF ANOTHER NATION. Or, in this case, a consensus of other SOVEREIGN nations. ...like the Kuwait operation. (Heck, we made a PROFIT on THAT one)

We have no business putting boots on the ground in Syria.

[Guest]

I'm not sure what I have backwards? I do know that the Executive branch of the United States of America must receive permission from the Legislative branch to declare war. I never learned about asking permission from another country or group of countries.
I'm not sure we have any business putting boots on the ground in Syria either. But that decision needs to be made internally by the proper chain of command as mentioned above.

[Guest]

I'm not sure what I have backwards? I do know that the Executive branch of the United States of America must receive permission from the Legislative branch to declare war. I never learned about asking permission from another country or group of countries.
I'm not sure we have any business putting boots on the ground in Syria either. But that decision needs to be made internally by the proper chain of command as mentioned above.Exactly correct. Except that, even though I think the Constitution requires them to do so, no POTUS has obtained Congressional approval to go to war since WWII.

I guess I don't know how that happens, unless like Bill Clinton's definition of "is", presidents either don't call it "war", call it something else, don't actually declare war against another nation, or can't really identify a nation to attack (like the Viet Cong, al Quaeda or the Taliban). For whatever reason, all the president's since FDR have figured out a way around the Constitutional requirement...with no real objection from the Congress or the courts.

I suppose the argument could be made that Congress actually did authorize all the military actions undertaken by presidents since WWI as the result of them voting to fund them. But that seems like a weak way to justify the requirements of the Constitutuon, that are a whole lot clearer than that.

[Guest]

every time this [or any] administration asks permission to take action diminishes the power of the people and our elected officials! but what else can we expect from a potus who bows to foreign leaders? sheesh!

asking permission and seeking international coalition are 2 separate actions...and panetta used both phrases in separate examples in the sound bite.