Where’s Rebecca Kleefisch’s Phone Call from Obama?

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Wisconsin Lt. Govenor Kleefisch to date has received no phone call from President Obama, and no support from NOW or MSNBC or from Media Matters or any mainstream media outlet which haven't even acknowledged the vile attacks on her. This is the real War On Women.

While Democratics continue their wailing about a “war on women,” Kleefisch has battled vile misogyny from liberal detractors. When lefty Wisconsin radio host John “Sly” Sylvester accused Kleefisch of performing “fellatio on all the talk-show hosts in Milwaukee” and sneered that she had “pulled a train” (a crude phrase for gang sex), feminists remained silent.

The difference between Sandra Fluke and Rebecca Kleefisch? The hatred of women is justifiable in the eyes of progressives so long as the woman isn't advocating for individual liberty over state control; so long as the woman is a conservative.

What other conclusion can you make?

http://exchangegoldforcash.com/money/u-s-government/president/2012-election/breitbart/wheres-rebecca-kleefischs-phone-call/

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The other conclusion I can make is that people in elected office are public officials and they GET this kind of thing. Just ask our President.

When you're a private citizen who's only 'fame' is testifying at a hearing? Different story.

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The other conclusion I can make is that people in elected office are public officials and they GET this kind of thing. Just ask our President.

When you're a private citizen who's only 'fame' is testifying at a hearing? Different story.

Agree with djplong.

Ms. Kleefisch is part of the target of a recall election in Wisconsin. Things are going to get really hot for her.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Kleefisch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_gubernatorial_election,_2012

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WOW.....seeing at least two people find justification for this kind of action is quite scary !!! Again, depends on what that voter registration card says I suppose. And we wonder what is happening with our country.

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WOW.....seeing at least two people find justification for this kind of action is quite scary !!! Again, depends on what that voter registration card says I suppose. And we wonder what is happening with our country.

Neither of us said it was justified just expected.

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Neither of us said it was justified just expected.

Beat me to the punch. I was just about to respond with an almost identical comment. I guess that now makes three of us!

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WOW!!; thanks all you liberals for proving the point of the article, and what conservatives have been saying for many years.

Notice: This was just a local demonstration. If you want to see the real liberal bias, refer to any major media outlet.

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WOW.....seeing at least two people find justification for this kind of action is quite scary !!! Again, depends on what that voter registration card says I suppose. And we wonder what is happening with our country.

Make that three. Big difference btwn citizen and politician.

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WOW!!; thanks all you liberals for proving the point of the article, and what conservatives have been saying for many years.

Notice: This was just a local demonstration. If you want to see the real liberal bias, refer to any major media outlet.

And what exactly have they been saying??

Just look at any conservative talk show's comments on Barack Obama. They get just as nasty in their comments. Same with those made about Hillary Clinton.

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And what exactly have they been saying??

Just look at any conservative talk show's comments on Barack Obama. They get just as nasty in their comments. Same with those made about Hillary Clinton.

Nobody disputes that there is nastiness on both sides, although these comments about Lt. Gov. Kleefisch are way over the top compared to anything I remember being said about any Democrat woman by any conservative speaker.

The point is that the liberals are only morally outraged ,and driven to despair and demand the head of the speaker on a pike when the comment is made about a liberal woman.

That's the point of the piece. C'mon liberals, get with it........this isn't that hard.

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Neither of us said it was justified just expected.

I said you FOUND JUSTIFICATION...did not say you justified it. There is a big difference. The posts were simply blase saying well, she is an elected official thus it is to be expected and that, TO ME is very sad.

PS....You all used President Obama as some sort of example. As I understood the thread it had to do with WOMEN !!!!!

Also, does not matter if it is Obama, Bush, or anyone....this kind of rhetoric needs to be condemned and the fact that you do not speaks volumes

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Nobody disputes that there is nastiness on both sides, although these comments about Lt. Gov. Kleefisch are way over the top compared to anything I remember being said about any Democrat woman by any conservative speaker.

The point is that the liberals are only morally outraged ,and driven to despair and demand the head of the speaker on a pike when the comment is made about a liberal woman.

That's the point of the piece. C'mon liberals, get with it........this isn't that hard.

You seem to be missing the point that this is a recall election in WI. Things are going to get really ugly. All-Out Walker War Looms as Wisconsin Recall Uncertainty Ends - Businessweek (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-03-30/all-out-walker-war-looms-as-wisconsin-recall-uncertainty-ends) http://www.care2.com/causes/wisconsin-recall-news-and-more-corruption-allegations.html

The comments refered by the original linked article about the LT. Gov do seem stupid, mean, and just plain wrong. They also seem irrelevant but they are free speech. And, it does not seem to me that anyone on TOTV has given any justification for them nor justified them.

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You seem to be missing the point that this is a recall election in WI. Things are going to get really ugly. All-Out Walker War Looms as Wisconsin Recall Uncertainty Ends - Businessweek (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-03-30/all-out-walker-war-looms-as-wisconsin-recall-uncertainty-ends) Wisconsin Recall News And More Corruption Allegations | Care2 Causes (http://www.care2.com/causes/wisconsin-recall-news-and-more-corruption-allegations.html)

The comments refered by the original linked article about the LT. Gov do seem stupid, mean, and just plain wrong. They also seem irrelevant but they are free speech. And, it does not seem to me that anyone on TOTV has given any justification for them nor justified them.

This is MY opinion.....free speech is fine...that does not mean that I need to justify, condone or whatever word you want to use for the actions.

These words and actions, IN MY OPINION, are wrong under any and all circumstances. No matter the party, no matter what...I could never say these things about my worst or mortal enemy.....that is just how I feel. You can feel differently if you wish but IT IS WRONG.

You can tell me why, but there is, IN MY OPINION, NO why's for this kind of action. The fact that you and others can even find a "why" is scary to me. That is my opinion.

And I did get your point...there is a recall and thus we can say whatver we want because we dont agree with their pollitics....I TOTALLY AND 100% DISAGREE WITH YOU.

I am certainly not a friend of this administration but you will NEVER EVER hear me even get close to that kind of language. The point of the thread was that there is a bit of hypocrisy on this treatment of women but you and others found it necessary NOT to condemn it but find a reason why. Everyone knows WHY you did that and that is what RICHIE's point is

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You seem to be missing the point that this is a recall election in WI. Things are going to get really ugly. All-Out Walker War Looms as Wisconsin Recall Uncertainty Ends - Businessweek (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-03-30/all-out-walker-war-looms-as-wisconsin-recall-uncertainty-ends) Wisconsin Recall News And More Corruption Allegations | Care2 Causes (http://www.care2.com/causes/wisconsin-recall-news-and-more-corruption-allegations.html)

The comments refered by the original linked article about the LT. Gov do seem stupid, mean, and just plain wrong. They also seem irrelevant but they are free speech. And, it does not seem to me that anyone on TOTV has given any justification for them nor justified them.

If you expressed any great outrage over the comments made about the political activist, Sandra Fluke, then your comment above is a tad hypocritical.

This is worse than anything said about Ms. Fluke., and there's no media firestorm, and that's the point.

This is the point. I won't be diverted.

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If you expressed any great outrage over the comments made about the political activist, Sandra Fluke, then your comment above is a tad hypocritical.

This is worse than anything said about Ms. Fluke., and there's no media firestorm, and that's the point.

This is the point. I won't be diverted.

Why does what some stupid disk jockey in WI say about some politician deserve a media fire storm?? Ever hear the term shock jock?

Why do you not write some complaints to the Madison WI station that has this Sly in the Morning show if you are so sickened by them?? This looks like the station-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTDY http://www.wtdy.com/

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Why does what some stupid disk jockey in WI say about some politician deserve a media fire storm?? Ever hear the term shock jock?

Why do you not write some complaints to the Madison WI station that has this Sly in the Morning show if you are so sickened by them?? This looks like the station-- WTDY - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTDY)

Not mine to respond to but the only reason I posted here was that YOU and another poster are not upset one bit by this action....it actually is stomach turning to me no matter what party. Why you folks moralize based on party affliation never seems to amaze me.

The post is not about the radio station but you folks who are outraged in one case and very accepting in another. It is repulsive no matter what party is involved.

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Not mine to respond to but the only reason I posted here was that YOU and another poster are not upset one bit by this action....it actually is stomach turning to me no matter what party. Why you folks moralize based on party affliation never seems to amaze me.

The post is not about the radio station but you folks who are outraged in one case and very accepting in another. It is repulsive no matter what party is involved.

Sandra Fluke is not a politician she is a third year law student at Georgetown Law School. That's the crux of the matter.

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Not mine to respond to but the only reason I posted here was that YOU and another poster are not upset one bit by this action....it actually is stomach turning to me no matter what party. Why you folks moralize based on party affliation never seems to amaze me.

The post is not about the radio station but you folks who are outraged in one case and very accepting in another. It is repulsive no matter what party is involved.

Sandra Fluke is not a politician she is a third year law student at Georgetown Law School. That's the crux of the matter.

Bucco is exactly right here.

Sandra Fluke is a 30 year old political activist with the admitted agenda of changing Harvard to suit her vision.

Your "crux" is disingenuous.

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Sandra Fluke is not a politician she is a third year law student at Georgetown Law School. That's the crux of the matter.

THAT CRUX is very very wrong and untrue

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THAT CRUX is very very wrong and untrue

Rush Limbaugh vs. Sandra Fluke: A timeline - The Week (http://theweek.com/article/index/225214/rush-limbaugh-vs-sandra-fluke-a-timeline)

Sandra Fluke is a private citizen not a politician in office nor running for office nor one accused for misdeeds needing a recall.

She is a third year law student at Georgetown not Harvard.

Many law students have been activists before going to law school. Does not mean anything.

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I can certainly agree with Richie that the nastiness DOES happen on both sides. I've seen it time and time again.

The comments on the Lt. Governor were certainly not *justified*, IMO. It's like how, although I'm a fan of Bill Maher, his comments on Sarah Palin were out of line. It demonstrated to me an uncharacteristic laziness in coming up with words to describe his feelings towards her.

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These words and actions, IN MY OPINION, are wrong under any and all circumstances. No matter the party, no matter what...I could never say these things about my worst or mortal enemy.....that is just how I feel. You can feel differently if you wish but IT IS WRONG.

You can tell me why, but there is, IN MY OPINION, NO why's for this kind of action. The fact that you and others can even find a "why" is scary to me. That is my opinion.

I 100% agree with you Bucco.

I don't care who she is...citizen or politician...rebublican or democrat or tea party...

I don't care if she is in the public limelight and should "get it".

This woman did not deserve to be treated like this...it absolutely disgusts me.

NO ONE...absolutely NO ONE deserves to be talked about in this way. She is the mother of two children, for God's sake. What about her family?


Why does what some stupid disk jockey in WI say about some politician deserve a media fire storm?? Ever hear the term shock jock? - Taltarzac

Give. Me. A. Break. Does it make it ok since he's a liberal?

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I 100% agree with you Bucco.

I don't care who she is...citizen or politician...rebublican or democrat or tea party...

I don't care if she is in the public limelight and should "get it".

This woman did not deserve to be treated like this...it absolutely disgusts me.

NO ONE...absolutely NO ONE deserves to be talked about in this way. She is the mother of two children, for God's sake. What about her family?




Give. Me. A. Break. Does it make it ok since he's a liberal?

I never said it was OK. It just does not deserve the same outcry as that against Rush Limbaugh's comments about Sandra Fluke. That IS the topic of the article that started this thread. http://exchangegoldforcash.com/money/u-s-government/president/2012-election/breitbart/wheres-rebecca-kleefischs-phone-call/

This seems like a bramble bush for free speech. No matter what I say someone will take offense with it. So I am off of this topic.

If you feel so strongly about it write the Madison WI radio station with the radio personality that made these comments about the WI Lt. Gov. His station link is http://www.wtdy.com/. The guy I assume is Sly in the Morning. http://www.wtdy.com/content/SLY-58.html

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I never said it was OK. It just does not deserve the same outcry as that against Rush Limbaugh's comments about Sandra Fluke. That IS the topic of the article that started this thread. Where’s Rebecca Kleefisch’s Phone Call? - The Place for Resources on Gold. - Exchange Gold for Cash (http://exchangegoldforcash.com/money/u-s-government/president/2012-election/breitbart/wheres-rebecca-kleefischs-phone-call/)

This seems like a bramble bush for free speech. No matter what I say someone will take offense with it. So I am off of this topic.

If you feel so strongly about it write the Madison WI radio station with the radio personality that made these comments about the WI Lt. Gov. His station link is WTDY Talk Radio 1670, News > Talk > Business, Madison Wisconsin (http://www.wtdy.com/). The guy I assume is Sly in the Morning. SLY | WTDY Talk Radio 1670 (http://www.wtdy.com/content/SLY-58.html)

So now you suggest that there are degrees of ugly talk ?

How do you make this distinction of what slutty talk is ok....you say it does not deserve the same outcry....WHY ? Because Fluke is a better person ? Because Fluke is a Democrat ? I suspect you that you feel it is fine to get into the gutter name calling FIRST because she is an elected official and SECOND because someone has claimed she did something wrong.

WOW......I did not know that you could say this stuff about folks in certain situations.....SO

Using the logic suppled by you....Rep Maxine Waters, who is currently under probe by the ethics comm of the house is open to this vile language because she is an elected official and is under investigation.

Now that is what you said....please tell me where I went wrong

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Using the logic suppled by you....Rep Maxine Waters, who is currently under probe by the ethics comm of the house is open to this vile language because she is an elected official and is under investigation.

Now that is what you said....please tell me where I went wrong


I guess they would say that it's to be expected because she is a politician and that she should "get it" and that it should be "expected" because she is in the limelight.

Imagine the outrage had it been Waters that was being slandered in this way.

Disgusting....absolutely disgusting.

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I guess they would say that it's to be expected because she is a politician and that she should "get it" and that it should be "expected" because she is in the limelight.

Imagine the outrage had it been Waters that was being slandered in this way.

Disgusting....absolutely disgusting.

This is why liberals are dangerous. They have a strange way of justifying the ugly actions they take. There's an excuse for anything a liberal does that does not apply to conservatives.

The worst of it is, that they are seemingly oblivious to their hypocrisy.

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Both liberals and conservatives use ugly nasty words with their rants. How about trying the middle for a while where understanding lives.

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Both liberals and conservatives use ugly nasty words with their rants. How about trying the middle for a while where understanding lives.

If you finally understand what is being discussed on this thread, you will realize that your statement above is irrelevant.

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This is why liberals are dangerous. They have a strange way of justifying the ugly actions they take. There's an excuse for anything a liberal does that does not apply to conservatives.

The worst of it is, that they are seemingly oblivious to their hypocrisy.

Would appear to me, without knowing you aside from your posts on this forum, that you have no mirrors in your house. How can you not see that you refuse to accept anything from anyone who does not agree with your ultra conservative position on everything. Anyone who disagrees with you is obviously a jerk who knows not of what he/she says. Glad to be among those who you are so insanely critical of. Wish I could always be right as you are.

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Would appear to me, without knowing you aside from your posts on this forum, that you have no mirrors in your house. How can you not see that you refuse to accept anything from anyone who does not agree with your ultra conservative position on everything. Anyone who disagrees with you is obviously a jerk who knows not of what he/she says. Glad to be among those who you are so insanely critical of. Wish I could always be right as you are.

I'm addressing those like you, on and off this forum; liberals in general. This thread is about reaction to "words", not the words themselves.

The reactions to the "words" are different for liberals, like you, depending on whose mouth those words are emanating from.

You are off track here, as is the other poster who I'm trying to correct the course of.

You still have a problem with making things personal. I'm flattered that you think my words are so important that you have to deviate from the thread to personally address my words and attack me personally for them

You are not the first poster on this forum to become obsessed with all that I say, but It's still a bit creepy.

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I can sum up, in one liberal favored word,the comments of my liberal friends to the original question (post) by Richielion "disingenious". :sad:

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Would appear to me, without knowing you aside from your posts on this forum, that you have no mirrors in your house. How can you not see that you refuse to accept anything from anyone who does not agree with your ultra conservative position on everything. Anyone who disagrees with you is obviously a jerk who knows not of what he/she says. Glad to be among those who you are so insanely critical of. Wish I could always be right as you are.

I can tell you that there are some posters and I do not want to be so arrogant as to list their names here, but posters who have disagreed with RICHIE and responded and had a good crisp dialogue back and forth without the items you listed.

WHY ? Because those posters rebutted RICHIE with facts...not the politics of personal ridicule. If you discuss facts with RICHIE, he may not agree with you but the dialogue will be civil and you will not have the feeling that he is being condenscending. THAT is what the forum is about...the exchange of ideas and thoughts, not little "shots" at people. I cant even tell you the amount of times that an issue of importance is presented on this forum and the response you get is a link to a poll, or better yet...."yeah, but look at Palin"

Try to engage with RICHIE and anybody on here with WHY you disagree and the why should not be based on the politics of ridicule of some person.

Sorry...none of my business but the personal attack that RICHIE will probably not report needs to be rebutted

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A high school student in Gross Pointe had her March-Women's Month posters taken down. They were posters that called for Respect for Women-liberal, conservative, and Islamic.

Liberal War On Women: MI High School Kills "Respect Women" Campaign (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/30/Gross-Pointe-Black-Power-Respect-Women-YAF)

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It's even getting worse. This same guy is attacking Lt. Gov. Kleefisch's family in the same way the left attacked then Gov. Palin's family.

Her crime?....being supportive of Gov. Walker.

Awful things are being said about her children, and still the MSM, (I like the NFM better) is not reporting this story, nor is any NFM outlet upset by the misogynist comments directed at this woman or the hurtful things being said about her husband and children.

This is why, for me, liberals can stick their phony outrage over Rush's comments, and they know where.

Media Silent as Left Attacks Kids of WI Lt. Gov. (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/03/30/Kleefisch-audio-sexist-attacks)

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Richie, to let you know the difference between dirty talk and sexual harrassment, dirty talk costs you $2.99 a minute and is supported by our liberal government. Now you know the whole story.

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The fact that some folks justify, heck support and encourage the use of such language against a person, especially a woman demonstrate how much more barbaric we have come since the inception of the so called "femnist movement". I am absolutely appauld at the way and manner some people talk to one another. I was reared to treat every women with respect. In fact to treat all people with respect. So to say its permissive to accuse a person of such disgusting acts and sanction it because the person is a "public figure", defies common decency .